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Holloway & Twitty Families

Posted By: Old TM on 2005-07-06
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I feel sorry for both of the families, but just because you want an answer doesn't make people guility because you think they are. Women disappear in the US ALL THE TIME and no one cares because they arent' young, blonde, and come from money. It doesn't make their lives less than Holloway's. She used bad judgment, her parents used bad judgment. Does anyone know of a 17-year-old girl who behaves "correctly" in an atmosphere like Aruba? They let their daughter go to a "foreign country" unchaperoned. They used bad judgment and now they are looking for someone to point a finger at to take the guilt off their backs. Holloway's mother has no right to throw a temper tantrum about the Aruban system. She's not in Kansas anymore!!! Said to say, but she needs to come to grips with reality.


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holloway and twitty famillies
TO old TM, who is to say that natalle holloway used bad judgement, where you there? if you followed the story from the beginning, you would have known that there were chaperoned in that foreign country. I don't believe that her parent used bad judgement at all. Ana I think beth twitty has every right to point a finger, when all she is getting is a bunch of lies from the arubans, from day one.
Holloway
I agree with girls getting away from home and acting stupid. Just look at the video clips of the girls on spring break in the US and mom and dad think all they are doing is lying sunning on the beach somewhere. I don't think Natalie was that kind of dumb, but all it takes is one time. I was raised in Ft. Lauderdale and my friends and I used to spend time just walking the strip by the Elbo Room and Omar's just to see the guys. I went to church every Sunday, never said boo in school and never misbehaved. But, I got some attention from a good looking guy and his friends and my friends and we all wound up in their car. I was raped. I never reported it. It would have devastated my parents. Thankfully, I never got pregnant. You better believe my daughters heard the truth from me about spring break and graduation cruises. I knew better, but I just used bad, bad judgment. It could have been worse. I thank God it wasn't. So, I can look at both sides of the Aruba story. I'm sorry for the mother, but I remeber the stupidity of a 17-year-old very well.
The Holloway tragedy.
I so admire Beth Holloway Twitty.  I could not get on the politcal board.  My problem is this; in the area in which I live, a little black girl was taken into the ER, and although she has had very little press, the docs already said she was dead for 14 hours at least, she has not gotten one bit of press.  What is wrong with this country when a white girl, (obviously upper-middle class) is missing and it gets such press, and a little black girl goes into the ER, already 14 hours dead at least and not one bit of press?  By the way, I am white and prejudiced but I am beginning to see why black people have an attitude.
holloway and prejudice

Thank you for your insightful post.  Gosh..will we ever get it right?? In my life time?  I sure hope so.. 


Josh Holloway ("Sawyer" on Lost) and
George Clooney can still make me looney -- though we're all getting older ...
Speaking of Aruba and Natalle Holloway from post below
It looks like the Arubans are forming a protest of their own who are offended at Mrs. Twitty and the media reporting they are not conducting a proper investigation and their system is bad while America's system of law and order allowed the sex offenders kill children in Florida and Idaho.  The Aruban people have a point you know.  One news person interviewed protestors and a very literate gentleman suggested Mrs. Twitty was under Aruban law and she should respect that or go home.  In a short statement Mrs. Twitty seems to be backtracking after the protests after Mrs. Twitty stated the legal system allowed criminals (the two brothers) to go free and walk among its citizens and tourists.  It's about time these people speak out when Americans come over and criticize their government without a clue how it works or if it is working.
Mrs. Twitty is used to getting her way
and lovin the spotlight.
Mrs. Twitty
To all of you who are so judgmental of this woman, tell me, at what point do you pack it up and go home, leaving your daughter behind, God knows where.  Would you be able to get the thought out of your mind that she is alive somewhere and wonders why you stopped looking for her?
Not Mrs. Twitty
Amen - well said, and is EXACTLY the way it was in my house. You live here, I pay for the food, I pay for the roof over your head, I pay for your clothes, you damn well better follow my rules because this is MY house. There was no wearing of trashy clothes. I raised 3 by myself. No pregnancies, no drugs, good kids, now responsible parents all of them, and raising their children the same way, except all of them are raising their children in the church which I didn't because I worked on Sundays. They all were offered the $ value of a cruise and took the money for down payments on cars. And yet, as tight as I raised my kids, I wondered where in the heck did they get their brains at times. I let my children go when they were comfortable going. None of them have come back home because it "didn't work out". They have all been married over 15 years. You have to have faith in your children but that doesn't mean you need to be blind and give them opportunities to misbehave like that.
Mrs. Twitty
God forbid, it has to be horrible, but the country can't turn itself inside out and upside down because of her daughter's disappearance. SHE made the mistake of allowing her daughter to do this. A 17 and 18 year old is not an adult. Its been 36 (?) days. Sooner or later, you have to accept the reality that you may never know, instead of staying there demanding and demanding and go home to start mending. She is not the only mother that this has happened to whether in Aruba or other places. They move on, she needs to move on too.
Twitty, etc
None of you are paying attention. College and going into a well-known pick-up bar in another country at 2 a.m. by a teenager, by yourself are two different things. You can't keep your children protected all the time. College doesn't even come into play here. Parents NEED to instill values and NEED to look at ramifications and most of all, they need to understand that as soon as an uneducated child gets out of sight, they are going to cross the line. I would bet my last dollar that Natalee has acted up away from her parents before. This time, she was not so lucky. Sometimes I wonder what comic strips you people read. Who said anything about college? I SAID what kind of parent allows a 17-year-old girl on an unsupervised trip to a known "fast" island???? Do ya get it now?????
U mean there are OTHER dysfunctional families out there?
LOL. I thot it wuz just mine!
the miners' families in WV.........nm
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Adivse for Ms. Twitty
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Here she is demanding that the Aruban and Dutch governments do this, do that, etc., yet, there was Shasta Groene's father not demanding anything like that from his own country, just quietly going about his business and doing what he could and probably doing a lot of praying. She's acting like a spoiled person. I feel very sorry for her and the loss is probably devastating, but you are in another country and when in Rome, ....... She is coming off as the very arrogant, demanding, and spoiled rotten American that we have all become, according to other countries. She is not helping the situation by her actions at all. She should follow your advice.
some families drink to deal with each other
There is a lot going on underneath the scenes, a lot of hurt feelings not dealt with, a lot of hostility, past differences not completely resolved.  All together in one house, the roof would fly off with all the pent up tension.  Alcohol smooths it out. 
And convenient. Just like the commercial says ' Some families
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what does Mr. Jug Twitty do for a living? And what about Jar, his brother.

They are all staying in Aruba.  How can they take off of work indefinitely even if they aren't wealthy and took a second mortgage on their house. 


PS:  I doubt very much a resort town is giving away free services to these people and their entourage.  This is how a resort makes money you know.  Especially when you are there criticizing their government and call citizens criminal who have been released from jail for lack of evidence.


This is HEARSAY from media and/or Mrs. Twitty.
You all quote media as if it should be written in stone.  Obviously not enough credibility to hold this guy in jail for suspicion.
Used to love that... in fact that is my families joke about me! nm
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I think the majority of families in America are dysfunctional nowadays!
I have yet to find or meet a functional family.

My little family of 4, meaning me, my husband and 2 children are functional, but when you add in my side of the family, 5 siblings, and his side of the family 5 siblings, it becomes totally dysfunctional. Go figure!

I can only do the best with my own little family of 4 and keep us a functional, caring, productive family giving back to society in a positive meaningful way. I can not control the siblings or extended cousins, etc.

It is my goal to keep my little family of 4 functionally intact forever!
My sympathy was reserved for the women and families they betrayed. sm
I felt no sympathy for the men at all. 
Most families struggle. This is when you make too much for food stamps, but need help and sm
besides, volunteering in your community is a GOOD THING.  You can volunteer, pay for the box and give to a family who is in need.  Many, many people did that.  An older person who is on a fixed income and who can't get food stamps would likely welcome a box on a monthly basis.  This time of year, all the food banks around the country are in need because it is not a holiday, so few give and the need is greater every month.  It doesn't have to be for your family.
Why I believe Mrs. Twitty is writing the soap opera and starring in it too!

Promoting her little dream of a soap opera with press conferences with her super glossy eyeshadow and false eyelashes.  Sweet.  How many opportunities does Mrs. Twitty get to get all this attention?  Might as well milk it.


I pray that Mrs. Twitty gets off the TV, washes the makeup off and goes out looking for her daughter
instead of playing private detective and second-guessing the people who are actually doing something. She is a nut case. Maybe Natalee is missing on purpose based on what I have seen of her mother, the DIVA. Mrs. Twitty, you are acting nit-witty and I pray you go about the business of grieving for your daughter instead of the roles you have chosen to play for the past few weeks as judge and jury of how a country should run an investigation into your daughter's disappearance.
My friends with large families shop at Walmart. I don't. I can't compare
prices or taste. These are not ignorant poor folk who don't know better shopping at Walmart. Walmart has definitely cut into the supermarkets business. Bottom line here folks, people are making Walmart successful and they keep growing. Not for nothing are people shopping at Walmart. They have to be offering something to the shopper.
Relief from this coal miner's daughter for all of those families and prayers for the one fallen.
Coal miners are a rare breed. Thank God these were saved.