I can't stand it when parents spoil their kids with brand new cars....sm
Posted By: Georgia gal on 2005-11-23
In Reply to: Do you believe parents should GIVE their teenagers a nice new car? - SM
especially since a lot of times the teenager ends up wrecking it because they don't care. Those I've seen that have taken better care of their vehicles and drove them properly were those that had some investment in a good used vehicle. They had to work to pay for the gas and insurance at minimum. That's what I did when I was a teenager and the only reason I got a car then was because I had an after school job and it was easier for my parents to help me get a vehicle than drive me back and forth.
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She brought a child in this world with 2 parents, not just a one night stand or something..
She left him because he became abusive and used to try to attack her with knives. It was in her and her daughter's best interest to raise her on her own. One of the reasons she did not seek child support because she was afraid of him. Living from experience, you can get restraining orders all you want. If someone wants to hurt you bad enough, they can usually succeed at doing it. She only went after him for child support after she lost her job. He would give her money here and there before, but she never knew how much or when. She didn't care though because she was able to take care of her daughter very comfortably on her own. She had the same job since high school, was a very valuable employee, worked in the fitness club business as a manager of a gym. She cannot find anyone will to pay her that. She was making that much money because she had been there since high school and she always met sales goals and got bonuses. She is not depending on the government to provide anything. Never has. All she wanted was insurance for her child until she gets on her feet. Do you know there are quite a few countries that have government insurance for everyone?
My sister-in-law left her boyfriend she was with after having her child because he was having a long term affair with another person. She has battled constantly for child support. He owns his own business and does not report all his earnings for tax reasons. She has only been able to collect off what he claims. He is 6+ months behind. She has filed grievances, everything. Meanwhile, he drives a brand new extended cab, he bought a house and he has a jet ski. What the hell good is it to go after the dad if the government is not going to consistently enforce its own court orders?
For parents, what do you think of your kids' friends?
I am wondering if it's ME or if it's my kids' friends that's the problem. I just can't stand barely any of them. We have little sailors running around cussing, compulsive liars, thieves, two-faced "unfriends", blackmailers, anger management problems, slobs, and perverts running around here. And the violent and graphically disgusting games these kids try to play. Is this everywhere? Or am I just overly sensitive? Parents can't choose their kids' friends because the kids'll rebel against the control, right? I just feel like I can't have anyone over here because I'm constantly correcting them and cleaning up after them. They don't listen worth a darn anyway. I certainly don't want my kids to go to their houses if these kids behave this badly here.
I tried going into details, but this post got so long. I don't think it's our neighborhood either because we have to drive for playdates with some of these kids. What, do we just attract the people with issues? I try to tell myself that these are just kids or perhaps their home life isn't in line with the same value system as we have. I try to be tolerant because some of these kids have had problems in their lives. However, having problems is no excuse for bad behavior. I'm no perfect prude and neither are my kids. We've had our share of problems. I also know I can't "shelter" my kids from the outisde world. But geez, it's just ridiculous. Whatever happened to the days when parents were parents and kids behaved? Children should not be cussing, stealing and telling horrific stories of murder and incest.
To give you an example, one of these little punks even told the whole neighborhood that my husband and I were druggies and dealers. We found out about it when our elderly neighbor came over and told us. We've always been totally against drugs, not even experimenting with them when we were teens. Plus, we both have to go through yearly drug screening tests at work, too. What is with the world today?
Parents: Are your kids spoiled? sm
For instance, do they do chores that are age appropriate, do their own homework, get themselves up in the morning and ready for the day if they're older than say age 10? Here's how it works in our house:
6-year-old: Responsible for cleaning her room, feeding her fish and bunny rabbit and her bathroom each week. Puts dirty clothes into the hamper and puts up clean clothes except those that have to be hung, which we do since she's not tall enough. Likes to mop the kitchen floor so we let her do that. Does her own homework after I make sure she remembers the directions.
15-year-old: Has to clean her own room and bathroom - alternates the bathroom cleaning with the 6-year-old since they share a bathroom. If she cooks anything that's not a meal for everyone she has to clean up after herself. She's now learning to do laundry - my DH always took care of that for her in the past or her mom did, but I've forced the issue that she can do her own laundry now that she's 15. Also has to do her own homework without help from us. For instance, while doing English she commonly asks for the meaning of a word. I tell her to go to webster.com and look it up or grab the dictionary - which is how we learned as kids. Also her dad (and bio-mom) used to help do her homework by looking up stuff and writing the answers which she'd re-write but that stopped while we were dating as I got him to realize that he wasn't helping her by doing this and she needed to do her own school work and not whine to get him to help. She is also required to get herself up and out the door for school in the morning, on time, and knows that if she oversleeps and misses the bus because she's goofing off then she gets no PC or TV privileges for the day. It only took her 1 time of missing the bus to learn to get up on time.
What about your household?
Parents with ADD/ADHD kids....sm
Does your child's school work well with you on educating them or don't like having to give your child extra attention?
My 1st grader is having problems staying focused in class with her 24 peers in the room and being asked to stay on task for an hour at a time. At home she does just fine when things are broken down into 15-20 minute intervals. The 2 teachers she has don't want to spend extra time with her or eliminate distractions so I've now officially requested an IEP meeting to force this with them. She had no problems at the same school last year in kindergarten because her teacher had worked with other kids like her in the past and was able to teach her on her level using the techniques recommended.
We met with her 2 teachers yesterday and they actually had the audacity to suggest that we work extensively with her at home on the areas she's struggling in. I'm not home schooling this kid just because they don't want to help her stay focused when my taxpayer money is being paid to support the schools and federal laws require they meet her needs.
Interestingly when I had a prior foster child that had ADD this very same school and teachers were very accommodating and worked very well with me on meeting her needs. Not sure why her current teachers don't want to but we're going to have to work on that.
What about you and your child? Did you have to go to the extremes of getting an IEP and forcing them to do what they're required to do or did you get immediate cooperation? I'm not going to put my child on ADD/ADHD medication just because they don't want to deal with it.
Question for parents about kids and the internet...sm
Which parental control program do you use? What do you like/dislike about it? Our 11-year-old is wanting to have privileges to be on the PC without our direct supervision and I told her that she can't do this until I put a monitoring system in place. Thank you.
Parents - do you have your kids save money? sm
Our children have savings accounts and know that 33% of any money they earn from doing extra chores, babysitting, given as gifts, has to go into their savings account. Do you have your children save money and if so, what are the rules at your house for this?
do you know how many kids come in the ER on an overdose and the parents say "Not my child?" nm
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Parents of College Students..Any of your kids going on Spring Break?
Ugh! I have a son going with a group of friends to Mexico for thier first "spring break." They are all good kids, but I've seen the late-night Girls Gone Wild videos... They better be good. 
I am well aware of that - just angry that parents teach their kids to cheat! nm
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I spoil mine
I pick up and delivery, have even rushed jobs to the OR in time for surgery (did get paid extra for that). I do rush H&P/consults though and do not charge extra. I do provide envelopes for all cc's, I cut apart chart notes on the sticky paper, I put the chart note with the appropriate note/letter/consult. Most of this is included in my price but I do charge per gross line. On the cc I do copy over the doctor's name and address so that is 2 extra lines of charge. But my accounts stay with me through thick and thin, pay ON TIME (48 hours of invoicing), give me bonuses at Christmas, take me to lunch with office staff at birthdays, etc. Have stuck with me through a yucky divorce where I was down a bit, family health problems. So it is a two way street. But I charge them fairly so I can make a decent living but not drain them dry and they know it. I pass my abilty to save by working at home along to them and keep them at 11 to 12 cents per gross line depending on volume. They have NEVER questioned one invoice or line count in 4 to 15 years. So I do all of this with a smile. Patti
spare the rod and spoil the child.
Its not the school's place in my opinion, but i do believe in discipline, done in love. Our creator thought it worthy of mention, so it must not be too wrong.
Whew! Glad to hear it! Spoil yourself tonight, okay! :-) no message
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Not all of us are parents. Not everyone had caring parents. nm,
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cars
What colors ....Any corvette is great but that stang is it
cars
I leased for 3 years and then bought a brand new one! Love the concept, that way I knew exactly what i wanted to buy!
Dog chasing cars
I have a little pomeranian. She is only little in size. In her doggy mind, she is a big bag dog and no car is too big for her. In the car, she will bark at big trucks, I am talking semi's like they better not mess with her. It is really funny to see. She also barks at her reflection. I sometimes feel like barking at my reflection too, so that we have in common. Your dog sounds great.
Cars on EBAY
I live in Georgia and already, drowned cars from Lousiana and Miss. are showing up as "good buys". Beware, once these cars are cleaned up, you will NEVER know they've been submarines in earlier lives. On the other hand, my son bought an awsome Audi out of Tampa, but that was before the hurricaines.
teens and New Cars
Yes, there are probably a few nice new cars the "sweet 16's" had given to them, more so probably out of the guilt the parents felt for not spending time with them or the parents need to "keep up" their own status. My niece was one of those....daddy bought his little girl anything she snapped her fingers for, she is 23, never went to college or held a job, but has a masters degree in partying and shopping. It's finally wearing thin on ol Pops and he gripes and complains but he set the standard the first time he gave in. Kids may not like you right now, but they will appreciate it more so when it's their hard earned money and feel a sense of accomplishment.
On the other hand, my kid who is 20, is still driving a used car and he now knows the benefit of it after 3-4, 5...can't even remember the count minor fender benders, no injuries except to his pride!
Teens are just learning how to drive, insist of driving with the damn cell phones to their ears and minds on anything but the roads, and as I put it, why take something brand new and bang it up? Save it till you have more experience, more of your own money and your insurance rates are lower. If my kid and his friends had stock in Maaco, they'd be young millionaires by now!
Remind her of that old saying, which I heard a zillion years ago when I was a teen "people in h _ _ _ want ice water but they don't always get it
Story about cars
My ex and I were divorced when my son was 11. We lived in the country so in order for my son to even get a job, he needed a vehicle. I bought him a used truck for about $2,000 which was all I could afford. It was a stick and he had a lot of trouble driving it. He was responsible for the gas and the insurance. When he graduated from high school, his dad gave him a card with a professionally made gift certificate in it that said "Good for one vehicle of choice." He even had it notorized and signed by an employee of a car dealer. He gave him the card at his graduation party in front of everyone so he (the dad) could look important. After the party, he called my son to tell him that that did not mean he could go out and buy a Corvette or anything like that. To make a long story short, when it came time for my son to get his car, he wasn't allowed to pick anything that he wanted, his dad decided on the vehicle, color, extras etc. I do not think we owe are kids a car though, just could not help sharing my story.
hybrid cars--anyone have one?
I'm looking to purchase a new car soon and being as how gas is already at $3 per gallon where I live, I'm certainly wanting to get something economical. I've been doing some research on the hybrid cars and am particularly interested in the Toyota Prius, as that one seems to be the best according to what I've found.
I'm just curious....Do any of you MTs have a hybrid vehicle and/or know someone personally who does? If so, do you like it?
rental cars
I am in Arizona and I usually have my best luck with Avis. Hey where are you in Arizona??
those cars are so cute
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Do little kids like caramel? My big kids won't even eat it! We make the basic Baker's chocolat
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So do you do that a lot? You own a big house? Have nice cars?
what-ever..big money my butt.
Wow! I just looked outside to see five cop cars parked
in front of my house. The one neighbor's teenager moved out, so I know it's not that. I wonder what's going down? Should I be ducking? LOL
No way, my DD has JUST started going in cars w/boyfriend. nm
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i use GM mastercard w/rebates on new cars.
We have saved something like $8000 over last 10-12 years in rebates. We put most everything on there, gas, groceries, etc and it adds up. But we only have one card and pay it off every month too, so not sure about interest rates, etc. Can go to gmcard.com and see if it works for you.
Ever had a dog that "chases" cars "in the car?"
We just adopted a dog last month from the SPCA. She's a great dog, very young but past puppyhood, spayed, housebroken, sits, stays, everything you couuld ask for when getting a "used dog." BUT.... We've discovered that her hobby in the car is sitting by the window until a car passes and then "chasing it." She will take breaks and lay down and sleep for a while, but then gets back to her hobby. When we leave her in the car, she just sleeps, so she's basically a pretty good passenger other than the chasing. Anybody ever heard of this before?
I have leased 2 cars and have never had a bad experience. (sm)
Presently I lease a Trailblazer. No down payment, payments of $448 a month including an additional rider I chose for wear and tear coverage. 5 year lease. I can turn it back in 18 months early if I choose to. It's a nice way to get a higher end price car for lower payments.
There you go, lets have a thread about old cars!!!
yeah.
I never said you shouldn't have kids! Feeling guilty? I asked WHY you had kids.
You clearly stated in your post that you ship the kids off to camp all day, and they're TIRED AT NIGHT!! You know exactly what you said. You said it as a PERK - AS IN GREAT! They're gone all day, it wears them out, and so I shovel dinner in their mouths and off to bed! You can try to paint it any way you want, but YOU SAID IT. Again, I only hope your kids never hear you speak that way or write that way. Shame on you. Why have kids at all? Just another parent who has them, gets rid of them for day AND night, BRAGS ABOUT IT, and then calls ME wicked! Give me a break! Camp is fine - its WHAT YOU SAID AND YOU KNOW IT. Your own words showed your heart. Period.
lines at the pumps, 2-3 cars long.
Yes, we swapped cars. DH drives my 4 cyl his 13 mi to work and I keep
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There is also a limit. People in expensive cars
pulling up to stand in line for free money. Doctors and lawyers, supposedly respected business owners, etc who really did not lose that much, at least not to the point where they can't recover on their own. Help the ones who can't help themselves but the ones who can help themselves should be ashamed!
Go ahead and post stuff about your cars
but I doubt many people are interested in it, who knows, but I am sure that many many people want to talk about their animal companions, so if it does not interest you, SKIP it. That is why this is called the main board, many other boards on the left for you to get information on MTing, other than just the main board.
that's true, many new cars now offer great
I have a Toyota Corolla and my gas mileage is even better than the impressive Civic! I don't remember exactly what it is but I want to say around 38-41 MPG.
However, I would also love to eventually get away from traditional cars and more towards Hybrids or whatever else they come up with that will transition us away from oil dependency.
Car dealerships use dryer sheets in used cars.
After wiping what you can with the alcohol as suggested, put a few Bounce dryer sheets in the sealed trashbag.
So, this future generation of MT's all live in their cars?
Because don't forget - MT wages never go up, only DOWN, if any change at all. And cost of living keeps going up. What has gotten cheaper during the recession? NOTHING. What will get more expensive once the economy improves? EVERYTHING.
opps - I meant how will WE buy cars. Tired.
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My Rottie did that too, she sit in the back of my SUV and jump at the cars that passed or followed u
You'd hear her teeth hitting the window as she crashed into the glass. Then she'd get tired and lay down.
Kids are demanding and so is MT work. My question is how CAN you do this with kids, rather than how
When you have two young kids, 11 months apart, (like I stated they are now 4 and 5) and have been doing this since they were born with no help from their father and no family around, YES, the kids get neglected. Part time might work but living on one salary, part time, is not an option. How can you possible tell me that anyone with two young kids can stay at home and work a full-time, 8-hour shift, and still give their kids the attention they NEED. I dont care how good you are at multitasking and how great your organizational skills are. It is a very difficult thing to do. And I am offended by your post making it sound as if it is easy to do.
I do agree that it can depend on how well your kids behave and how well they are able to play on their own. But my kids were not able to play well on their own. They needed constant attention.
So please take the time to realize that there are people out there in different situations than your own.
Reading our posts should help you to understand that everyone has a different situation. I believe everyone should have the right to shares their experiences as it might benefit the original poster in her questions and concerns.
I dont think anyone should be bashed for taking the time out to write about their experiences. I dont usually come on here to argue but you really ticked me off with your post. And try reading the post correctly. I said next time around I would have put them in day care. What I DID do with them was set them up to an activity like art or put on a movie for them. Geez.
Stayed "because of the kids?" I say "leave because of the kids"
You're in no position to buy right now. Keep saving, keep paying down your bills, and for heaven's sake get rid of that dead weight of a BF you're living with. You can do better.
So, should I return the $75 (x2 kids) in music cards I got the kids for x-mas...sm
My son has been telling me about free music sites and I was very leary. How do they skirt the law Radguy?
I don't have kids, but my Mom was from the "old school," and still had everyone, kids inclu
call her by her first name. The little neighbor girl next door from the time she could speak called her Aggie (my mom's first name), and they were great buddies until the day my mom pased away.
I don't think there really is much in a name, but more in the respect you are given and the way you are treated. Personally, I kind of cringe inside when someone calls me Ms. Anything or God forbid, "maam" (makes me feel like Methuselah!) ... I'm always just plain Merrie. :-)
But, as someone pointed out, to each his own. If you want to be addressed a certain way, you have that right, and people should respect that. I'm glad you corrected the child ... hope it "sticks." 
rich skanks dress better and have nicer cars and homes.
Good grief.. Fortunately ours is only chasing oncoming cars, so just
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Most men can't hear the tiny tings, noises that cars make, and things like
an alarm clock. A doctor I used to work for did the same thing in the bathroom too. But, I never heard a plop! Thank Goodness.
Please do not simply give up, kids or no kids!
Talk with a professional. This can be worked through if he really puts forth the effort and you participate. The right counseling can truly make your marriage even better than it was before, if BOTH parties are willing to be honest. Give it a try. Nothing to lose at this point and everything to gain!
Not REALLY a brand name but please SM
This is a mouthwash specially compounded by a pharmacy - I think it originated at Duke University. I usually capitalize Magic because it's not really generic and not really a brand name. JMO
No, not a brand name.
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They are brand new.
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