Hey, speak for yourself (sm)
Posted By: Send the ESLs my way on 2005-07-06
In Reply to: OUTSOURCING PLAN... - old grandma
My accounts are 95% ESL. I love them. I can do them. It's job security, thanks to the MTs who can't or won't do them. As long as I can hear them and the technical quality is there, I welcome the ESL challenge!
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of course they speak english, with an accent but they speak British-English quite well.
And I can't speak Indian so I guess they have an edge don't they?
SPEAK CLEARLY!
I'm lost as to why doctors can not just speak more clearly. I know it is possible, I have many doctors who do it. I am only 25, and I am going to be gray by the time I am 30.
PLS DO SPEAK CLEARLY
My god. i know that its hard to have so many patients, its also hard to transcribe if you cant speak clearly, for the doctors that can talk more fluent thank you very much.
I would not speak
or respond to any job posting that used a hotmail address. ANY reputable company will have professional email set up that uses their company name, such as recruiter@reputablecompany.com.
Did he speak to you about it?
nm
Speak for yourself
Geez!
You cannot speak for everyone!!
http://www.advanceweb.com/
Hey, speak for yourself...
And her opinions in posts. She put in ample dues in this profession and I for one am delighted that she showed up here to post and keep her fingers on the pulse of the MT biz. I think Ella pretty much rocks.
Pay the naysayers no mind, Ella...You keep posting, girlfriend, because I'm sure I'm not the only one who respects your contribution to the profession and your continued input.
And, geez, she was only pointing out that there are good and bad in EVERY race, nothing wrong with that perspective, especially since IMO it's correct.
I sympathize with you with the ESLs (just finished a 15-minute report dictated by a VERY Chinese dictator which has me ready to beat my head into my monitor, lol!), but don't take it out on Ella. Without the blood, sweat and tears of MTs like Ella, where we would all be today?
These ESL's speak more than their own language, sm
many are fluent in several languages. They also pay income taxes at the same rate as USA-born doctors. Until you can speak their language as well as they can speak ours, have some compassion for their efforts, and be glad that you have a job. There are ESLs wherever you go. Better get used to it. Or better yet, why don't you travel to a country where you don't speak the language. It might humble you a bit when you see how difficult it is.
you speak your mind ....
with facts and not with vicious attacks and I like that quality in people. What you say makes sense and I appreciate reading your opinion. But I did not post anything with the intentions of warning someone away but rather they research certain things before accepting a position with not just a particular transcription service or company but with any prospective employer and decide for themselves what is right for them.
I think I did not speak clearly about the just showing up MTs
If a company hires only ICs, then they cannot expect them to work except for the times they want.
Typing less than 100 lines a day is not pocketchange because of the pay.
so, did he speak at the convention?
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If you continue to speak to me
like that I will ban you from my site. Now, I'm trying to relate to you guys by being honest. You should appreciate that.
Speak for yourself. I want and need to know my mistakes.
I'm sure there are those who get offended but not all are that way.
I speak from experience
I had a dog who had to have surgery and I asked for the "Buster" collar. They said they had a different "new and improved kind" and put it on him. Well, he got out of it numerous times with three trips back to the vet's office with ripped-out sutures and even after leaving him there all night (when they came in the next morning, he was out of the collar and had the sutures ripped out), I FINALLY got the Buster collar I asked for as they finally believed me. Don't take the collar off-- you will be sorry.
speak for your own family!
My family loves our pets. I have three children and four dogs and two cats and two birds. Our family loves each of our pets like they are a member of this family because they are!!!!! My husband and I treat them like they are also our children. They are very well behaved and SOOOO much fun.
Might I add that I speak from the heart,
literally, as I'm right there with ya at the bottom of the totem pole, so you are not alone.
I would call and ask to speak with the
manager and report it anonymously, if you can block your number somehow, absolutely! I know if I was her manager, I would definitely want to know, especially since you mention this is a larger national service. Perhaps that's WHY they're posting for jobs *all the time*? How scary.
I can't speak for any other company, but
for my particular situation, its a trickle down effect. QA is only as good as the layer above us. Nothing we can do about it anymore than the MTs can. Basically, I guess I'm saying we're on an even rung on the food chain - and all answer to those above!
Speak for yourself. This seasoned MT can't do
nm
This is what I will suggest so we can all speak up.
On one day, say May 1, every MT that reads this sends a letter to the Editor of their local newspaper calling attention to the fact that protected medical information may be going overseas, complete with SSNs. If people don't start becoming involved in protecting their own information, then they don't know or maybe even don't care, but I think many will start to ask questions. But I could be wrong.
Obviously I can't speak for ALL ER docs
and perhaps your son's exam was as dictated, but I know from personal experience that they often "fill in" stuff on the reports.
Can't speak to QA, but SR editing...SM
My incipient carpal problems that required splints and even days off now and then totally went away and stayed away with mostly editing and light transcription. BTW, if efficient with SR editing, should top $20/hour easily and nicely (but can't advise reading out loud, which would slow down production tremendously if I were doing it--different strokes).
can't speak for the rest of them
I know one MTSO who was going to put on an ad and has backed off with what has been going on with the ownership of the board. I think it's just like the number of postings being down - people are on here but are hesitating because they're not sure if everything is okay. I think if you give it a little more time you'll see more and more ads come back on as people relax about the board again.
Don't speak for all, but it would be hard
to work in a place with people "coming and going" if you are listening to dictation. I wouldn't be doing work in an airport, STarbucks, or whatever.
Sometimes, when they let an Indian speak
on TV, you might have noticed that Indians pronounce 'that' as 'dat'.
I know NOTHING about Ebonics, have never heard it.
Is saying 'I aks' instead of 'I ask' also Ebonics?
If only they would dictate/speak - sm
as clearly as they did when going for their interview for medical school or hospital position. If they spoke then they way they dictate now - they'd never have gotten into school or gotten their MD jobs -- so WE KNOW that THEY KNOW how to speak intelligibly when they want to; they just don't think we're worth the effort.
I appreciate and respect the ESL who puts forth an honest effort to be understood, over someone (usually English as FIRST language) slurring at 78 rpm, going through the HPI/PMH with ..ah, ... um ... (2 words) ... er ... (1 word) ....uh, ...(2 minutes pause) ... uh...uh... and then speed-racing through meds, labs, and whenever reading diagnostic reports verbatim .. so everyone knows that they know how to say those long words and which they wouldn't be able to come up with on their own. My pet peeve?? We're BORN knowing how to spell any doc's name, just because THEY know how: i.e, ."CC to Dr. Kryswkowskizhausen and then spells J-O-N-E-S.
Speak for yourself. I have fabulous conditions
with my present employer and have had the entire 3 years I've been there.
Conditions are NOT deplorable for all MTs -- only when you accept those conditions are they present.
While we don't need to assume responsibility for turnover costs, it's no wonder companies don't want to give some the time of day. They want MTs who have a proven track record of dedicated length of service, production, and quality and who are interested in doing that again.
It DOES cost to hire -- and that does NOT mean necessarily the actual training of an experienced MT but includes HR personnal to interview/process you, the time others have to cover while you learn your accounts, etc.
If you're a responsible person at all, you'd have a better attitude than the one you just posted.
Well...I have the experience you speak of and I just asked if there
were any positions as an Editor open and I am now an editor. But for the most part, I agree with the other poster...LOL.
When I speak of being in the psych ward
I only say that because this decision I need to make about what to do has been driving me crazy. All the "I should do this, and I should do thats" The What if this and What if that...My head is in a tailspin.
At least most of them speak English as a first language, eh.
Except the Francophones/Quebecois. Plus, they're not undercutting us on wages.
Pas DE probleme!
If you don't speak on a daily basis . . .
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We speak several times daily.
Even right now while he's overseas on a business trip, we make time for a couple daily phone calls.
(continued) - you need to speak to a professional
to make sure it's done properly and there are no surprises later!
Good luck!
to dictate if you cannot speak English.
Sorry to gripe about this, as I know it comes with this industry, but I just transcribed (ha) a doctor, who sounded like this......
ditdada..ditditdadada..ummm, aaahh, shimaprazole, shinequapam, ditdootoday, patient no feel no good...ditditdazow. I quit.
I speak from first hand knowledge...
and I never said she didn't love the boy, but rather not in the traditional sense. You know the kind where you actually take care of your kids. I won't blast all that on the internet. I'm just saying though that I only speak from what was actually done, not by assuming something heard through the media.
I am updating my resume as we speak.
Decided not to wait any longer. I can't afford to sit here either. Today is horribly slow. Thanks to those who responded.
EXACTLY! Or because you speak the truth & the supes (nm)
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In my RA appts. They type as I speak.
They ask the questions to fit their little template there on the computer and then they type away. This is how it's been done since I have been going there for two years now. They (nurse, PA, rheumatologist, etc.) type really fast. So.....
Most of them can't speak correct English,
much less type it.
This "list" you speak of is really unfair though (sm)
There are always two sides to any story. And, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been through this in one way or another but....
I've been an MT for 18 years now. About 10 years ago my life was a mess and I was dealing with some substance abuse issues (alcohol). I was never fired from any job because I always quit before it came to that, but I did burn many bridges in the local area. The quality of my work was never called into question, it was always attendance issues.
I'm just saying some people do grow up and change. I did. But I understand weeding out good MTs from not so good ones isn't necessarily an easy job either.
No ma'am I speak American.
It's a dialect, not a language. As for my ancestors, I have traced my heritage to Ireland, Czech Republic, and Poland. I'm well aware of my roots. But I don't live in those countries, I live here. I wouldn't move somewhere I couldn't understand or be understood.
It sounds to me like you're one of the bleeding heart liberals, who wants to keep letting more in when we can't take care of the ones we have. Do you enjoy your work being sent overseas to people who can't understand "English"? Do you enjoy making a lot less per line because of that?
I feel sorry for you and your ignorant bliss of what this country is becoming. I'm pretty sure you're outnumbered on this board, too. You have taken a comment out of context to suit your own soapbox. My point was, if they want to offshore work, why not send them their own dictators? There are hundreds on this board everyday complaining about the ESL's - hence the acronym - and yet I see nothing from the "cat" to those commenters.
Maybe you just wanted someone to fight with today. Signing off - have no time for comments like yours!
Tad immature? - does not speak English.
NM
They're afraid to speak up for the MTs...
Too many companies are so desperate to get the accounts, they are afraid to speak up and tell the hospitals/clinics, etc., they have to clean up their act when dictating. They need to set in place strong guidelines for dictating, no mush mouth, kids screaming in the back, no cell phones or talking to others or be in a room where others are talking, etc. They're as afraid to speak up as the individuals in the hospitals are afraid to say anything to the docs. Well, if they want their work done properly, they should stand up for us. I've had this happen in hospitals where administration was scared to death of offending a particular couple of "high admitting" physicians, big money makers for the hospital. They just expected us to "deal" with it and then the docs complained LOUDLY about blanks. Maybe if someone had the b***s to say something direct and stop treating these physicians as if they're gods, they might get the picture.
and you know all of the newbies in this industry to speak for them???
I have been in this industry for 10 years and I love it just the same as when I started...
"just not right"... can't let emotions speak
As I was re-reading the letter because I really like it, we can't let emotions get in the way. You think polititions have morals? let's be serious. I think just stating the facts of why this is not in the United States' best interest is the best way to go. Basically the legal ramifications and the facts you mentioned about the English Language, etc. are all good points
Can't speak for "most" companies,
but TRS (which has now merged with Transcend) has QA people on instant messenger. One of them bailed me out just about an hour ago, in fact. :)
I can only speak for the company I work for
but they specifically prohibit transmitting via a nonsecured network, i.e., WiFi. That is what a lot of people seem to be so okay with.
i would contact the office manager or ask to speak to doc himself sm
a lot of times it is the office staff doing the accounting/billing telling you when they will issue refund, etc. dentist is probably not even aware. i would make him aware and/or office manager aware and i bet they get your check right out.
Those tourists you speak of were still trapped as of last night so
their money did NOT buy them a rescue either. They are in no better and no worse shape than anyone else trapped in the city.
Sadly, this affected everyone there, no matter what kind of money they did or did not have.
Speak for yourself. Her books go in the round file
has done nothing for transcription as far as I can see.
I learned proper grammar in school. I learned how to type in typing class. I follow the directions and policies of the company I'm working for at any given time.
That's about all a person needs. The world sure doesn't need Tessier. After all these years what did she ever do for MT?
I know I have no love lost for AAMT and those people. They are drawing a salary for what?? Why am I sitting here making less in 2005 than I did in 1995? And I am being offered even less on MQ's new platform?
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