I did not see it as an Indian country cheating - I saw it as an American cheating - see message
Posted By: Amanda on 2008-02-08
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The way I understood that post was an American woman was getting the contract and then sending her work she was supposed to be doing to the Indian to do and then she was not paying them after they did her work for her. I did not see that it was an American masquerading as an Indian or an Indian masquerading for an American - I think the poster was somebody that had been hoenstly cheated of a paycheck that they had earned - I may not agree with our work going to India, but if they do manage to get the work, they should be paid for it after they have done it.
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Who is cheating who then?
Not cheating
I didn't mean to sound like I was trying to cheat and you didn't have to be so nasty. I did NOT "choose" to retire. My daughter and son-in-law are on their second tour in the resort community of Baghdad. His mother and I are sharing raising their three girls. My company sent all their work to India and I could not find work at the age of 63 that would pay what I had been making. Now that I am getting my social security, I am only allowed to make $900 a month and I think I will make too much as fast as I type. I am trying to work 20 hours because I want to and need to, but I am not going to throw my granddaughters away while their parents are fighting on their country's orders. I simply cannot work full time while they are over there. My son-in-law's mother cannot quit or retire. She is too young and is single. Don't be so hasty to judge people, lady. My question was how does it work with being an IC, not how to cheat!!! I read somewhere that you can have your husband's taxes withheld at a higher rate and I read it on THIS board. That is not CHEATING. I just wanted to know how it works. If all I can type is $900 a month, obviously I don't want it all going out to taxes and I was trying to see how that other lady did it. I'm glad your life is so perfect that you can sit back and accuse other people of cheating. Are YOUR kids over their facing death every day? I am TRYING to work!
Not cheating but ....
All that has been said on here is that you can have your husband overwhold to pay your tax liability as you file joint at the end of the year. But if you chose to retire and can now make only $900 a month but need more than that to tale care of your grandchildren, sorry but it is your problem. Have your daughter and son-in-law pay you. Not trying ro sound cold or callous but you chose to retire early to do this. I am sure that one of them could have gotten out if the other went. But the guidelines say such and it is such. No way around it unless you work under the table. Good luck.
And there are those who are cheating by
adding lots of extra spaces in the report where there should be blank lines. This adds to the line count and not visible unless formatting is turned on in Word.
There are many ways to cheat the system, but everyone is accountable for their own soul in the end.
Respect is what we should be striving for, and then and only then will our income increase. Doctors have no respect for us because we have sunk to the lowest of the lows.
I'M NOT CHEATING
EXCUSE ME FOR ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. I WAS NOT ASKING FOR THE ANSWERS. I FOUND THIS WEBSITE BECAUSE I WAS RESEARCHING AND SOMEONE CAME ONTO THIS WEBSITE WITH THE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS I HAD ON SOME THINGS OTHER THAN WHAT I NEED NOW AND SHE WAS GIVEN THE ANSWERS. I HAVE BEEN COMPLIMENTED ON MY RESEARCH SKILLS FROM THE INSTRUCTORS AND HAVE STRAIGHT As. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD SOMETHING RIGHT ON THE TAPE. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A PLACE TO GET SOME ADVICE. I RESENT THAT ANYONE SAYS I AM CHEATING. I WOULDN'T DO THAT. I CAN RESEARCH. THANKS FOR NOTHING.
Most companies consider that cheating and
the e-mail was very, very misleading by trying to make everyone think this person typed this much. What low class company this must be to resort to this out and out lie by management. Anyone that goes to work for them after reading this gets what they deserve.
check for cheating us
i agree with you completely -- the check is valid for 180 days, so i'm holding off until I get verification on how they got the figures that I'm satisfied with and what the lawyer's come up with. They're so underhanded that if that lawsuit does become a class action lawsuit their lawyers would probably come up with some kind of excuse saying that you're disqualified if you did cash that check indicating that you were okay with their figure.
Cheating = anything you're doing with
a member of the opposite sex that you are hiding from your spouse because you know he/she will be hurt by it and find it out of bounds.
That includes with a live person over the internet, on the phone, or in person.
If you don't want DH to know about it, you're cheating.
cheating/infidelity
It would be hard to forgive.... however, there are various reasons people cheat. Perhaps the couple have lost touch with each other, perhaps the other person withholds intimacy. In my estimation there is a reason people cheat. I think most women do because they are lacking or neglected in their marriage by the husband.. ie. he is never around, he ignores his wife like she isn't there, has priorities that are not healthy for the marriage. I am not saying all this stuff makes it right. But when a person's heart is not tended to, just plants are not taken care, they wither and die a little bit everyday, thus leaving a person empty, lonely, and afraid. When the heart is not taken care of, a little bit of life is gone from a person until the begin to feel cheated and neglected. A man can take care of things at home for his wife, do dishes, fix this, fix that, but in the end is that enough to keep you heart nurtured?
Is using a timer cheating?
I work on production only. I do have a set schedule, but the company I work for is fairly flexible. I have started using a timer where I set it for 60 minutes and stop it if I am interrupted, have to get up, etc. This gives me a more accurate picture of exactly how much I can type in an hour. Is this cheating not to just go by clock hour?
Not so. That's not cheating you in any fashion.
However the MTSO chooses to contract with dictation providers is up to them.
The MT's only concern is the contract between their own services and the MTSO.
If she wants to charge the client by the page and pay the MT by the character, that's fine.
MTs have GOT to get over this idea that they are the end-all/be-all ... that every decision should be made around them and include them. Not true.
The big companies are cheating themselves, as well.
The pay big money for all the equipment & software to speed up TAT, and then sell themselves cheaply to the hospitals by allowing themselves to be dragged into a price-war. Hiring offshore MTs just compounds the problem. If they had stuck with US MT's, kept the work onshore, and kept their prices at US levels instead of Third-World levels, they'd be rolling in $$. Unfortunately, just because one is in a CEO or management position, doesn't necessarily mean their IQ matches their overstuffed pay envelopes. And in most cases, it doesn't even come close.
The big companies are cheating you?
and have never met you? They have maybe talked with you on the phone. They give you vacation time. I just don't get it. An IC might gain an account for 14 cpl with an office. The national is only charging say 10 or 11 because they can afford to since they have platforms and the ease to take on high volume. They pay you 7, 8, or maybe 9, provide benefits, yet the MT feels cheated?
I totally agree that quality matters, but when you are an hourly employee you don't feel that pressure of TAT. Also, the raises aren't there either. So, you wind up working making the same paycheck even though you are still typing an 8-hour day and just as tired. Production makes you more $$$ no matter how you slice it. I've done both, and production is better believe me. 
Read again, I'm not the one who actually said you were CHEATING....
However, you did say, and I quote:
**I need a few more answers on some of the dictation for the final. If you are out there reading this and can help me, please let me know. It is just a few clarifications on things I have researched and just can't find. I need to do great on this final.**
Now, I am not the one who called you a cheater, but you might have wanted to word the above differently, as you did say you needed ANSWERS and needed to do great on this final. I'm just saying.......
Good luck to you I really hope you do well.
cheating lines
Please tell me how you figured that out. I've been very suspicious about my company as well. I keep track of everything, the number of the report, where the report was sent, status of uploaded or not and number of lines; however, if they are fudging you, it won't show up on your line count that you see. It will mean that they have messed with the counting system on the software. People are very sneaky and cruel. I've been doing this for 25 years and cannot get above 100 lines an hour. Now, tell me how that's possible what with using short cuts, etc. Please let me know so I know what to look for. Thanks
YOUR lying, cheating snake....
lied us into a war with over 3500 American SOLDIERS dead, and going on a trillion dollar cost. No wonder bridges are falling down - the U.S. has been neglecting infrastructure needs in favor of militarism for MANY decades.
That said, give the "sex lie" diatribe a rest: Nobody died when bush's predecessor lied...
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Even Bush admits that now.
They used the fear and outrage from 9/11 to lie about WMD in Iraq - and to then JUSTIFY invading Iraq in order to steal it's resources. Deal with it.
BOTH PARTIES are corrupt - but its the evil in office now whose lying should concern *all* patriots the most - because OUR country is in crisis - regardless of party we all should step up and demand our policies change.
As to you flip comment about knowing what's going to happen with the weather? Give that a rest, too. there is all KIND of documentation showing THIS admnistration prefers to fund FAKE wars instead of take care of the people at home. He was warned about 9/11, failing levees in New Orleans BEFORE Katrina, AND crumbling infrastructure like the BRIDGE in MN.
In fact, he CUT FUNDING FOR THE LEVEES in New Orleans THREE YEARS RUNNING before Katrina.
Please do your homework before you defend *any* administration. Don't rely on PAID radio or TV personalities to tell you what YOU need to know in order to protect YOUR country from bad administrations. They have an agenda and trust me PROPERLY informing you is not part of that agenda.
And yes, I know this thread is turning into a topic for the other board...
That's called cheating and scamming and
Talk about unethical and criminal.
Falsifying payroll records, etc.
Hopefully you're not cheating on an employment test, right?
shame on you
Wealth/Shrinks/SATs/Cheating
This has been occurring forever in another way - hiring a shrink to get your child an appropriate score to be placed in the ADVANCED classes and keeping others out who bust their butts to make honest A's. Went thru this with my own children...who were gifted in some areas, not as great in others, but certainly not slow, and working hard to make the A's and B's. You can pay a shrink to give them that IQ score they need that puts them in the "click" in this area. It's okay though. My kids have done great regardless and don't give a @#$ about clicks and who owns what!
If your child was caught cheating at school,
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I needed to divorce cheating DH of 27 years. This was
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query is an Indian phrase. This is an American board isnt it?
holy cow.
This message is defining what VBC is! It's time people realize the American MTs...
are our own worst enemies. VBC is NOT a good thing! I personally think we should get paid per keystroke.
he is not American on what was an American site
What we post, jobs posted, and those who are posting jobs have no way of knowing it is off shore because he is hiding it - what a great way to get more of our jobs - not sure why this does not bother you. But as an American it bothers me
Venting-why do people keep putting nm and THEN writing a message?? nm means no message - sm
Please put sm if you have a message and NM if there is no message other than your subject line. It makes it easier when reading these messages. thanks so much and have a nice day everyone.
Indian?
What does him being indian have to do with anything?
Indian MT
I don't believe you for 1 second. Indian work is NOT SUPERIOR to what is done here. A few of them are doctors, but most are not. They get the medical terminology, but their American English is horrific. Very few of the Indians who do MT trained over here or in Europe. They completed medical school here in India, which is a very abbreviated compared to US or Europe training.
The Indians are enticing American companies to invest and train MTs over there, working at next to nothing, so that when they have captured a significant percentage of the market, they will jack up their rates and the hospitals and clinics here will have to pay because they have driven out all the US MTs by not paying us living wages or giving us decent paid time off, benefits, etc.
People like you are cutting your own throats in the long run.
I am an excellent MT, QA 100% for 15 years, never miss work unless there is a death in the family. My income has gone down steadily over the past 3 years because of the greed of MTSOs. I am leaving this job shortly. I look forward to the day when you bleed to death from the Indian MTSO who will put you out of business.
Indian pay
I am not privy to a lot of info about this, but I can tell you my experience. When I lost my contracted work to a couple of small hospitals that went with India, the administrator told me they went with India because they were doing away with lines. India took 6 of my last invoices and averaged the pay and gave the hospital 2/3rds off!! Mind you, I was only charging them 11.5 cents per line!! She then told me that the offshore company would pay their Indian transcriptionists $2.00 an hour.
Indian......
I am an Indian MT working from home and I read your post. Indian MTs are not bad, they are best. The only thing you need to do is get to a real good one rather than just these newbies who just want to make some quick money and do not have enough experience. Get in touch with some experienced one and you will them superior when compared to other MTs. I myself have been working for 8 years now and i know what it takes to be an MT to prdduce a good accuracy consistently.
Indian......
I am an Indian MT working from home and I read your post. Indian MTs are not bad, they are best. The only thing you need to do is get to a real good one rather than just these newbies who just want to make some quick money and do not have enough experience. Get in touch with some experienced one and you will find them superior when compared to other MTs. I myself have been working for 8 years now and i know what it takes to be an MT to produce a good accuracy consistently.
Indian MTs
From what I have heard, you are on the money and it is so ironic because as American MTs we are not allowed to make any mistakes at all. We have to have this impeccable quality of 98% and above to stay employed. We have to abide by these high standards painstakingly so patient care is not compromised by an inaccurate medical record. Is this a double standard (no pun intended)? Are they not lowering the bar when an MT is paid considerably less money and their profits are thus enhanced in the process?
This is a no brainer and we all know it is about the almighty dollar and not just about patient care.
Indian.
Indian English is not the same as American or British English. Somebody please tell that to the Indians!
Are you Indian?................nm
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You are Indian
You Are Indian
I'm hardly Indian...
...and hardly a troll...I'm pure born-and-bred Texan through and through.
As I said, take my advice or leave it. In the meantime, keep putting money into the pockets of all those money-grubbing MTSOs. I sure won't contribute to them...nor do I have to do so.
You SHOULD be able to tell by my writing style that I am certainly not Indian or foreign in any way, shape or form.
small message. nm means no message
see?
Flame=200 views, sm=see message, nm=no message
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Indian workers
I was obvious they were Indian workers from Indian..Every one of them that I talked to had an Indian accent..I have nothing wrong with American workers with accents..but I called at least eight people to get my internet account straightened out and all had Indian accents..Come on now, I cannot believe eight people are of Indian descent all working at the billing department of my internet account..If you are American of first descent and working IN America, more power to you..if the account is sent overseas, I have a major problem with that..and if you dont have a problem with that, contact me in a few years when our jobs are overseas.
I never said I hire Indian MTs
...but I can't wait to see you bleed to death by your own hand, either.
Thanks for driving us away from American MTs though.
I fought against offshore heavily. What did you do?
Bitter, bitter, incompetent MTs.
Is that still Indian owned by Jay?
NM
Oriental and Indian
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Indian and Pakistani, although (sm)
When I first started this account, there was one doctor who was so awful I was sure I'd never understand him. His dictations are usually very short, which you think would have helped. However, his speech is so bad, I could only make out a few words. After begging my sup for help and getting samples, I now love him! Now that I know what he is saying (even though he doesn't always make sense), I can breeze through them. And.....sometimes he even thanks us at the end of a shift. This is what he said today after the last report....."
Thanks for the help. Happy Holidays . I’ll be here back again Monday. Thanks for the help. God bless you". I wish he knew how much that is appreciated.
Indian Company
Having been a part of an office of six transcriptionists who lost their job to a local service who has "allegedly" sent work to India, I would rather have been let go due to voice recognition. That would not have hurt so bad. The work that was returned from the service had mistakes that I would think were typical of those from inexperienced typists!
CMT (Indian MTs have discount)
Sadly, I am slowly moving from lower middle class to poverty level since pay cuts as a full-time MT.
After numerous requests for some kind of help toward paying for the certification, I am told by AHDI (AAMT) discounts are not even being considered in the near future.
With the future so bleak for the future of MT, I am not sure why I should put out all that money. I am bringing home less than $300/week after taxes and health care...? How do I justify the $287 or so cost, when I have my utilities threatened to be shut off every other month for simply just not having the money...
For me, I do not have a partner who supports me. Am I the only one in this boat?
Only know its an Indian company.
NM
The MT that defends Indian MTs
that steal our jobs is jumping up and down telling someone else not to type for free. Ironic.
Indian people
I don't want to generalize, but most of the Indian people I have worked with over the years have been really nice and helpful. My internists are a husband and wife team from India. He wears a turban and everything. If they have contempt for me and my western ways, I sure don't know it.
I think the reason our records may be unsafe going to India is not because the Indians are not to be trusted, but because our companies pay them slave wages. Legally, I have never understood why minimum wage laws do not extend to overseas contractors, but they do not.
Sadly, most transcriptionists here in the U.S. have seen their salaries decrease. I'm an excellent transcriptionist/editor and very conscientious, but I'll admit. I don't try quite as hard as I used to. For example, I used to routinely make phone calls to double check dictation, but I no longer do that. I can't afford it.
Consider that the average Transcriptionist in India makes a fraction of what we do and how demoralized it is when that transcriptionist is professionally trained, such as doctors who routinely work as transcriptionists in India. There is the potential for huge bitterness and frustration. They don't have the choices we do. They're stuck. I'm not excusing immoral and illegal behavior, but I can understand someone who is paid very little who has no choices acting desperately.
To me that is why offshore workers should be paid more. People who are paid so little work less well. I think that most pay rates for U.S. transcriptionists are just barely enough to keep the workforce conscientious.
Cindy
East Indian . . and they are
Sometimes, when they let an Indian speak
on TV, you might have noticed that Indians pronounce 'that' as 'dat'.
I know NOTHING about Ebonics, have never heard it.
Is saying 'I aks' instead of 'I ask' also Ebonics?
Kinda? What's that? Indian?...nm
nm
Why are you on THIS board..i thought there was one for Indian MTs?
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