I've been using Dragon fairly steadily
Posted By: since November 2003 on 2006-07-11
In Reply to: DragonSpeaking - bummed transcriptionist
I have excellent results. Maybe one or two mistakes per page, if that much.
Any number of factors could be the reason for the problems you're having, starting with your soundcard, improper training, not dictating correctly, etc.
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I've used Dragon
many times and really like it. Along with the program, you need to get a headset that has a microphone attached to it, as this is what you will speak into.
What I do is listen to the dictation and then repeat it into the microphone and the Dragon program types it out for you - it's really cool!!! It takes a while to get the non-medical part set up because it doesn't recognize most drug names and certain specialty terminology, but you can teach it to recognize them in the future by correcting the spelling when it comes up for a spell check, and then saying the word into your microphone. Then when you say this word again, it remembers it and types it out correctly. Doing this with every drug name and medical term is what takes so long. You also have to be very careful about proofreading because sometimes, even though you think you're speaking very clearly, it comes up with something that's so not even close to what you said and doesn't even make sense - sometimes this is good stress relief because you get a good laugh at it! I don't use the program every day - mainly when my arthritis kicks in, but it has been a lifesaver on those days. If you can have the patience to program it for the medical stuff, it's definitely worth the money for it.
Good luck to you and I hope this helped!
Cathie
And NO, I'm not a whiz..lol..I just work steadily. nm
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On my best accounts, about 25 min/hour and steadily.
lol
I need some help fairly soon please. DH has
broken out in red blotches that are very itchy. He took some Benadryl to relieve the itching, but what could this be? Is it something he needs to see a dr for urgently? TIA
I need some help fairly soon. sm
There's a rash on my hiney (referred to hereafter as DH -- dear hiney). It's getting splotchy. Can you tell me what it is? Also, do you think it was something I caught or do you think it was something I ate?
Should I call somebody? Do you think I need to take DH to see a doctor?
I think this is going to be urgent fairly soon so please let me know. Thank you.
Fairly new mom
Things not to buy - When my son was born, we got 40-something blankets, 30-something burp cloths, and way too many 0-3 month outfits. While I was extremely grateful for all the gifts, I had to spend a lot of time exchanging the multiples. Amazingly, we had to exchange a lot of diapers, too, because the cheaper ones don't always work as well on little boys.
Things I loved were anything homemade, personalized, etc. Also, outfits, socks, and onesies in bigger sizes, 3-6 months and 6-9 months, were a lifesaver and money saver as he got bigger, which seemed to happen overnight. You can never go wrong with wipes, shampoo, and other essentials. My son is 1-1/2, and I have yet to buy any shampoo or lotion for him.
I am fairly new at this,
and I have made the mistake of using palpations before. I know the correct term, but I just made a mistake. As soon as I see that mistake corrected, I realize I messed up.
I do not see how someone with 20 years of experience could be making those mistakes and think they are correct. I have known those proper terms for a long time now. I just cannot see how they would make it this long and never once be corrected on them.
Here's one fairly easy
I was once a "head on a silver platter" - Got a big square box top, bought some cheap fabric enough to drape over the box, cut a slit and a hole in the box top enough so it would fit over my head. Then I also cut the fabric to drape around the box and decorated my face up in white face paint with red lips to look like the blood had all drained out of my face. You can embellish it anyway you like. I made the platter out of a bid cheap silver tray like you get at Thanksgiving to put the turkey on and a I pasted plastic fruit around on the platter. The point is just to make your head from the shoulders up look like it has been cut off and put on a platter. Everyone liked it. I could email you a pic later if you would like. It was really fun.
Red splotches! Need help (fairly soon)! nm
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I thought I was fairly good at them
got several that I absolutely could not understand 1/2 of what was being said. Made 100 lines in 3 hours!!!!
It's easy if you are already an MT, but you really need a fairly extensive...
knowledge of anatomy. CT scans, PET scans, MRIs... Knowing your anatomy really helps you catch mistakes or know that you're not making mistakes by typing the name of a body structure that isn't even near the area of that particular scan. At least where I work, if you make mistakes on x-rays the radiologists get REALLY TICKED! They read them all and when they find the smallest error they're on the phone to the transcription manager, and we hear about it. Doctors are making medical decisions based on the findings of these x-rays and scans, so you can't exactly be making errors. But, if you have a good medical transcription background, you can be trained pretty fast. I had never done them until recently but learned fast.
Me? I drive a fairly new car. so I'm not "carless." You? nm
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Really!!! This is fairly common MT 'net community
can this go on?!!
Maybe my hospital is unique, but they require their MTs to be fairly
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Nope, but I'm fairly familiar with the scriptures. Thank you anyway. nm
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I don't think you could fairly penalize an MT for not understanding a word without (sm)
without also penalizing the dictator for not being able to speak the word.
Had a fairly difficult time adjusting but,
I believe it is doing my hands and wrists some good. The keys seem more difficult to depress than previous keyboard, and it sounds like a rattle trap (plus the p sticks), but other than ALL THAT, I think I like it.
I ask for a raise fairly often. The worse I can be told is no and sometime I have gotten a yes.
:+
I would be proud if my records, with my name erased, could be used to help an MT be treated fairly.
:P
Oooh "help fairly soon!" Hello, William Shatner, it's Rescue 911!
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this has been around for years - although handheld is fairly new - was juust a computer in each room
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Starting pay is 6 cents a line, fairly good account stability.
I had lots of ESLs. Benefits are okay. They have a new, stricter QA policy in place with new compensation, hard to get a 98 or above as it is by the BOS. It was okay, but couldn't make any decent money. Need to be a super high producer.
Satellite users for MTing - it your connection fairly reliable- I cannot get DSL and about to give u
nm
I am fairly new with my company and I tried the control Y one time, and it didn't work, so I thou
into the "global" normals, I will play with it again and give it a try. How long have you been doing transcription? Have you stayed with the same company for a long time? I worked at a clinic for 6 years, hospital for 8, and now this new national for 3 months.....I hate feeling new!
Using the Dragon
I, too, have carpal tunnel, released in the right have, getting worse in the left. I am recuperating from a broken right clavicle and find it very uncomfortable to extend my right hand/arm to move the mouse. Also, it is not allowing my collar bone to heal. One of my docs changes his mind so often that I have to delete and re-type so often that this might not be the way to go. Also, by the time I "train" myself to use the Dragon, I should be all healed.
dragon
Do you know if it can transcribe dictation from wav files? Also would the doctor have to train the software or could the Transcriptionist train it?
dragon
The person doing the dictation has to train the software. The MT could listen and redictate but why?
In the end, more trouble than it's worth.
Brad
Dragon
Were you using the Medical
Suite? It is absolutely necessary to have it. Did you spend the extra money to work with a prefessional Dragon trainer? I did and it was worth ever penny. Were you using a GOOD headset? Did you run the
Acoustic Optmizer at least weekly to improve recognition? Did you turn off the mike if you had to spend more than about 30 seconds looking something up or going back to listen to something again? Dragon does not work as well if you have a difficult dictator and you have to stop and start a lot, so sometimes it is quicker to type a report. Did you build macros and normals in Dragon? Were you working in the Dragon Pad or Word? If you were trying to use it in another program, all of the commands may not have worked and the recognition not as good. It is best to dictate into Word or Dragon Pad, then copy and paste.
What version of Dragom were you using? The older versions were slow and took longer to train. I have Version 7 with the Version 8 upgrade and the recognition is very, very good and it took only about 30 minutes to train on it.
I have not had problems with my docs as far as what to charge. My formula is simple: The better the dictation (i.e. the doc follows the rules of how to dictate into Dragon), the better the recognition, which means it takes me less time to edit, so I charge less.
I suspect your main problem was that you did not have the medical suite or you were using an older version, or that you needed more training on it from a pro.
VR-Dragon
I use Dragon to transcribe because I can no longer type, and have been doing so for the past 7 years. It has improved 1000% since I first started with it. I have Dragon 8 now. It may not be as fast as fingers, but it has kept me employed. I use it in conjunction with Auto Correct and Auto Text; I have created a ton of voice-activated macros/normals and I can usually turn out at least 1200 lines per day. More if I am doing radiology. Don't wait until your hands give out completely like I did. It is well worth the money. You may E-mail me with more questions if you like.
Dragon - sm
I have had Dragon 8 Preferred for about 4 months, I bought it off ebay new for very little. I have never been able to get a lot of speed out of it, even with excellent diction it makes mistakes and I have to make corrections. But I am able to use it for parts of my OPs, and most of my discharges. A little slower, but I can turn out more than 800 lines a day now. Was having too much trouble with my shoulders and hands to do more than that before. If you're really fast, it probably won't save you any time, but it sure can save you wear and tear on the body. I don't believe I would use it enough to invest in the Medical Version, though.
Dragon
Hi,
I have used Dragon Speak medical for many years and love it. It does have its problems, like when i am tired or speaking too loudly, i definitelyhave to proof everything, but it has helped me in the long run in getting reports pumped out quickly! I do a lot of PERS and IMEs so it is a great help and wrist saver. I don't understand what problems you might be having. Feel free to email me.
Cindi
I use Dragon
Hi. You can email me if you would like.
Has anyone tried the new Dragon 9...sm
speaking software. It is supposed to be better without any voice training. Considering trying it to cut down on those late nights. If you have used it what do you think of it. It would be used for Clinic notes if that makes any difference.
Thanks.
Dragon
Anyone using Dragon? I was thinking about buying a unit for home - you know listen to the dictation and repeat it. My hands need a rest now and then. I had it when it first came out but it was lousy and I wasn't happy with it. Are they any better or is there something else in place of it. Thanks
Dragon
using this to dictate from handwritten progress notes, but then do you think this would require a lot of editing? I guess once Dragon is trained, it could increase productivity. I would like to save myself from looking up and down from my desk.
Dragon MT
I just started using this Dragon MT program. So far it is like taking 10 steps back from the other program that the hospital was using. Is this correct that there is no medical dictionary or Expander with this program and you have to create your own in Word autocorrect or am I missing something. Is this customary with most software? I guess I have been spoiled so far. With all of this technology, it is hard to believe the company wants you to start from nothing. Thanks in advance.
what is Dragon?
just wondering what dragon is?
Dragon
I am interested in purchasing Dragon for transcription. I went to Staples and asked for the preferred addition. The man said he hasnt heard very good things about the program. So I put it back and came home to ask your advice.
I know that it is non medical. I know they have a medical one that cost around 1,299. Any information on this product and how it works would be greatly greatly appreciatted. If I can use it and save my hands that would be great.
Again be honest about and tell me what you think.
Thanks guys.
Lilly
I use EXText with my current job and I've used at a couple of other jobs I've had. I've ne
used DocQscribe, but I have used Meditech, Cerner, Vianeta, the Precyse platform (I can't remember the name), Dolbey, and Lanier platform I think was called Cequence (?).
Out of all the different platforms I have typed on, I have liked EXText the best. In my opinion, it's very user friendly, easy to learn, and I really like ESP which is the built in abbreviation expander. Plus it is very easy to create your own normals which I love. My fingers literally never leave the keyboard because there are macro keys for everything. You can use your mouse if you prefer or learn the function macros. I love it. I think I'm more productive on EXText than with any other platform.
How does Dragon work?
Has anyone used "Dragon" VR - and if so, how does it work? Is it worth shelling out the big bucks for?
Dragon-Medical 7
Got mine on e-bay for half of Softscan.
I use Dragon 7 and love it, BUT
This takes months to train right and lots of patience. I have carpal tunnel clear up to my elbows. Had to do something (not surgery) and got myself a Logitech trackball. No more chasing my mouse. My thumb does all the work. I love it.
I tried re-dictating to Dragon...
I bought the latest best version, souped it up with KnowBrainer and devoted 3 solid months to training it to my voice and building a huge vocabulary. I could still type circles around it. Editing is extremely bulky and slow. Also don't think you can have your docs dictate a page and then train Dragon to do their speech direct. First of all, they will expect you do to charge less since "the computer" is doing all your work. Second, you will be spending tons of time doing further tweaking and training to get Dragon anywhere near up to par to actually get any production out of it. All of which is not only frustrating as h---, but you don't get paid for it. Now, don't take this to mean that VR won't take over transcription. Big companies use a different platform with the Dragon engine - one in which they have spent a lot of time figuring out how to make it quick and easy to edit...oh, the end is in sight, all right...
Dragon Speaking
I am totally baffled at how "you" can use Dragon Speaking when it is the doctor's voice that you are using. How can you do that? How can you edit someone else's voice? I have been wondering how this works for a while, so figured this is a good time to ask. TIA
Things to consider about Dragon
I took a class at the local junior college just to see how the program worked. I would suggest that you try it out as rigorously as possible before you buy it, even if a lot of people tell you it works well. Will it work with your voice? This is a serious question. It does not work well with all voices, particularly female voices, and it doesn't matter how many times you read the selections to train it. Make sure you try all the commands as well as regular speech. I never could get it to understand *select* which was the first step to doing anything else like bold, underline, delete. etc. Be prepared to have to retrain it if you have a cold/allergies or yelled yourself hoarse at your kid's game. Know that if it continues not to work at a particular task, you will get frustrated, your voice will change and things will go downhill from there. Whether it *works* or not may also depend on why you want it. If you have carpal tunnel really bad, then any little thing may help keep you employed and it would be worth it to you even at a level someone else found unacceptable. If you want to use it with other software, for example DocQScribe, make sure you ask your employer's Technical Service people if it is even possible. I had fun with the class, but I wouldn't buy the product. That was the consensus of the class. Out of 20 people tops, 2 got it to work well, 2 thought it had possibilities and the rest of us said *not ready for primetime.*
Dragon NaturallySpeaking
Definitely, but only after a lot of voice training. After that, though, it did very well and typed a lot faster than I could ever type. It never worked well for medical, but was great for radiology. If you don't mind me asking, who do you work for?
Dragon NaturallySpeaking
You need the version that is recommended for your version of Windows. The earlier version I was using will not work with Windows XP, for example. You definitely need the Professional Medical Edition, the one that is roughly $1000.00, but it will quickly pay for itself once you've trained the software for your voice. (No, I do not work for Dragon or Nuance.)
Dragon NaturallySpeaking
I just posted a reply to this, Rita, but I don't know where it went. You need the Professional Medical Edition and the version that is recommended for your version of Windows. It is not cheap, but will quickly pay for itself once you have it trained well for your voice.
Dragon NaturallySpeaking
You're welcome, Rita.
Does anyone use Dragon instead of typing?
What are your opinions?
I have used it and moved up to Dragon -sm
Honestly the one on word worked just about as well as Dragon. But, that said, I no longer use either one. My shoulders and my neck quit hurting but the time took to go back and correct mistakes was to time consuming to make it worth it. You really have to be willing to invest a lot of money into a microphone and even then, you might get 70% accuracy tops. Unless you really wanted to shell out some big bucks and get Dragon Medical, I think you will find it a big hassle. My production did not go up at all, but I was in less pain :) Go spend $20 and buy a head set and give it a shot, but be prepared to be disappointed.
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