How do you know they said a Christian prayer?
Posted By: Barry Watts on 2008-04-24
In Reply to: oh yeah, tolerate everything except what is Christian - sm
It is very possible that both the patient and physician are Muslims. You are only assuming it was Christian prayer and getting your panties in a knot based on that assumption.
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Christian prayer
I know because I know the docs personally. I am a paramedic and have also worked as a nurse in several docs offices.
Here's the deal. If someone is a Christian,
and they have been saved, the will go to heaven no matter what. Just read John 3:16. That is all there is to it, simple as that. You don't think that Jesus would have made it complicated, do you? If He had, we would all be going to hell.
(Mark Twain said he didn't want to go to heaven because he didn't like harp music.)
Christian site
http://christiananswers.net/q-acb/acb-f001.html
Because, as a Christian, alcohol was not an
option for me. 
Christian too; he will change perhaps...sm
in the next life, perhaps in the next transition...but for you to think he's going to change in this life 30 years later.....I think you're dreaming, just my opinion, not etched in stone.
Also, I believe religion has nothing to do with this topic of decades-old substance abusers! I think when having discussions such as these - we all need to leave our religions out of it (for at LEAST 10 minutes) ....because again, I think we/some tend to reach for our crutches (religions, if fanatics and cannot hold a regular old conversation for 10-20 minutes, such as how my ex became).
Please don't think that I'm sitting here with my hands all neat, pretty, tidy/clean regarding these many issues in any of these many areas, either in my former family (mom/sister/dad, etc.) or the marriage that I dumped, but today I'm a different person, have learned MUCH about people and their behavior(s) and men, in particular.
You're going to do what you want to do - just whatever you do - advise making real sure your eyes and head are being completely open minded about the issue(s).
Good luck to you, it sounds like you have made your choices. Be well. Happy July 4th! 
I agree about the Christian stuff
I dont know if that was necessarily why she got booted last night, but it was very obvious that LAST WEEK when she did sing the Christian song, that the judges just didnt get it. I was so proud of her for showing her faith to the world and not worrying about it being "popular" or not.
John 3:21
I'm not a dreamer. I'm simply a Christian
woman praying for her husband and believing that he will be changed.
What does being a Christian have to do with Halloween? see message
Your Halloween Party sounds fun!!! I was thinking about doing one for my 6-year-old, having the kids dress up.
But I do have to ask, just because you are a Christian does not mean you can't celebrate Halloween. In fact, you ARE celebrating "Halloween", just on a different day. I understand the meaning of Halloween isn't the best, however, that is the day that is set aside and Halloween has been totally commercialized anyway, so it is not like I am sitting at home worshiping un-Christian like things or trying to be a witch. Do you see what I mean? I am not trying to be mean, I too am a Christian, but we do take the kids out on Halloween.
You know, good question. I really don't know. I have been a Christian for sm
10 years. Before that, I LOVED Halloween and would go trick or treating right along there with all the devils and everything! j/k Then, met my husband who has been a Christian all his life, attended Baptist churches, and he told me that they just don't celebrate it at all. Couldn't give me a clear-cut reason why...so, we get married and for 4 years (before we had kids) we didn't participate in Halloween. I would get so mad at him because he would get mad at me for spending 20.00 on Halloween candy and then he wouldn't let me pass it out! He'd turn the outside lights off, but if the kids came anyway he'd let me pass out candy. Then we had kids and for a few years he still wouldn't let me celebrate. It wasn't until his sister 3 years ago invited us trick or treating (and he didn't want my kids to dress up!). But, they had minimal costumes on and they were in absolute AWE of Halloween. The lights, the CANDY, the trick or treating.
Fast forward to today. He's "okay" with it, but still clearly uncomfortable. You don't understand, I have been absolutely mesmerized by the whole "Martha Stewart," "Katie Brown" entertaining thing since my late teens, early 20s. Obesessed. My first year of marriage, my husband was at work and I watched the very first Martha Stewart when she went and decorated the White House (an evening special). I cried during the whole thing. I thought everything she did was absolutely breathtaking. I LOVED her creativity, the colors, everything. I swore that I would have "that kind of life some day." I wanted it ALL. The cheesy cupcakes, the Pottery Barn decor, all of it. I learned to cross stitch, woodwork, paint, stencil, flower arrange, you name it, I can pretty much do it. I can lay tile. That's one I haven't gotten down yet.
So, now that you my entire sad life story, you know where all of this partying comes from. I can linger for HOURS over Southern Living magazines, Southern Living At Home magazines. My home pretty much shows it. I have good taste, but that's inbred in me.
A designer once told me that I was a Tuscany, French-Country person....WHATEVER! Just give me some hot chocolate, 5 Southern Living magazines, and a babysitter, and I could die right there.
So, my motto: JUST PARTY WITH A PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Witch
I'm a Christian, I don't celebrate Halloween but
I do have a harvest carnival for my friends kids. They love it and every year it's bigger than the year before.
Halloween has Christian origin. Please sm
Please see the link below.
Christian chat room
Is there any christian chat rooms for medical transcriptionists? I thought I saw one about a month ago and now I cannot remember the name of it.
Thanks, I hope something comes up / Christian Troy?
Just Google his name (Julian McMahon) and a lot of sites come up. I have a lot of pics of him saved on my computer. My secret obsession. LOL.
oh yeah, tolerate everything except what is Christian
FYI, before my last major surgery, i asked my surgeon if he was a praying man. I am sure you are clueless as to the why -- but for those who DO believe in the Almighty, the why is well understood. and why pray tell (pun intended) are you looking for a RULE ???? How about a rule to tolerate Christianity the way we are asked to tolerate every other belief system?
Don't you feel guilty for being a white Christian?
Geez, you're responsible for everything that's wrong with this country - don't you know that?
That's what the sentiment in this country is anyway. You're only allowed to diss someone's culture, language, religion, etc. if they are of European Caucasian origin.
We have nothing to feel guilty about. If other cultures are jealous or resentful of us, that's their issue to deal with. We had nothing to do with their feelings of inadequacy for whatever reason they may have them.
I'm sick of having to coddle minorities who clearly hate us anyway.
So condescending and so insulting.
Private Christian school is where my kids go.
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THANK YOU. It is becoming increasingly hard these days to be a Christian with this idea of
every religion is okay and we can all be one attitude. They make us sound like just because we believe the truth and say there is only one God and one way to Heaven (Jesus) that we are judgmental, prejudice and closed-minded to diversity.
Rosa Parks was also a God fearing Christian woman!
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Prayer
I how well I know the pain of grief. I will pray for your friends
prayer
He is going on my church prayer line now too!
prayer
 Praying for your requests also. I also had a very dear friend with ovarian cancer; seems that is something is pretty far along before the symptoms start, or, it was in her case. Bless you!
Prayer
Please rush me a photograph of the child please send me an email for my address etc.
believer
saying a prayer for you
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It is that "reborn Christian" thing where they go overboard and make new rules LOL
Im Wiccan...I love this season and there is always a festival in our home at every season celebrating nature!!
Prayer for 4-year-old boy
I just did pray for him. Please let us know how he is doing, so we can see the result of our prayers.
Thanks.
Lynn
Nice. Will say a prayer for you both.
and Happy Easter to you and yours. You have your hearts in the Right Place. We have lots to be thankful for.
I do not think her issue was with prayer...
I believe what she meant was that she had never heard this dictated before; therefore, she was questioning it. She was not questioning whether it is okay for a physician to pray with his patient.
Wow---chill out everyone! OP said nothing against prayer or
it was allowed in a report.
It's no different than asking if typing someone "makes her money on her back" is appropriate. It's not the subject itself---it's whether or not it should be in a medical document because it's not medical. My answer is yes...if the doc dictates it then you put it in. There have been plenty of things over the years I would've left it, but you just put it in.
There's no reason for these attacks on her though...she didn't say anything was wrong with prayer. She didn't say she didn't tolerate anything Christian.
Everyone is WAY, WAY to defensive on this. She could very well be Christian herself, but you don't know that because she didn't say one way or another and didn't say it was good or bad.
Prayer mention
Why is it that no one has any questions as to the mention of abortions or homosexuality or selling sex in any way, but we question a mention of prayer. Christians are supposed to be tolerant of freedom of speech but we no longer have it it seems. We are supposed to accept differences in cultures but we are not allowed to pray in school openly, but homosexuals for example can kiss and hold hands in schools. I am a very tolerant person I just wonder why things like prayer are not tolerated but rather some kind of violation or "no way" type of thought to others who may not believe. And before anyone blasts me I have friends that are very dear to my heart that are gay both female and male, and have atheist and pagan friends. I believe that we all have the right to believe the way we do and express ourselves freely. I am only sorry that we are looking for "rules" to avoid the mention of prayer.
I see nothing wrong with prayer...sm
If a doctor prays with a patient then I think that is fine if the patient is okay with it. As MTs it is our job to type whatever they dictate. So if they dictate about praying we should just type it and not worry about it. It is a job.
Why shouldn't it be part of the report. It is the doctor's report for that patient. If the patient is okay with it it is not for you as the MT, in my opinion, to decide hey this doesn't belong here. The doctor wouldn't have dictated it if he didn't want it in the report. And I believe when a doctor dictates something it is your job to type it. Don't ask questions, just type, unless it is something you have been trained not to type.
I say even if you don't agree with it and if you don't that by all means is your right as an American citizen. But if he wants it in the report just put it and be done with it.
A Prayer for the New Year
As the dawn breaks on a new year, let us give thanks for all we hold dear: our health, our family and our friends.
Let us release our grudges, our anger and our pains, for these are nothing but binding chains. Let us live each day in the most loving ways, the God-conscious way. Let us serve all who are in need, regardless of race, color or creed.
Let us keep God of our own understanding in our hearts and to chant God’s name each day. Let us lead the world from darkness to light, from falsehood to truth and from wrong to right.
Let us remember that we are all one, embracing all, discriminating against none.
May your year be filled with peace, prosperity and love. May God's blessings shower upon you and bestow upon each of you a bright, healthy and peaceful new year.
URGENT PRAYER REQUEST
Please pray for our little dog, Fluffy, who is in the hospital right now and on oxygen. We just came from there and he is having a lot of difficulty breathing. He has swelling on his spinal cord and they are unable to do additional testing to find out why because of this complication. Please everyone say a prayer for him that his breathing stabilizes and they can find out what the problem is.
Thank you and God Bless
Thanks to everyone for the advice and offer of prayer - sm
How ironic is this. S works in a mental health unit but they don't see children. The psychologist that Tater does see works with children but I think her 20+ years of experience is missing this particular type of behavior counseling.
Still hoping I will hear back from this doctor I wrote to last night to see if she has any advice to offer too.
Danny's on my prayer list
I'm so sorry to hear this happened. How tragic. I will keep Danny and his family and you -his good friend - in my prayers. Best of wishes to all of you.
I am glad you are doing well. Prayer does work
Mention of prayer in reports
I have never run across this problem in the past. I have a provider stating "we took a few minutes to lift everything up in prayer." My gut says NO WAY. But, I can't find a rule to support that. HELP!
mention of prayer in reports
As mentioned everyone has the right to believe what they want - even Christians. There are several surgeons in this town who pray before beginning surgery. I think it is great, both ways for them and the patient.
Post on prayer board ???
Is that for real? Is it someone here or was that a fwd that was posted? A few things jumped out at me as being inconsistent with the situation presented.
No magazine. It's from me. You're first on the prayer list though!
:)
The auesome power of prayer at work
once again! Sorta puts all our little gripes in perspective.
putting that precious little guy on my prayer chains right now! nm
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It reads like a response to a prayer request.
I will keep your thoughts in mind...
What is wrong with prayer, and what rule are you talking about?
Many people have different beliefs and it is not just Christians who pray. I would greatly respect any doctor, no matter what his religious beliefs, who takes a moment to acknowledge the importance of the task before him and that he can use a little help from above. We humans, no matter how hard we try, are imperfect. Why are you so offended by someone who prays? And as for a rule ... maybe you are thinking about prayer in schools that is not allowed.
Let me guess ... you are not offended by the doctor who cusses up a storm in his reports, or are you looking up rules for that one too!
For those that now the power of prayer, please pray for a friend whose 4-year-old son is in the sm
hospital with bleeding on the brain. She is employed in the MT field and really needs our support right now. TIA.
question, but prayer shouldn't be a problem in dictation.
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original poster of prayer sentence information
I am the originator of the post on typing a sentence regarding praying with a patient. I don't care that he did it one way or the other. My concern was that I did not believe that it should be part of a dictated medical report. We don't add patient names. We carefully word sentences so that the patient is not denigrated in the process and patient care not impacted. This is not relative to patient care, in my opinion. I have been doing this job a long time and never had anything like that mentioned in a note before now. Not at hospitals with definite religious affiliations. Not when typing for a physician and his staff that regularly do it. So, I asked a question here. Based on the responses, it will be the last time I do. Yes, I do "question' everything I haven't typed before by verifying the word, disease, medication, etc.
May God bless the miners trapped in West Virginia. There is power in prayer. Let's rally MTs!
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