I just had a nasty conversation with a
Posted By: yes and on 2005-07-16
In Reply to: did anyone see the article in Advance magazine - angry poster
telephone rep from India who informed me that all Americans were uneducated, stupid, and "farmers" and that India was getting all the jobs because they were all educated. She shut her fat mouth when I asked if that is why India still practices putting female infants on the hillsides to be eaten by wolves, why so many of their people are starving to death, and why disease is so rampant. They are getting to be the most arrogant bunch of people I have ever seen.
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FWIW, nasty is in the eye of the beholder and you have given nasty as good as you got.
Read your posts again very carefully.
I think the same conversation is going on at
company board, not too far from type. Look for the blonde comments, sadly. I still have no clue which one is better, but I think some posters get into more detail. I personally would always go with spaces, 65 character line including spaces, but that's just me!
This whole conversation seems to have gone off in - sm
the direction of whether or not QA is "needed" or not, or whether or not they are up to doing their jobs correctly.
I'm not saying either of those things, but what I DID say was that all too often, both inhouse and at home, I've been having to deal with QA-ers who make changes where they should NOT be making them. I even had one take out an entire sentence that was CORRECT, and VERBATIM, and insert something that the doctor never even said, and which didn't belong with that patient's diagnosis.
That is SO unethical!
I have to say I am unsettled by this conversation. sm
I wouldn't dream of drinking while I am working. I don't believe that is a "perk" of being at home and like several have said, I don't care who you are, alcohol impairs you. I can't imagine saying anyone saying this is okay. And, much as Endiqua said, using the everyone does it scenario is not only wrong, it's immature. I hope we are more professional than that!
don't join in the conversation if you sm
don't want to but don't censor others from doing so!
But that wasn't conversation....
that was criticizing the original poster for "assuming" that others celebrate Easter. I don't think she assumed that at all; she was just asking what others were serving. I think she would assume that those who don't celebrate wouldn't answer because the question wouldn't apply to them.
I had a telephone conversation come through once -
It may have been a walkie - I am pretty sure I saw the guy drive down the street in front of me talking on something - it was very brief, I think probably when he was in very direct range. It was wierd!
But I'd rather listen to a side conversation than
erase and retype nearly every line. Three times the effort for 1/3 the pay when he does that. Back up. Change that. After it's already been typed.
Bizarre conversation on dictation
This obstetrician was talking to patient and her mother on a dictation this morning. The doctor and the patient's mother were trying to convince her to bring her dog into the office through the back door to have the doc do an ultrasound. He said, "I know where the uterus is, I'll just take a look to see what's going on in there". The patient had just given birth herself. It was so very strange. After about five minutes, he began to dictate. 
WOW - I just read your link to a conversation with -sm
AHDI, and I KF's answers to your questions are so vague, so filled with upper management doublespeak, that they basically say nothing at all. Except there is one thing she has constantly sidestepped answering, and that is - What is AHDI doing for UNITED STATES MT's. Her non-answer says it all: NOTHING.
You should send a copy of that conversation, and copies of other posts on this board, to our California Congress & Senate representatives.
There is SO MUCH anger on this board, and if we could just consolidate all of that, and direct it towards our elected officials, who might be able to do something about it legislation-wise, it might go a long way towards helping American MTs.
Thanks for your excellent post, and for taking the time to pull off part of KF's sheep-suit, so we can all see what's underneath.
This conversation was on the company board, but I think
about line counts and how we might be suspicious. Don't know, but checking your lines anytime and knowing exactly how they are calculated are apples and oranges. I for one would like to know exactly the formula, and I would like to know when it changes. If the calculation changes so should my original offer letter. That is IMHO.
good choice. mr. ed provides transportation and conversation.
but isn't he dead? 
Has anyone had a conversation with the people at Amherst about this situation. I am not sure where
to go after them to get any results. I would appreciate any recommendations you may have on this because it needs to be addressed.
Wrong - if you had gone to college you wouldn't be having this conversation.
Ever consider that maybe your lack of ambition is the problem and that your own set of choices have put you in a position you're not happy with? Of course not. It's always someone else's fault.
Listening to a cell phone conversation
My doc left his recorder on again. LOL
Had this exact same conversation here in 2005 - see message
Here is the original posting. I'm still doing MT but now on my terms. I don't make as much money as I did even 10 years ago but I get to pick and choose what I want to do. I still don't feel appreciated. And, once again, I blame the AAMT as well as the changes in business ethics that I see EVERYWHERE today. Let's not even get into the subject of the CEO's and their insane remuneration packages! Anyway, my only recommendation is to find something you love (MT or billing, or something else) and do it to the best of your ability and on YOUR OWN TERMS. That helps to mitigate the frustration, somewhat!
20 years as an MT - now I am on strike...sm
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Posted By: on strike on 2005-09-12
After 20+ years as an IC I have seen my salary go down, down, down! Not because my speed has decreased, no, it has in fact increased dramatically due to the availability of ShortHand programs. No, my salary has gone since the inception of AAMT and their "standards" and practices. The organization that was going to help MT's become more respected has done the opposite. Yes, there were doctors out there who initially thought of me as a "typist" but I quickly showed them the difference between a typist and a "medical transcriptionist" (medical language specialist). Some of them were unwilling to pay for the difference, but most were pleased to pay a bit more for someone who knew when he was making a mistake and was willing to call and get it right. Today, however, the large MT companies have driven the IC out of business. They offer 4-hour turn around at ridiculously low rates. Many of these companies outsource to India, Pakistan, the Philippines, etc. Some of the outsourced work is done perfectly. Most is not. I am hearing this from office managers who cannot convince the business owners that it is "cheaper" to have the transcription done correctly the first time rather than have more time (money) spent doing QA.
Most of my work has been for large radiology clinics. Conglomerates that own upwards of 100 to 200 radiology clinics across the country own these clinics. The bottom line with management is the "bottom line". Their bonuses and hefty salaries are dependent on keeping costs down...therefore cheap transcription is a "must".
Finally, the reason for the steady decrease in salaries for MT's is the availability of cheap foreign and (yes!) American labor. MT's in this country are becoming more desperate and accepting the lower line rates. Yes, of course you need to in order to pay for food, etc. However, if ever there was a time for us to organize a "strike" this is the time. It will never happen, however, because we are too busy just getting by. And where has the AAMT been during this time (in particular the last ten years when salaries have been eroding the fastest)? They have been telling us the "proper" way to do transcription. In the "good old days" if we did not transcribe correctly we were fired. If we used poor grammar, we were fired. That simple! Meanwhile this group (AAMT) purporting to be working to benefit MT's has instead been working to benefit themselves. They benefit themselves by touting their CE courses and the need for us all to become CMT's, that we can only do through their courses and their tests. None of which are free.
No, I am not an AAMT hater. I hate the hypocrisy of the AAMT. I hate the fact that experience counts for naught in this field. I hate the fact that the moment corporate America realized that medical transcription was an income producing product mostly male executives realized that they could take over with large companies, offer work at a much lower price than an individual could, and force the medical Transcriptionist to work at the prices they foist on us. That is what I have seen over the past twenty years.
Don't bother flaming me for telling you what I have seen. Most of the flamers will be from large corporations or IC's who have accepted their fate. Yes, you are making good money typing thousands of lines a day at a few pennies each line. Yes, you pay your bills doing so. I am not putting you down for doing so. What I am saying is that over the past 20 years the medical transcription field has changed (been hijacked by large corporations) and as such the bottom line is "how cheap can we get the transcription done". Such is corporate America. Get it done cheap or someone else will get the contract.
So, what am I suggesting? I don't know for sure. Perhaps there is no answer for most transcriptionists other than to accept their fate. As for me, I am lucky enough to have an income so that I can go on "strike" until I find a job that pays me what I am worth. Or, until I go back to school to find another career! Which is the most likely course of action a lot of us will be taking no matter how much we love what we were doing.
If you have any useful insights I would love to hear them. Flamers will be ignored.
Conversation insinuating that RadGuy may be gay is NOT tolerated on this site.
Anyone who continues to post in this manner will have their posting ability immediately removed.
WHATEVER. I can't handle ignorant people, which means this conversation is over.
SEE YA!
My conversation with you is over. You sound worse than a pack of 6th grade girls.
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YOU, Busy MT'ing, are one of those that fail to reach mature conversation when you mockingly add
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Could this entire conversation BE any more high school? Grow up, you guys, honestly.
after being nasty, now you want to
know which office? I think not, to tell YOU.
Nasty, not me!!!
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It got nasty
Those posts got pretty nasty between a few people. I have strong convictions about a lot of things but I would not have come across as some do on this board. I often feel that when someone comes across like that it usually means that there has been a problem in that area -- he who does protest too much. But we all do have a right to our own opinions and I try to look at everyone's. I understand where having a glass of wine is not someone's cup of tea but because I do (and maybe not every one can keep it in moderation) does not mean I am unprofessional, irresponsible or not capable of doing my job. Would be glad to match years of experience, paychecks and longevity of accounts with any of you that called me unprofessional, irresponsible and uncapable of doing my job. Patti
who got nasty?
I certainly didn't, and nobody got nasty with me. In fact, it was one of the better heated discussions I've seen or been involved in. And I've been in the middle of some lulus!!! (but not here)
You want sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows ... turn on Lesley Gore. 
Don't let someone with a nasty
attitude ruin your self-esteem about what you have done with your life. Just consider the source. They sound bitter to me and try to make it everyone else's fault. Keep up your good work and ignore what someone who does not matter has to say. Just be thankful you do not work for her.
Truly, I did not mean to be nasty, but with the...sm
problem you reported with your resumes not being responded to, it wasn't clear if you were just more casual here. You could just as easily replied there wasn't anything wrong your grammar. Having worked in human resources before, I know most resumes/correspondence gets 15 seconds to 1 minute of time. I have personally blown a couple job opportunities because I set the wrong tone with my resume, e-mail, and cover letter (jobs I really, really wanted), and I was only trying help. I have certainly been at my wits end in this business, too, and feel for those MTs who feel stuck in a job they're not happy with.
Not only are you a nasty sm
BEACH, but you have sand in your nether regions! I have never seen anyone on this board with more nasty bones in their body then you have.
The reason you aren't making any money is because YOU ARE HANGING OUT HERE SPEWING YOUR BILE.
Nasty women
You know women should be supportive of each other. Let's face it, men aren't, like the lady said. I worked in offices where some of the women there were so nasty and catty and rude. Seems lots of them are on here too. Thank God for being able to work at home. I don't think anyone is looking for pity on this board, but for crying out loud, doesn't anybody have a warm heart anymore. There are lots of cold-hearted people on here talking, must be from the East Coast.
Oh, please! Nowhere was I nasty or rude.
Did I call her names or belittle her like a lot of you do on this board? No, I merely asked how she knew she was being trained wrong and stated what my experience has been. MTs need to be adaptable. That's the best thing a newbie can do is to learn to be flexible according to the rules of the accounts she's put on. Wouldn't you agree? Honestly, if you're that hypersensitive to think that I was nasty or rude, you need to toughen up. All I did was ask a question and state some facts. I wasn't judgmental or condescending at all, like many others I see here.
You are nasty!!!! You need to find a better
maybe, just maybe that would help your attitude. Otherwise, but out and stay off this board. You are not wanted.
My son just had it 2 weeks ago, very nasty.
He was so sick that he ended up sleeping on the bathroom floor (worse than a bad hangover) with vomiting and diarrhea. It lasted almost 24 hours and he was horribly weak for the next day as well.
NASTY EMAIL
just remember, the door of professionalism swings both ways!
nasty email
I worked for a lady who would send me nasty email in all CAPS and in BOLD. Finally I asked her if was her version of yelling at me and she said "no, I was in bold and caps and forgot to remove" Yah Right. She never did it to me again. I just thought How UNPROFFESIONAL! I don't work for her anymore and I am treated respectfully by my new employer.
If this is just a nasty rumor,
then some of the news stations on TV (notably CNN) are in big trouble, because they are reporting it as fact. They report that if you click on Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (and one other that I can't remember), you will be directed to other movies you might like, such as Planet of the Apes, etc., featuring black actors. This is all very derogatory and racially biased and Wal-Mart is falling all over itself apologizing, so it must have some basis in fact.
If this is just a nasty rumor,
then some of the news stations on TV (notably CNN) are in big trouble, because they are reporting it as fact. They report that if you click on Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (and one other that I can't remember), you will be directed to other movies you might like, such as Planet of the Apes, etc., featuring black actors. This is all very derogatory and racially biased and Wal-Mart is falling all over itself apologizing, so it must have some basis in fact.
Nasty QA comment?
Dear OldQA:
I am one of the recently laid off Heartland employees. I went to this message board for some job hunting and support in light of this situation, and I was completely baffled by some of the things I read. Here are 2 of many comments from your not-so-nasty colleagues as an example of what I‘m talking about:
(Posted by MsAnonnie Mouse)
First of all, I would like to say that I sympathsize wtih those that were laid off at Heartland, however, I believe that that there were probably indications that this was going to happen, I for one, remember seeing a LOT of job ads for Heartland and they suddenly stopped on the 2 major transcription job boards. For me, that was an indication that something was going down the tube.
I also do not agree wtih offshoring, but when I read the posts on this board, I see one theme over and over; that being laziness in general. I see posts where people gripe and complain about having to work weekends or nights or whatever and wanting to get paid decent money, but they want to only be able to work 8-5 Monday through Friday. I have been in this field for over 20 years and I believe that I have always pulled my fair share. I have seen it in the company that I work for now, and the work load goes up dramatically on the weekends, because NOBODY wants to work and as we all know, medical transcription, for the most part, is a profession that is 24/7.
Sadly to say, our society has become one, where we expect to have something for nothing. Meaning that we want the nice thinngs, but we don't have to break our necks for it. I hear of friends who are giving their kids brand-new to almost brand-new cars in high school. Heck, when I was growing up, if I wanted contacts, or a car, or clothes, I had to detassel corn or work in a fast food place to get the money to be able to have those things. I don't see that happening now, and in essence, that is why so many of our jobs have been offshored. Its not only a cheaper labor cost, but most of these people in general have a better work ethic.
My company takes pride in the fact that it doesn't offshore and it will be a cold day in a very warm place before they do.
My only advice to those that were laid off is to hang in there, send out the resumes and hopefully, you will be able to find a new company that will treat you like an employee and not a number.
Posted By: OP on 2006-05-10
In Reply to: Heartland Layoffs - MsAnonnie Mouse
Some people seem to be missing the point here -- I also do QA as well as medical transcription and I generally am working MANY hours a day and usually 6-7 days a week, because I know budget-wise what it takes for me to surviive.
As a QA person, I see a quality of work that is totally unacceptable and it is from American medical transcriptionists. I read about people saying they can do X number of lines in an hour, or that they type X number of words a minute and as a QA person, that is usually the persons report that has 10 or more blanks in it, because UNFORTUNATELY they are more concerned about production than they are quality.
I sometimes wonder how many medical transcriptionists go back and re-listen to a report they have typed and then are able to figure out what the doctors are saying?
I have worked both inhouse and from home and I really have to agree that if someone TRULY wants to get started in this field, then they should work onsite first to truly get a grasp at what medical transcription entails.
There ARE people who are medcal transcriptionists who DO work long and hard hours and ARE getting shafted by the companies they work for, but quite frankly, I am tired of the ones who have toddlers and small children at home and whine about how they can do this work and take care of their kids too -- just because you work at home, dosen't mean that your children can be underfoot all the time and it is also learning about priorities as well. If you were working on the outside, you would NOT be allowed to take a huge amount of time off for kid activities or family activities, so the MTSOs do have legitimate gripes when it comes to employees not working when they say they will or keeping to a schedule, and this is where I am coming full circle when I talk about a work ethiic -- it has slowly and steadily been disappearing over the years.
Real nice show of support huh? There is nothing more disgusting than using the subject of layoffs, or offshoring for that matter, as a platform to complain about your own problems and dissatisfaction with your job. Shame on them!
Dear Scribevibe: With that being said, you WILL come across nasty, condescending comments such as these (on this message board as well as when you're working). I have been doing this for years, and I still come across them, and they are OBNOXIOUS! You need to let their comments roll off your back or they'll drive you nuts. There are QAs out there who are helpful and even sometimes encouraging, but be prepared for ones who are not and IGNORE THEM (and their nitpicking). Don't let them "snark" you :)
Oh I think she's VERY nasty, but I LOVE her! lol
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Hm, been my experience that QA's not usually nasty
Only time I've ever used the exclamation point when communicating with an MT is when they have thoroughly ticked me off by completely ignoring my previous requests....
Nasty and rude. You can
direct people to the infor they need in a much more appropriate and decent manner!
Don't mean to sound nasty but this is a
are trying to get out.
not nasty -- testy, because....
 if you had all the best accounts in your livelihood taken away and were left with the dregs, you'd be a little annoyed at anyone who had benefited from that who then had the audacity to try to then insinuate themselves into this one precious place that is supposed to be just for us. I know, run-on sentence.
Read all you like, but don't post.
not trying to be nasty, just stating sm
a fact. Too many MTs out there without sufficent education and they are suppose to mess around until they "realize" that they don't have the education?
I have seen schools make promises to these people that they can't keep. I have warned people not to put their money into these schools and most don't listen. Have actually had people call after they "finish" school and tell me that they cannot or could not transcribe the tapes given to them on a final examination.
Sure wish folks would listen. This is not a career for folks to walk into hoping to be a "fast learner." I wonder if your doctor is a "fast learner?" This kind of attitude has brought this profession down to nothing more than a typist.
You are a very angry nasty person.
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How can you people be so cruel and nasty?
She is obviously trying to do the best for her son, and at this point is trying to figure out what it is. I'm sure she would discuss this option with the doctor or counselor before she made a decision. Cruel and selfish, right. Look in the mirror.
Like we really needed to hear that. How nasty.
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Don't let some nasty, catty old women get you down. sm
Remember, there's a reason some of these folks are working at home, and it's not because they had a choice. They simply can't interact well with people. I imagine them as fat, older women in lots of debt and living in dirty homes, probably chain smoking at their computers while they fire off posts that reflect the ugliness and unhappiness inside of them. It's sad, really.
I did not read all of below but it did not seem to me that anyone got nasty or self-righteous- sm
I think you were given sound advice below. I am sure it is just hard to hear the harsh truth of the world. It is hard enough to get a job when you are new, but I am sure most employers don't want to deal with felons, regardless of the crime committed. Granted if it had anything to do with trust, i.e. theft, larcency, B&E, etc. from their point of view they probably don't want to worry about the confidentiality of their client's patients. I am sure you are in a touchy position. I have not applied to anyone in a while and do not recall the terms of the felony questions usually on an application. I am sure it is tempting to say "no" in an effort to get a job, which may backfire of you if you ever attempt that. I think it is admirable that you are being honest about it. Keep trying is all I can say, took me 2 months to find the first job, then 2 more landed in my lap (after applying as a newbie). A small local MTSO would probably be your best bet. Good luck.
what happened to the posts...did they get nasty?
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agree; the only nasty posts are from those who do not
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I will not post nasty messages
about ESL. I will not post nasty mesages about ESLs. I will not post nasty messages about ESL.
Okay, done. I did not post a nasty message about ESLs.
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