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Hyphens in the wrong places

Posted By: ERMT/Oncology MT2 on 2007-04-06
In Reply to: Yes, but it is so hard to do something you know is wrong. NM - AzMT

Thank you! This is why I am so upset. I know this is wrong and my hands are tied. Not all of the QA where I am change this, but a few do. The bad part is that it is fate which determines which QA checks the work each day. Wish only the good QA people were in control.


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If acct wants hyphens, you give them hyphens. Doesn't
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Hyphens

? Should re-evaluate be hyphenated or never hyphenated.  I am from the old school that it should be hyphenated to avoid doubling vowels but in QA I was told not to hyphenate it.  Should the word penicillin be capitalized when listed in allergies and not any place else?  Thanks


hyphens

QA has told me lately do not hyphenate such words.  The reports that I type require allergies to be capitalized.  I thought that was pretty much standard.  Do you not have to capitalize yours?


hyphens

These are not words I've ever hyphenated.  When you use the o and the a as combining forms talar fibular...talofibular...there's no need for hyphens.


I have a problem with the use of hypens in that the new style book is not consistent with the on-the-job training I've had for 30 years.  I wonder where the people trained who wrote the new book of style for all of us who had English grammer 30 years ago.  Much to confusing.


Hyphens
I agree if the account wants hyphens, but they say follow the Book of Style and not all of the QA puts them in when they should not be there, just a select few who need to pick up the BOS and read it.
hyphens
Okay terrible with hyphens and always confusing to me.  Repacked and redressed are they hyphenated and can anyone give me a good rule to remember how I should know if a word like this is hyphentated.
hyphens sm
I have a thing about misplaced hyphens and apostrophes.

PER BOS: Compound modifiers
You DO hyphen BEFORE the noun, not after. So:

The patient is well developed and well nourished. (after the noun, no hyphen)

This is a well-developed well-nourished woman... (before the noun, so you DO hyphen)

Simple rule. I have an MT who really is screwy with hyphens. Examples:

I will the patient in 1-day. NOPE
I will see the patient in 2-day's time. NOPE, and this pisses me off! BOTH the hyphen and the apostrophe are wrong.

Now, I see non-distended and non-tender all the time. Is this right or wrong? Wrong as far as I am concerned, but I don't correct or count off for it because gee, it really makes no difference, no matter where it appears, it is not the above rule at all.

A QA person who THINKS she knows where every comma should or should not go is full of it. They are, as always subjective.

And most of them don't know this. It is explained in the BOS, which is where I got this, if you find I am too hard to follow. It is a grammar rule and probably something that you get slammed on, fairly or unfairly. Look it up in the BOS and make your case. If you have been an MT for a long time, YOU are probably right, not the QA person.

Is it: Your family is here or your family are here? Technically either is correct.

Marcaine 0.5% 2 mL were infused. WRONG, it is Marcaine 0.5% 2 mL was infused. Marcaine is your noun, not the 2 mL. I have been counted off for doing it right. Bet you have too.

There are plenty of these examples and there are the rules in the BOS. QA is NOT always right! I am not always right and I do it every day. Like you, I do the best I know how.

I have, over my time as an MT, questioned my skills many times. There was one time, 4 yrs ago, when I had an epiphany. I was not as good as I thought I was, plain and simple. I took a new job, had to learn a new Expander and almost start from scratch because I went from family practice to OP notes, nothing in between, I didn't pass go and I didn't collect $200! If I thought I was all that, I was wrong. It was an opportunity for me improve my skills and BE the MT I thought I was, but was not. I don't read every report, I do proof as I go along, but every couple of weeks, I will read word for word a couple of reports to check myself and make sure I am not getting sloppy, careless or losing something in the translation. We ALL get into bad habits that one company said was okay and the new company says is wrong. You have to look at it, honestly, and judge yourself carefully. It may be you need to pay more attention, but it may be that you are being harshly and incorrectly judged for work that is quite acceptable. If it is quite acceptable and they are pounding you, move on with a new, better job.

QA people sometimes think they are all that and in charge of you, and they aren't. We have MT managers to be in charge of us! They are often not as smart as they think they are, and they are not your superior in experience or skill either, not most of them.

I wish I had time to vent about being a QA, perhaps another day.
hyphens
What is up with it is that there are specific rules to placing hyphens.  Get yourself a good grammar reference book to use and you should avoid the problem.  Do you not think you have some responsibility for producing work that is correct?
wrong, wrong, wrong. work is being outsourced because of $. period. not because of unqualified MTs
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What are your thoughts on using hyphens for sm--

Calcaneo-cuboid Joint and Talof-ibularJoint---also why would joints be capitalized?


Just got put on a new account and QA marked me wrong because I did not use hyphens or a capital "J"


Therefore, yes, in your case put hyphens.
nm
I would use hyphens in the examples you provided. sm

I would put 32-year-old male, but no hyphen if it's something like *Patient is 32 years old.*  (Same with 11-pound weight loss vs pt has lost 11 pounds.)  I can't quote the rule on this offhand, but whatever the rule is, I personally I think the hyphens make it easier to read/understand. 


I agree. AHDI has a 'thing' with the hyphens, put them in here, take them out there... etc..
Anyways the newest trend is to rather leave them out, acc to BOS 3, so, if in doubt, leave them out, like the commas.

As soon one has learnt the changes, new rules come along.

It was

A 10-cm incision was made.

Now it is again

A 10 cm incision was made.
Hyphens are used because 32-year-old and 11-pound are compound modifiers. SM

A compound modifier is two or more words that act as a single modifier for a noun.


For example:


32-year-old male


11-pound weight loss


22-gauge needle


1-cm mass


 


I typed a report on the wrong patient as the doc keyed in the wrong info, SM
He later said the correct patient's name and I SWEAR to this day I made the changes but somehow the report when through without the correct patient and changes made. I still remember that incident.
Fantasia wrong??? Haven't seen the OP's CD, couldn't have been too wrong.
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It's about morality - not censorship! Right is right and wrong is wrong!
nm
seems to me a lot of places would let you sm
work just weekends as that is the hardest spot to fill.
I think a lot of places are going through this right now
It's been the same here. No work or very very slow. I'm the complainer when the work is low though, but I don't usually complain on message boards. I'm the one that's calling the company looking for more work. I'm flexible and they're good to me and keep me going. I have to appreciate that!
places have always been
doing that.  I really don't think its just starting now.  they save bucks that way. 
Does anyone know of places
that hire people offshore to do data entry work.  I work as an MT, but am thinking about moving to another country in the next 5 years.  I do not believe in offshoring medical records, so I do not consider continuing with MT as an option.  I tried doing a search on Google, but have not found much after trying different queries.  Thanks in advance for all help!
Some places still use it, I use WP5.1 every day - sm
for 1 job, though they do want to convert over, but it is what the hospital uses. It is not hard to use and I have Stedmans's spellcheck and Smartype (the original) for it and you can macro your butt off with it; and very easy to use.
Do you even have to do this? Most places just
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Other places to try

http://www.choicere.net/adapter/


http://www.dictationmall.com/ind.html


http://hthengineering.com/


http://sylvansoftware.com/accessories.htm


http://dictran.com/medical-dictation.html


 


I think most places
want somewhat of a set schedule or a certain # of hours per week, be it FT or PT. However, a lot of companies offer split shifts and very flexible scheduling. Also, all work as a TAT - turn around time, so it has to be done in a timely manner. I suppose if you work for someone locally, this could be more flexible.
Yes there are still places sm

that give I raises.  If you are dependable, do what is asked and more, don't pick and choose your work types, learn how to do everything that comes across the board and don't complain (at least to your employer-haha), there are companies that reward you accordingly. 


I realize there are companies that do not reward and you have the choice to stay or go depending on your situation.  But there still are places that will pay for good, experienced MTs and pay very well!


Yes, there are a lot of places worse off, but

there are a lot of places that are a lot better too. For the money and the resources that this country has, we do not nearly take care of business the way we should. Do you know that there are countries that do not have as much money as we do or resources, yet every citizen is entitled to healthcare by way of government paid insurance. Do you know how many people we have in the US that are uninsured? Do you know how many countries offer paid maternity leave for mothers? I could go on, but I won't. The US is a lot better than a lot of places, but we should be ashamed at how we handle things a lot of the times. America is full of a lot of greedy people, and we wonder why other countries hate us. Do you know that the cost of the president's inauguration party would have been way more than enough to armor every single vehicle that our military had? Do you know how many lives or injuries could have been saved if only the vehicles were armored better? Where are our priorities there?


Most places, you betchya
While you may have had one person train you, depending on the work you do and number of QA staff that support that work, yes. QA is usually hired as supervisory staff, which means they do QA, train, feedback, report quality issues, nonworking issues, etc. as well as being a source for you to ask for help, report issues, conflicts, etc. Usually when QA is done, all QA staff are polled for each person for any quality issues, complaints from clients, etc. to get the whole picture. While you may not view the QA staff as "bosses" per se, their word carries weight...do not be too quick to burn bridges.
Many places, google them
Ebay is probably the cheapest, that is where I got mine 8 years ago at $600, I am sure they have come down some since then.
I know of two places, but I can't remember the name of the second one.
emediamillworks.com is one of them.  I'll search my hard drive to see if I saved the address of the other company.
Probably true a lot of places
Well, things will be totally different with the new generation since it is an accepted standard that women just do everything a man does for the most part now. I unfortunately was on the cusp of this changeover and will be too old to benefit.

I don't think too many of today's kids think that "male body parts" qualify as superior in the workforce. And if you do, you need to look around, because today women even fly fighter jets.
manufacturing places in TN and KY in USA..nm
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Do wi-fi places let you plug your lap top into

nm


Some places use the SS# as the patient ID #. (nm)
.
It varies. 65 is not always the # used. Some places
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Some places will pay extra for


longer to transcribe. My company does. It does help.
Not that many places pay extra for CMT (nm)
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of all the places to put a typo!
nm
Places to work...

I can certainly sympathize with your plight.  Am forced to leave MQ because of the pay and now because of the uncertainty of having a job in a few years has come into play.  I searched and found that no one really wants to pay more than 7-9 cpl anymore.  I did find one place that will pay more.  I think it is based on experience, multiple specialties and the account itself.  I start in a week and they are starting me out at 9.5 with a review in 90 days to possibly go to 10.  There may be even 11 in my future, if I do well with this company.  So far, everything seems to be working out with this company.  They have a very strict QA period to start, but I think it will be okay once I start actually typing.  It is also strictly typing, no editing.  So real money for real pay.  I know that I did not find anyplace that paid better on the internet.  This will bring me back to what I was making with MQ before the editing came around, which will be good for me.


 


So, it takes a lot of searching and a lot of hard work to find the right fit for you.  If you would like more info on the company I found, e-mail me and I will let you know.  I have a feeling they will be getting loaded with resumes in the coming months from people from MQ.  Glad, I started before all this started.


 


Good Luck.


If Dell or places like that do not have it,
try a local computer store/repair service.
The same features are all there but in different places because
of the new ribbon. If you were productive in an older version, you would be just as productive in 2007 once you learn your way around the new layout. Almost all of my old keyboard shortcuts still work in 2007 so I don't fool with the ribbon all that much. I toggle it off most of the time because it's so huge and takes up too much room on my screen.

Are you sure your trial version isn't fully functional? Maybe your trial time has expired?

Most places can tell who has edited
a report, whether the MT, QA, or other personnel. I had a physician actually go in and change something on mine which was not correct. I saw that it had been changed and contacted my supervisor and she was able to tell the physician had changed it, not QA. So there are things in place most programs that can tell who made what changes.
If you google it, there are places you can
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Your sister hasn't been looking in the right places. (sm)
There are companies that hire coders to work at home. Tell her to try www.aviacode.com, www.lexicode.com, www.amphionmedical.com, www.btcworldwide.com, and www.peakhs.com. Tell her to subscribe to the AHIMA jobs board. They have plenty of jobs (some are in-house and some are work at home). Hope this helps.
I know what you mean. I remember when Elance and all those other places
first came out. People were bidding less than minimum wage. Really, how bored or desperate do you have to be to work for free? A legitimate business cannot compete with that. I had a virtual assistant business back then. People didn't care about quality and experience, only cost. That's why I went back to working for someone else.

The same thing with eBay. I used to sell collectibles there. People sell things so cheap that you wonder how they even cover their packaging materials and gasoline to the post office, not to mention the wholesale purchase price of the inventory.

Makes you wonder if these people have ever heard of a profit and loss statement....
Yes, I am aware but there are other places he expresses himself
on this board. I could be wrong, though, it wouldn't be the first time.
It's surprising how many places are paying 6-8 cpl
even though I know some people make more, cpl is dropping in MT, not rising. If you are not a fast typist, may want to consider doing something else.
There are real people at these places? lol nm
Thanks!
Yes there are many places without leash laws.
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It can be bought from a number of places.
I bought it for an older computer of mine from an online company. I know this can be risky, but the company had good reviews (do not remember the name). I bought Microsoft Office from Dell.
Most places pay per audio hour
Unless it is paying $60+ per audio/recorded hour, it is not worth it. I did this for awhile. It is tedious and hard to make a decent wage.