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I get paid less to edit than to MT. I shouldnt

Posted By: have to do MT research. How will MT learn? on 2008-01-02
In Reply to: So: it's ok for MTs to lose time/$ on researching, - but not for QAs to fill them in?

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** RANT!! ** I hate QA people! - Those who can, transcribe. Those who CAN'T, edi
- Outsmart them - Cindy M
- Turn down - Miss understood
- to "rant on hating QA" - just an MT
- Hey Einstein, you'd be out of a job with your plan. SM - what??
  - There must have been 2 fair to excellent MTs.. - Weren't you an MT once?
    - What will haappen when Dr says U made - mistake? Would love to see your attitude then.
    - Get your own accts. When approach Dr with - your attitude, wont have own acct for long. nm
    - If you work for MTSO, you usually dont have - access to the doctor. Get your own accts,please
  - I rather doubt that, but if that's what you - want to make yourself believe,
- Define "whining" - me
  - They whine when I send them a blank, and tell me - I should've 'just sent it through'.
- I, as well as many others here, understand your ... - sm
  - Here's the truth--SM - QA person
    - No one said you have to train them. You just have to grow up and be above the bullstuff. - A good QA
    - The above post proves my point. _sm_ - MTs who can, transcribe; those who CAN'T edit.
      - You CAN research what you "cant hear."Google - sentence with blank &will often fill in blank. nm
        You said it - Cindy M
        Do it all the time, honeybunch. - sheesh
        "You can't look something up if you can't even - tell for sure what the word SOUNDS like.)"
        You BET you can! sm - Lyndia
        That's exactly how I - wvm
        I do all that stuff too. But sometimes you just don't - get results.
        Did you not read post about "you CAN - research.." You basically repeated that post.
        Huh? -nm - missed your point
        This is sentence I responded to about googling - sentece with blank to find what blank is. nm
    - Here's more truth for YOU ... - sm
- Grain of salt - Tired&CrankyMT
  - Wait'll you've been in it for THREE decades, - THEN tell us ya still luv your QAers.
    - At 3 decades in, I'd more than likely - Tired&CrankyMT
      - I appreciate your post - Cindy M
      - I'm over the 3rd decade and counting - Thinking
        Well over third decade and loving it - Thinking�again
    - you sound more than ready for retirement! - ;)
      - I've been wishing I could retire since I was still - in high school! ha ha
  - Although I understand the basic premise of your post ... - sm
    - I am on production too s/m - production QA
      - Nah, I'll bet most of you get paid - PER CORRECTION, the root of the problem.
        U make no sense. If paid per correction, why - would we complain about multimistake jobs?
        Nope. We get paid production too. Unfortunately, hourly QA is out the door. - A good QA
        Learn what you speak of. Paid line count - here, just like MT. nm
        So: it's ok for MTs to lose time/$ on researching, - but not for QAs to fill them in?
        I get paid less to edit than to MT. I shouldnt - have to do MT research. How will MT learn?
        If we've researched our brains out, and STILL - can't find the answer, if QA -sm
        Dont mean this situation. Mean repeat blanks, - correcting same mistakes over & over. nm
        THAT is when constructive feedback helps, not being a jerk about it. - A good QA
        Yeah, I'll bet some MTs with bad QAs reach the - point where they just tune them out,
        Could be...but if the lines of communicaton are not blurred with a negative QA, then you can have a - A good QA
        Of course. Unfortunately a good QA - is the exception, not the rule.
        I think you should stop now. You s/m - production QA
        Couldn't be anything NEAR how a 20-blank report - would hold up OUR production!
        If you dont try to fill in blank or research, dont - expect it holds you up at all. nm
        I don't recall saying I 'don't research' blanks. - In fact, the time we take to research
- I edited MT with mistakes in template,told bout - them but she never bothered to fix them. nm
- I'm tired of MTs who cannot SM - QA person
  - 20 or 30 blanks in a report is a NEWBIE. - That's a whole different thing.
  - This type of arrogance and presumption ... - sm
    - I have been on both sides and recently sm - Lyndia
      - EXACTLY! Constructive input is always welcome; - constant little put-downs are NOT.
    - I agree with this post. - I think that QA are not necessarily more skilled.
      - Right on. Here's another thing that really _sm_ - Those who can, transcribe, and who CAN'T, edit
        I feel your pain, believe me... - I think you have every right to question these
  - Blanks in a report - I feel better now
    - I think sometimes it's the only way to get - one of the higher-ups to do -sm
  - I agree. When hear/research blank, it is SOOO - obvious they didnt even try. nm
- They do seem to have a lot of rules. - I think their heads get a little swollen.
  - That's exactly what happens ... - sm
    - Not only that, but lots of MTs get a little - 'black mark' on their reviews
- I'm sorry that you have crappy QA. I wish I had you to edit. sm - A good QA
  - I must say that you do indeed sound like you're one of the 'good guys'... - sm
    - Aw, thanks. I've been in the biz forEVER and in order to learn, you HAVE to be priased... - A good QA
      - People (& animals, too) will work harder to get - praised than they will to avoid a beating.
  - Mentors? - Curious
    - Definition here - Miss understood
    - Where I work it's the 'nice' name they give the - QA's. Sorta like 'sanitation engineers'.
    - At 1 co. was told I had mentor, never heard - from her, even when ?s. I didnt stay there long.

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who are you asking lol shouldnt u ask who u work for
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For QA consulting I'm paid per hour; QA instructing (college) paid salary, QA editing paid per li
I am an IC and work for two different MTSOs as well as instruct at a business college.

if mt paid 9, editor paid 4 or 5...how can company charge 14 and make it..sm

I know the going rate in our area is 14 cents per line. As MTs most companies here pay us 8 or 9 cents a line. Now add in the Editor rate at 4 or 5 per line..you are paying OUT more than you can charge a line. How would companies stay in biz?

Unless all work is sent by the company overseas at pennies per line, this would not pay for a company.

just curious how this works out

But how much are the US EDs gonna be paid? Typically this work is paid at 2-3 cpl. nm
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You don't get paid an hourly rate you get paid by line - sm
so because of how you are paid (not an hourly rate) you don't get OT, especially if you are an IC.

I would move on. I think it is so unfair not to be paid for spaces! I think we should get paid

per keystroke, but that'll never happen. I just think that these national companies are going to keep finding ways to cheat us. I found a job working for a hospital as an employee, paid hourly plus incentive, and they let us expand everything! Somebody's gonna have to kill me to make me give up this job. I will never go back to the national's again.

I feel for you though. I know that for us MTs those good jobs are few and far between and some have little choice but to work for the nationals. I just happened to luck into the job I have now. I just applied at the right time.

Good luck to you whatever you decide.

If those companies paid a fair wage, and paid more
all came out equal, people wouldn't feel the need to try to make up the deficit by going for the good stuff. I actually prefer the harder, juicier reports. But I can't make a living doing only that, because the pay is not commensurate with the difficulty. So even though I prefer not to, sometimes I have to pick up some of the easier, more boring 'line-o-matic' reports just to make ends meet. Tell your MTSO to make it work their while, and MTs will stop taking all the easy work away that you obviously would prefer to keep for yourself.

You wont show UE being paid because it is employer paid -
the employee will never have to pay this.

That's why we edit it. nm
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they should edit their own.
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Not only do I edit everything I read........sm

My husband says I "type" in my sleep !! Jeezz.... like 8 hours a day isn't bad enough!

Don't know the average, but I get 13 cpl to edit VR. nm
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Mine really is 2 - because I EDIT!
:)

EDIT? Since when did we have the education
that the physician does and where do you draw the line??

Edit Dictionary
Click on Tools, Options, Spelling & Grammar. On the Custom Dictionary window, select CUSTOM.DIC then click Dictionaries (to the right). When Custom Dictionary window opens, click Edit. Find the word you added and delete it. Save the file.

Depends on if doing 100% edit or not.
if you have to listen 100% and you have bad MTs, then it will be hard to get.

I'm sorry that you have crappy QA. I wish I had you to edit. sm

A good QA will not do that. Where are you working that you have such bad QA personnel? I'm not wanting to go to that company, lol.

Hope it gets better and you get helpful mentors.

Can expanders help if you mostly edit
reports rather than transcribe? That is what I do the most of.

You may be able to edit faster than
transcribe, but you are still doing twice the amount of lines for the same pay. After some time, the VR will start to recognize more terms and require less input. At that time, you may not be needed at all on those accounts, or you will be asked to accept less money. Time will tell!

Who better to edit reports

than a doctor? It's a nice thought and I'd love to have a doctor as my QA person! Unfortunately, editors aren't paid very well. Most make less than $20 per hour. The whole medical transcription industry has taken a major hit in pay thanks to off-shoring and AHDI (aka AAMT - which was supposed to be pro-MT, but instead is pro-greedy business owner). Also, voice recognition has cut our pay. Sometimes it even takes longer to edit a poorly worded voice file, but we are paid 3-4 cents per line.

If we can fight the off-shoring of all confidential patient information/medical records and cuts in pay for VR, the pay might eventually return - but I doubt it.

Excuse me but isn't your job to edit reports?
What would you rather spend your day doing???? If you are an editor I would think editing would be your job!

Couldn't think of anything intelligent to say, so you edit?
What a dimwit!

Edit Script, my first time doing VR

What is the average line count some of you get with VR??? Any suggestions this is my first job without straight typing?

I'm well aware we edit..but someone on here stated

How the heck do you edit a typo??

Question for folks who QA/Edit
I'm an IC QA person for a company who uses Editscript. I spend precious time writing down job# and calculating the number of lines for each report. Is this system not capable of tracking the number of reports I edit or the number of lines?

Seems like the employer would prefer a software that tracks this info so they can ensure that the IC's are billing accurately. Any opinions on this?

I, too, edit Indian files ; they are getting better! sm
While sometimes there is something funky, I have to say that they are getting better and better all the time. When they first started on the account, yeah, they were bad; however, it has only been about 4 to 5 months and have improved 10 fold.

QA persons edit. If it is 100% listen, that
depends on the MT and on the account. Usually phys ther reports are lengthy (and boring), but not hard, but you do have to know the terms. I do not do editing by the line. I would say 500 lph is upward thinking. I know years ago when I edited by the line (then being paid 6 cpl), I can say absolutely that I never earned more than $12 an hour (that was years and years ago). I had Indian MTs though and the worst of the worst ESL dictators but I swore then, never again.

Line pay is unfair to QA/editors but many companies try to squeeze the blood from a turnip. There is much to do in QA.

BTW, you put NM on your post making me think there was nothing in it

I think it takes longer to edit VR.
When you type, you start with a blank page. Excellent and taught that way. Editing can cause the eyes to get lazy - medical words tend to start looking like medical words. I think it takes more of an eye to find errors. I have done VR and did not like using hot keys. I guess I'm from the old school.

Im sure you are a peach to edit but I don't train, sorry
Im sure you are a peach

Independents who must edit their own work
I spent a few minutes reading the thread re QA complaints that MTs do not adequately edit/proof their work. As an independent contractor with my own clients I must proof my own reports and be responsible for my own product. The buck stops here.

I worked for a national once for a grand total of 3 months. It was not to my liking at all. First of all,let me say this, my clients have never heard of BOS. I have been an independent for 11 years and not one of them knows anyone by the name of BOS. I prefer to use the Oxford grammar site if I have any questions re grammar, punctuation, etc. Also, I ask my clients how they want their reports to be punctuated and edited. The client is the ALWAYS right, regardless of BOS. I will suggest certain punctuation and grammar, but if they insist on having it a certain, well so be it. They are paying me to transcribe their reports the way they want them done.

My 3 month experience with the national and their red/yellow highlighting happy, BOS addicted QA department, had me running for the hills and back to my own clients, which of course was much more profitable. I am quite computer literate, can navigate the internet, Google and even read a reference book.

In my opinion, if QA could find a way that was a little less like a dissaproving school teacher and more like a mentor, then perhaps the MT's would be more appreciative and welcome any assistance offered.

Yes - go to Tools, Options, then Edit tab
On the column on the right side, unclick "when selecting, automatically select entire word."

Does anyone edit Nuance Dragon

I have a physician who would like me to transcribe from handwritten progress notes, but I am wondering if I should invest in a VR program to make this easier on me. I am wondering if anyone uses this software as an MT? All opinions are welcome including through e-mail!

what is good hourly for edit/MT
got offered $13-15 an hour - part time, no benes, driving 50 minutes round trip, to do editing after dictations are sent to outside MTSO, occasional MT stat reports, personal reports, etc. I thought that was kind of low (14 yrs experience). Confirm or re-educate me please.

I would like to edit Indian work
what companies hire you to edit work from India? I have never been without work, but would be interested in doing some of this editing. If you know of companies, please post them. thanks

Client wants to start VR..Wants me to edit...sm

Ok, whew, I've researched until I'm blue on this one. Learning a lot here.

I have a question for you all. I have a potential client who wants to start recording his dictation with Dragon Naturally Speaking and then have me do the editing.

I'm just not getting this. Is there a MTSO that provides both VR and file transfer where I can edit? Is there an obvious answer to this, and I'm just so new to this field I'm not seenig it? How would I get both the word document and voice file to me so that I can edit it remotely?

Any numbers to call or pointers would be great!

I edit to make it 100% accurate....

You want lineage as well as speed.....I would do Hemoglobin is 13, hematocrit is 45, and platelets are 200,000 (whatever is in the CBC). I do the same for the chemical profile. Sodium is 135, potassium is 4.2, chloride is ...etc....

but they have to say *is* plus *and* for me to do that. I will never just insert extra words to inflate, but the word *is* - if they are dictating that to you...that is 2 more character spaces.....more is better for you.

Sometimes MDs want them separated. I have a couple of dictators what want individual sentences. Hemoglobin is 13. Hematocrit is 45. Platelets are 200,000. I usually give them what they want.....as long as it is 100% accurate.

Flyingfingers, when you add or edit an entry...SM
there's a box on the bottom left called "Tags." At the end of your entry where you don't want a space, open that and insert "No Space."

Hazard of the job to edit EVERYTHING we read.
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When US MTs refuse to edit their garbage
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What you "should" be paid and what you "are" paid

sadly are two very different things. Good luck on demanding more..because someone else will just come along and take it for what they offer and they know it.

Could you edit? My local employer just hired one.

She (my boss) couldn't handle the workload anymore so she advertised for editing help and found an experienced MT that could no longer type because of hand and wrist pain. It's worked out very well for both of them.

Good luck.

To everyone who feels as you do, just wait. When you have to edit themm, you will
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hmmm...perhaps you should edit your OWN posting about someone else's mistakes. nm
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Edit it, but give as close to verbatim as you can. nm
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I edit offshore, seen nothing makes me worried for
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Help w/ Edit Script & deleting MS Works

Sorry, I accidently posted this on the company board first. So please don't hate me.

I have done everything I can think of to get MS Works off my computer. It has been uninstalled, registries have been cleared and I ran a search to see if anything was left. Nothing left. But everytime I try to download EditScript it says it is still detecting it! Where could it be? Where is it finding it! I am so frustrated. If you have ANY idea of what to do please let me know!

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How do you edit the spell check in Meditech?
I accidentally added a word that is spelt incorrectly. How do I edit it?

Sorry, you said Edit Script - think same procedure applies though.
I think the same thing applies, go find where you downloaded it and click on the setup file. All programs will not self-install. If I remember correctly you have to find the install or setup file to start it manually. Sorry for the mix up in programs. Good Luck again.

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