I'm no PETA supporter. Still know cruelty when I see it, though.
Posted By: Sad, so very, very sad on 2007-11-21
In Reply to: You truly are welcome to your opinion - but I quite frankly am tired of you
NM
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Why would you let your opinion of Peta work against all the other organizations that are fighting factory farming. This isn't about Peta it is about the farmed animals.
Oh so you are another offshore supporter?
Sounds like YOU may be the creep.
check out PETA
I would suggest you check out the PETA website. They will keep you informed about what is going down with animals. They have gone undercover and filmed many an abuse case and brought the abusers to jail or reported them to the govt. Chickens are electrocuted while in their cages, they are sprayed with water and then wires are touched to the cages. They also are boiled alive. Pigs and cows are kept in tiny corrals where they dont even have room to sit down or lie down or turn around. These are factory farms, not the old time mom and pop farm. Baby cows, i.e., veal, are taken from their mother before four months of age and killed for veal. Slaughter houses slit the throats of cattle. The cattle are supposed to die, some dont and are hooked upside down on conveyor belts. They move along getting skilled, moaning and twisting in their pain. Some farms neuter animals just by cutting their sexual organs, without anesthesia. Cows wait to be herded onto trucks, pushed onto trucks, the ones that fall are left to die without water or food, lying there with broken bones, caused by the herding into the trucks - this last case was filmed by undercover PETA workers and the company herding the cows was fined.
No, and I'm am more of an AHDI/BOS-2 supporter.
There are few changes in it and the ones that are there are ridiculous, in my opinion. Makes us (as MTs) look like idiots for following:
No more periods after abbreviated personal and courtesy titles! WHAT? So, now you should write Mr and Mrs Happy (not Mr. and Mrs. Happy).
No more commas to separate names from titles with roman numerals! WHAT? So, now you write Harry Happy II (not Harry Happy, II).
No more hyphens between numbers and their units, even if it is a compouned modifier! WHAT? So, that means you would write ... close the 2 cm incision (not .... closed the 2-cm incision).
Just nitpicking crap to make us look bad and make them more money.
Use the BOS-2, it's much smarter. Use the AHDI for its good stuff and leave the bad stuff alone (i.e., if it benefits you, use it...and BTW, you would just periods with that latin abbreviation any longer, lol).
BTW, the BOS-3 won't be available electronically. Have to buy a book or pay a monthly fee to have web access.
Better stop my rant now. LOL
Invest in an athletic supporter!
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You're right, I am getting my PETA fanatics mixed-up.
:+
cruelty
In the recent PETA video regarding processing for KFC out of the Moorefield, WV plant...my son worked there 3 years ago. Yes it's cruel. The chickens are packed into crates and cannot even move. They will peck the guys who unload them and put them on the conveyor belt, so those guys will kick, stomp, throw them against the wall, etc. Do do go by belt to a large saw and if that doesn't work, there is a guy working there all day with a knife who completes the job. Sometimes if there are too many, they make it to the boiling water alive. It's pretty filthy work, they get chickens who are diseased and those go down a chute for pet food. The workers aren't allowed to wear gloves OR a mask, their feeling is it could contaminate the chickens (??). My son was exposed to campylobacter there and ended up having to have his stomach taken out. Get this, they refused his compensation saying he couldn't prove he got it there, even though they reported it to the health department (by law) and to the CDC. I believe PETA goes overboard at times, but in some cases, the story really needs to get out. There are many videos on their website.
CRUELTY CLARIFICATION
To the multiple posters below, regarding the thread on farm animal cruelty. First of all, I believe you. Second of all, me and many like me don't have access to video and/or cannot watch the video. Yet, we still want some facts. I was not able to pick up fact based on the thread. Here is what I found out -- VERY INFORMATIVE by the way, and I appreciated reading it -- but there were still questions in the air. Can someone please CLARIFY, by way of simply stating the facts, what is going on with each of the following animals, so that we, AS CONSUMERS WHO MOSTLY SHOP AT BIG CITY SUPERMARKETS, can make an INFORMED CHOICE based on these facts:
1. Chickens. Know they live their lives squashed and get heads severed off via rotating razor blades. True, false, anything missing?
2. Veal calves. The cruelest fate of all (besides french geese for fois gras or however you spell it). Tiny crates, water deprivation, light deprivation, no straw, no way to move the extremities. And how are they killed?
3. Regular calves, and cows for meat. How are they killed - really? I think the general public thinks they get a humane bullet in the head. Is this not true?
4. Dairy cows. Their fate? And aren't they treated a little better (fresh air, etc.) for dairy vs meat? Please inform.
5. Pigs. We know that they eat, we know they are dirty, but assume that they, too, get room to roam, and are killed with a bullet BEFORE being cut up. Is this true? If not, how different?
6. Anything else we need to know about?
So very, very much appreciate a WRITTEN answer to those of us who have no access to / cannot go the video route. BIG THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
Beauty Without Cruelty
These products are also not tested on animals and do not use animal products in them. I think a lot of aging has to do with sun exposure. I don't have the around-the-eye wrinkles, but do have forehead lines because I squint.
I do. I still believe it is an unnecessary cruelty.
NM
Oh my Gosh - WEGMANS has cruelty to animals??
That is the only place I will do my grocery shopping - I haven't seen the video yet, but please say it isn't soooo. There are only a few Wegmans - Where will I goooooo??!!!?!?
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