I remember all that, too. The parents rarely, if ever, questioned the teacher or the principal.
Posted By: can see both sides of it on 2005-08-29
In Reply to: Mother volunteers is NOTHING new at all.... - SM
I wonder what the change is? Do we parents have egos because now most of us have as much education as teachers do? Are we unwilling to sit back and never question "authority figures"? Do we remember being wronged in our own childhoods, so we're quick to defend?
I try not to be a buttinsky at my kids' schools, but sometimes I just don't agree with how they're doing things there. One day, three bigger boys with bad home lives and a history of fighting jumped my son, who is the most peaceful kid you've ever met. Two of them held him down while the third one was on top of him punching and kicking him. My son had to bite the kids to get them off of him. He was cut, bruised, and had a bloody nose. Guess who got punished? My son did, for biting. I called the cops and intervened at the school because my son has my full permission to defend himself against bullies, especially on a 3-on-1 situation.
I also remember being punished for things at school when I did nothing wrong, then my parents punished me a second time because of what the teacher said. I got detention for sneezing in class once. One of my teachers publicly humiliated me and threatened to pull me out of all the advanced classes if I didn't publicly apologize to another teacher when I wasn't even the one who said whatever it was she was upset about. One of my male teachers actually picked up a student and slammed him into the chalkboard, ripping the kid's shirt off in the process. So yes, I'm going to stay on the schools and make sure my kids aren't hassled by any burnt out teachers who are just biding their time until retirement. My kids aren't angels, but they're not demon spawn either.
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That's all my principal would let us have
when I was a child. We begged for swings, but he said they were too dangerous. To show him dangerous, we would periodically fall from the moneybars and crack open our heads. :oD
But the real dangers are 4-wheelers and other motorized vehicles. Kids shouldn't be able to go that fast with so much power. It's asking for trouble, and I type reports on those injuries all the time. Parents were complaining to a doc about their son's crushed ankle. He told them they should be grateful - next accident he had would be fatal.
It sounds to me like she needs to talk with the principal or school board.
The school CERTAINLY should have rules about this kind of thing. I don't remember my parents coming to school unless there was a problem. Other than that, unless the teacher requests help with a party or something special, the parents don't belong there and the school should step up for your daughter.
I can't believe this is what is questioned!
Of all the horrid things I see from MTs and MDs, this is so BENIGN! Please..he probably meant the patient has never been pregnant and (therefore or so..) has never had a child. This is really too ridiculous to even respond to. LOL!
Either way.......that should have been questioned by
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It is being questioned, as I stated, because (sm)
it is unusual. It may not be unusual for you, but it is unusual for many of us (prayer is not unusual, but to hear this being dictated is, and that is coming from someone who prays 5 times daily without fail). She has every right to question any dictation before placing it in the report. If an MT has no right to question any part of a physician's dictation, then what is the MT good for?
But you stated you questioned your lead SM
and nowhere in your original post did I read that anyone checked with the doctor. That is the problem we have. If you or the lead had actually checked and he said to change it, fine. But neither of you checked. You asked the lead, the lead said change it and you changed it.
I had questioned values/dosages by leaving
a blank - QA filled it in with what was said -- totally wrong. All we could do was notify our supervisor if we caught it and who knows what happened there.
We could only send a certain percentage of reports to QA, if over that percentage, then our bonus/incentive/whatever they call it now was affected. Didn't matter the reason we sent it, it was the total number of reports sent.
Not all of us are parents. Not everyone had caring parents. nm,
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There wasn't job insecurity, unanswered questioned, behind the scene events that could have major
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I rarely get to do them
I would love to type OPs. I rarely get to do them and like with anything, you don't use it you lose it but most places I work someone has been there longer and knows all the docs who can fly on OPs and that's who gets to do the OPs.
I try to keep in practice with doing it all and really hate to be limited to one type of report.
I'm rarely on here lately because of schedules ...
I work when I want to so stick it if you don't like it! Hahaha
I also use Ask.com, I love OPs but get them rarely, sm
make good money though.
I rarely use my Stedmans
Its so much easier just to type in what your looking for! I must have 20 books just sitting on my shelf!
it's rarely offered anymore, thanks to the
AAMT. They started the whole problem, and then they bailed out after everybody decided it was the most honest method to determine what a "real line" was.
But there's still a way to break even. Go to this web site: http://www.medicalese.org/line_count.html
Figure out what you want to bill for gross lines. That would be under the 45 cpl column (trust me on this ... I did stats for years when I was billing for gross lines). Compare it to what you would get paid if you billed for a 65-char line and that's what you want to be paid.
IOW, if you want to make 9 cpl for gross lines, under the 45 line length column it would be $200. Go over to the 65-char line and see how close you can match things up. It's 13 cpl = $200.00. That's what you want to make the same amount.
I rarely use books any longer....sm
However, I would get Vera Pyle's Med. Term book, Ellen Drake Sloane's Medical Word Book, and Claudia Tessier's Surgical Word Book. Also Quik-Look Drug Book. This is only if you are still using books 24/7/365. The web has faster access in my opinion. 
I rarely watch TV, much too busy. nm
I rarely, if ever, use the 2nd Edition. So nope, I have
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My phone rarely (if ever) rings, but my -
cat is constantly interrupting me, getting in front of my monitor to get attention. Either that, or she'll sit in the kitchen and yowl until I come out to see what on earth is wrong - only to find she's all bummed out because there's a single cat-hair floating in her water dish. :/
This is true. I work for the Q -rarely run out
of work (live in CA). And by the way, I would get paid my benefit rate (which is at least twice the CA min wage. I always thought this was why I never got NJA. But at the same time, I know they would love it if I quit.
We try to set good examples for our kids. We rarely
drink, don't have alcohol in the house except for cooking wine/sherry, don't smoke, don't do drugs, are honest, hard working people. My oldest son has "friends" who smoke, who put vodka in their Coke cans, cuss, steal, etc. My son is a good kid and no I'm not naive and he isn't doing this stuff behind my back because we spend lots of time together. My son is a health freak and won't allow anyone to smoke around him. We've also tried to explain to him that even if he isn't drinking if someone he is with is caught drinking then he is guilty by association and he knows he needs to avoid these kids. He has come home before upset that kids were using seriously foul language. The "F" word at our house is spelled f-a-r-t.
We live in a country club community. The kids around here get new cars when they turn 16. The parents don't keep up with their kids, just give them money. My son has to earn his car with saving $$, keeping out of trouble, and good grades. I don't keep tabs on him 24/7, but I know where he is at ALL times so that if I need to find him I can. He even asks me if he can get on-line so I know he isn't using the computer for porn. He is concerned that he doesn't have enough testosterone because he isn't wanting to sleep with anything that stays still long enough. Don't know that his friends are, but they talk a good talk anyway.
I think you are wise to be concerned and just need to keep open communication with your kids and hope that he makes good choices. My son was a follower when he was younger and I had serious concerns about how he would be growing up, but now he has become a leader and I'm very proud of him because so far he is making good choices.
Rarely use any books anymore. I use Google.
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Same here, I like operative notes, but rarely get them, by the end of the day (see inside)
I am fuming. I make more money on operative notes and am motivated. Discharge summaries are hard to make money on for me, as they are all different.
I am actively looking for another job. I am not one to job hop. I just cant see feeling like this all day long. Good luck.
Millions may have learned it, but rarely perfectly.
And learning it and speaking it are two different things. Lyndia makes a great point.
A pet peeve of mine is American arrogance in the sense that most of us don't really know a second language. Maybe we had some in high school, but most of the people I know speak one language, American English, and that's it. So we don't know how it is but we bash others for not learning it perfectly.
I don't mind the ESLs who try hard to communicate. I get ticked at the ones who don't care, and I think most would agree that it's obvious who those are by their dictation and their patient rapport.
I rarely have expander blips now that I use marker keys.
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My clients hold the work for me. Of course, I rarely take off unless I'm sick. What's a vacati
I have one client for 11 years, another one for 15 years. They wait...they don't want anyone else doing their work. Are they spoiling me or am I spoiling them? My vacations consist of a 2 day fishing trip. One day to the site, 1/2 day fishing, and back home again.
If I'm sick, they understand. I still do the work, but at a pace that won't make me sicker. I sually catch up in a couple days.
Been paying aol since ྛ!! on BYOA now for kids limits, rarely use though
Offshore work is rarely client ready. Who is going to edit
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I've been on Escription for four years and I have rarely hit 2500 lines a day..
Yes, when I have good reports I can do 500 lines an hour, but unfortunately, that does not happen consistently in my day. I can cruise along for a few hours and then hit some ESLs, which just mentally slows me down and then I struggle the rest of the day. If, I was able to sit there 8 hours straight NO interruptions or breaks and easy reports, then I could hit 2500 lines but that is not my reality. Some of the reports are good but I'm telling you.. A LOT of them have to retyped, thus slowing your line count down an hour..and you've just basically done straight typing for a mere 4 cpl. I truly think that editing needs to pay more. I am like you.. I am requiring at least $100 a day.. sometimes I can do it in 6 hours (no breaks and good reports) and sometimes for various reason I have to sit there 12-15 hours (interupptions, ESL, and just bad reports)..So add that up..$100 in 12-15, that's like $8 an hour.. Wal-mart here I come LOL
What about Gen-Y? Try being a teacher.
Excellent article below;does not bode well for our future.
Also article about overweight, under-educated military recruits: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/20/struggling_for_recruits_army_relaxes_its_rules?mode=PF
For once, blame the student
By Patrick WelshWed Mar 8, 7:08 AM ET
Failure in the classroom is often tied to lack of funding, poor teachers or other ills. Here's a thought: Maybe it's the failed work ethic of todays kids. That's what I'm seeing in my school. Until reformers see this reality, little will change.
Last month, as I averaged the second-quarter grades for my senior English classes at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., the same familiar pattern leapt out at me.
Kids who had emigrated from foreign countries - such as Shewit Giovanni from Ethiopia, Farah Ali from Guyana and Edgar Awumey from Ghana - often aced every test, while many of their U.S.-born classmates from upper-class homes with highly educated parents had a string of C's and D's.
As one would expect, the middle-class American kids usually had higher SAT verbal scores than did their immigrant classmates, many of whom had only been speaking English for a few years.
What many of the American kids I taught did not have was the motivation, self-discipline or work ethic of the foreign-born kids.
Politicians and education bureaucrats can talk all they want about reform, but until the work ethic of U.S. students changes, until they are willing to put in the time and effort to master their subjects, little will change.
A study released in December by University of Pennsylvania researchers Angela Duckworth and Martin Seligman suggests that the reason so many U.S. students are "falling short of their intellectual potential" is not "inadequate teachers, boring textbooks and large class sizes" and the rest of the usual litany cited by the so-called reformers - but "their failure to exercise self-discipline."
The sad fact is that in the USA, hard work on the part of students is no longer seen as a key factor in academic success. The groundbreaking work of Harold Stevenson and a multinational team at the University of Michigan comparing attitudes of Asian and American students sounded the alarm more than a decade ago.
Asian vs. U.S. students
When asked to identify the most important factors in their performance in math, the percentage of Japanese and Taiwanese students who answered "studying hard" was twice that of American students.
American students named native intelligence, and some said the home environment. But a clear majority of U.S. students put the responsibility on their teachers. A good teacher, they said, was the determining factor in how well they did in math.
"Kids have convinced parents that it is the teacher or the system that is the problem, not their own lack of effort," says Dave Roscher, a chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams in this Washington suburb. "In my day, parents didn't listen when kids complained about teachers. We are supposed to miraculously make kids learn even though they are not working."
As my colleague Ed Cannon puts it: "Today, the teacher is supposed to be responsible for motivating the kid. If they don't learn it is supposed to be our problem, not theirs."
And, of course, busy parents guilt-ridden over the little time they spend with their kids are big subscribers to this theory.
Maybe every generation of kids has wanted to take it easy, but until the past few decades students were not allowed to get away with it. "Nowadays, it's the kids who have the power. When they don't do the work and get lower grades, they scream and yell. Parents side with the kids who pressure teachers to lower standards," says Joel Kaplan, another chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams.
Every year, I have had parents come in to argue about the grades I have given in my AP English classes. To me, my grades are far too generous; to middle-class parents, they are often an affront to their sense of entitlement. If their kids do a modicum of work, many parents expect them to get at least a B. When I have given C's or D's to bright middle-class kids who have done poor or mediocre work, some parents have accused me of destroying their children's futures.
It is not only parents, however, who are siding with students in their attempts to get out of hard work.
Blame schools, too
"Schools play into it," says psychiatrist Lawrence Brain, who counsels affluent teenagers throughout the Washington metropolitan area. "I've been amazed to see how easy it is for kids in public schools to manipulate guidance counselors to get them out of classes they don't like. They have been sent a message that they don't have to struggle to achieve if things are not perfect."
Neither the high-stakes state exams, such as Virginia's Standards of Learning, nor the requirements of the No Child Left Behind Act have succeeded in changing that message; both have turned into minimum-competency requirements aimed at the lowest in our school.
Colleges keep complaining that students are coming to them unprepared. Instead of raising admissions standards, however, they keep accepting mediocre students lest cuts have to be made in faculty and administration.
As a teacher, I don't object to the heightened standards required of educators in the No Child Left Behind law. Who among us would say we couldn't do a little better? Nonetheless, teachers have no control over student motivation and ambition, which have to come from the home - and from within each student.
Perhaps the best lesson I can pass along to my upper- and middle-class students is to merely point them in the direction of their foreign-born classmates, who can remind us all that education in America is still more a privilege than a right.
Patrick Welsh is an English teacher at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., and a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors.
Another former teacher
I just wanted to let you know you are not the only one who is a former teacher. I have a special ed degree and have taught in several different places, my favorite being with profoundly handicapped adults as a supervisor. However, where I am currently living I have had such a hard time getting back into that field. They only want to hire me for a job that I am totally overqualified for.
I was fortunate enough to find someone who was willing to train me in medical transcription on the job. With all my previous medical experience with education and wiht my on the job experience, I am now a single mom of three who LOVES medical transcription.
Sometimes I feel that I am wasting my degree, but then I hear something that I learned in college or through my previous jobs and know this is what I was meant to ....at least for now.
I don't know if this helps, but I just wanted to let you know you are not alone.
My earnings are very similar to shipaddict. Really good week I can top $1000 but rarely. nm
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Have you called the teacher? sm
Over the years I've had to e-mail and talk on the phone to my child's teachers. If you don't have the teacher's number or e-mail, you could probably call your child's school and get the information. If the teacher is worth his/her salt, they would probably be happy to help you out.
from an MT into a English Teacher
Am thinking of getting some education units (degree hopefully) to become an english teacher. I have been an MT for roughly seven years, five months give or take including schooling. But since i feel that Big Company (fourth down upper left panel of your screen, starts with "m") that says they dont outsource, but we cant be be so sure. I feel that the work is not anymore paying well right now. (maybe im just not getting the big breaks) I feel that i have to check my alternatives - cause im not getting any younger. Its tough out there but i think that god will provide.
Am i too old to be a english teacher?
is there a age requirement on being an english teacher? Or 32 is too old?
Hi TIA, my DH is a former 7th grade teacher and now....
is a high school principal. Don't people like that ignorant poster above really burn you up? As the wife of a teacher, I can vouch for the long hours and dedication that teachers put in. My DH can talk you through a typical week that will prove that most teachers put in 12 months worth of full-time hours and MORE in the 9.5 months that they work. That doesn't even count the summer hours preparing for the next school year. I have sat home on my anniversary because my husband is off chaperoning a trip so the kids can attend a band competition a thousand miles away. We have spent endless dollars of our own supplementing these trips, buying things for needy students, and making "sports supervision duty" a family night out so we can spend a little time with hubby and Dad. Don't even get me started on the vandalism that we've incurred over the last 15 years. Shall I start with the car that some little gang banger started by pouring a gallon of gas into our car and setting it on fire, because he was suspended? Or how about the rocks put into our gas tank of our car? Teachers ought to get hazard pay! Wasn't an asst. principal just gunned down last week? Teachers don't become teaches for the money, believe me. Where else can you finish a bachelor's degree and an 18 month credentialing program for a whopping 25,000 dollars a year (in some areas, more in others). A car mechanic makes twice as much as that!!! So, I pretty much dismiss those people who think teachers sit on their butts all day and skate out the door at 2:30. Their kids are probably the worst of them all.
I used to be a typing teacher...
I used to be a typing teacher and also had long nails at the time. I got one of those split keyboards (ergonomic) and it helped. Having my hands in that position allowed me to type a lot easier with my longer nails. You might give that a try. Keyboards are really cheap.
I think I wanted to be a teacher
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My mom is a retired teacher, so that was something
we never said at home. But as much as I have tried to correct my youngest, he still uses it. And he and my husband say, That DON'T matter. Yikes. doesn't doesn't doesn't. It DOESN'T matter!
You know, when you type doesn't that many times, it no longer looks like a real word. I double checked the spelling and I'm still not sure it's right.
Traveling teacher
Where in MT, you can E-mail me
My son's teacher sent me an e-mail
a couple of weeks ago and I could not believe that she said, "I hope that makes since." This was from a middle school teacher at that. I couldn't help myself but to write back, "I think I was able to make sense out of this."
From reading numerous other e-mails from this teacher, it is apparent that she also does not know how to appropriately punctuate sentences.
Terribly sad, indeed.
Means gross line is a good way to get paid, but is rarely offered anymore. nm
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when the student is ready, the teacher will come
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Too bad we can't have that sound bite..the CB teacher one! LOL
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Math teacher is correct - and if
you'll work for .0725 cents a line, you're hired! 
Hey, maybe we had the same teacher! Cracked the ruler
on the desk and on some guy's knuckles when they were caught looking at the keys or the paper. LOL, she was a true peach!
My English teacher would cringe at the BOS. nm
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If you think you have stress now, wait until you are a teacher.
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Oh, grow up. There is no teacher here to be a "pet" for. (sm)
Unless you're paying me per line to obsess about my grammar and spelling on this message board, I am not going to stress my grammar and spelling. It's just like when I'm talking with friends. I don't say "I cannot" and "he will", I use contractions. However, I would not use contractions in a report. Casual conversation, like here, is different than professional communication, like in an email to a client, or professional work.
In short, get over yourself.
Teacher/baseball coach
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Help! need teacher gift ideas please
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My roommate is going to college to be a teacher and I think she's crazy (sm)
She's going to be an elementary school teacher so maybe it will be better, but her ex-husband was a teacher for middle school and my daughter was a high school math teacher, and both of them gave it up. The discipline is nonexistent in schools, as well as at home. I'm not saying that they should spank a child, but something has to be done. The principals did not enforce the rules of the school, always saying the child had a home live, or some other excuse, but never made any child responsible for their actions. I don't know what the answer is, but I can tell you I wouldn't be a teacher if that was the last profession on earth. My hat is off to anyone who can stick it out, and my prayers are with them.
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