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Oreck!! The BEST! & Hurricane Katrina
They are a company in New Orleans, I believe, and in chatting with their reps, they said how much their company was flattened by Katrina. I ordered mine right after the hurricane - had to wait a bit, but SO worth it. I have since learned that most hotels use Orecks for cleaning - they are AMAZING. Only wish I had one years ago...And yes, the little one is awesome, too!! I look forward to vacuuming - sick, huh?!
Just turn it off and wait for the electricity to dissipate and then clean it and turn it back on. nm
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disaster

Why on earth would you think we are exempt from natural disasters?  We are part of this planet just like everyone else.  We have had several natural disasters in the 20th century alone.  One was a huge flood in the same area where this hurricane hit.  In 1927, thousands of people were killed by a flood and they actually put black Americans in concentration camps and made them do the physical labor of cleaning up the mess.  


We've had earthquakes - not just the San Francisco one, but on in the 1880s or 1890s that killed tens of thousands people in the Midwest, mostly Missouri. 


This mess is the result of FEMA and Homeland Security not doing their jobs, and the result of having so many of our National Guard serving in Iraq.


This is a tragedy for the people who are the immediate victims of the Hurricane, but also for our nation.  We look like a bunch of nitwits who cannot even take care of our own people, but think we are fit to be the leader of the free world. 


Possible disaster. I can't believe what I'm reading.
Lots and lots of sites on the internet with good coverage.  I've been following it all evening.  They are saying it if doesn't weaken significantly it could be one of the greatest natural disasters in this country in this century.  60-80 percent of the homes could be washed away, 1000s killed, 30 foot high water in the city if the levees give way and there is a 70 percent chance that could happen.  This is from the Associated Press and a meteorological website - I am not making it up. 
natural disaster
well, if Mt. Rainier even erupts or sends a lahar through the Puyallup Valley, thousands of people will be buried alive in 30 feet of 300 mile per mud and rocks the size of dump trucks. But unlike New Orleans, we have drills, and evacuate routes already set up. Incompetent planning is all it is.
wishing disaster on anyone is
 no matter how strongly you feel, you should never, ever wish disaster on anyone. Don't you know that could come back to bite you in the butt...not a nice place to be bitten...except by you hubby maybe!  For real though, that was cruel.  Too many innocents suffer when a disaster like a hurricane or tsunami sweep through, not just the ones you wish it on.  Remember, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it!
my house looks like a disaster area

maybe 3 or 4 days out of the week... busy schedule.. . no time


Turn down such low low offers, turn industry around. sm
The way to figure is how many lines an hour do you do. There are 13 lines characters in a line (65 line length)
So say you TRY to average 4 pages an hour say 34 lines a page equal 139 lines, times your line rate.
139 X 4 cents a line = $5.56 an hour

and what if you don't do 4 pages even less.

MTing hourly hourly output is not very predictablel, so ya never know and predict what you can put out each hour.
THE WAY TO TURN THE INDUSTRY AROUND IS TO SPEAK UP, SAY 'NO' THAT IS TOO LOW AND GIVE SHORT EXAMPLE.

If the MTs continue to accept, that is what the going rate will continue to be. Yes, Yes, it will. Just keep looking. Email for general lowest to highest line rate prior to testing and resume, just say it saves time on both sides and it DOES. Why waste time. Soon, the message will get out there.
Money is worthless in that kind of disaster.
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Nat'l Humane Society Disaster Relief

Just watched the rescue of doggies, kitties and birdies with 1700 animals rescued. My wallet just got a couple dollars lighter. Poor little things.


Turn off puter, wait a min, turn on with delete key pressed down, then hit delete key NUMEROUS times
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It's been all over the news about Bush being to blame for this natural disaster. Anyone sitting i
would have been blamed, too.  It really doesn't matter what political affiliation they would be.  People HAVE to put the blame somewhere and why not right at the very top?  What this really comes down to is that PEOPLE, not VOTERS must come together and work in harmony for the common good of our fellow man.  If we leave all the political baloney out of the equation, something good can be done. 
Hurricane Wilma

We were in Cancun when Wilma hit.  Cancun will be quite some time before it is what it was pre Wilma.  Currently, the Myan Riveria is in pretty good shape.  Word is Cancun has 2/3 of the rooms open and beaches are still being worked on and dredging the ocean for sand to replace and of course, the major loss of greenery in plants and forest.  Cozemel still does not have beachs, pools, or much else for that matter even now.


You can view some pix pre, during and after Wilma here:  http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLandingSignin.jsp?Uc=6ater84.xr3iv10&Uy=62dqnx&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0


Squirrels Benefits from hurricane
As I type this morning, I have been watching, fascinated, two little squirrels in my garden.  I have two pecan trees which were full and heavy before Hurricane Rita.  Before the storm I watched them precariously edge on thin heavy branches to get to the pecans and then scamper from tree to tree back to their nest, where ever that may be (beyond my vision into the trees).  Today, it is just as funny to watch them try to gather all the fallen pecans.  They dash from spot to spot gathering and burying these nuts.  They don't even seem worried about my cat and dog as they usually are.  What a joy to work at home and be able to enjoy something like this.
Bringing up hurricane discussion

Just for some other information.  When Hurricane Rita hit in Texas, i.e. Jasper, Beaumont area, these people were not prepared.  They were not prepared because hurricanes do not come in that far inland.  The Jasper area is one of the areas where most hurricane victims evacuate too.  There are people in that area that are still without power including elderly people and children.  Most of the surrounding areas (Pineland, Rosevine, Hemphill) are retirement areas.  These are also low income areas as well.  These people definitely would not have expected the hurricane to effect them in the way that it did, but it did.


 


Also, people in Lufkin and Nacogdoches, Texas were effected from it as well.  Again, a hurricane never has come close to these areas and these areas are also where evacuees come.  During the time we had evacuees from Galveston, Beaumont, Houston, and still the ones we had from Louisiana drained the resources that we did have here (not saying anything negative by this – just a statement).  None of the businesses could get trucks in to deliver gas, food, ice, water, etc.  When we did get gas delivered, the lines were so long that people were waiting 9-10 hours to get gas and of course by the time most got up there, it was gone again.  This went on for several days.  Even the Wal-Mart here and in Nacogdoches was only able to be open a few hours a day and for the first few days after the hurricane because of the amount of extra people in these areas, they finally had to limit the number of people they were allowing in the store at a time.


 


Some of you say, people should be prepared.  I do agree and especially more so if you live in a coastal area.  However, these people affected in the areas I mentioned above do not live on the coast; however, were heavily impacted by this natural disaster.  You are saying these people don't deserver help?!  Well let me tell you this.  When we had a lot of LA evacuees here, FEMA stepped in and for a lot (not all of course) they received $2000.00 for help with housing, another $600.00 for food, and there $400.00 for something else (honestly do not remember what it was).


 


However, my mother and father-in-law who are elderly went 14 days without power, lost everything in the freezer and refrigerator, and they are also raising 2 of their grandchildren (both young teenagers).  They were unable to get FEMA to help with anything. 


 


I guess the point is this.  Before spouting off about who needs to do what or who the government does or does not need to help (or where you tax monies go), you might want to think about the fact that this was a natural disaster and therefore, no one can ever really be prepared for one.  I hope none of you ever have to deal with anything like this.  It is not a pretty site in this area right now.  Clean up is still going on.  There are still trees down on houses and cars.  How would you feel if this were you? 


 


By the way, yes I do feel that my family was very lucky to come through it unscathed; however, some were not so lucky.


 


Just my 2 cents.


Height of hurricane season is Aug-Oct. (SM)
A friend booked a FL vacation during September. Told her don't do it.  She still did.  She had to cancel the entire vacation and "could not believe a hurricane hit."  I always told family/friends to never go anywhere in the Atlantic, Gulf, FL, islands during hurricane season but they book it anyway because it's cheaper, then they complain about hurricanes ruined their plans.  DUH!
katrina help
mtdesk via aamt has all information to help mt's in every capacity from necessities, physical labor, dictation, everything. All is on mtdesk.com with link to aamt.com
Katrina
You are so right about the "forgotten" people. This is like 9/11 where everything was and is still focused on the WTC and NY. The people whose lives were interrupted by the crash in PA and the Pentagon are rarely remembered or mentioned.
Katrina
We live in the northern part of Michigan out in the boonies and my husband is a volunteer firefighter which is what we have in this area. At his meeting last evening, the chief announced that any interested firefighters should apply to help FEMA in the clean-up effort. They are paying $24 per hour and living conditions are "rustic". My husband is unable to go but two from the department applied. This has nothing to do with fires, only clean-up. Why can't the people who are able help for free without all these checks? I'm sure there would be a few "rotten apples" looking for valuables to steal but I'm sure this could even happen with the "checked" helpers. I am in poor health and cannot physically go but I do feel I would like to help in some way in addition to cash donations.

Also, I am so glad that there are people helping the animals. I would be the one sitting on the bridge refusing to leave without my dogs & cats as they truly are members of my family.
RE: Katrina
But, with Katrina, they could have been online and backed up somewhere inland where it would not have bothered the records.
No, unless a hurricane is on its way, the Olympics are on, or news like today's. nm
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Just stay away from Florida during hurricane season. nm
:)
Any medical centers in hurricane area need help?

How can we find out and how can we help?


http://www.gonzalescofc.com/hurricane.html
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thinking of going to Cancun. Did the hurricane hit it too hard?

1 hurricane in 30 years or every year. I'd take Texas :)
Just kidding with u but I have been to Florida..... Talk about illegals! woweee. Not saying all over, just where I have been. See...... generalizations help no one. If you don't live there, you do not know so please consider your response. And, yes I was actually raised in Pasadena/Houston TX area and NO WAY would I want to live there again. :)
The trees are the main concern in a hurricane (sm)
the lake didn't even get close to the house during that supposed "100-year flood" in 1993 (not allison, the other one).  We went to the other side of Houston for Rita, came back the next day.  It was a mess with limbs all over but no trees down on our property.  Next-door neighbor had 3 down.  We've decided for the next one, we will stay in the garage and hope no trees fall on the house.
Anyone out there in Katrina's path? It looks like it's going to be a bad one.
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I have this to say on the Katrina issue
I know a minute seems like a lifetime to the people suffering throughout this situation. BUT... American WILL respond. We will open our pocketbooks, donate our time, resources and supplies. Some have even opened their homes. Stop pointing fingers at what is not being done. This is an unprecedented catastrophy in our country. There are many issues to deal with. It's like our boss at work always says, we don't always know what is going on behind the scenes or why something is being done, but trust that things are being done.  Stop the blaming and complaining and do something positive.Put some effort into getting supplies together instead of coming to this board to point fingers and blame. Stop making it a political issue or a racial issue. It is neither. Spend your time in prayer instead of criticism.
Volunteering as MT to help with Katrina
Does anyone know where I can go to volunteer as a MT to help in the Katrina clean up?  The Red Cross has no idea!!!
Katrina criminal..
Sorry, I don't see your logic here. So, if 1 in 4 was a Katrina evacuee, that means 3 of the 4 were your homegrown criminals - right?
Is Hurricane Dennis affecting anyone's work today?
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Figure out a way to stop a freakin' category 5 hurricane?
This was a NATURAL disaster, hello! How do you stop a 175 mph powerhouse? You don't..you just get out of the way.
See hurricane board for ways to help N.O.area animals. NM
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Hurricane Rita just upgraded to Category 5 with winds of 165 mph
I hope everyone from TX stays safe. Learn from Katrina.
People die and lose everything on a daily basis, not just hurricane
victims. I wish people would stop insinuating that everyone in the country who is getting on with their own lives is selfish or uncaring.
To those below arguing politics...

Please dispute this.  I welcome it.  It seems like Bush's "lies" had lots of company, although those quoted below have washed their hands of their own comments.  How convenient.


 


    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.


    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.


    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998.


    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998


    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.


    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.


    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by Joe Lieberman (D-CT), John McCain (Rino-AZ) and others, Dec. 5, 2001


    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
    Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.


    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.


    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.


    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.


    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.


    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I b elieve that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.


    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.


    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.


    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.


    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.


    "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his contin ued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.


Office politics. SM

There was a lot of that before I became an MT.  Maybe I was just lucky, after I went into MT we were on a great incentive plan and were highly competitive, I don't think we had time to gossip and backstab. I know what you mean though, I have had those jobs.


About Politics Board (sm)
is ForuMatrix part of MTStars?  I couldn't quite figure it out.  I see Billers/Coders forum is hosted there as well.  Please explain?
Please take to Politics. Locking. (NM)
Goldbird
office politics
I will never forget the Friday night when, after working from 6:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. Monday through Thursday, I left my desk at 5:25 to head for home and my supervisor went ballistic. After four 12 hours days, I left my desk 5 minutes early (it was a good 5 minute walk to the time clock) and she got angry with me. Nor will I forgot all of the times my supervisor procastinated on deadlines and guess who was there late meeting her deadlines? In-house is not for me, I enjoy my freedom.
What do politics have to do with this challenge?

I feel bad that you lost your account, but you don't need to be taking your anger out on other people and start calling them Republicans and blaming her for your belief of the mistreatment of MTs.  This was a simple challenge on how to make more money and spend your time wisely.


It's still on the Politics board
Under the title "Do you think people will begin to take any job."
Politics and gourds
I need to check in to the politics board, haven't  been there in awhile.  Still painting gourds and other stuff.  Off today with the grandkids to do some cave exploring and try to cool off.
TO ADMINISTRATORS- Katrina board?

Would it be possible to set up a Katrina board?  I work with a lot of the MTs, QAs, supervisors and ancillary personnel from the New Orleans area.  We are all looking to make sure that our friends and coworkers from that area are safe or if they are in need, what they need.  Could you set up a board so that those of us looking for people can ask about them and for displaced people to try to find some help?  I think it would be greatly appreciated. 


is it possible the accounts are affected by Katrina?
Many large hospitals and clinics in those three states are not running right now and so there would be no dictation coming in?
Katrina's Displaced Pets

As most of you know by now, lots of the evacuees are refusing to go because they don't want to leave their pets behind.  For all you you pet lovers out here, I've found two sites that are trying to help out in this area that I thought I'd pass on...


www.hsus.org   (Humane Society of America)


www.petfinder.com


To discussion of Katrina victims

Everyone is playing the blame game.  It doesn't matter who did what or did not do now.  What matters now is to go on with life and reach in our hearts (Although some of you do not seem to have one) and give to the less fortunate.  This disaster will not only effect those in the coastal areas.  This will effect the whole United States and the world in some form or another.  Louisiana had a population estimated at 4 million.  More than a 1/4 of that population is without homes.  Can you imagine the indignity they indure living in shelters?  As a Louisiana resident, I would like to point out that the victims in the media are not the only victims.  They are the poorest of poor.  They do have many families and individuals that are displaced, living with relative, hotel rooms, no jobs.  Other states have taken in many of the victims but there are small rural communities and cities all over Louisiana itself that have taken in these people.  In the small high school in my community, enrollment went up by 200 students almost doubling the student body.  The small Catholic school my son attends took in over 40 students. Grocery stores running out of food because the extra people and trucks being delayed.  The list of changes and difficulties go on. 


Like 9/11, this disaster will forever change America.  Not all of the changes will be bad although it seems that way now.  This is the time people should stick together and focus on the good things that are happening, not the few people that take advantage of the situation or the people who have no souls and think of themselves.  Take an active roll in helping these people, you are not only helping them, you are also helping yourself and the whole country.  I have visited the shelters and I have close friends who have actually gone to help with the rescue.  Again, this did not just happen to the gulf coast. 


I will continue to say an extra prayer for all victims, and especially those of you who seem not to have a heart or soul where others are concerned.


Katrina in Mississippi/Alabama

Does anyone know of contacts in Mississippi/Alabama that are needing help for their people who have lost everything?  We chose to donate cash to the Salvation Army.  By the time I got around to cleaning out my closets, neither the SA or ARC were taking clothing donations and I'm one of those people who is very bad about buying things and then never wearing them so much of the stuff has tags still attached, not exactly junk.  Now that it's gathered up, I'll just donate it to our local Helping Hands but would like do whatever we can do to help the people of Miss/AL in particular.   It seems they are the "forgotten refugees."  At least in our area, we see very little about them but did see a news clip last night that looked like they were as devastated as NO, if not more so.  Surely they need help too?  TIA for any info.


RE: Katrina in Mississippi/Alabama
We had the same problem. All kinds of good stuff and no one had room left for donations of clothing, etc. Our community came up with the idea of a gigantic garage sale and donate the proceeds to the Red Cross. So that is exactly what is happening next weekend. Sorry if this is a double post, my cat ran over my keyboard. He feels so good every morning!!
Not totally replaced...only for Katrina
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