I was just in Aruba -very nice island
Posted By: kids need to be street smart on 2005-07-05
In Reply to: Any thoughts on the case in Aruba? - Just curious
Aruba is just like any other tourist destination where as long as you stay in the tourist areas, do not wonder off into the downtown areas at night and practice basic street-smarts, then there is no need for alarm and it is just as safe as any other place. I went to Aruba last month and we had a nice stay but I also went there years ago when I was about 16 w/my friend and her family. Of course we drank our little hearts out but we stayed in the hotel area and never wandered off. I will admit that we were harrassed by locals a bit (and I think it was because we were so young) but we ignored them and ALWAYS stayed together- we used our street smarts!!
It sounds as tho this young girl did not have as much street smarts as you or I. I would never leave with guys I just met by myself even if I were at a bar in my hometown area, nevermind in another country! It is common sense but unfortunately this young girl didn't know any better, or for whatever reason maybe she thought that she was safe with these boys and she probably thought they were just regular kids just like her & her friends. It is very sad that she possibly had to pay the ultimate price for what she thought was just an innocent mistake.
We as parents try to protect our children from so much, but at the same time, I think sometimes we are so focused on keeping the evil of the world out, that we possibly make our children more vulnerable.
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Aruba
 Yes, she is an American, but she is an American missing in a foreign country. Just as we have to abide by the rules of another country's government, when in that country, the same holds true here.
There is an excellent team of volunteers from Texas in Aruba, the FBI also is on the island. I've heard on CNN that there have been cases of young,female tourist being kidnapped in Aruba, then shipped not to far to Venezuela, to be held to work as a prostitute.
In that case, then we'd have to tell yet another government, that we followed the trail to your country and now our agents will be moving in
We are the greatest nation on earth, but we do not have the right to just force our way into another country and demand they do things our way
FBI in Aruba
 Do you have any clue as to how many born and bred American citizens, under the age of 21, many under 15, our precious children, who have been taken by their parent, who is of another nationality, kidnapped from their custodial parent and wisked away to a foreign country by the other parent?
This usually occurs when the idiotic courts give visitation to said parent, knowing full well they are a flight risk, yet duh...."trust they won't do anything stupid"
As of 6 months ago, there were 2138 children born in the US, American citizens, that have unwillingly been taken to a foreign country, leaving their custodial parent caught in this catch 22 of trying to get their child back
The Hague Convention specifically prohibits this action, has rules to force the other country to return these children, yet the custodial parent is often left to hire Soldiers of Fortune to go in, stake out the country, living area, school where these children are, then they attempt to do what our country, the country that SHOULD be bringing these children home, fail to do! This should automatically be done, yet we have to try to argue "diplomatically" all the while these kids are kept from their parent the courts gave custody to. It's not cheap to hire a hit squad to get your kids back, it cost's thousands of dollars to do so.
In my opinion, the USA/FBI/CIA/ SECRET SERVICE all should be concentrating on THESE innocent victims a bit more than a young 18 yr old that made a bad judgement.
Where is the face time for the mothers or fathers of these children...the media won't give it to these kids, unless it is deemed worthwhile, and IMHP, each and every one of these children is worthwhile. It's just such an overwhelming thing to go through...I know, my nephew is somewhere in Saudi Arabia, growing up now for 3 yrs thinking his mother is dead or did not want him
ARUBA CASE
The parents had to known she was going to drink in Aruba. Why would these 17 and 18 years want to go of course to drink or they could have went to Florida instead. Even though this girl made bad judgement if she drank to much and went off with these guys this did not have to happen. We need to blame who ever did this. If my 18 year old wanted to go to Aruba I would probably say yes but lecture her a head of time. I know my 18 year probably drinks in college but I told her I don't want to know this. What I do not see I don't have to worry about it. I have no control of her when she is in college but she is not allowed to drink in our house or anyone elses until she is 21. I have a feeling that her body has been thrown in the ocean. The whole situation is so so sad.
perhaps you should go to Aruba and help with the investigation (nm)
Speaking of Aruba....
You are EXACTLY right. Good post. We're both going to be crucified for this.
Any thoughts on the case in Aruba?
Little by little they are losing ground. Commentator was saying that even if the last person to see her alive was Joran, the 17-year-old still in jail, they can't prove anything. Maybe they fell asleep on the beach and when he woke she was gone. Commentator said that if after all this time they could not break a 17-year-old and get a confession, with his two friends and father in jail, there is a possibility that he did not do it.
PS: I think her mother should go home instead of second-guessing the government over there. She is convinced the three are guilty with the father as an accomplice. How do you come to that conclusion with sureness? That's kind of like some foreigner over here coming over and if something were to happen to them and they disappeared after a night of drinking and last being seen with a stranger, his parents come over and criticize our legal system because we can't PROVE foul-play. Just a bit over-the-top for a mother who should be grieving the loss of her daughter instead of criticizing the authorities. Hey and another thing, how about criticizing the chaperones who lost contact with the daughter and did not discover she was missing till she failed to show up at the airport!!
Missing girl in Aruba
Here in the midwest, we recently had a "found college girl", seven years after she disappeared from Texas, and was presumed dead. Turns out, she and her parents had a huge blow-up over a boy, she took off, never to be heard of again....UNTIL, somehow, someone saw her picture in the very same Wal-Mart she had been working in for 5 yrs! She still did not want to talk to her folks, but they since have made small inroads into reuniting
So you are educated in the laws of Aruba? Wow.
I sound like I have lack of knowledge about this case, as does Mrs. Twitty. So, I guess me and Mrs. Twitty should look to you for explanations and answers as to where her daughter is and what happened to her? Do you have some inside info the rest of the world is not privy to? I'm just wondering because if not, you are blowing a lot of hot air around and basically just about as uneducated about the laws and the evidence surrounding this case as the rest of us.
Aruba is a foreign country. Their laws
are different than U.S. Father said "no body, no crime" because he knows in their system if they have no body, they have no crime. Therefore, they have to find a body...or they can't prosecute for murder.... Their laws, not ours. That is what it is when you travel outside the country, you are under the foreign country's laws.. Really too bad but that is how it is.
Aruba is not as well equipped to handle this situation (sm)
 as the U.S. is...so therefore, if they are in over their heads, THEY should ask for the U.S. to help, period! That is a resort country, equipped basically to show tourists a good time, and not to handle a missing American case! See my point?
I don't know how you can take off for weeks at a time with all your close relatives and go to Aruba
and not be wealthy. Could you? Indefinitely? You and your husband? And her husband said they may buy a house there if necessary because the mother is not going home w/o Natalee. So assuming that resort island property is not cheap, they can afford to buy a house in Aruba? Can you?
Chandra Levy's parents said the same thing. It's not about Aruba.
It's about the parents. Be mad as hell if you want to. Blame Aruba. But do it quietly. Because if the parents knew ANYTHING, they would catch the perpetrator. They know nothing but just spout accusing everyone of illegal activity just as you do. I do know Aruba and not everyone is related to everyone and there is a blend of nationalities just as Joran is Dutch and the two boys with him were obviously a different nationality. To oversimplify the situation by calling everyone crooked and criminal in Aruba is insane. Perhaps Natalee did some drunk swimming and everyone else in Aruba who has lived life nicely on this pleasant island and never killed anyone before are being falsely accused. Consider that.
Speaking of Aruba and Natalle Holloway from post below
It looks like the Arubans are forming a protest of their own who are offended at Mrs. Twitty and the media reporting they are not conducting a proper investigation and their system is bad while America's system of law and order allowed the sex offenders kill children in Florida and Idaho. The Aruban people have a point you know. One news person interviewed protestors and a very literate gentleman suggested Mrs. Twitty was under Aruban law and she should respect that or go home. In a short statement Mrs. Twitty seems to be backtracking after the protests after Mrs. Twitty stated the legal system allowed criminals (the two brothers) to go free and walk among its citizens and tourists. It's about time these people speak out when Americans come over and criticize their government without a clue how it works or if it is working.
Again, there are professional American search teams in Aruba.
Nobody knows the terrain of the island better than the native  Arubans. Together with advice from the FBI, the search team from Texas and the hundreds of Arubans who do know the island they are doing what they can do. They do not need the hysterical rants and accusations from Mrs. Twitty
island
Johnny Deep and icewater, that's all I'd need..lol
Ok, but I would rather buy the island
and banish all of the whiners and complainers there!
Where are you at on the Big Island?
We origially were thinking of moving to the Hilo area, but since my fiance started searching for jobs (he's in construction), he has noticed most of the jobs are in Kailua-Kona. We originally wanted to stay away from the tourist spots (lived in Waikiki before and hated it) and heard Hilo was a more family friendly place. So at the moment we are kind of torn where we want to move. We are going to just live in sublets or temporary housing until we figure out where we want to end up permanently depending on where he gets a job and also where we can still get high-speed internet for mine. Care to share what area you are living in and how you like it?
Well I own my own island right next to Mr. Dicaprio's and as soon as
I have my little jaunt there (with my champagne and caviar), I will be sure to swing by Hawaii and say hello and tootles!! ROFL
Treasure Island
My husband and I were married in Las Vegas last October. We stayed at Treasure Island in a honeymoon suite for around 140.00 per night. This price was Sunday thru Wednesday and then the price is higher for Thursday through Saturday. It was a really, really nice hotel. Our suite had a hot tub and his and her bathrooms. Treasure Island also has some nice restaurants to eat at as well. We were married at Viva Las Vegas, which is right on the strip. Everyone there was very nice and we had a wonderful time. We went out by ourselves so it is nice that Viva Las Vegas has a live web cam so friends and family back home can see you getting married. Getting married at a wedding chapel that is not connected with a hotel is a lot cheaper. I think our wedding package was around 400.00 and that included everything including our proofs. We had a limo that picked us up from our hotel, took us to get married and then brought us back. This was a wonderful experience that neither of us will ever forget. I would also suggest eating at Emeril's Delmonico Steakhouse as well as Hard Rock Cafe. Any other info you would like I would be happy to share. Conratulations and good luck!!!
Mine too!! Would love to be on that little island
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$2.73 here on Vancouver Island, BC Canada
Its $1.05 a litre and with the conversion, about $2.70 a gallon. Yikes, when will it stop going up??
lori who? wonder what island SHE lives on - sorry for being cat-ee
 not surprised guess I should really go read the story but if no details
of this person first I wonder if she really exists and if so and if they
can't brag on her situation, why can't they?
it should have been gwendolyn gopp from Op, Alabama who has worked for MQ
for 5 years or something like that. show a picture, show us her co-workers, show
us.
Paradise Island Bahamas
It is beautiful there and lots to do
You know, I felt exactly like I had been "thrown off the island"
I never watch "Survivor" or any other reality TV show but I have heard enough about it to know how it works. It saddens me that our young people are growing up with that kind of example - plotting behind other people's backs, ganging up on one member of the "team", always being out for number one.
Maybe "Leave It To Beaver" and "The Andy Griffith Show" were unrealistic, but at least they had good role models and discussed issues such as being kind to others, being truthful, and being a good person.
I know there are good people in the world - I just wish there were more of them.
sounds good to me right about now. when's the next boat to the island?
i'm ready.
Tybee Island, GA? Just a jaunt from Savannah. nm
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St. Simons versus Jekyl Island
Jekyl Island is 7-8 miles south US 17 of St. Simons. They offer beautiful beaches, hotels, bike trails, golf, camping, and fishing. It is a more secluded vacation place. As you already know St. Simons has great restaurants, boutique shopping, etc. Just depends on what you are looking for in a vacation spot. I live in Brunswick. Hope this helps.
Majority of these came thru Ellis Island. Didnt
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Respectfully disagree island girl
I was merely trying to point out that if one comes to rally the troops on such a topic, they need to know what they talking about. Quite honestly, this is a huge part of the reason MT is where it is today. We have our own US MTs who know nothing beyond typing their report and tallying their line count. Kudos to you for looking beyond and health care management. Unfortunatley, you may find yourself on the other side of the ball though, so be prepared. As part of the healthcare management team, you'll be expected to tow the line as far as cost cutting and hospitals are doing it every day. It's not the MT companies choosing to offshore, but rather the larger hospitals are demanding it to cut costs. Look around - hospitals are shutting their doors because they're out of money.
Respectfully disagree island girl
I was merely trying to point out that if one comes to rally the troops on such a topic, they need to know what they talking about. Quite honestly, this is a huge part of the reason MT is where it is today. We have our own US MTs who know nothing beyond typing their report and tallying their line count. Kudos to you for looking beyond and health care management. Unfortunatley, you may find yourself on the other side of the ball though, so be prepared. As part of the healthcare management team, you'll be expected to tow the line as far as cost cutting and hospitals are doing it every day. It's not the MT companies choosing to offshore, but rather the larger hospitals are demanding it to cut costs. Look around - hospitals are shutting their doors because they're out of money.
Okay I'm Really Bored. If you could only have one food and one person on desert island, what and
who would it be? No fair family members. We want a famous person and one food item to picnic forever on this island.
Love at first sight on the Long Island RailRoad
On the Long Island Railroad, traveling to Greenwich Village for the day and he traveling to a concert in Queens, NY. The instant I looked at his face and he talked to me and sat across from me on the train, I knew we would make history together, I knew something was gonna happen between us. He got off the train, I continued on to Greenwich Village, NYC..didnt get his number, nor he mine. Four months later I was driving into my apartment parking lot and he was driving behind me, said he recognized me from my sunglasses as I looked in the rear view mirror. He asked for my phone number and the rest is history..It was truly love at first sight..
Forgot to give websites! Shell Island
http://www.shellisland.com/
East Islip High School, Long Island. ..nm
cc
Thousands of peoples identification stolen in Rhode Island
to buy state permits.
How nice is this keyboard? Nice light touch?
I have a regular Microsoft ergonomic one now but I'm thinking I should probably get a replacement and use mine as a backup.
I was nice today, and people were nice to me.
If you steer away from the nastiness, there are a few nice and encouraging posts in there. 
Pull your head out of the ground Coney!! We have people here right here in NY on CONEY ISLAND who n
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Be nice
This is just the kind of response people are referring to........ try to be a little less defensive/offensive
Nice!
 Nice! My guinea pig would LOVE you!
Thank you so much! It's nice to know that someone
else believes in those of us who never received formal training as an MT but love our jobs and do them well (my QA score is 98% or better).
Not sure. It would be nice if across the
board all MQ offices would be exactly the same. It would save a lot of confusion among MTs. It seems that every single office has different policies and different requirements. They need to do something about that.
Well nice is as nice does ...
there are some people who would think I was being false and "Miss Nice" if I were to do all the "bless your little heart" business.
I'm matter of fact. I expect adults to be mature and fully developed in their thinking ... instead of the juvenile "OMG, I can't believe I can't get what I want" attitude.
We can agree on one thing...neither of us likes the other one's attitude. Hahahaha
You want to complain and whine like an insolent child. That's your right.
I'd rather throw a little mature advice, hints and tips on how to survive, how to make it, when to call it quits, etc. I'm not sitting on a throne anywhere having no idea what I'm talking about. I've been there and I'm speaking from experience - experiences of failure and success, happiness and discontentment, etc.
If you're over 18, you don't need to be babied. That's what your mother is for.
This is an adult world. Grow up. Be accountable. Be responsible. It's your life. You make every single decision and you are in control. To let anyone else control your life -- that is a choice as well and not a smart one.
You can just keep on sitting here, splashing around in the pity pool! Soon you'll be all shrivled up and prune-like. Hahaha Or, you can get out. Dry off. Decide what you want to do, where you want to go, and get the heck out of Dodge.
Guarantee you -- in 2 years, in 5 years, and more -- the majority, not all but the majority, of the complaining, whining, unhappy MTs will still be here, still on this forum, still with the same song and dance, with the same problems, with the same attitude. Not all, but most. They will be left behind.
That's not very nice to say
I do not think the employees of MDI are treated "like crap and fight for the work".
I am a Transcriptionist myself and I treat my MT's the way I would like to be treated myself.
If you don't know how we pay ALL full time employees' ULD, then you could not have worked for us.
It is truly unfortunate that you feel this way. You may call me at any time to discuss your statements. Thanks, Liz
Nice!!!!
LOL!!!
I am nice!
I do play nice until the other people throw the first punch, so to speak.
nice lie.
Whats this imaginary recruiters name
that's not nice
Hey now, I have an uncle ron and he is the best damn lover I have ever had - do you want him for a night?
yes, very nice.....
about your job with MQ! LOL
Now, this is nice!
Yikes, we must have done something wrong because our posts are all gone . Oh well. Glad we agree on some things. As the saying goes, life would be very boring if we all agreed on everything and there was no such thing as opinions. Keeps life interesting!
Actually, in my opinion, Frankie boy had me rolling on the floor. I know undoubtedly some of his remarks were down right crude, but for some reason the people were just responding to him which just kept him going and going and going.
So glad we understand each other and accept the differences we have. Have a good day!
WOW - It's nice
I work two jobs - a hospital job 10 hours per day and my night job for an orthopaedic clinic (many, many years). I just put my 13 inch from the kitchen in my office. I feel it will come in handy for bad weather, etc, during the day. BUT - at night, this is nice. I am typing my clinic notes with no problem and am listening to the news at the same time.
Usually, I listen to music. It actually is really nice with the news on right now - and I can type like crazy during the commercials!! THANKS FOR THE IDEA!!!
I had thought about it before when we were expecting Katrina, but didn't follow through with it. I'm glad I did it today.
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