I do taxes yearly, too.

• I worked as an IC many years ago - please see message.
  • Thanks to all of your responses. You've been a great help! - Thanks. (nm)
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  • I am glad somebody brought this up... - MI-MT
    • Make a tax payment every pay period online. - Try www.EFTPS.gov (sm)
      • Wow, what a great site....always mailed mine in but think - sm - Laura E.
    • The only tax I have to save as an SE is state tax. Other taxes are withheld by company - nm
  • I do taxes yearly, too. - ik
  • You MUST have 90% of your taxes paid by Dec 15 or they will penalize you. - 8 yr IC
    • 4th quarter taxes are due on January 15th - nm
    • December 15? - Jenny
  • I don't pay quarterly. - ICMT

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I have three 1099's here in front of me  -- one for 24K, one for 13K,  and one for 5K.    My W2 one is for 14 almost 15K.  I did work without 1099 in the amount of 3K.   The reason that my average goes down on the IRS forms is that after all my business deductions -- which includes my health insurance and 401K and Self employed retirement fund, mileage, supplies, etc. it goes down to less than 20K.   Believe me or not, but it is possible and I still have time to go on the boards.  I do not work 60 to 70 hours per week. 

Last year had small MTSO two part-time IC's working for me, worked as employee parttime in clinic.  Worked 50 hours per week.  Made -- myself not counting what my IC's brought in -- $62 K.  Starting June 1st, quit the employee position -- divorce attorney fees paid off, no IC's and keeping my 4 accounts,  will work 25 to 28 hours per week and make approximately 40K from these four accounts per year.  If I get stuck and need more will do overflow for another MTSO.   But too many headaches and time to take some time for myself.  Looking forward to it.

Patti

When I read the post regarding going from quarterly to yearly for IC taxes I got excited.  I used to pay yearly until my tax guy told me to pay quarterly which I reluctantly started doing.  All those years I paid yearly the IRS continued to send me quarterly tax payment vouchers which I ignored.  Ok, so my point is, I just got off the phone with the IRS, explained my situation, IC who works production, doesn't make the same month to month, year to year and she STILL says I HAVE to pay quarterly and at the end of the year send in form 2210 which I think she said is an annualization form which will enable you to escape any penalties for sending in less if you made more last year.  I do know if you have children there are circumstances that will enable you to file yearly rather than quarterly but I have no children at home so I didn't really pay attention to that. 

employee (not IC) for a national?

As an MTSO, don't think you are going to increase your accounts *yearly* (the word you used).....good luck if you're taking that route!!

I have my surgeons for a decade due to they pay very well and I have NEVER raised their rates because then they COULD choose to go elsewhere for less.....just my take.....

I also worked for nat'l services for years and they rarely raised their rates to their clients, as they, too, never wanted to lose any accts.

Good luck to you, whichever way you go!!

And on my local ER account, if you're a female and show up at the Emergency Room, they will automatically do a pregnancy test on you, even if you've had a hysterectomy.  I think it's a huge scam.  The kinds of tests that are becoming "routine" is getting just plain silly.  

so who exactly is getting cheated?  And just who are you talking about when you talk about whether it is "fair" or not.  I don't give a crap how much taxes my neighbor pays.  It's none of my business.  And if I found out they were paying less in taxes than me, I would ask them how they heck are they doing it so I can do it too!

I just want ask, is it necessary to get personal and insult?  You disagree with me, fine.  But I've been called a liar, a cheat, a no-ingetrity thief, my intelligence has been insulted, and I have had my parenting skills questioned.  That is a little over the top.  If you cannot debate an issue without resulting to personal attacks, then YOU are the stunted one!

It is a very good thing that some of you work at home, ALONE!  You are sorely lacking in people skills and diplomacy.  Let me guess, when you worked in the office you were one of those girls who didn't like to share her desk, griped if someone dropped a crumb on your desk, and kept track of everyone's breaks, lunches, and line counts just so you could tattle to the supervisor!  I've worked women like you, it was like working with kindergarteners.  That's why I came home to work.  Do us all a favor, looking in the mirror, count your wrinkles, and realize that this isn't high school anymore!

Do you think when you are working for someone else that "they pay your taxes?"  We all pay our own taxes except for the additional 7.5% of SS as an IC you pay.  And I will bet that as an IC/MTSO I pay a lot less taxes than you do and I make more than you do.  I cannot understand the mentality of people that say "you pay your own taxes."   Your employer just "holds your money and pays your taxes."  I am just responsible enough to put the money aside and pay mine but as a IC/MTSO with all my deductions I pay on 20 to 25% of my gross and I am able to put aside $700 to $1000 per month in my retirement which is totally deductable.  Your statement is totally incorrect.

I am never sure whether to classify myself as an IC or small  MTSO as I have my own accounts.  But where I see a lot of the problem is that the doctors are not making as much as they used to, due to insurance company reimbursement, etc.  They are trying to save every penny that they can just like we do.   I keep my line charges probably quite low according to many standards but I make a a very good living and I cannot see charging the doctors 15 to 18 cents per line when I make very decent money at 11 to 12 cpl -- gross lines.  I also get GREAT tax breaks and though I have to pay the other half of the SS self employment, I still bring home more of a dollar than working for someone else.   I have also found it hard to find anybody that will subcontract to me that is truly dedicated and will work hard. (I pay  8 to 9 cents per gross line  and I deliver tapes and do all the printing, pick ups and deliveries)  I know that kids get sick, there are football games, etc. but this is still a job and you gotta put it first sometimes.   It is hard to find anyone that will work the TAT of  20 to 24 hours by the time I get the tapes to them.   Then that leaves the burden on me.   So I mostly stick to my accounts that bring me in $50 to $55 per year (and this gives me my benefits) and have turned down accounts because I don't want the hassle of the IC's to me and they could be going overseas right now.  But I think that the insurance companies are behind this more than the docs.  When your MRI is interpreted over in India -- do you get a break on the interpretation -- no but the insurance company gets a break on what they pay out so who pockets it???? 

My thoughts and I am sure I will get a lot of disgreements but that is okay we are all entitled to our thoughts.  Oh yea for this amount of money I do work 28 to 32 to hours per week-- just quit an in house part-time job as they wanted me at least 24 hours now, started out at 10 to 12 but the docs found out that they could make more money paying me to transcribe their tapes than to type their own notes in the EMR's even with templates.  So we will be around for a while.   Oh yea if I would have kept on with both jobs would have easily made $65 K but working 50 hours a week was getting to be a bit much.  

Patti

One suggestion that I have for all of you that are questioning IC taxes is to look at your past tax refunds when you were an employee and see what percentage was withheld and do about the same.  Yes there is that extra 7.5 for SS but it  is also a deduction and you can look to find 7.5% of your pay as a deduction whether it be in the form of your own retirement fund, etc.  When I saw that I was paying so much to the IRS, I decided that if I could afford that I could start my own retirement fund and did it.  I now contribute close to $1000 to it per month.  So go online, get an old copy of Turbo Tax and run off the schedule C's and see what deductions can be taken for a small business and then see what you can do to save in taxes.   Look at your old tax returns and if you are married have your husband over withold if you can't do it yourself.  You are not paying that much more when you work for yourself you are just in charge of paying them yourself and not allowing someone else to hold it out from your check.   But look at old returns, plan, plan and plan.  When you look at your net vs your gross that will tell you what percentage your employer is holding out.   Either as an employee or an IC we all pay our "OWN" taxes but as an employee someone just does it for you.   Good  luck to all of you.   Patti

They are right in that the SS is 15.7% but remember when you were working for someone they held out 7.5% from your check.  Look back at your checks as an employee and see what was held out -- the only diference from being an IC is that you have to be responsible to pay the taxes and not have someone withold them for you.   Also look to see what deductions you have, take those off and you pay 15.whatever of that amount in SS.  It all depends on what you are making.   I start out with 45K+ and pay SS on about 15K.  But I have a retirement fund that I am contributing to and that takes a lot off.   But if you look at your paycheck as an employee you will see that 20 to 25% is being taken out of your check and you ARE paying those, someone just makes sure it is deducted.   If you husband is working as an employee (my ex-was) I had him hold out as single none and we always got something back.     Either way as an employee or an an IC -- we allpay it in the end.

I have recently taken a job as an IC, this is my first IC position and I was wondering if any of you wise folks could give me some advise regarding income taxes and such.

In the past I have always used TaxCut or TurboTax for my income taxes.  Is there a similar product for the 'self employed' that is as helpful?  Does anyone have any experience with any of these?

Also, MUST I pre-pay taxes and/or SSI quarterly?  I ALWAYS get all my taxes I pay in back in a refund and my income is essentially the same as my previous employment.

Thanks!

In 18 years of filing as an IC and owner, have never paid quarterly while married.  Always had my husband over withold and even some  years had to pay a little (under $500) but they have yet to question (knock on wood).   But my income and write-offs always stay about the same, every third year a new computer, then the next a printer, then some transcribers, etc.    The government does not care who or where the tax money comes from when filing as a joint return as long as they get it.   You are just combining your income as if each of you had a job but you are an I/C instead and don't have someone withholding from your earnings..   I always filed electronically and had my refund within a week.   Heck you can borrow the money to pay your taxes and they don't care as long as they get paid.  

Patti

Can anyone give me a list of things that I am able to deduct for working at home.  I am new at working at home and need some specifics.

Thank you!!