I have a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic.
Posted By: see message on 2008-07-16
In Reply to: Keyboard - lolabug
I got it on sale at Staples for around $60. When I used to work in a hospital, I had one for home and bought one to use at the hospital. They are not all that expensive and well worth it.
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MIcrosoft Natural Ergonomic
Best one I ever had. It has all the programmable shortcut buttons at the top for programs and/or webpages and is extremely comfortable. I used to have problems with my hands hurting a lot after a full day of working and now it is gone. It took about a week for me to get used to the feel of the split board, but now I can't stand using a regular one. I even take this one when I travel to my in-laws.
I also use Microsoft Natural Ergonomic and ...
just purchased a store-return new backup keyboard through Amazon for around $25 dollars ..
New, at my local CompUSA they were close to $60 regularly and went down to around $40 on special ... that store closed and I'm not sure where I would buy one now (most places do not carry them) ...the time and angst spent replacing a keyboard in a hurry is REAL and well worth preparing for (also keyboards keep getting redesigned which is really annoying when you're typing all day and have to switch in a hurry -- so it's great to have an "old model" on standby -- I last had to replace my keyboard when I popped off a key that was sticking and it went flying and I have NEVER found it ... it was an N)
I've found this particular model to be comfy and durable --- I didn't think I would like it and I really do -- it's quiet and has good key play.
My next purchase is going to be QuickLook Drug book on DISK since it can do wildcard searches of partial lookup -- my old web site for that "changed" and is not helpful and there are SO many bad Google entries.
Anything that makes you more comfortable with less fighting your desk also helps --- a decent chair and glare protection, a foot rest .
and SAMPLES when I start a new account I save almost every report I type, even if they are full of blanks -- which I fill in when I review my QA -- invaluable for saving time figuring out H&P mumbles and particularly op note
I use RED NOTEBOOK from Horus development (link below) ... I am not aware of anything comparable ... it's searchable. You can, for instance, upload a hospital medical staff roster if saved in TXT, edit and print out lists, just fabulous for new accounts with new terms / medications/ names for things.
Good luck.
Anyone use the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000
keyboard? Lately my wrists have been hurting and I've been having to take too many breaks. Of course, can't afford to do that. I was hoping if someone has the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 keyboard they could give advice on whether they think it helps their wrists as compared to a regular keyboard.
I can't afford to buy it if it doesn't work YET I can't afford the loss in production from this wrist pain. Funny, it's always been my ankles that got sore, now it's my wrists instead.
They do have the keyboard above on sale at Best Buy right now for only $50, but even that is too much IF it doesn't help with the wrist pain.
IAny advice would be much appreciated.... Thanks So Much 
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000
is the keyboard I use, and I like it. I don't have a problem with the shift keys, but now that you mention it, I usually only use the one on the left side. I never noticed that, wow. Using the right one would probably help me out. I like my keyboard because the keys are smooth to press, it is raised in the middle, and it has a bunch of cool features like a zoom bar, favorites keys, and other helpful shortcut keys. 
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000
Has anyone had a chance to try this new keyboard out yet?
I saw it at Best Buy yesterday and had a chance to give it a little hands-on feel. Very interesting. Started a little research and the reviews seem to be fairly positive (7/10 to 8/10).
But, I'm more trustworthy of feedback from people like MTs who really give keyboards a good "workout" on a daily basis.
Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000
I have a brand new one still in the box that I'll sell for a fraction of the retail cost. Just email me at rinny1987@yahoo.com.
MS Ergonomic Natural 4000...
I admit, it took me a few days to get used to where the keys are, but I bought it for my wrists. Two things: My wrists have quit burning and the keys are very soft touch. I love it. I got mine at an office store for 59 dollars. I guess not cheap, but it was worth it for me since I plan to type until my little fingers won't work anymore. 
Microsoft Natural 4000
I tried the new Microsoft Natural ergo and actually perform my old (Elite) model. I do 400 lph and did not feel that the Microsoft Natural 400 felt nearly fast enough on the demo.
Microsoft Natural is too stiff for me. sm
I have heard good things about Goldtouch, but never used one. I am impressed with the speed I am getting on the Maxim and comfort of the keyboard. I had problems with finger fatigue, and that is now alleviated. The layout is standard except the home, end, page up, etc. so the keyboard would be smaller. I was used to it by the end of the first day. I paid $119 for mine at Fentek.
Microsoft 4000 ergonomic one...
Wonderful keyboard! I give it a 9/10.
Microsoft 4400 Ergonomic- sm-
I like it alot because of the raised wrist rest (removable), which helps with wrist pain after typing 10 to 12 hours a day. It has been a blessing to me, but getting used to the split keyboard took about a week. Check it out.
Try Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard
Hi, try Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000. I don't know about the wireless ergo keyboard but I do know they are expensive than the wired ones. You could contact your local Microsoft hardware dealer.
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite
My Elite died on me (don't try to take them apart for cleaning). I tried the 4000 and hated it. I bought it in a pinch because stores don't sell the Elite anymore. You really had the hit the space bar pretty hard and I just did not care for the touch of it. I returned it. I finally found a store that sold the Elite and bought 2 of them, otherwise you have to buy them online.
microsoft Natural keyboard 4000
It is an ergo keyboard... Really you would love it if you would give it a try. It definately takes a little to get used to, but now I wouldn't be without it....And this new model is FANTASTIC! It has a built in reverse angle to avoid wrist pain, built in wrist pad, quiet keys that require light touch. I don't use other features like the built in hot buttons, but they are there also. All around great keyboard for about 50.00.
Not removable on the Microsoft Natural Multimedia, not sure about others. nm
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Help with new Microsoft 4000 natural keyboard
Any tips on how to get used to this keyboard? i think it might relieve my neck pain but I keep hitting the wrong keys. it took me a long time just to type this message!
Thanks,
I use the Microsoft Natural Multimedia keyboard
I LOVE IT 
Microsoft Natural 4000 Ergnomic Keyboard
I have been using this keyboard for two years now and I will be needing a new one in the next week or two (the cord is getting frayed). I'm interested in one of the Microsoft wireless keyboards, but I'm concerned that the touch won't be as light as it is with the 4000. Does anybody have any experience with these wireless keyboards and is there one that somebody would recommend?
I just bought a Microsoft Natural Ergo 4000 from Officemax
for about $60 (not exactly cheap).
I can't attest to how long this one is going to last, but I do really like it. However, when I bought it, I was given an option of buying a 2-year extended warranty for like an additional $12. They said they would replace the keyboard for any reason in that time period. I declined, but maybe not a bad investment for people like us who can go through keyboards.
Microsoft ergonomic 4000 with enhanced curve. Love it!
The keys are very soft to touch, keys are easy to hit and the wrist pad is a very comfortable soft, leather-like material. It only has a USB plug-in but you can get an adapter. I paid $60.00 for it at OfficeMax. It was well worth it. I will never use another keyboard!
natural estrogen
Estroven, mexican yam (in the supplement section of WalMart and health food stores), Black Cohost (also in supplement section), soy products. There are also estrogen creams, over-the-counter, that you apply topically.
natural disaster
well, if Mt. Rainier even erupts or sends a lahar through the Puyallup Valley, thousands of people will be buried alive in 30 feet of 300 mile per mud and rocks the size of dump trucks. But unlike New Orleans, we have drills, and evacuate routes already set up. Incompetent planning is all it is.
the natural order in the would does not
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Try using a more natural makeup
I hear mineral-based makeup is the best for your skin as it contains no harsh chemicals or ingredients. its also supposed to be great for sensitive skin and/or acne-proned skin.
I used Mineralles by Shaklee & i love it!! It doesnt even compare to my old makeup (I used Lancome before)
Its more expensive than drug-store brands but less expensive (or the same) to the department store brands.
I like the MS natural multimedia
with its 'split' (but intact) keyboard, and esp like the down-slope of the wrist rest and the slight hump in the middle, which lends to a more natural position of the arms. Plus you can easily 'program'many keys to either do different functions or take you directly to certain websites. Cost is also very reasonable, comparatively.
Dealsonic has the MS natural
Not sure if it's the multimedia or not but it's only around $16. I had the 4000 and took it back to Circuit City -- some of the letter keys didn't always work.
no such thing as all natural...
everything that is natural is made of chemicals...combinations of hydrogen and carbon. Everything. Including carrots, tomatoes, meat, spaghetti-o's, synthetic insulin, your bones and blood...all chemicals.
It's just a natural thang....
 
Been using a Natural for 6 yrs and LOVE it!
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natural keyboard
It will take you a couple of days to get used to but then you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. Good for the wrists and lets your arms and hands sit more naturally. I'm all thumbs when it comes to regular keyboards now.
Natural disasters everywhere
The upheavals in regular routines would cause changes in work flow. There would be more emergency room and less clinic. More orthopaedic and possibly more Infectious Disease, but less preventive maintenance and well care checkups.
you don't want ergonomic, but
if you would take the time to adjust, the Kinesis Classic is great. AND you can reprogram keys. just the difference in location of keys and key-depth has already helped my CTS a lot!
natural products helped me - sm
I feel for you. Different story, (though same in that tubes tied, PMS-crazy 10 out of 30 day each month, teens) but maybe this might help you. I could not opt for hormone tx (diabetic)after hysterectomy (for other changes in cycle; light, then very heavy, then not there) and opted for surgery when fibroids were found.)Immediate surgical menopause resulted in symptoms even though before this my FSH and estradiol levels came back I was not peri.
Researched websites and found natural progesterone cream (bought at local health store)helped me a lot, but wound up on Lexapro (calming) too. Taken together, this was the optimum fix for me.
does anyone know any natural way to replace estrogen?
Wow. I want one. I have an older Natural keyboard that
I've been using for years. All the letters are worn off, and I use a piece of wood to prop it up into the natural typing position. I never did understand why keyboards propped up in reverse to how your hands are supposed to be positioned. Since using my little block of wood to prop my keyboard up, my wrist problems are gone.
I think there is only one better, Karen Carpenter, a natural.
Or natural misspelling? What was this SUPPOSED to say?
See natural stupidity post, below.
I love my MS Natural 4000 sm
The 4000 has a much lighter action than previous models. They make a standard keyboard with the same action. I go to the office supply store, try them out, and then buy them on e-bay for much less than at the store. Hope this helps.
Go to the store, get valerian. It is a natural way
to soothe. You may also try St. John's wort. Valerian is fast acting, St. John's takes 2 weeks to kick in. Only problem with valerian, is since it is made with flowers, it has a strong odor. But it will help.
Try to dissociate yourself from your notes. Pay attention to the words and the grammar and edit as you go along instead of paying attention to the stories. As with anything, cognitive therapy helps, but if you go to the library, there are plenty of books on this subject. If you get really anxious, you can take a benadryl now and then, however, this may be sedating, and you can do that if you are finished work for your full shift or until you come back later, so you can rest.
I suggest doing all of these things before addressing such a personal issue with your employer. As a professional, you can solve these things through training your mind, and through healthy remedies. If nothing else, you can always visit a walk-in clinic which is about 70.00 and they can prescribe something but the healthy remedies are just as good and not addictive, IMO. All the best to you! PS: Keep your chin up and thinking positive. You are not the people in the notes. You are you.
ergonomic keyboards
Not only is it impossible to use, the salesperson was rude and difficult when I called for return instructions. Also, there was a money back guarantee on the website, but in small print "if refurbished, we cannot refund your money." And guess what, you don't know its refurbished until it arrives on your doorstep!! Needless to say, 350 bucks flushed down the toilet.
I recently ordered the "ergoflex" keyboard, and was wondering if anyone has tried this? It lets you rest each arm as far away as possible, which is what I need. I've been typing on two keyboards, one for the left, one for the right, and it just takes up too much space. I'm hoping this will help. To the poster below about keyboard testimonials, these could probably be secured to the end of your arm rests, and also on the web site they have separate arm rests that look real comfy you can adjust to your table top.
http://www.ergonomicresource.com/ergoflex.html
Ergonomic question
I have been workign as an MT for only a couple of months now, but I already am having pain in my arm. It started being sore yesterday and continues today. Is there anything I can do to help ease this discomfort and should I invest in an ergonomic keyboard. Thanks!
Ergonomic Keyboard
YES, YES, YES!!!
I purchased a refurbished SafeType keyboard because I started having tingling, numb wrists and hands and the difference.....WOW!! I told every MT I knew about the difference they make.....WHAT A GREAT INVESTMENT THAT WAS!!
I could tell the FIRST day of using it (after I got used to it) that my pain and tingling was GONE!! The keys are sideways and I thought it would take me forever to get used to it, but it didn't! I thought it was worth a try as a last resort in "ergonomic keyboards." I was using a split keyboard and I got used to the SafeType faster than I got used to the split keyboard when I started using it. I'm actually faster with the SafeType. They retail for around $300, but they sell refurbished ones for around half that. IT TRULY WAS THE BEST INVESTMENT I EVER MADE FOR TRANSCRIPTION!! If you haven't heard of them, check them out.... www.safetype.com, I think. THE MOUSE is GREAT, too! It's only around $80 new, but I lucked into getting a demo for about half that too!
GOOD LUCK!!
ergonomic advice
Anyone know of good websites or where to get advice about setting up your home office ergonomically correct. Sometimes I think I have my chair set at the right height, or everything just so, and try to stretch every once in a while, but I still end up stiff and I think maybe I could do better with it. Thanks all.
ergonomic questions
The pain was in the lower part my arm. It has subsided over the last couple of days. I TRULY appreciate all these suggestions. Along with this pain, I have also had the tingling in my wrists on occasion. I absolutely love my new job but I know my health has to come first. I will check out all your suggestions. Thanks!
Ergonomic keyboard!
Thanks for the greate website and the prices are so much better than I have seen. Have heard it takes a couple of weeks to get used the the Ergonomic keyboard, is this true? Is it worth buying, does it make a big difference? I want to buy one but want to make sure it will be worth it. Thanks!
Ergonomic keyboard!
Thanks,will get it. Do you recommend a certain one?
Ergonomic keyboard!
Wow, can give it a couple of days. Thanks!
Ergonomic 4000
I bought one this weekend, as a matter of fact. I wasn't a fan of the so-called multimedia/internet keyboards before, but I have to say I do like these shortcut button thingies. Circuit City has a web-only sale on it and it qualifies for free shipping I believe.
ergonomic keyboard
These are 49.99 minus 10.00 rebate at www.compusa
Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000, USB
Ergonomic Keyboard
I have always used a split keyboard, however, just purchased the Microsoft 4000 and have found it a little difficult to adjust to. The keys and space bar are hard to press and I am running words together because I think they space but don't. Other than that I love the split style and could never use a regular keyboard again.
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