Grrrrrrrrr Wrong COMMAS!!!
Posted By: MIchelle on 2008-02-16
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OK this doctor dictates things like this all the time...."He wanted to cry (comma) and appeared unhappy."
There is no comma there, right? What should I do? Pretty sure you need a subject on both sides of the comma.......that's what I thought.
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wrong, wrong, wrong. work is being outsourced because of $. period. not because of unqualified MTs
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commas
You really need to think about this comma situation. Grammar and punctuation are there to make a document readable. A medical document is a patient care and legal document.
I know the transcription companies and hospitals do not pay fairly and I really don't blame you for trying to do something to increase your line count, however, this is simply not an appropriate way to do it.
I think if you approach your supervisor with some contrition and try to make a conscious effort to not do this you will probably see some positive results.
Again, I don't mean this to criticize you, but doctors are really down on transcriptionists a lot because this sort of thing drives them crazy and I can see how it could.
Good luck to you and I hope your situation turns around soon.
Commas (sm)
I am from the old school where commas were essential for clarity in reports. I find in today's world there are far too many errors being made, both in and out of the medical field, because people have not been properly trained in the English language. I have requested copies of my medical reports for a serious medical problem only to find multiple transcription or dictation errors which are inexcusable. The hospital I requested these reports from is a large metropolitan research facility where people come from all over the world for treatment. Obviously they are sending their work out to the lowest bidder. They do not have a transcription department. Not only was my name repeatedly in the body of the report, but it was spelled incorrectly and not in harmony with the correct spelling of my name in the header. Commas were not used in the proper places and the report was horrendous. I have not brought this to the attention of my physicians because they could "care less" in my opinion as long as they were reimbursed. What a darned shame! I don't know where they got their QA people, if they have any, but there is no "quality" in any of those reports. Don't feel bad. Whether we are talking commas, periods, common sense, etc., it is all "out the window" and the cheapest price gets the job! Just venting (and pretty upset). This is MY body and MY serious illness. I am so sick and tired of those pompous "asses" who proclaim 98% accuracy. I once received a reply to an E-mail from one of those companies who told me I "scored high" on their testing and stated I would "here" from them soon regarding potential employment. It's all pretty disgusting to me.
maybe you should try using commas...
in all those compound sentences in your post if you are so big on grammar.
commas
 Thanks for the help!!!
BOS and commas
The day that a doctor can actually transcribe a complete sentence/thought with the correct noun/pronoun/subject/verb/adjective, I will then use appropriate commas. Run on sentences is what they do. Most transcription is verbatim. As long as the WORDS are exactly what the doctor says, the punctuation (other than a period) is not even important, has nothing to do with the body of the report. I don't profess to be an English major and whoever thought it needed to be applied to transcription needs their head examined. In this industry, nothing is forever. A few years from now they will scrap the nonsense and move on to some other idiotic idea some moron comes up with in the BOS.
I applaud accounts that refuse to use BOS. I wish they would all do it and put an end to the insanity.
commas and which
which and that are often used interchangeably. You must decide what the dictator intends.
That always begins a restrictive clause.
Which always begins a nonrestrictive clause.
Test: Do you need what is said after which to tell tell what is meant? If the answer is yes, no comma. If the answer is no, add a comma.
Restrictive: Essential to what precedes it - no comma.
The arm which was fracture was splinted.
Nonrestrictive: Place a comma before which.
The right arm, which was fracture, was splinted.
That begins an essential clause or phrase. That is always specific to what comes before it. Do not place a comma before that.
I hope this helps.
too many commas? Nope -
perfect punctuation - way to go!
...and someone who does not use commas. ROFL! nm.
nm.
typing letter. Do my commas look oky?
She is a 66year-old white female who recently transferred to our practice with diabetes mellitus, hypothyroidism, hypertension and hyperlipidemia, who I refer to you at this time for further evaluation of anemia
BOS is a crock, but commas are still important!
Especially as demonstrated in the post above. I think we all know (or should know) when a comma will change the meaning of a sentence. I agree that is very important. I believe in the AHDI BOS, Third Edition, it states that comma punctuation points are not deducted on audits because most of them are open to interpretation anyway. Some sentences could take them or leave them, doesn't matter.
Somebody please tell me why these stupid hyphens are so important!!!! How can they change the meaning of a sentence? And another thing, who has the right to change the title punctuation in M.D. to MD. We tried that on our account, HA, HA, HA. Heard from those doctors right away and they did not like it one bit. These things are why I say BOS is designed to cut an MT's pay, make more money for the MTSOs, and to give QA something to do!
I, too, love commas! I was told by an English
teacher years ago to use a comma anywhere in a sentence where you want to pause, emphasize, or separate. I worked for this one national where QA used to dock me all the time for my comma use. However, I got out my college grammar/English book and scanned in pages to prove I was right. Didn't matter. It was, "Listen to your QA person." She wouldn't even use a comma to separate two independent clauses with a FANBOY. I couldn't unlearn 25 years of grammatical habits, so I quit.
I can see your point about grammar, but using commas to pad line counts??!!
Please, tell me you're not serious, okay?
Did I use my commas correctly? Because I gave it a lot of thought, too much so to use it as a way to pad my line count.
What a crock. I've solved it by starting to put in commas
more Keystrokes for me, and hey - QA just LOVES their commas! The more the better, in their eyes.
No flame--commas & periods go inside quotation marks--ALWAYS.
"right", they get "left". Hate to see a good MT not do this correctly.
I also separate with semicolons--allows use of commas where needed within dose instructions. SM
I see the value of stopping each med with a period; but the voice rec programs I've worked with so far have been using commas (or nothing), and breaking the strings up with period+spaces+caps, etc. is much too time consuming. Plus, account instructions typically ask for either numbered lists or comma/semicolons anyway.
I typed a report on the wrong patient as the doc keyed in the wrong info, SM
He later said the correct patient's name and I SWEAR to this day I made the changes but somehow the report when through without the correct patient and changes made. I still remember that incident.
Fantasia wrong??? Haven't seen the OP's CD, couldn't have been too wrong.
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It's about morality - not censorship! Right is right and wrong is wrong!
nm
As far as it being wrong, well who defines right and wrong? On the
other hand, what if he were doing the same thing? How would you feel? I think that should answer your question.
You SUPPOSE it was wrong! It was way wrong.
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you are wrong
it is harder to prosecute someone in a murder trial w/o a body, but not impossible. It is a case that would be based on circumstantial evidence. Perfectly legal and done before.
YOU TOOK THAT UP WRONG
I have lectured her. She knows we are against it. My husband and I do not drink at all. What I was saying is she can sit here and tell me she is not drinking which she has said she does not but I know better. I know every kid drinks at collegea and no I don't like it. I know her room mate drinks and my daughter has told me. There is nothing I can do about it if she is at college 100 miles away. She clains she does not drink. She has been told she has to pay the consequences if something happens. I tell her not to drink but if she does it won't be my fault because she should know better. I can lecture her at home by not allowing it in my home. I know a few of her home friends drink and I have told her if the parents ask me if it is so I will not lie. Obviously you don't have teenagers. Also Natalie's parents could have lectured her to about drinking but obviously she did it anyway.
WRONG AGAIN
to 'study and show thyself approved...rightly dividing the word of Truth'.
Well, I don't think you are doing anything wrong ...
I've been with these companies 3-1/2 and 2-1/2 years.
Do you know which accounts at your company are large or have a lot of overtime? I would ask to be put onto a super large hospital account as a primary. Being a large hospital account and/or overtime requirements will tell you how much work is usually there.
I have been very fortunate on my accounts but I asked for large hospital accounts up front for that very reason....????
Ur wrong...
Been an MT for 10 years and with MQ for 8...so much for assuming...
please, if you think something is wrong...sm
do whatever you can to get the person help. My nephew was bipolar/scitzophrenic (s/p?) and we didn't know until it was too late. Please try to help this person...it's hard to live with the consequences if you don't. Good luck and I will be praying for you and your friend.
Wrong!
I will take it to heart if it is from the administrator. The post was addressed to her.
what's wrong with me
I'm wondering what's wrong with me too. I just did 50 exams and realized I put the date of service 8-15-04 on all of them. Fessed up when I realized. I try to work when I don't feel well and this is what happens. Darn.
No, you are wrong
They have known about this being a potential disaster since Betsy in 1963, but since it was such a monumental task, and people in, for example, Washington State or Idaho, (just an example folks) would not have wanted their tax dollars being spent to fix the levees in New Orleans, and the senators and congressmen in these other 51 states wouldn't push it, because it was not a popular thing to do.
You are wrong!
Your eyes are mistaking - She never got out of her lawn chair - it is stuck to her butt because she is so darn fat and she can barely run at all, it is more of like a wobble, wobble, wobble!
She's wrong, isn't she? You and I and everyone else
knows that. MQLover is wrong to be ugly and make assumptions.
She will never win the Nobel Peace Prize or even any type of Employee of the Year award with her abrasiveness. It's uncalled for. It really just shows her ugliness inside.
I'm a supporter of MQ; I don't agree with all they have done or will do but in general I've had a good relationship with them. It is difficult for me to hear some of the nastiness from complainers. It's one thing to state clearly and plainly what a problem is, it is another to do the name-calling, etc. Both sides are doing it now. It's sad.
The BEST plan of action for those who are upset with MQ, though, is to do what another poster suggested in an above thread --- go to the Employee Complaint Form on QNet and fill it out. Swamp them with those complaints. Have them swamped with complaints.
No changes can come about if MQ isn't directly contacted about the complaints.
I hope everyone can take a breather, relax, and allow each others opinions but be more respectful in their statements.
Have a good day, everyone.
Don't take this the wrong way, but
you're getting yourself all worked up over something you don't even know to be true. Shhhh, deep breaths. No worries. Everything will work out in the end. Even if MQ eliminates SE, what's the worst thing that could happen? So you go job hunting or switch to employee status. There are tons of IC and SE jobs out there with companies that are way better than MQ. I can relate, though. I've got three kids and a mortgage. Honestly, there are so many MT jobs out there that you can quit a job one day and start working again the next day for another. I understand that you have security and longevity with MQ, and the unknown is a scary thing. However, you need to stop worrying and imagining the worst. You're a good worker, right? Do you think they're just going to dump you with no notice? Why don't you talk to your supervisor? Ask her straight out what's going to happen. You are allowed to know how these new changes are going to affect you. In the meantime, stop catastrophizing and make yourself a nice cup of tea. It'll be all right.
Nothing wrong
with having 6 accounts or 7, 8 and so on but WHEN THERE IS NO WORK ON ANY OF THEM what do you do? Still sitting here waiting to work and NOTHING. There is something wrong with this picture.
Nothing wrong?
Boy, you don't get it do you and yet you continue to bicker. No work IS the problem and only getting from your 5th, 6th, etc. when you get the scatter report means that there are too many people on the accounts. That is the point.
Wrong again!
After the ER visit. I went to 'see Alice'. She did a better job taking care of me than you could ever do. I called you after I left her and told you 'she' made me see stars.
WRONG
Not getting paid for spaces. They just tell you that they do, but they are lying
Sorry, you are wrong.
I do have an extremely handsome husband. I do go to the spa and get pedicures. I also MT. There is nothing wrong with that. It really ticks me off when ugly people come down on me like you are. Hey ugly, where is pretty? Not anywhere around here, that is for sure.
WRONG
They are a public company and the privacy laws only apply to patient care.
Ha Ha You got me all wrong!
I, also used manual typewriters. I am 53 years old, knew how to keyboard Qwerty, and switched within the last 2 years to Dvorak.
Qwerty is not the "correct" keyboard, just the more common one. Actually, the Dvorak keyboard layout is older than Qwerty. Qwerty was developed specifically to slow down typists as there was a problem with the keys sticking together on the old manual typewriters because the typists would be able to go too fast using Dvorak keyboards. Qwerty was specifically developed to slow down typists and keep those keys from getting all clogged up. Then qwerty became the 'standard' because everyone was using it.
The world record speed typist, Barbara Blackburn uses the Dvorak keyboard. It reduces hand movement by about 10 times. All the vowels and most common consonants are on the home row. When I decided to become a medical transcriptionist, I decided to switch to Dvorak "'cause I ain't no spring chicken" and want to do all I can to make these old fingers last longer!!!
I actually am using the Dell keyboard that came with my computer because my Dvorak keyboard would not interphase with Windows XP. I have the keys memorized, and I simply changed the 'keyboard language' in my computer settings to Dvorak. It is hilarious when someone else tries to type on my keyboard using qwerty because what they type comes out jibberish!
So much for Dvorak 101 !!! Have a nice day!
so tell me what I did wrong
lol
Don't get me wrong...
I think that is a rotten thing for an employer to do, but it is the apparent policy that once an employee exhausts all available sick time and vacation time, they need to return to work before missing an entire pay period. If that makes sense. Believe me, I didn't like having to leave my newborn for that reason. I know she could have been in a different situation, but I'm just making the point that the same thing could have happened somewhere else. My experience was actually with a hospital.
I see nothing wrong with...
saying that "there are 2 different theories, one is evolution and the other is intelligent designed, generally held by religious people." Just as you can can teach ABOUT a religion, you can tell kids what the theories ARE. Kids learn about the history and beginnings and practices of religion all the time in history class. I see no harm in presenting ID in that context. As for evolution versus creation...I've got it all figured out and put to bed in my own mind, which is what I tell my kids.... Evolution IS God's creation. Very simple, very logical, and mutually respectful of both sides.
Wrong, wrong, wrong
One thing that truly stuck with me DISC for eyes --- DISK for back
Once again, don't tell anyone they are wrong...
on this issue. Most of us have conformed to the way we have been told to type it over the years. In 13+yrs of typing radiology, I have just in the last year only come across a facility that has asked me to type "disk" in reference to the spine. All others have been adamant about seeing "disc" on their reports.
Noone can "win" this argument...it's a matter of choice.
MOST DEFINITELY WRONG!! same
I had the same experience with Sandy, SouthScribe, Georgia. I helped him out on a project until he got someone else. He lied about sending out my check too (even gave the check # and amount he supposedly sent out to me when I called about it!). He never paid me, even though I reported him to the BBB. I would suggest to you to report too; even if you don't get your check (I hope you do), it is on record, and the next person is not as likely to get ripped off.
I don't see anything wrong with that at all. nm
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i see something wrong with it!
Why should she get holiday pay for christmas when she doesn't celebrate the holiday? that would be like catholic ppl expecting a day off on jewish holidays. you cant have it both ways, if you boycott the holiday, then you can't expect to reep the benefits from it too. thats ridiculous.
There is NOTHING wrong with
your feelings or reaction! I really don't know how I would react to this situation, so I certainly wouldn't tell you what to do or how to behave. Just know that your feelings are only natural and human, and you have done nothing wrong. I hope you get the love and support you deserve now and in the future, and I wish you the very, very best. Hang in there!! 
Wrong once again.
I had a perfectly normal childhood, no one molested me or mentioned the word homosexual to me - I just knew at age 5 that I was attracted to men. Sorry if this seems so hard to accept but it is reality. I had no idea about homosexuality whatsoever - just knew even at 5 that I had feelings for my own sex. But don't take it from me, after all I AM the gay one who has the experience. Better to listen to all these kind folks who aren't but think they know everything there is to know about being gay. There is no reasoning with people like you so I gave up many, many years ago. Have a great day!
Wrong!
I came out of MT school (community college) ready to work - opened up my own business and have been busy, busy, busy and making $$$, $$$, $$$ ever since. It depends on one's background and their education, both in and out of MT, so don't say no one can do this fresh out of school. MT's not brain surgery, you know.
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