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I agree with this article. All transcription should be based on minutes

Posted By: rather than line count. on 2005-07-30
In Reply to: actually i would rather be bonused on minutes of dictation. - mqmt

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Web based transcription/dictation
The company I now work for has asked me to look into web based transcription/dictation applications.  They are currently using tapes, and going to a web-based application would be a real time saver.  Does anyone have suggestions?
Not using Windows-based transcription software but need macro.. sm
program that does not require one to know computer programming to use. I am using Bayscribe and it is not Windows based so am unable to use any Windows macros to perform simple things I could save time on.  I checked out Auto Hot Key which sounds great but is just above my computer-challenged abilities as I know no programming language.  I searched the internet and found several programs under "macro recording" but before I invest in one would like advice and opinions!  Thanks for any help. 
Article regarding the future of transcription

I came across the following website regarding the future of transcription. 


Lisa Croydon is the owner of Ask the MT an informative website on how to become a medical Transcriptionist from home.  She writes this very informative article that I refer almost every MT to.  Of course, having a backup plan is always a good idea, but this article can reassure MTs that their jobs won't disappear.


http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Lisa_Croydon


ARTICLE RE: EMR AND MEDICAL TRANSCRIPTION -




December 8, 2008


A New Day Rising
By Selena Chavis
For The Record
Vol. 20 No. 25 P. 10


Medical transcription, long the mainstay for healthcare documentation among providers, is forging into unknown territory as the industry redefines its role in the framework of EMRs. 


Like many facets of the healthcare industry, the transcription field is evolving around the electronic movement. Many questions have been raised about how medical transcription will be integrated into electronic medical records (EMRs) as the industry looks toward the future. While there are varying opinions about what the future holds, most experts agree that, at some point, the role of the medical Transcriptionist will be redefined.


“I think the case is it will morph … and potentially be replaced … or evolve in a way that is different from what it is today,” says Claudia Tessier, RHIA, vice president of the Medical Records Institute. “I and others have the perspective that it will be encroached on unless it adapts and morphs.”


With the promise that EMRs bring to scaling healthcare costs and improving quality of care, Tessier points out that many in the healthcare industry see an opportunity to eliminate the practice of dictation and transcription in its current form. Gone would be the days of feverish typing from handheld dictation devices; the new era would have clinicians input their own documentation directly into patient records via the convenience of cell phones, pull-down menus, and point-and-click and free-text keyboard entry methods.


Add to those efficiencies the promise that many believe speech recognition technology holds, and Tessier says two questions about medical transcription emerge: When will direct data entry options have a significant impact on medical transcription, and what is medical transcription’s role in the transition to EMRs and computer-guided care?


But are potential changes to the process well thought out? Susan Lucci, RHIT, CMT, AHDI-F, director of transcription operations with TRS Transcription and president-elect of the Association for Healthcare Documentation Integrity (ADHI), believes that healthcare documentation is too complex to ever fully integrate into a point-and-click system.


“I think we’ll see a dramatic shift in the kind of work we receive—more severe, less physician office,” she says, pointing out that, in some situations, documentation requires a narrative from the physician. “I think that we can all agree that no two patients are the same. The drawback would be if we ever took it [narrative dictation] out entirely.”


Then, there’s the fact that some areas of the country are lagging behind in the electronic movement. Miriam Wilmoth, CMT, AHDI-F, a member of the ADHI’s electronic health record team and president of the Tennessee Association for Medical Transcription, notes that many providers in her region are still using paper records. “We still have that dichotomy in Memphis,” she says. “Some of the trends that are hot in other areas of the country take a while to trickle down here.”


Going forward, Tessier believes the key to success is providing choice and flexibility with multiple options available, including traditional transcription, computer entry, and speech recognition. “There are all of these options. What’s important is that clinicians be given these options,” she says.


Adapting the Process
No one can fully predict the long-term effect of the electronic movement on the transcription industry or how the role of transcription will evolve over time, but many contend that it will not see its demise anytime in the near future.


“The reality is that the transcription industry is so big that the impact of EMRs and HIT are longer term,” Tessier says, adding that many in the field may become complacent under that belief. “To a great extent, there continues to be a belief that because it is still big, it will continue to be big.”


Currently, the Medical Records Institute estimates that 90% of information capture is dictation and transcription compared with less than 3% front-end speech recognition and about 6% direct physician input by keyboard, stylus, touch screen, and other methods. Alongside those numbers, the AHDI estimates that global medical transcription expenditures are between $12 billion and $20 billion annually, with the largest share of that occurring in the United States.


Tessier points to industry frustrations over the high cost of medical transcription alongside a demand that currently outweighs the supply of medical transcriptionists. Add to that concerns about turnaround time and quality, and many are seeking ways to improve the process.


Change is coming, Tessier says, suggesting that “it’s not an ‘either/or.’ It’s more an ‘and … and … and.’ It’s not being replaced by EMRs—it’s being integrated.” It also means that adjustments are coming, and professionals need to adapt their skill sets. “Everyone would be a lot more comfortable if they knew change means X, Y, Z,” she adds.


Take speech recognition technology, for instance. When it was first introduced, Tessier points out that many in the industry predicted the demise of transcription. Now, 20 years later, the industry is bigger than ever, but at the same time, speech recognition has come a long way and is expected to continue on that track.


Lucci believes there are many opportunities to create efficiencies. “There is a clear evolution to much more speech recognition editing,” she notes. “We’re seeing increases in requests from our clients to use speech recognition.”


Improvements in speech recognition technologies have been steadily expanding the capabilities of computers to understand voice commands, and the benefits achieved through increased productivity cannot be denied. Statistics reveal increases in productivity that equate to upward of 50%.


Wilmoth points to a Memphis hospital where speech recognition technology was implemented in the radiology department. Radiology transcriptionists were given notice that the organization was unsure of the technology’s long-term impact.


However, the end result was that 17 radiology transcriptionists were no longer needed. “The technology worked fine. They [the hospital] only have enough traditional transcription to keep one [transcriptionist] busy,” says Wilmoth, who adds that she envisions voice recognition being a tool that is specialty specific. “I don’t think it will take off as quickly with HIM transcription.”


Raising the bar for efficiencies within an EMR will be the integration of speech recognition with the Clinical Documentation Architecture for Common Document Types, a system for interoperable healthcare reports that conform to standards for information exchange. The standardization and adoption of these electronic documents are expected to enlarge and improve the flow of data, including narrative documentation, into the EMR.


In this case, transcription’s role morphs into an editing function, opening up the need for an expanded skill set from medical transcriptionists, suggests Wilmoth, where listening skills must be adapted, and more critical thinking approaches must be used.


Alongside efficiencies created with speech recognition, many are looking to direct entry from clinicians as an answer to transcription costs associated with traditional dictation, but Lucci says it is unrealistic to expect that dictation will be completely replaced for the long term, especially in the hospital setting. Pointing to statistics that suggest narrative dictation is faster than narrative computer entry, she says that in the acute care setting, few physicians can perform all their required tasks and then have the additional burden of the time required in a computer-entry model.


“I think hospital dictation will not change a whole lot for a while yet,” she says.


Lucci also doesn’t believe that it will make sense to convert certain types of critical patient information to a point-and-click method. “One thing for sure is the history of present illness,” she says. “That is uniquely the situation that caused the patient to present in the first place. It requires narrative input.”


The Readiness Factor
Wilmoth concedes that most EMRs currently have dictation and transcription integration ability where documents are either uploaded into the system or copied and pasted into the record. With that capability in mind, how ready and willing are physicians and clinicians to take on the task of direct entry?


Clearly, statistics reveal that traditional medical transcription is still the choice of many physicians, although trends with younger, more computer-savvy physicians suggest that the tide will continue to turn toward more direct computer-entry models. Wilmoth says the concept of choices should be paramount going forward, and physicians should be kept in mind, especially in the hospital setting where technological choices that are not embraced by clinicians and physicians can often equate to higher costs due to a lack of use or incorrect use.


Wilmoth mentions a comment she recently overheard from a radiologist who was opposed to changing dictation practices to computer entry, who said, “I did not go through 12 years of school to be a secretary.”


“It’s not an elitist attitude. Their skills lie elsewhere,” Wilmoth says. “Taking the dictation option out is certainly going to frustrate some and potentially affect patient care.”


Computer-entry models will likely be embraced more in the physician office setting, Lucci says, where the need to create efficiencies and reduce overhead is becoming more urgent. Statistics from the Medical Records Institute suggest that transcription costs per physician range from several thousand dollars to more than $25,000 annually, making technologies such as speech recognition and point-of-care documentation more attractive.


Alongside resistance to change from some physicians is the question of how a transcription workforce already diminishing in numbers will adapt to its role being redefined. Acknowledging that as more EMRs enter the physician office setting, the need for transcriptionists will continue to decrease, Wilmoth says many transcriptionists are not prepared to “morph” into the editing roles that will be required to complement speech recognition technology.


“It’s a different skill set,” she says. “I think there are some that can transition into editors … some will ride it out and retire … and some will refuse to embrace technology and will go do something else.”


Then, there’s the compensation issue. Presently under notable debate is how to create a fair and equitable system to pay medical transcriptionists for “editing” work, especially in the training phase when production levels dip. Alongside that scenario is the fact that they “will have to edit twice as much as transcribed to make as much money,” according to Wilmoth.


Is Accuracy a Factor?
Consider the following differences between dictated instructions and what medical transcriptionists were able to catch and clarify as potential errors in physician-entered documents. According to Lucci, the following variances were just a few of nearly 150 errors one transcriptionist found in just two months’ time:


1. Dictated: Will resume Altace and metoprolol, but will hold if the systolic blood pressure is less than 10 or the diastolic is less than 60.
   Typed: Will resume Altace and metoprolol, but will hold if the systolic blood pressure is less than 100 or diastolic is less than 60.


2. Dictated: Zosyn 3.375 mg q eight hours IV X 7 days.
   Typed: Zosyn 3.375 grams q eight hours IV X 7 days.


“Physicians have entrusted transcriptionists to do their documentation for well over 30 years,” Lucci says, pointing to the fact that, in many ways, physicians have limited their own ability to document accurately because it has not been their day-to-day practice. “Is accuracy an issue? If you look at clinician-entered information as compared to dictated and transcribed reports, I think you would be surprised to see that the quality isn’t as good. A well-trained [medical transcriptionist] will catch errors in dictation and speech recognition.”


Issues associated with accuracy may be compounded in that physicians may not have the time to be as thorough as they need to be if left to enter their own documentation directly into an EMR.


“Not only is accuracy an issue, but completeness is a bigger issue to telling the patient story,” Lucci says.


Wilmoth tells the story of a patient whose visit to a physician amounted to no more than a series of questions and answers. She notes that the physician pointed and clicked his way through the exam on the computer without ever “laying a hand” on the patient and then proceeded to bill for a complete exam.


“The questions then become, was he attempting to overbill, or did he not understand the documentation system?” she asks. “The other scenario is that they may underdocument to save time.”


It appears certain that traditional dictation and transcription practices are evolving. As they do, the EMR’s impact is by most accounts a change for the better in healthcare documentation. What is perhaps not completely certain is how exactly that transition will take place, to what extent, and when it will happen.


— Selena Chavis is a Florida-based freelance journalist whose writing appears regularly in various trade and consumer publications covering everything from corporate and managerial topics to healthcare and travel.


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Agree, verbatim transcription equals poor quality transcription.
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I don't agree. The decision to pay for holidays should not be based on money alone. sm
If it is, perhaps you need to look at the prices that you are charging.

If you decide to pay a higher than average line rate to make up for benefits, don't say that they do unless they really do.

I make a good living as an MTSO and hate to see whiners make us all look bad.

Time to rethink this business. We need to make our companies places that people want to work, not places that everyone complains about. If we all did that, this field would be much better off all the way around.

LMT
I agree...30 minutes walk/jog/run every day
on the treadmill if the weather is inclement. If not, 30 minutes with the dogs outside. Provides me with MUCH more energy to start the day with and a much better outlook. If you have other health conditions, you might want to check with your MD first, but otherwise, give it a try, starting slowly at first. You'll be amazed at the difference in the way you feel.
Also agree, but average 15-20 minutes an hour...nm
nm
Agree with you. Thirty minutes is long enough.
I will do testing if it has 1 or 2 voice files, but when they send me 4-6+ and then tell me testing take 90 minutes, forgot that. Who has time. Time is money!!!
I agree. I only live 15 minutes away from the Wal*Mart here in FL where they were duking it out

at the store.  I could see myself with my 6 y.o. and my elderly mother in the middle of that mayhem and people diving for laptops one on top of the other...no thanks!  Got everything last year via mail in time for Xmas and never set foot in a store.



Internet based transcription - need advice on how to go internet
Can anyone offer any help/advice on how go about becoming internet based from a call in system, or how to keep the call in system for the docs and put transcriptionists on the internet?  Not sure where to start to get information on how to go about doing this. Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks.
Line-based vs. hour-based requirement
Hospitals do have an hourly requirement, and generally incentive after a certain line level. MQ only has a line based requirement, which is 12,000 per pay period. The hourly requirement is strange, unless they now plan to convert to an hourly pay plan?
I agree - Do it for all the transcription companies...
or don't do it at all...


I agree...I am a transcription supervisor
and my salary is in the mid 30's. I supervise many MTs who earn twice my income.
I agree 1000%. How funny you do transcription according to BOS
and a doctor reads it and says WTF? I didn't say that! But, but my QA person wants me to transcribe according to BOS guidelines so it is not up to the doctor's wants or needs. It is a HUGE CROCK!
I used to say he nursed for 30 minutes every 30 minutes. I was trying to figure
out a way to strap him across my chest so he could help himself while I went about whatever it was I had to do.    I really miss those days too.  
I agree, getting ready to search out another transcription board
as this one has completely gone to the dogs, rarely does anyone go to the other boards that we are constantly being directed to, that is why the main board was so much fun, now it seems there is a place for everything but not here, I will probably be mosing on too. See ya
ATT- I was paying $320 for 7000 minutes, I am now paying $175 for 5000 minutes in CA. nm
nm
Know AIM transcription system, never heard of Hull transcription. Are you sure
you are not thinking about DHull who is a recruiter for MDI-FL?  They use the AIM system. 
I don't think so - my pay is based
on my base rate of 9 cpl and then my incentive that can be as high as 2 cpl.

Nothing was mentioned about extra pay for weekends or holidays.

M, based on what you know,,,,
from doing transcription for an insurance company, what do you feel is a fair price to charge per page.  The font is Courier new 12; the right and left margins are 1.5 inches - each side, with the top and bottom margins being 1.0 inch - each side.
If her job was based on that and they
found her out I guess they could fire her, but unless she is saying she is an MD or such and practicing, doubt it.
Have set up the new web-based email,

still not getting any info that you are "quoting" on this board.


Wonder why ALL MT's are not getting the same info???


levels are based on what you can
do, i.e., can you do ANY type of report or only clinic notes? the more types of work you are able to do the higher your level. Supervisor told me about levels, I think they are relatively new.
I think your compensation would be based on the...sm.
following:  Your level of experience, the time that you are able to commit to transcribing each day, your use of expanders, your baseline typing skills, your ability to utilize the software package utilized by the company, your ability to adapt, and you ability to negotiate your line rate.
DOS based system
Has anyone ever worked for a company that is DOS based? I started a new job today, and their system is in DOS. To me it is really old-school, but I guess I will just have to learn.
American-based here!
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What exactly is a DOS based program?
I think I have heard this is kind of an outdated platform; is it really?  Also, is it anything like Word or WordPerfect, and is it complicated and slow to use?  THANKS!!!
Most are internet based. $$$
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Based on the definition above...
I would come away from viewing that site with an unfavorable impression and unjustly so for the name of the company as well.

I think there's a good argument for libel there.
Yes it is word-based and it is a
terrific program.  I give it 2 thumbs up.
Word based.
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Ask for time-based pay
You're an independent contractor. That means you can choose what you do. If an account is not productive for you, you do not have to do it. You can make a suggestion for another type of compensation.

Write out the issues with the account. Keep a log of the time it takes you to do each part of the task. Figure out a charge for that part of the report--like a surcharge for the demographics or whatever it is that takes all that time.

Present that to the service with a request that you be compensated adequately for the work. Specify exactly what that needs to be. You can do this verbally, but a written copy would be good.

They may be unaware that this account is such a problem. It may be that when you point out the issues objectively and dispassionately, in a business-like manner, they'll see the light.

If they do not agree to do compensate you, be prepared to leave. Find another job and, if you really want to remain with these people -- although I can't imagine why you would want to, other than due to inertia -- explain that you would really like to stay, but you cannot under the circumstances. Your previous written explanation of the inadequate compensation should be helpful here.

If you do look for a new job, don't quit this one until you're settled in at the new one. Even if you have to work 2 jobs a while, do so until you are sure the new job is ok. Then quit the old one.

Be sure to be very polite and give adquate notice so you can return if you need to later.

Is that Medrite windows based or DOS? nm
nm
I think it was based on 65-character line

All these formulas are confusing to me. I guess I need to ask some more questions. But, it's also an IC position, so that makes a difference doesn't it? Low pay for that? But, you are right, might be good experience.


The treatments are based on weight normally.

I have a Frontline spray and it can be used on either, 1 to 2 pumps per pound, but if you have the other kind it is premeasured based on weight.   Can you call your vet and ask them?  The people at the front desk should be able to answer your question.  


I looked on-line and there is only 1 dosage sold for cats, but it didn't say what the dosage was so I couldn't compare it to a dog dosage.


If you buy your flea treatment from your vet check out www.entirelypets.com. 


 


You R probably right about PRD/Dos. That Cottage Prog I was on was DOS-based. I have never used

Will go check that out in case the tower turns out to be too expensive right now.


 


Need help with Word-based expanders ....sm

I am starting with All-Type soon, and the handbook says that their platform works with any Word-based expander.  That's all fine and good, but I have never used one.  I'm a PRD+ girl from the old WP51 days, and currently work in Bayscribe, and the Expander in it is a lot like PRD.  Are any of the Word-based Expanders like that?  I tried Instant Text once and hated it.  I don't want popup windows and such.  I like it to be simple, like PRD ... enter copdd and get chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, etc.  Are any like that?


Thanks for your help!  


Winscribe-is this Word based? nm
nm
It is based on lph, not total lines sm
produced.  It is based on lines per hour over the total pay period.  200 lph, one bonus, 300 lph, another bonus.  Per line bonus based on all line produced.
None from what I can figure based on the numbers - sm
listed below. The amount of lines was the same for 65 cpl with spaces versus 55 cpl without spaces. So I'd say you have absolutely nothing to worry about. The smaller number of characters per line is your saving factor. Wish I had a 55 cpl, but I get 65 cpl w/o spaces and by comparison lose about $200 a month due to this. Like I said you have nothing to lose, lucky duck!
have 18. expand library based on your need,
not on what the 'jones' have going on!!
Not anymore. Most are internet based.
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Is Emdat Word-based?
nm
opinions based on the negative
Then I ask you this...is it right to base your opinion on a large group of peopel based on your experience.  We have all had negative experiences. I have had quite a few of my own. I have had experiences with legal and illegal Mexican's.  My husband was an engineer at a poulty plant in NC that ran on the hard work of legal and illegal immigrants.  He did not agree with hiring illegal workers, he knew it would not change, and he has since moved on.  We cannot go around pointing fingers because there is always someone to point the finger back.  For example, your father did something wrong, should we hate him, should we suggest he got what he deserved?  I would not do that.  You also talk about hygiene a alot.  In fact....you say  they work all day in the hot sun and then do not shower.  Is it possible that working ALL DAY IN THE HOT SUN exhausted them.  Lets continue this dialog.....again I ask is it right to form opinions of hate based on your own experience, which in a world view is still limited or is it better to dialog with people find out what their experiences are, not just the ones that match yours.  We all have negative experiences, but you can chose to forgive and move on and yes even love.  I hope you do. 
I based pay rates on positions I have
been offered in the past 6 months.  Sure there are lots who pay less and some who pay more. 
Encompass is based in Wisconsin
www.encompassmt.com
Same Day Transcriptions is based in New Jersey
The people who own Same Day live in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. I used to work for them and will again if I can find the time. Nice people. They pay well and on time.
I agree with Megan.
It is based on a 65-character line. sm
Headers/footers not included, spaces are.

My ES accounts always match that of Word when you take total characters including spaces and divide by 65.

EditScript software does not "control" spaces after a sentence. If you put 2, it will count 2, and if you put 1 it will count 1.

If a comes up ready for editing and you have to transcribe part of the report, you are paid at the editing line rate....unless you contact your account/supervisor and tell them you had to transcribe it. Depending on the company or hospital, they may or may not give you the transcription rate. That is probably a case-by-case basis or account-by-account basis.

The software can not determine you transcribe part of a report that was initially q'd for editing. If that dictator is voice recognized and he dictates one sentence, it becomes a document "Ready for Editing."

I hope this answers your questions.

I have been working with ES for about 7 years now. Absolutely enjoy working with this software program.

Home-based Pathology
Does anyone out there type for a Pathology Dept. or a medical examiner in the privacy of their own home?  I saw a message where one gal said she worked for a hospital Path. Dept. from her home which included benefits, etc.  I cannot find her message now, and am wondering if she is still out there and would answer my message.  I would love this as I really need the benefits.  Thanks  Del
My thought is that it's just an excuse to cut US-based
It would be interesting to see if those same 'qualifications' are required for our India-based counterparts. Betcha' NOT.