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He's about as cool as a blast furnace

Posted By: gross on 2005-08-27
In Reply to: Tommy Lee... - KYradMT

You're kidding, right?  This guy's an idiot. 


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Brother-in-law has been using outside wood furnace
for many, many years and loves it.  It sits out back of their house less than 50 feet (I would guess) from their back door.  They also cool their house with it (need an exchanger of some sort) and heat their pool water.  He is pretty clever and worked out the plumbing for the pool by himself.  They do have to spend part of their summer looking and cutting and hauling their wood supply but they think it is worth it.  Hope this helps.
space heater vs furnace, a few opinions from the experts

Limit use of Electric Space Heaters
Here's a few opinions. There's one way, way, way down at the bottom, too. Hope it helps.


 


Limit use of freestanding or in-wall space heaters to short periods of time. Electric space heat can cost as much as 25 percent more than fossil fuel heat. Because of the high energy required, the use of extension cords with space heaters is not recommended. Also to avoid fire hazard, electric heater power cords should never be placed under a carpet or rug to be hidden from view.


http://www.lbwl.com/TipsElec.asp


Space heaters are a fairly inefficient way to convert electricity to heat. They can also run up the electric bill, and I'm not sure they're a good choice for the apartment-building lifestyle. However, if you owned a big home and controlled your own central heating, a space heater could be a good choice. If you spent your entire day, or most of it, in one room of the house (say, your satellite Grist office), you could turn off the central heat and use a space heater. And, of course, space heaters are a great option for rooms where there is no other heat source whatsoever -- certainly better than frostbite.


Space heaters run on electricity generated by burning something or splitting atoms or capturing hydropower or tapping into the energy of wind or sun (optimal but unlikely). Radiators run on water heated by burning oil or gas. Because your radiator burns fuel on site, odds are it is more efficient than your space heater. (Again, we're guessing here, since we don't know the specifics.) With electric space heaters, about two-thirds of the heating energy from the original fuel is lost during transit to your room.

http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2004/02/25/umbra-heat/


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Q: A couple of issues ago you talked about electric space heaters. Are they less

expensive than gas?

A: Maybe. Unless you have a geothermal heat pump, electricity

is not the most economical way to heat a home. But

depending on the size of the electric space heater and how

you use it, you may be able to increase your comfort and

save a little money this winter.

There are two basic types of electric space heaters;

Convection heaters heat the air and usually have a fan

to blow warm air around. Radiant heaters warm objects.

Some people like to feel warm air move so they use a fan

driven heater. Others will use a radiant heater to avoid

drafts from moving air. The cost to operate the heater will

depend on wattage, temperature of the room, and length of time

it’s on. The higher the wattage, the colder the room, and the

longer it’s on - the more it will cost.

A 1500-watt heater will cost around $.10 an hour to operate.

Your much larger gas furnace may cost $.45 - $.75 an hour to

run. To be comfortable yet not spend more money the trick is to

save gas by turning down your thermostat while using the electric heater. If you just

use a portable heater for short periods, and you turn down the thermostat at the same

time, you should be fairly comfortable and save on your heating bills. Check back

next month for more on electric versus gas heating

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_D0E1IewSqoJ:www.cityofames.org/CitySide/Documents/January2006.pdf+electric+space+heater+versus+turning+down+thermostat&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3


Q. Would it be more efficient to use an electric heater for one room than to keep the whole house warm with central heating?


 A. I can see why you would think using a space heater would be an energy-saving solution, especially with higher gas and oil prices. But in Vermont, electricity is still the most expensive way to heat. A typical portable electric space heater could actually increase your energy costs by as much as $50 a month.


A better approach is to make your home's "envelope" and central heating system work as efficiently as possible. Make sure your home has sufficient insulation. Prevent air leakage between indoors and out by sealing any holes between the house and outdoors or the attic, especially where chimneys and plumbing enter. Gaps around door and window frames and drafts under doors should also be sealed. Repair cracked glazing on windows and replace weather seals if necessary. You can find low-cost, easy-to-use weatherization kits and supplies at your hardware store. Be sure your furnace filter is clean, seal and insulate heating ducts, and have your furnace or boiler professionally inspected, cleaned and tuned each year. Vacuum or dust heating vents and move furniture away from them so heat can circulate. Finally, close doors to any rooms you don't want heated and turn down the thermostat in those rooms.


Gas vs. Electric Heat
The Dollar Stretcher
by Gary Foreman

I live in the Midwest and am bracing for the high cost of heating my home this winter. My question is about buying/using a space heater. Is there a way to find out if running an electric space heater would be cheaper than the gas I use to heat the home? Is there a formula for this? How would I figure it out. I've taken all the other precautions such as insulation, furnace tune-up, weather-stripping etc. I figure I can keep the heat turned to about 67 - but a space heater might be good for the family room-kitchen, the area we use the most. Thanks, 
Cheryl R.


Cheryl appears to be serious about reducing her heating bills. And, she's right. According to the Federal Trade Commission, nearly half of our utility bills goes to heating/air conditioning. So controlling those expenses is worthwhile.

Cheryl can compare heat generated from gas or electric. To get a fair comparison we'll determine the cost to generate 1 million BTU's of heat with both fuels.

A furnace with a seasonal heating efficiency of 80% will use 12.5 therms to produce the million BTU's. MGE (Madison Gas Electric in Madison WI) was charging consumers $1.50 per therm in October, 2005. We'll use them as our example. At a cost of $1.50 per therm heating with gas would cost $18.75 (12.5 therms X $1.50).

An electric heater would consume 293 kilowatt hours to produce the million BTU's. At a cost of $0.11 per kWh (also from MGE) that's $32.58.

So heating with electric is more expensive than natural gas. And, that's usually the case since a lot of electric is generated by burning natural gas.

But, Cheryl's recognized that gas vs. electric is only half of the equation. Could heating a smaller area (kitchen/family room) with a higher cost fuel (electric) be a good idea?

In our example electric generated heat is 70% more expensive than gas generated heat ($32.58 / $18.75). As long as her kitchen/family room area is less than 30% of the cubic footage of her house she'll save money by using the space heater to heat it and turning down the thermostat on the furnace.

Remember that this is just an example. We've made some assumptions. For instance, furnaces are measured based on their AFUE rating (Annual Fuel Utilization Efficiency). It's also known as "seasonal heating efficiency." We chose a furnace rated at 80% efficiency.  Cheryl's could be more or less efficient. That would affect how many therms of gas are consumed.

The selection of space heaters will make a difference, too. There are a number of types available.

According to the Missouri Department of Natural Resources a radiator-type heater could be best for Cheryl. It works well in a room that gets constant use. And, since the surface area isn't extremely hot, there's less danger of someone (think children) getting burned.

There's also a formula that Cheryl can use to figure the cost of running a space heater. She'll need to know the size of the space heater in watts. Divide that by 1,000 to get kilowatts. So a 1500 watt heater is 1.5 kilowatts.

Multiply the answer by the number of hours per day the heater is in use to determine how many kilowatts are used per day. Suppose that it's running from 8am until 10pm. She'd multiply 1.5 kilowatts by 12 hours and be using 18 kilowatts per day.

Her electric bill will show how much she pays per kilowatt. Let's use our $0.11 rate. The 18 kilowatts per day multiplied by $0.11 costs Cheryl $1.98 per day to run the heater.

Make no mistake, the furnace is the most efficient way to heat the entire house. But, according to the National Association of Home Builders the average home is 2,200 square feet. That's a lot of space to heat.

And, if you'll study your home, most homes do not have someone in every room 24 hours a day. Each family has a pattern of use. One or two rooms might be in use for much of the day. Other rooms rarely are used except for sleep. Cheryl might find that she can lower the thermostat on the furnace to 60 degrees and use space heaters to raise the temperature in occupied areas.

Chances are that a lot of us don't want to go through all the calculations. You really don't need to. If you only have one or two rooms occupied, it will almost certainly be cheaper to keep your thermostat lower and put a space heater in the occupied rooms. Just remember to take the appropriate safety precautions when using space heaters.


http://www.lighthousecredit.org/Articles70.asp


Love to know how far back it goes, was a member for about a year in 1998, we could use $$, furnace b
so its cold here! Actually it broke the 15, the night before we left for Disney on a Make-A-Wish trip for my daughter Jenny....(we had a blast)...got back 2 days ago, it broke again that night (21st). DH got it running again, but the heater guy disassembled it last night and has not returned yet to put it back together and fix it. Luckily we have a propane fireplace or we'd be in big trouble, still chilly though especially since it goes down to 25 at night, brrrr!---so any $$$ if we are included or entitled would be wonderful...but I doubt we will get so lucky since it was so long ago that I was a "member" of AOL. Guess I will just have to work even more to pay for the repair, fun.
Not a blast, but....
puhleez, kids are SO overindulged and treated these days that it's ridiculous.  I was a kid in the 60s/70s and everybody I know recalls the same memories.... If you stepped foot in a resturant once a  YEAR, it was a miracle.  That was for your parents to go out and do.  Nowadays you can't go into a  restaurant without listening  to mobs of screaming toddlers throwing silverware on the floors and breaking  up crackers everywhere. Same with theaters... We NEVER went to a walk in theater,  it was the drive-in or nothing.   Of course now that there are no drive ins, I guess people could keep their  kids home to watch the DVD until they're old enough to sit  still and quiet at the movies.  And finally, as for vacations... We  went  on car trips, sat in the back seat without any DVD or video game.  And we had fun.  But we certainly didn't feel entitled to do everything our parents did.  Kids today want it all.  I think it's perfectly okay for 2 people to have a few days to themselves without guilt.   I'm sure their kids do p-l-e-n-t-y. 
Blast away
I couldn't care less how any one responds to my posts. This is not real life and I don't get emotional over this board other than to laugh at the cat fights.

If I need to vent, I talk to real people.
that's a blast from the past

I remember that term from years ago.  


I did a Google search and the closest I got was a Maxwell Sweetheart retractor: http://www.snowdenpencer.com/snowden/dspcatalog.nsf/b7e010000d3e8e708525666e004dfec2/0174ad87011670c085256673005b0e34?OpenDocument


If you read the first paragraph, it's referring to the shape of the blade ... so my guess is if you can have a heart-shaped blade with a retractor, why not with the tenaculum.


Op notes are a blast (well for me they are fun!)
I love doing them personally.  If you can find someone who is willing to let you kinda slowly wade in, it really is something you should try out.  You have to be adept at using all of your resources, i.e. books and internet, and you should have a good grasp on basic anatomy.  You really should have some sort of bonafide surgical word book at your fingertips as well.  If you can give it a shot, I say go for it!  It never hurts to learn something new 
Met at a beer blast in college -nm
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Why don't you read the post before you blast it?
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a dumb question (please don't blast me) ... sm

First, let me say that I too HATE our jobs being outsourced.  Not only for the ill effects to US MTs, but especially the slave wages paid to Indian MTs to line the pockets of more greedy and overpaid CEOs.  It is sickening.


My question, however, is what exactly is so bad about medical records being sent outside of the country?  I just don't understand why everyone seems so adamant that this is an awful thing, mentioning homeland security, privacy issues, etc.  Other than loss of our jobs as MTs, what is the danger and concern?   Just curious.


don't blast me please..I didn't notice that stupid
 long morning.
In college in the room next to our, they would blast Grateful Dead music all day - sm
we retaliated by blasting AC/DC. They got the point and stopped blaring their music. I'd pound on the walls and ask her to keep it down because you are trying to work, might help, it she gets louder and more obnoxious I'd call the police, disturbing the peace and all. She won't appreciate it but it would sure make a point, and if she kept it up you just keep calling the police. Good luck.
Hey, cool.
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very cool, thanks a lot.
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That's not cool, however,
we always leave one of us home to pass out candy.  I don't feel right taking my kids out to get candy from all the neighbors when I've closed my  house up and didn't pass any out to their kids. 
Cool, thanks!
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Cool, I might do the same (sm)
It is something I love to do and never have time.  The animals at my house like to paint too.
Wow, that is cool!
I wish MY middle name was Lennon, LOL! Yeah, "imagine" what John would have to say about the current state of affairs - I have a feeling he would NOT think 2 kindly of Mr. Bush or the war - remember War Is Over (If U Want It) he and Yoko put on billboards all across the world to end the war in Vietnam? I don't think he'd be 2 popular with the Republicans, LOL!
Really COOL!

cool. thx.
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very cool, Thank you so much!!!
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Cool! Thanks.
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THAT IS WAY COOL!
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WOW! That's cool!
I always wondered how that works, and how one winds up in Judge Judy's court room? Do they know beforehand or is it like a surprise when they show up at court??? :)
It WAS cool!! (sm)

He filed a claim in Small Claims Court in the state where he was living.  Apparently the staff of these shows watch the dockets and pick ones they think will make a good show because he got a call from Judge Joe Brown's staff who wanted him to be on that show and the next day got a call from Judge Judy's staff who wanted him to be on her show.  He chose Judge Judy because he would not have to travel as far to go to her show.  It was all very interesting.  He did not think so at the time he was going through it - it was very stressful for him - but in the end he was happy with the outcome and glad he did it. 


The point of it is that the show is "arbitration", it is not an actual court of law.  He had to sign papers saying that he accepted the "arbitration" and if he did not like the outcome he gave up his right to recourse in a court of law.  He chose that route because he felt that if he took it to court, though he probably would get a judgment against the defendant, he would still have to collect.  But with JJ, the show paid the judgment and he got a check for the whole amount, tax free, plus $500 for showing up on the show, within 7 to 10 days.


 


WOW! Now that's really really cool! lol
One more question, does the defendant then have to pay the court??? I just find this so interesting :)
Way cool, Boo. Way cool!

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It's Cool.

Not the best, not the worst.  Very easy to set up and use.  You may need to fiddle with the settings for speeding up and slowing down dictation, but that's not hard to do.  I'm available if you need help!  I used it all through school and did just fine with it.


Good luck!


Too cool
I think I will really think about this before vacation this year. Kids watch DVD in vehicle anyway!

That is very cool! Thanks!

Ha, that's too cool-Think
I'll try it this summer some beach somewhere! LOL! Thanks so much for the info!
Cool!
Thanks MIMT for the info.  I will be working for a company that used to be called Michiana Transcribers, Inc. out of Osceola, Indiana.  They have merged with MD-IT.  My place of employment where I worked as the in-house supervisor for their transcription department terminated all four transcriptionists' positions, including mine, and are outsourcing to MD-IT (Michiana Transcribers, Inc.).  They have hired all of us to be at-home transcriptionists, transcribing for the same physicians/therapists we have all these years.  We are a little aprehensive to say the least.  Any information on this company would be greatly appreciated.
this is so cool..
thank you thank you thank you

I was looking at keyboards with touch pads, but wasn't too thrilled on the results.
how cool!
I'm running to Radio Shack tomorrow!  I cannot wait to hear what I have been missing.  Maybe they will give me a raise now for not sending to many QA submissions.  LOL!
too cool
thanks. you can never have enough websites
Cool!
Your information helps a lot.  Thank you!
Too cool!!!
That is so cool.  Thanks for sharing this.  I would never had known about this otherwise.  
Cool!
I bet that was neat...I watch the Today show whle I work to keep up with the news and love it! I learn so much. Glad to hear u are fine!
LOL! Cool
That is funny... I bet some don't know what that means..

We are all fruitcakes though! haha
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That's cool. Thanks.
Seems like one to bookmark. Thanks again.
Cool ...
I keep a silver vase with flowers in it (not expensive ones, buy a fresh cheapie bouquet each week at Wal-Mart). I have a favorite small gold lamp and a guilded box that I keep my stash of candy in, lol. I do have a telephone and desk calendar/appointment book. I use mainly electronic references so the few books I have are stored on a shelf below. Have a printer stored below and my CPU and Internet router. Really nice leather executive chair. My flat screen allows me quite a bit more room on the desktop.

Overall, very happy with my work space. And NOBODY touches it! LOL