I'm done trying to compare apples to oranges. sm
Posted By: NWMNMT on 2009-03-02
In Reply to: what is the result if you make the same - non
You are free to go on beating the dead horse, however. Best wishes.
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Apples and oranges. sm
Working in-house is quite different than working through a service (though I suppose I *could* hop a plane and fly halfway across the country to confront someone at my hospital). No, as an MT working for a service we don't have that opportunity.
Otherwise, I don't think we're in disagreement. As for the original poster, however, that's an entirely different situation.
But that's not comparing apples to oranges.
2000 55-character lines is about 1700 65-character lines. Take away some more lines for unpaid headers, footers, and demographic information, and I could probably do what you're doing. Ah, so! I need to find a better employer that pays for headers, footers, demographics, and by the gross line!
Or rather it IS comparing apples to oranges. LOL
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What a dumb comparison - apples & oranges
Geez. A lot of people can't spell, and they sure as heck don't belong managing a QA department for medical transcription - correcting other people's mistakes!
You're comparing apples and oranges here, SandyGirl. SM
You're talking employee status in NYC. Some of us are talking IC status where we set our own rates and do the work we're most productive at.
I am settled into a comfortable routine. I know just exactly how much work I have and how long it takes me to do it.
You should really be careful about calling folks liars when you have absolutely nothing to go on but what YOU get paid. It makes you look pretty silly and uninformed.
No not from TTS. I am trying to compare apples to apples
Yes, you could do 400 lph with editing but if you got paid 4 cpl line you have to do minimum 3200 lines in a day vs 1600 a day with 8 cpl for straight typing. So I am assuming to make more money line count would have to be higher than 3200 a day with editing. I understand that most companies pay half of what they do for straight typing so that tell me you have to produce twice as much to make the same money??? I cannot figure out if VR is a way to pay the Transcriptionist less overall? Even though she might be producing 400 lph if she is only paid 4 cpl she might end up making less than if she just did straight typing at 8 cpl. Unless I have it wrong....
You can't compare apples with
oranges as he had lost his job and who knows the real truth. Tragic loss of lives.
Suffice it to say, it's pretty scary out there these days with so much misery over job loss, home loss and no hope in sight. It's like the domino effect. It's all happened so fast and there is no stopping it. Certain people will act out. No doubt immigrants are much harder pressed in times such as these. Even doctors are suffering from this economy. Hard to believe but it is true.
Right. Can't compare the two. Just like you can't compare clinic and doc office work to acute
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how many apples are red?
Who knows how many MTs are happy. and how do you measure happy? I for one, still enjoy my job after 30+ years of doing it, but i do make less money than ever.
There is some standardization in the field that was not there at all when i started MTing. But not all the standards are good ones, and it does not have the overwhelming respect of those in the trenches. Many of us now juggle the BOS (formerly AAMT) standard, a company standard, a client standard and the HIPAA as well as doctor idiosyncracies. Of course, the standards never touched the pay scale or schooling requirements.
In MTing, the appreciation seldom comes in a pat on the back; usually it simply is a self-satisfaction for doign a job well.
My thoughts? Keep doing what we do, better, with faster TATs and eventually the work may come back from overseas. It does not hurt to have a plan B though, esp in this economic environment.
Don't listen to the old sour apples...
However, if you are starting from scratch with no medical background and no training in transcription, you are 2-3 years from making ANY kind of money even IF you can find a job at home. It's like learning another language, the language of medicine. If you already have a medical background and have taken terminology, a way to more quickly get into the business would be to find a single doctor doing one specialty, saying the same thing over and over. However, if you're inexperienced it might be hard to get a doctor to trust you with his transcription. I don't know anything about your situation, so it's hard to answer. Any more info?
I vote for Mrs. Prindable's apples!
They're not cheap but you can get a sampler box for a better price and they're individually wrapped. And QVC.com has them too. If you decide not to get them for the teachers, at least get one for yourself! Yummmmmm!
http://www.mrsprindables.com/store/index.asp?rectype=occasion&department_id=54
http://www.mrsprindables.com/store/index.asp?rectype=store&DEPARTMENT_ID=36
Please dont judge all by the bad apples
Some of us are happy with what we do and are happy to lend a hand. Not all, or even the majority of us are rude. There are just a few that like the attention on these boards i think.
you're mixing apples and beans here...sm
Some of us are heavy patriots, sons and daughters of America, but do not like what's going on in D.C. It's as simple as that. They are tapping 100,000+ Americans. Do you really believe that one-third of our country is involved with terrorists? Doubtful.....not even half that number. This administration simply TAKES advantage at every turn...in every nook and cranny that they can.
They are the reason the work force across the USA is highly upset, doesn't matter which state, which city, nobody is a happy camper in the regular work force today in the USA. I blame D.C.
Yes, GOD Bless the men and women who would fight for us to keep us FREE throughout history. And I will bless the men and women who are fighting today in Iraq
....but know it's over oil....do not delude yourself.
Just one person's opinion......we were ALL duped...approval rating as of yesterday and this includes everyone, whether reps or dems, was 29%....
For saurkraut lovers, put apples, onions and pork chops in crock pot.
Wonderful meal. Some fresh rye bread with butter. Yummie.
The best way to compare the two is...sm
open a document you have type and count it in a 65-cpl versus a gross line count....any counting program can be set to count in gross lines. Personally, I count my lines in Word Perfect. It has a line counting feature where you can tell it not to count blank lines and then you just multiply by what you are getting paid by the line. You come out much better on the gross line count.
I don't think you want to compare yourself to Yente
Busybody supreme! 
You must compare your documents..
with MS-Word Word Count, which is the standard. MS-Word count tool is used by FlashCount.
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Compare it to a 'regular' job . . .
I tried one of those plans that swore up and down that it wasn't a multi-level marketing program, it was just "direct marketing" to your circle of influence. It cost me money to join (does a regular job?) and while I didn't stockpile stuff in my garage, I did have a quota that I needed to personally purchase every month in order to stay an "active member". Part of my $60/month that I spent actually went into the pockets of the 7 people above me. If I achieved the next level (certain number of individuals below me) my quota for the month would double. I would go to your state's Attorney General's website and search for pyramid scheme/ponzi/etc . . . Having to spend $120 a month to make money, especially when you can alienate a bunch of your friends in the process seems a little too much to pay . . . just my 2 cents . . . best of luck whatever your decision.
Compare old documents
Look at some of your old documents and see what your gross line is and then see what they would have been paid if you had been using a 65 cpl. In word you can do that. Now some software will count double character for capitalization, bold, underline, tabs are counted, indent and count spaces. So that will also make a difference. When one of my accounts was using Sylcount we always counted that way. I do not think that there is a simple chart to use and since your documents could be very personalized with formatting, i.e. indenting lines which makes a gross line smaller, to me it would be best to compare your specific documents rather than a generic table. There are a lot of variables (how long is your gross line) and I don't think a comparison table could take that all into account. But I would think I think an estimation has always been 30% less lines for cpl versus gross.
how does 11/cpl IC compare to 8/cpl employee
are there pros and cons to both, and is it fair to say that it all weighs out about the same, considering what the IC has to pay in taxes, do they travel for their accounts, do they have any benefits, etc.?
Oh, I know. I wasn't trying to compare myself to anyone.
I was trying to figure out if this is even possible. I know when I did acute care I could never get 200 lph. Now I am on a clinic account and doing close to 300 lph. I just assumed I was at the max, so to see this post, it just made me wonder if it is possible to do more, not that I am going to strive to do more at this point. Right now if I go above 300, I am afraid my accuracy would suffer. I was just curious if there are others out there doing 400-500 consistently as these MTs are said to be doing. If there are, I would love to know some secrets! :D
There is no way you can compare security
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Just some things to compare...
Example: If you type 1000 lines a day at 8 cents a line ($80 a day), minus 25% for taxes, you would have $300.00 a week clear. Assuming you do 200 lines an hour, 5 hours a day, 5 days a week, your pay would translate to $12.00 an hour.
IF you can maintain $12.00 an hour after taxes in an office job (sales job, at that), I don't know that the benefits offset the cost of keeping a wardrobe up, gas, meals out or items to take for your lunch, and child care, plus the hassle of being back out in the public.
To answer your question on how much income it would take for me to leave this field - Considering all the pros and cons, I personally could not afford to change careers. It would take an offer of double what I make now to make me even consider it, and there are NO jobs that pay that around here.
I wish you the best of luck with the decision.
Perhaps OP is not new at all. How could you declare MQ the greatest with nothing to compare.
I suspect MQ has a lot of people positioned for damage control on the boards these days. It was a stupid post that would be meaniningless to anyone but MQ damage control. Watch and see what is coming down the road in the next six weeks with MQ and MTs. That's why there is damage control in place and there will be for the next six months or until MQ is bought out.
Hard to compare lines from different
companies and different accounts.
Are you paid for spaces?
Headers/footers?
65 character lines?
What is percentage of ESL?
How large is the account?. Hard to get lines if you do not get the same dictator more than once a week.
Is the platform easy to work on?
Can you use an expander?
Do you have to enter demographics?
Is the account verbatim?
Can anyone compare Spellex to Stedman's and
tell me which they think is better and why. I've always used Stedman's but DOS-based. Changing jobs and now need something Windows-based.
Can't compare autocorrect to an expander (sm)....
After 20 years as MT I found a word expander, and still mad that I went so long without one! I would not consider being without one today, it adds so much to my productivity. And an Expander does much more than autocorrect does, so I personally don't think they are even comparable. For example, you can make entries bold or italicized; you have no limit on how much text you put into each entry; and most importantly, your possible choices show up on the screen as you type letters, so you can be very specific in your use. Autocorrect does just that, it makes an automatic correction, and so quickly that you might not even realize something was changed/expanded. Expanders are not cheap, but to me they are as essential as a medical dictionary!
Does anybody use ShortKeys? How does it compare with ShortHand?
I tried ShortHand but I never could get it to work like AutoCorrect, which is what I prefer. I don't like to take my fingers off the home keys to hit "Alt" or "Ctrl" or whatever.
ShortKeys is okay, but it has some limitations. I just wondered if anyone had tried both and how they compare.
TIA.
Would like to compare Meditech speed (see msg)
We home MTs have a much slower download/upload time than those working on site, and I'm trying to determine if there is something our IT department can do to speed it up for us. Since Meditech is so big with so many clients, I just can believe the rest of the country would work like we do.
What I would like to compare is:
After entering your patient information on the data entry page, how long after you hit the right arrow key to open your document for typing does it take before you are ready to type that document?
For me on the very best day it takes 20 seconds of staring at my screen before I can type, some times as much as 60 seconds.
Looking forward to comparing. TIA
Are you in a position to compare your progress SM
with others on your accounts? (If you work at home maybe invite them to email you through this site to discuss?) That's the only way to get a true picture of how you're doing so you can figure out how to fix this situation. Have a nice Thanksgiving tomorrow.
seriously, do not compare an hourly wage job with
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Store chicken doesn't even compare (nm)
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Just FYI, you should compare line count with another program (sm)
FlashCount gave me a much lower line count when I compared it to Abacus. I notified them about this and they never responded.
Fun topic: How do you compare with TV sitcom marriages???
Are you and your spouse more like.....................
A) Tim and Jill (Home Improvement)
B) Roseanne and Dan (Roseanne)
C) Howard and Marion (Happy Days)
D) AL and Peg (Married with Children)
E) Raymond and Debra (Everybody loves Raymond)
F) Steven and Elyse (Family Ties)
G) Other ____________
We are probably most like Tim and Jill but a little bit of Raymond and Debra thrown in. LOL.
Compare line count results
Hi,
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One neat function in our new MPTools is Compare Line Count results. It asks you to specify a document, and shows you the results of its multiple line counting methods, including headers/footers and formatting codes. MPTools is available as a no obligation trial, so you can download it, install it, and check things out.
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Pull up some documents and count them out each way to compare. nm
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I use the Compare feature on the tools menu.
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OMG- especially when they compare it to some kind of edible substance! *gag* nm
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You need to know the program your company is using to count so you can compare.
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I dont think you can compare the 2. Talking about 2 totally different things.
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Long distance site to compare prices. sm
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Only if you're using the track changes or compare feature. Once somebody else has the document
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It just goes to show that there is really nothing that can compare to real live transcriptionists -
nm
Totally agree with you. Often compare my work with that of a painter
You give him a job, give him a price and if he does not perform - you find another painter!
There are so many variables at play that it's dangerous to compare to others along these lines. s
I know that there have been occasions when I've had a run of one of my more familiar docs -- one for whom I have a lot of canned text and who tends to dictate with a great deal of regularity, and quickly -- and I've been able to break the 500 lph barrier, but only briefly. Otherwise, working a large hospital account as I do, with dozens of regular docs and a hundred or so others who just crop up now and then, I can't conceive of anyone averaging anything close to that ... I'm luckly to average above 250-275 lph on a typical day, and some days -- when it's resident and ESL heavy -- that can go down to 150-200.
But, again, it's really pretty silly to compare lph between different MTs unless the variables are the same.
My friends with large families shop at Walmart. I don't. I can't compare
prices or taste. These are not ignorant poor folk who don't know better shopping at Walmart. Walmart has definitely cut into the supermarkets business. Bottom line here folks, people are making Walmart successful and they keep growing. Not for nothing are people shopping at Walmart. They have to be offering something to the shopper.
Compare again and if you have a discrepancy, email me directly. We worked very hard to create this
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There is really no way to compare number of reports to a line count. The more experience you obtain
faster it will go and the lines will increase so don't give up. All of oldies have been there. Most companies require 1000 to 1200 a day, so you are not far off from that. Just keep plugging along, you will get there. Use Expanders for your most common phrases, words you find you have to look up constantly, etc. for starters to help build your speed.
come on.. you cannot compare a 2-year-old and a 15-year-old
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