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Heh ... twice the price cuz they're an AAMT business partner! - nm

Posted By: Lady Parker-Huffington on 2005-11-02
In Reply to: Save yourself some $$ - Speedtype and Shorthand are the exact same program. - Get Shorthand. nm




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I think you're the one who needs to get out of the business.
or at least get out of the house and make some friends in the real world. You're losing it fast.
If you're not a business, but an IC...sm
you can use your SSN.  If you do have a business license, it's how you set it up in the beginning...I have a business, but it is not incorporated or anything like that and I use my SSN. 
The price of gasoline is reflected in the price of goods. Having said that, one item
higher, MOMENTARILY, than Walmart, does not really make a case against Walmart. You want to make Walmart a bad guy because they don't have a shopper out there matching the grocery stores' price so be it. But MOST people I know shop at Walmart for lower groceries prices AS A WHOLE, and that is what makes Walmart successful. So buy your cheaper Bounty towels at your grocery store if that makes you happy. Your grocery store HAS TO MAKE MONEY and they will get you on something else. It is the retail law. Walmart will not be successful with higher prices than the grocery store. They aim to succeed. They have been sucessful in undercutting other stores. Your Bounty towels will not bring down the Walmart empire but it may cause you to shop at your grocery store where they will charge you more on other items to stay in business. Quit the knee-jerk responses. If you don't like Walmart and don't want to shop there that's all well and good. If you don't shop there because of Bounty towels, well that's just crazy.
you are still an IC when you're a business, you stop being an IC when...sm
you incorporate. Then you become an employee of your corporation. Most home based businesses don't require a business license. Since you aren't having customers traipse in and out, nobody really cares. No advantage to getting a tax free ID since you aren't collecting sales tax. The only thing you really should do when you get your own account is to set up a business checking account with a credit card attached to it. The physician office should make the invoice check out to your business, not you. The separate account simplifies bookkeeping and keeps the IRS happy. No need to really incorporate until you are making about $50K a year. Then you might want to think about it to save on the SS taxes.  If you do get your own account, find a CPA that you can talk to (i.e. approachable). There are self employment IRA's etc that you will want to take advantage of. As far as getting up enough nerve to walk into the office, I call it "the $10,000 question." All you need is one acccount on your own to make an additional profit of $10,000 over what you are making now. But the only people who get paid that are the ones who get up enough nerve to walk into the doctors' offices. Are you one of them?
It's none of their business why you're leaving.
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Yup, they're about to lose my business. NM
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If you don't know what a typo is, you're in the wrong business.
This is a message board, not a paid document.
No matter what type of business you're in, there does -
come a time when you have to draw the line somewhere. It seems like a no-brainer that if the price for transcription was X amount of dollars with letterhead provided by the client, then it would be X amount MORE with letterhead provided by the service. Still I would imagine she panicked a little, fearing she'd lose the account if she stood her ground about a separate rate for providing the paper. Knowing how expensive paper is, I still have trouble seeing how she could just let it slide in the beginning.

In her position, having allowed him to cheat her for a certain amount of time, what I would do next is give him notice that next month (or next week, or whatever), due to the overhead costs of supplying paper for the account, she could no longer do it at the old price, and then quote the new price.

If she gets 'replaced', she'd have to figure that it was going to happen sooner or later anyway, and if he was that cheap, there were probably other 'surprises' down the pike, as well. So probably good riddance. It might seem like a better deal to keep that account and let the guy keep cheating her like that, but then again, a better account is probably just around the corner. OR --- he could start to take her seriously when she sticks to her guns and says she has to raise her price. She has to make a living, too, right? OR --- he could go with someone else for a while, realize he had a good thing when he was using her service, and come crawling back. At that point, she could probably charge him almost anything she wanted, within reason of course, and he'd gladly pay it.

I had a non-MT, service-type business a number of years ago, and some of my BEST clients were the ones who left in a huff when I had the 'audacity' to raise my prices along with the rise in overhead, only to come back on their hands and knees a few weeks or months later. Some of them became the most generous tippers, too. It was funny how male colleagues of mine in the exact same business were rarely, if ever, questioned when it came to their charges for services rendered. Yet as a female, it was almost expected that if the client tried to get me to provide the same service for less, that I wouldn't stand up for myself and would just accept it because I was a female.

Until there is an equal double-standard to go along with the perception that women's work is worth less than men's, and we can pay half what men pay at the gas pumps and in the grocery stores due to our gender, then we shouldn't have to simply settle for less than they would get for the same job, either. And you just KNOW that if medical transcription had evolved into a 'men's' profession instead of a 'women's' profession, it would most likely be a good, high-paying white-collar job that they would have fought long and hard to prevent from being offshored. We just stood there and allowed the hospitals to reduce it to about the same level as janitorial work, or lower.

If a woman running an independent MT business such as this woman is STILL doesn't want to do things like give clients the bad news when a price hike is in order, why not simply borrow a strong male voice to make those calls? And to have a little spiel on the voicemail system, so that it SOUNDS like the system is owned and run by a man? If the client believed a man owned the business and was making those kinds of decisions, I bet she'd be able to command a higher price for her services all around, not just when supplying the letterhead. Something to think about!
I've heard with Dell if you tell them you're a business,
you'll get someone from the US.  I already have two HPs but tried it anyway.  I used to say home or home office but said I use it for business and still got someone from India but he spoke very, very good English compared to some I've spoken to in the past.
AAMT ADHI orwhatever they're calling themselves this year...
AAMT ADHI (or whatever they're calling themselves this year) is a conglomerate out to make money ~ like any other business.  They lost sight of the basis for their existence long ago. I was a paid member (as were many MTs) until I realized what a waste of my hard-earned money it was. Ultimately, instead of helping the MT they just want to make a sale.
Even with a salary you're kind of a small business owner!
Even if you're paid a salary you are your own agent, so to speak. Why not hire a part-time helper and pay them a subcontractor rate. That's what a service owner does. You are no hero for not getting some help. MTs who have their own accounts have responsibility for 7 days a week coverage, but not all of us type 7 days a week. Put an ad in the job seekers board and pay someone to take up the overflow. You will burn out and not be able to work at all eventually. Good luck to you.
RE: Possible Partner

I am the owner of a small MTSO.  I am interested in discussing with someone who also owns a small MTSO as well about possibly teaming up to expand and market for new business; building up gradually.  Interested in private practices and/or clinics.  Please contact me if this is something you might be interested in.  Thank you. 


Shorthand partner
It used to be called "MedBrain," but not sure if it's available anymore. There is something with the same name for MTs, but it looks different than it used to.
Love Atkins, but can't get my partner to go along with it. sm
We tried it back a couple of years ago and I lost 35 lbs in 4 weeks. The weight just falls off. We took a cheat meal once a week so we could have whatever it was that we craved that week.

The problem with Atkins is it needs to be lived as a lifestyle, not as a fad diet. Being off carbs can skewer your body's ability to handle carbs, so if you go back to eating carbs, you are worse off than before.

In the lifestyle, though, you can go back to eating some carbs after you lose the weight, but still it is not so much. But keeping the water off to me is worth it all.

I am doing a low-carb, low-fat diet now, which I am adjusting to as a lifestyle, but we still take a day off from it all each week to eat what we want on that day. I am at my lowest weight in 3 years and feeling wonderful. The exercise helps so much too in the energy department and also keeps the anxiety I am prone to away from my psyche.

only the companies that partner with each school will waive the experience
you need to ask those three schools more about that option. The services that don't partner with the schools are not likely to waive the experience.
I do not have any compromising stories about him, but lemme tell you about a silent partner doctor
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In general business're running slower than usual but running. NM
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Unfortunately it is legal..so yes it is business and they will continue with bad business practices
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I made my business your business by posting and...
I totally respect everyone's opinions. It is easier for others on the outside looking in. That's why I pushed the "post reply" button yesterday. I trust my fellow MTs and I know the more I read from you all, the more confident I am becoming. I just need that final push, not from him though. I also wanted to let you all know that the physical abuse while I was pregnant was documented by my doctor and the hospital. I only wish I had known then that it is a felony to abuse a pregnant woman. I also photographed my face from a couple of weeks ago and told several people in my circle. I had such high hopes for us. Now...not so much. I'm not saying that I won't try to get him to church, but I realize that God can only do so much for someone who isn't listening. j
Business is business. Internet forums are
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Oh, someone benefits from AAMT - AAMT DOES!
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For a business ad?! A business that deals
''Transcriptsis'' x2

''with good track record''

''serve our clients of all sizes'' (I know what they mean, but I just think the wording is funny)

''strive to achieve highest possible quality'' (once again, they never met an 'article' that they didn't hate)

''all departments including H&P...'' (or a comma, for that matter)

No, it is NOT your price to pay SM

unless you continue to allow the "price" to be extracted from you.  There are companies out there who value what you have to offer.  Sounds like it is time for a heart-to-heart with your current company regarding at least being adequately compensated for doing all the crap dictation (believe me, they KNOW you are doing it) and if that fails...MOVE ON.


I feel for you and I hope this helps but if you continue to allow yourself to be used/abused to the point it is ruining your life...sorry but don't look to me for sympathy, you DO have options and working at Mickey D's is not the only option.


Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea, but I
still recommend them.  Better than paying a big bill.   I average 8000 minutes a month and they do not complain at all. 
Price
It's around 12 cents where I am. However, this is a red flag that they are looking and you should be looking for a new client and dump them. Believe me, they will dump you if they're thinking about it. Too bad, if you're good, good ones are hard to find but they have to find that out the hard way. The buck is top priority. Good luck to you.
Where did you get the price?
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Sure am. The price of EVERYTHING is going up and
the taxes are through the roof, but my pay would go DOWN if I didn't work longer and harder to make the same amount. This really isn't good! but it's life, so we plug along and live (or at least WORK).
My price - PS

I know my prices sound low but it is gross line and a letter is counted from the date to the signature line and blank lines count.  That is the way that the company did  prior to me taking the account over, very upfront about it and I continue to do the same and everyone knows about it.  So that is why my rate to them in .115 per line but it adds up as they are surgeons.  They prefer looking at the lower rate per line.  I know it is the "old way" of counting lines -- use word and take the total amount of lines and that is my line count.  Now you know why I don't want to give up this account.  


 


Best was would be to price it out..sm
DHL, UPS, rental the smallest U-haul trailer and drive it home. Network with fellow MTs and see if anyone from that area is headed your way?
price

To me it seems a little low, depends on if you get a lot of consults or if it is just patient notes.  Psych consults can have a lot of tests that take a while to set up in a template but once set up, as long as the dictators dictate them the same way, you can use them.   My psych account I do for 11 cpl gross line and we have just converted over to digital.  Used to pick up and E-mail back.  But I do not have 24 TAT, I pick up on Th/Fri and have to have back by Weds night.  Also depends on how may dictators you have and if you can do normals, templates, etc.  Also each doc could want the same test set up differently.   But you have it now, see how it goes and go from there.  If you find it is too low, tell them and up it.  Again, depends on if it is chart notes or consults.   Sounds like you will be having your hands full to say the least.  Congrats and best of luck.   I do two psych, one for ADD children/adults and one that does a lot of consults for traumatic brain problems/cognitive and voc rehab.   


Patti


I think the price was too low.

somewhere around 11 would have been fair.  Of course they say, you only press a button and it pops up. I had a doc tell me about how he dictates the same paragraph with his normals and wanted a discount because of that. I told him he could just add in that part when he got the report back, since it was so easy.


In your presentations, keep talking quality when your clients are talking cheap. Show them how nice the finished product is and tell them you would be happy to work with the docs to help them make templates for redundant work so that --here's the kicker-- they don't have to dictate the same thing over and over again.  Sell that the technology is for their benefit to make their lives easier. And again, when they say the little "but you only have to" just smile and say, how about if your staff just adds that when it comes back then...


Don't feel bad about underbidding. Do a really, really good job - spend some time in the office developing a relationship so they know you are a real person. I like to take my kids with sometimes when I drop by so they know when they sign the check, it's not going to a corp but to a family.  Go high end on the service, get it set up so it works real good, then raise your rates. You asked about a fair rate and this rate is not fair to you.


Email me with any other questions. We can talk over some of your options and do some trouble shooting.


 


Not for that price
$18+/hour. I make more as an MT, but I would not consider anything less. I took a cheapy $14/hr QA job and the owner treated me like dirt. No way.
Seems to me for the price of the
book that AAMT should have used spell check before sending it to the publisher. After all, they are the ones who make all the rules, or are they exempt?
price is $30, not $70....
She is saying she can download the e-book for $30. The paper book is over twice that much. The e-book is worth that, in my opinion. With the book, you are going to look something up in it twice a year and it will collect dust the rest of the time. The e-book, being right on the computer, *might* get used more often.
I repeat, the price of everything, the value of nothing.nm
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Often I think they lie about price, thinking they can
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Fair price?
I just picked up a new account today but was so unsure of what to tell them in regards to price.  It is a psych account, PHP program, and they said they dictate on a total of 150 patients per week at 2 facilities.  They said if all goes well, they have 6 more facilities they can add.  I was really scared of giving too high of a price and not getting the account, but I also don't want to get ripped off either.  I have quoted prices that were too low in the past and really suffered for it.  Anyway, I ended up quoting them 0.08 a gross line, which I think is totally fair.  They will be using digital recorders and they will be printing the work.  What do y'all think??  I want to feel confident about this.... 
price per page

We may be going to a per page in paying our at home typists.  However, it has been a long time since I did this.  What is the current rate per page (the employer) to pay for imaging transcription??


price per page

 I may have to outsource some work to ICs  what is the going rate for a company to pay for radiology reports, I was told 1.75 to 2.00 does that sound right.  I hate doing line counts.  Any thing will help. 


Thanks


price of gas and daycare
I have a 30 mile round trip to my job. After being home for a few years on and off, it finally hit home that I needed bennies. So I bit the bullet and went to work at a hospital doing acute care. I take the bus every day. Much cheaper per week to ride the bus than putting gas in my car and my boss lets me flex my time as needed. I made a list of pros and cons and the bennies were the deciding factor as they are excellent. Much better than what I had which was zippo...Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
Give them to him for a price.
Calculate how much time and energy went into making those and charge accordingly.  You deserve your money.
price per page
What would you charge per page for radiology reports?  You know some are a few lines for hands, feet, etc. and others (CT, MRI) are lengthy.  sk
Great price ... does it come in
colors other than white? Laser printer quality? Or just ink jet quality? My client used to use sticky paper but decided after a couple of years it was not cost effective and switched to regular paper. They might be interested in switching back at this price. Thanks in advance!
Price per hour...sm
Depending upon the complexity of the dictation it can take anywhere from three to six hours.  If there are multiple speakers it would be on the high end.  The question should be can I work for 4 to 6 hours for $60?  That works out to $15 ph for 4 hours and only $10 ph for 6 hours work.  Definitely expect to spend more time than you think on any given dictation as the contractor will always tell you it's "easy". If they are paying by the "hour" instead of by the line or page you will be the one taken advantage of!  I, for one, cannot work for less than $20 ph.  Nor should we.  We're educated medical language specialists. 
Yay, a new one! Might get a good price, too, with
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are these always $15, this is not a sale price?
Radio Shack rocks for the stuff I need. Especially when I can get memory chips for my digital camera dirt cheap. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL GOOD NIGHT.
Great price if you have a Mac
but I have XP. I wonder if it's the same program for both. Thanks for the update though! I used it last night and it's a pretty nice program. Again, thanks!
That the price of the barrel has gone DOWN a lot! nm
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PRICE RANGE

I think you would be very ambitious and over-reaching if you charged 15 cents a line to think that you were competing with the nationals.  It sounds like she is new to transcription and has no way to gauge what she should charge.  If she is by herself, she is not going to be able to handle a clinic account or a hospital account by herself.  They will give her over 5000 lines a day.  She needs to be realistic on what she can handle before she thinks about what she can charge them.


This is a price for me to have the account myself...sm
I was going to give them a price and I was wondering if this was about right. It is family practice clinic work. They may not go for it. I am just going to give them a price and see what they think. My husband's cousin is really good friends with one of the nurse practioners in the office and I was going to let him put in a good word for me.
No ONE should do VR for that ridiculous price.
Mine is 4 cpl and with straight intermixed you can make a decent salary.