IF I WENT TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO WORK
Posted By: I WOULD BE EXPECTED TO LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE on 2009-03-28
In Reply to: I think that just because they come here - to practice medicine doesn't mean they
This is NOT racisim. This is plain common sense and courtesy.
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Aruba is a foreign country. Their laws
are different than U.S. Father said "no body, no crime" because he knows in their system if they have no body, they have no crime. Therefore, they have to find a body...or they can't prosecute for murder.... Their laws, not ours. That is what it is when you travel outside the country, you are under the foreign country's laws.. Really too bad but that is how it is.
It's the topic of the moment. You must be in a foreign country maybe.
There was a catastrophic hurricane with a devastating flood afterwards! A disaster of biblical proportions! Many people lost their homes, the worldly positions, billions of dollars in loss. Lives were lost, the poor, the elderly and the infirmed. We watched it on the news (it was on here in the U.S. around the clock). Try www.cnn.com for all the details.
I was living in a foreign country with my parents, probably getting ready for
elementary school. Didn't even know who he was. I don't remember my parents mentioning it, but it was shortly after that when the stupid joke about "What would it take to reunite the Beatles?" came out.
Hey rimrods!!! He fully disclosed he was foreign, it was foreign
trying to catch him telling lies when he already told you he was. Really smart people around here. Call names, insult, tell everyone to leave and go to another site and then wonder why your posts are being deleted. At least he's not feeding everyone a load of CRAP about offshoring. He simply told the truth.
It's a free country. She can work where she wants UNLESS..SM
If there's some kind of contract that says she can't work anywhere else, then that might be a problem. Otherwise I just can't see anything legally wrong with it unless it can be proved she's sharing private information. I agree - I'd stay out of it completely.
I would say NO otherwise our work wouldn't be in a 3rd world country.
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foreign....
Oh, boo hoo! Those foreigners learn our language so they can take our jobs and our money, you numbskull. They aren't here to help us. They take advantage of our laws which actually seem to favor foreigners over citizens, especially if the foreigners are "minorities." (An interesting term since the only true minority in this world is white people. About 85% of the world's population is non-white.)
People like you who think you are so tolerant, are part of the problem. In this country we would all be learning Chinese if the situations were reversed and China was the country with the open door policy and all the wealth.
BTW, I lived and worked in Latin America and learned Spanish BEFORE I went there - I didn't expect the people of Colombia to pay to have everything I needed translated into my own language, which is precisely what these foreigners who come here to leech off us expect.
I'm an MT....slavery is not foreign to me.
Whatever it takes.
foreign docs
And why do a lot of those same ones who speak such poor English also make no sense in putting together their sentences? I have several that sound like they are clenching their teeth together and straining to get the words out which makes it even worse. I know exactly what you mean. Their oughta be a LAW! 
Those foreign guys
Yeah, we've all had our share of "those" guys. I worked in Radiology for a Spanish guy for about two years. He thought his English was perfect, so anytime there were blanks he went off of his latino-rocker. So I finally get this guy "nailed" where I can transcribe his reports just as fast as the others, and then what happens.. ? I lose the stinkin' account to VR! So he still sends me work on occasion and guess what .... he's crystal clear NOW, and why? Voice Recognition doesn't DO gibberish ... it trained HIM! HA! (Course he has to speak slowly now, losing lots of "billable hours" And of course, they had to hire an Editor to clean up the reports, punctuate, and correct his English.) Go figure! ');>![](https://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/sowhat.gif")
Seriously, though, if you can't stay with that ESL day-in and day-out for at least a month, you will never get him. Why companies bombard MT's with different docs from day-to-day is just beyond me. If QA were REALLY that important, they wouldn't do that.
You all are talking foreign to me
I have ShortHand and love it, but you left me way behind. A Shorthand course would be great.
isn't SPI a foreign company
Maybe you could work for them. They bought out Cymed.
foreign dictators
Wow, you sound so full of hate!!!Do you even know how difficult it is to learn another language? Have you ever tried to speak another language?
I don't particularly care for ESL's but...
foreign dictators!!
From one blondie to another--I couldn't agree with you more!
Drives me crazy, not to mention my so-called "productivity!"
What does the site being down have to do with foreign MTs?
Bonus from OJT - foreign dictators. (sm)
I learned OJT in a small hospital with a PDR, Dorlands and a boss with an attitude from &*^%&*^. There were only about 7 doctors on staff, 4 of which were foreign. I started off learning to cope with a Thai accent in a physician who had had a speech defect, a Nigerian, a Swede and a Czech. It was a painstaking way to learn, but I am greatful every day that accents have become a way of life for me. I almost prefer them to some of those mealy-mouthed speed demons.
I can remember cursing when they would say "Go back up and change this". Just rip that paper out of the typewriter and start again.
My children can't imagine a time before computers. Will have to take them to a museum someday and show them what life used to be like.
It's not the foreign workers who are at fault sm
The fault lies with the big US corporations who are the greedy SOBs that have outsourced the jobs so they can save billions over what they would pay workers in the US.
So, to be rude to and cuss out these working people is not going to get us anywhere. What we should do is boycott the corporations who are sending the work overseas. Maybe if they lose enough business they will get smart to themselves and bring the jobs back to the US workers.
I don't do foreign-speaking docs....
Either they speak English and speak it clearly or they don't have me for their transcriptionist. I'll be danged if I'm going to spend 15 minutes trying to figure out their dictation because they "don't speekee English," or they dont' want to take the time to speak it clearly. Let an MT who doesn't value their time or money transcribe for them! Some may think that's heartless, but that's just the way it is. I'm in this business to make money, not coddle docs who can and refuse to speak straight.
First Job, given only foreign dictators, and never the same. Doing allright, however, should I look
  This is my first job, and I am never given the same dictator. Also, this is hospital work with basically any kind of reports. Only doing about 200 lines a day for 6 cents. Should I look for another job???
Focus stands for Foreign
Focus is an Indian company, you know. Most who have been there were not happy, and many MTs only go there because they are fresh out of school and find it hard to get the experience they need. Just FYI.
I do have a 2nd job with US owned co. that I love. Foreign
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It's shameful if the new owner is foreign but
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I think the foreign kid adoptions are liberal Hollywood
I don't think these kids are anything more than a fashion accessory/photo op for these phonies. I'm sure she and the other "stars" who adopt these kids for whatever attention/approval-seeking reasons have a full staff on hand 24/7 to take care of the kids when the cameras aren't rolling.
I doubt Angelina's ever been vomited on or crapped on (at least not by her kids anyway).
I think MTSO should inquire of foreign docs if they want their
Like it should be standard practice for transcription services to require hospitals to ask------------------
Dr. Pammmmbogmamajama - would you like your dictation to go to India. Check YES or NO.
Dr. Filiyambo - would you like your dictation to go to PHILIPPINES. Check YES or NO.
Dr. MacIntiremeout - would you like your dictation to go to IRELAND. Check YES or NO.
Dr. Chinese - would you like your dictation to go to CHINA. Check YES or NO (we have to know they are creating offices in Shanghi as we speak)
Hey, I can deal with "the boys" from home. But I'm sick and tired of feeling like I chose the wrong profession and should be working in the State Department as translator and should certainly be drawing down lots more salary and getting a WHOLE lot more respect. 
That way we could keep the English dictation in the United States and have it being done by people who have English as their first language.
Ha! Those jobs they'll just import the foreign PhD on
on one of those work visas as they do nurses and teachers. Pay 'em less and put another American out of work.
Wake up, America! No job is safe any more.
Do you charge more for foreign-speaking doctors? nm
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really?? Worse than the offshore foreign transcriptionists?
That's odd.
venting re foreign patient names
I just typed a long report where the patient has some weird foreign name so it's difficult to tell gender. The doc dictates as a male throughout, i.e. he, his etc. At the end changes it to a female. 
Tired of these low class foreign doctors
They live here but they cannot learn the language. Most should not be here in the first place. They were admitted to medical school with the proviso that they return to their own countries to work as doctors and help their own people; they got all these fancy or free grants to pay for their schooling; American citizens were pushed aside to fulfill the foreign student enrollment requirements for medical school to "help the needy countries health problems". Then they got dollar signs in their eyes. They refused to learn how to talk. They are arrogant, sloppy, nasty, and are too mentally compromised to even learn how to push the right buttons to enter patient numbers into systems. What pigs!!!!!!!!!!! And they expect perfection? I think we should sign every report off with a blurb saying unable to understand dictator, please return him/her to his own country.
are you working for third world foreign doctors?
This has been my experience.
TransTech does this group, too. Awful foreign residents! nm
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My company foreign owned but they have US office people
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Site was foreign built from the beginning..just listed at top only for US
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True! Computer techs are all foreign. Used to be a good-
still have a tech job are usuallyh IC's, with no job security and no benefits. Lots of computer and microchip manufacturing jobs, that spawned the 'Silicon Valley' in California have gone offshore. Now even radiologists have to worry about their jobs, as some places send the x-rays digitally to Philippines to be read.
What I'd like to know is.... What exactly is going to be LEFT in the United States for US to do? Gas station attendant? Nope... most are self-serve, unless you live in Oregon. Wal-Mart Greeter? Hmm... not old enough (or retired enough) for that. Farm worker? Nope. Mexicans have cornered that market. Waitress? Nope. Lots of eat-in restaurants going belly-up these days. Typesetter? Nope. Newspapers are going extinct. Web designer? Nope. Most people can design their own nowadays. Retail? Same as the restaurants. Teacher? Whoa - talk about an underpaid profession! Nurse? Another underpaid one. Not a good choice for us work-at-home recluses. Truck driver? One of the few jobs where they need people, but to make ends meet these days you have to pretty much live in your truck. Flight attendant? Not a good choice for us recluses who hate to fly. Rap artist? Pretty saturated field. Hair stylist? I don't even comb my OWN hair most of the time, and haven't cut it in years. So I'd be pretty useless unless someone with long hair wanted a French braid. Chef or short-order cook? Not if you only cook TV dinners. (Does that count as cooking?) Dog-walker? Nah - I'm a cat-person. Bike-messenger? In my town, most of em don't live very long. You never see middle-aged bike messengers. Taxi-driver? Nope - the Sikhs have cornered that market. Executive secretary? (What? Go back to wearing heels and pantyhose? NEVER!)
Samtel does this all the time. Pretty sure she/he is foreign because of the plain stupidity in it a
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foreign med school gradutes take separate board exams..nm
which are different than American med school grads. There was an article in The NY Times indicating that new regulations are being pushed that would require foreign med school graduates to take a two-part board exam to practice medicine here, with one part of the exam being English proficiency. Hmmm..that should be interesting. I don't think you have all of your facts straight.
off shoring means the company actually moves there. - of course I mean outsourcing to foreign lands.
they may up their ante but they will always undercut us in price, because they can. No Work Comp, no EOE, no OSHA, no health insurance. If they charged the same as us, what would be the point?
As Economy Slumps, Firms Line Up to Hire Skilled Foreign Workers
 What the heck is going on around here? It just gets better by the day!
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/economy-slumps-firms-line-hire-skilled-foreign-workers/
This country has....
more safety nets than almost anywhere else on earth. There are food stamps, WIC, food pantries, missions, churches, etc. I don't believe there are policies in place to purposely make sure children go to bed hungry. There MUST be some personal responsibility here. I don't hear much out of you along that line, just blame. CEOs, big corporations, blah blah blah
what right do we have to tell another country what to do?
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What Country do you come from?
You don't sound like you come from the USA.
Isn't this the same country that
our young men gave their lives for back in the 60s and early 70s, in order to fight communism, and now is a communist country? These greedy companies would send work to a Taliban country if they thought they could save a buck! They are causing the downfall of the USA.
You have obviously never BEEN to a 3rd world country.
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R we talking about the same country???
He's cut everything from education to welfare to finanal aid to.....and so on ad nauseum...read a paper now and then.
Most of the people in this country
Are way too dependent on the government to save them and are looking for a free handout. While I have sympathy for those whose homes have been destroyed, I agree that you should have some sort of a back-up plan of water, canned goods, etc., to prepare for an emergency. This is just common sense. We had really bad fires in Arizona this year and I was prepared and ready to leave if I had to and didn't wait around for somebody to come rescue me. People need to be more self reliant and not wait for somebody else to take care of them. The hurricane victims had plenty of time to stock up on canned goods, water, etc., before the hurricane hit. I have relatives in Florida and they had to evacuate, but they had planned ahead and had canned food and water ready for when they came back, as they knew there would be nothing available. I think Kennedy's quote of-- Ask not what your country can do for you-- would be very appropriate in this day and age when everybody stands around waiting for a free government handout. These people would never had made it as pioneers----.
Maybe someone else in another country is typing it?
Yes, the dumbing-down of our country.
the 5 freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment but can name all the characters of the Simpsons? We need to get off the couch, turn off the boob tube and read a book once in a while. I love my country, but we aren't doing ourselves any favors by being stupid.
Oh like she was fat! That's what's wrong with this country.
And I'm not an overweight angry person....just in case you want to bash. I am actually fit but I don't agree with the mentality about weight in this country. My niece is 15 and a little bit overweight so I'm sensitive to it. What are you, anorexic? Please!
Then we have a problem in THIS country because...
The statistics show that a full TEN PERCENT of American 10-year-old boys are on ADHD medications. That isn't even counting the girls. I think when you include the girls the percentage of kids on ADHD medications approaches 20%. So if it's true that about 3% to 5% of people actually have ADHD (I can buy that), then we are over diagnosing and over medicating way too many kids. More often than not when I type an office note about a kid on ADHD medications the doctor also mentions some kind of turmoil in the home, i.e. divorced parents, kids living with grandparents. I once helped out on a field trip for my daughter when she was in 2nd grade and it was like a mobile hospital what with trying to keep up with which kid got what pill at what time throughout the day. It was ridiculous.
What part of the country are you in?
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I don't know what part of the country...
you live in, but around here you can hardly get into a restaurant, the malls are FULL of people so that it's hard to park, and the BIG trucks and SUV's just keep roaring past me. Outsourcing has been going on for 30+ years... People adjust their careers, oro something else pops up that out does somebody else's idea. Nothing stays the same, you gotta change with the times. Many outsourced jobs are low skill jobs that Americans want to be paid big money to do... Well guess what, it isn't going to happen. So get yourself another career. I've had THREE of them myself. I've been a nurse, a commercial lines insurance rater (that all went computerized), and now I'm an MT. What good does it do to sit here in cyber space moaning and groaning about something that's been going on for decades and isn't going to stop no matter how much you complain.
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