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Golly. All that nastiness directed at someone who agreed with you?

Posted By: Dianne on 2006-06-05
In Reply to: oh please - stop wasting my time - MTNY

You're the one who didn't want anything but nicey nicey. Sometimes the truth isn't nicey nice. Sometimes the truth doesn't have bunnies and flowers. It's all part of the rich tapestry of life. If I'm wasting your time, just don't read my posts. Call me a child if you want. You're the one having the tantrum.


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Golly, some folks just have to have the last
word, 'eh? I've been following this thread and just waiting for someone to blame the dog owner for the dog nails, or even the dog!! Unreal!
Oh golly, that must be frustrating and annoying.
maybe you can make a game for yourself of second-guessing the QA folks. It sounds like they are the kind of ill-informed people who would rather cling to their ignorance like grim death than open their minds and learn something useful. If you look at figuring out their foibles as a game, maybe it won't rankle so much.
I agree with all the nastiness!

A LOT of the MTs here are very nasty, when it comes to newbies, especially! People get frustrated with inconsistent QA and all they can say on this board is, "do your time! we all went through it!" Well, that is NOT an answer.  They go around the original post and say that we "don't want to stick to what we are told by said employer, don't like corrections or criticism," when nothing could be further from the truth. We just want CONSISTENCY with QA corrections! Is that so hard for some people to get that through their thick heads?! How can one EVER learn, with inconsistency w/o going nuts?! And one particular nasty BI&*H on here (not mentioning names, she knows who she is) had the balls to tell one newbie to quit this field!!!! How freaking low is that?! I too, thought this was supposed to be fellow MTs supporting fellow MTs, but that is not the case, with some people! A place to vent, w/o being bashed! Good MTs trying to do a good job, and just asking for consistency, there is nothing wrong with that!!!!!! Maybe these sour grapes of MTs need to get out of the business, or stay off of this board, because honest, good MTs like us, do NOT CARE TO HEAR IT! Keep the negativity to yourself! The old saying, "If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything," still rings true!


Please, I am begging, stay away nasty people! If you don't have positivity to offer, or nice things to add, then DO NOT POST!!!! Telling people looking into the MT industry not to do it! I agree, this wasn't the best thing to get into as of recent, but I ALSO agree with giving newbies looking into this field the pros and cons of this biz, and let THEM decide for THEMSELVES!!! And yes, there are PROS, for you negative people! Not everyone has the same goals in life, and not everyone needs to earn the same amount of money.  Let people weigh the options for themselves, instead of just replying, "Find another career! This one sucks!" Give them both sides, not just YOUR opinion!


Okay, I feel better now! I will go cool off for now!


A big thank you to all of the nice, friendly MTs who visit here for their help on words, insight, etc.  It is much appreciated!


Have a great weekend!


I think the nastiness used to be diluted more
I have come to this and other boards off and on for many years. There have always been a few who prefer to bash than to provide honest information. Now it seems like they are the majority of the posters. I don't know if it is because we are all too busy trying to make a living to contribute or what.

Heck, it would seem that with 300 users here at any given time there would be more input. (I tend to be cynical about that number, though.)

I guess I'm as guilty as anyone for not contributing enough. Maybe we lurkers should take over, eh?
I'm not sure it is all nastiness, but maybe immaturity perhaps!!?? nm
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The nastiness had some attention on other forums, and seems to (SM)
have toned down. Good Luck! Small steps add up to big things. And, "Well-behaved women rarely make history."
i've noticed it as well - nastiness... nm
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Not directed at anyone in particular

but after reading the thread below by the obviously young editor asking for help, a thought just occurred to me:  MAYBE the original poster in this thread was one of those young mother's working with kids at home and MAYBE her editor was working at home with her kids.  MAYBE both were having a particularly bad day.  MAYBE they lashed out at each other.


Still better than resorting to child abuse.  Just another argument for not trying to be all things to all people all at the same time.


The insult was probably not directed at you then.

You are a "mobile home dweller", not "trailer trash" or a skank.  There's a big difference, one you can tell by looking at the home and the person.  We have some very nice mobile homes on our block nestled amongst the stickbuilt houses.  There used to be four "trailer trash" houses.  One of them remodeled and it looks quite nice.  Another one moved out, someone bought the lot, sold the trailer, tore up the old foundation, and now they have a really nice big yard.  We're still trying to get rid of the other two.  If they'd only clean up the junk littering their yards, mow and water once a week, and paint the exteriors, they'd have nice properties.  I don't understand why able-bodied people would not maintain their properties to keep or increase the value.  Instead, their dumps make the entire neighborhood look trashy.  Ironically, there are city laws here that they must mow and they must clean up their junk and abandoned cars.  These are the people screaming drunk in the streets at 2:00 a.m.  Other people have turned them in to the police repeatedly.   Thus, true trailer trash.  If I had only known 10 years ago what I know now, we never would have bought this place.


I can somewhat relate to your taking offense.  It's the same thing with the dumb blonde jokes.  However, I just tell myself that I'm not dumb or dyed, so the remark isn't directed at me.  You aren't a trailer trash skank, so the remarks weren't directed at you.  You are a very nice, intelligent mobile home dweller.


Gosh, who was that directed at?
I had a child on Cobra before as a bridge between college and her getting a job- oh, 5 or 6 months, very expensive I remember. Who lost their husband? I gained bunch of weight when the thyroid went. Weight definitely can be health related.
Why do you assume every post is directed . . .

to you or in reference to your posts????  Sorry, but the world and this board don't revolve around you.  Get real.


 


And why did you feel THIS post was directed at
Give us a break and get your own sandbox. What a riot!
Whoever directed you should learn to MYOB.
Why did they direct you there? Are you worried that anyone who looks at her page will think everyone who works there is a lesbian? Why would it make you feel soiled? As a proud sister of a former lesbian (had a sex change), I think you are being overly worried about what someone else is doing.
I know your posted wasn't directed at me.
I wasn't being argumentative with you. However, the difference between $20 as an IC and $11.50 as an employee could be the insurance, retirement and employment taxes your company pays for you. I don't know if the people complaining were ICs or employee status. Honestly, I'd take either one right now! LOL So... is your company hiring?
Forgot to as directed steroid injections!
For headache sufferers, there is nothing like supraorbital blocks and Botox for frontal headaches and occipital nerve blocks and trigger point injections for posterior head pain. Unfortunately, they wear off though. It helps diagnostically so the doctors know what they are dealing with. One doctor offered me a rhizotomy. I finally went through with a cervical fusion because my neurosurgeon said it would clear up all the pain. I wish it had......
Yeah, he and Karl Rove directed the hurricaine to New O. lol nm
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Sorry, last post directed to Trixi, not original poster. nm
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last post suppose to be ad, not as directed. Word expander was on.
Sorry.
Oh golly, take the kids on a vacation later. They need this vacation alone Sm

and there is not one thing on earth wrong about their taking it.


 


Agreed!
more are women than men.
Agreed.

By ''too pushy or desperate,'' I just meant not haranguing them TOO much or TOO frequently.  But definitely follow up, in a professional manner, and let them know that you're still interested ... especially if you haven't received a reply in a reasonable amount of time.  Worked for me!  (third time's the charm?)


agreed -
I did not renew this year - and I personally know at least 10 MTs in my area who did not renew this year -- they have lost their focus to the American MT.   IMO, perhaps their biggest financial support is through sales of their membership listing to offshore and/or unrelated companies!  No thank you!
Agreed
And poor Elliott. He seems like such a sweetheart. And mq_mt, I'll be sure to say hello. LOL.
Agreed!

Looks are only skin deep and come and go.  Stephen is a hunk in ways to numerous to count and truth be known, he makes a lot of women's heart go a flitter flutter, they're just too timid to admit it, but I'll stand up right here and say it out loud and clear:


THAT


MAN


IS


F_I_N_E


AGREED! (nt)

Agreed!
Tell them you have six school kids at home and will need extra money to leave them and take the job traveling to do their bidding! (wink!)
Agreed. I'm with you.
And getting paid crap for it when it takes longer to edit than it does to transcribe outright because the VR companies don't train the docs.
Agreed
They basically want their files online because they are horribly disorganized and cannot keep track of what they've sent to me or I've sent back to them. If I store them on an external drive here, they will just drive me crazy asking me to look for stuff. I've tried hard to work with these guys, but this issue coupled with some others has shown that what they really need is an inhouse transcriptionist.
Agreed!
I certainly agree with you there... :)
AGREED
When I needed to switch my docs to digital I got my stuff from transcriptiongear and my FTP through Hippo. Transcriptiongear is great at recommending the right products that are the easiest to use for offices doing the switch. They also have tech support for all their products to help you get set up. This is what you will need.

Digital recorders for each doctor. Most recorders also come with software that will automatically transfer the dictation from recorder to computer (I find this an important step). Computers will also need a free USB port for the recorder.

FTP. You will need a host (somebody will have to pay a monthly fee for this) and both you and the office will need an FTP client (a program to transfer the files). HIPPO offers both and again good support. There are free FTP clients out there but you don't get any support so if you are just starting out I don't recommend it.

What you need: In addition to an FTP client, you are also going to need a player and a foot pedal to play the digital files once you get them. I just use ExpressScribe, which is free, and you can talk to transcriptiongear about the right pedal.

If I left something out, somebody will (hopefully) point it out. There are many other options out there with many pros and cons. This is just the set up I use and we're happy with it.

Agreed
!
Agreed.
I had my own accounts for about six years and ended up keeping a brutal schedule that put me on psych meds, ultimately.

If you go this route, I think it's absolutely necessary that you are a person who CAN set healthy boundaries for yourself.

I couldn't, of course my clients didn't much care even if I could, and I'd get phone calls at 11:30 at night, 6:30 in the morning, unreasonable demands, COMPLETELY inconsistent workload... and remember, when it's just you, you keep up with no matter what they throw at you (meaning, 20 minutes of dictation OR 200 minutes of dictation) in your required turnaround time, or you could lose the client. Office staff doesn't often remember (or care) that you are just one person. You are a vendor to them.

I sound horribly harsh, but I just think it's a good idea to know what to expect. It sounds glamorous but, for me, it was anything but. Didn't make enough to hire an IC, but had too much work for myself, and now I'm here with CTS and severe burnout, having cut back severely on my work.

If you can handle those challenges, that's wonderful, and good luck! For all the positives, remember the huge challenges.
Agreed, but...
Your post is true. However, MTs who are not ready to "fly" should not be hired to do hospital work in the first place. Some could, but they need to be screened for the ones who know their limitations, how to use their resources, and that includes QA resources (assuming their QA person is a good resource). Now, who hired them? The vultures who hope to make a buck off of them and us? The MTSOs who hire unqualified people do us no service, do the new MTs no service, do the clients no service and definitely do the patients no service. If they want to hire people who are marginal those new people should be assigned a mentor to help them along and that mentor should be paid for that service. That is the only solution, as I see it. Only the qualified should work and earn what they are worth. I don't know about you, but I would welcome the raise they could give me if they hired fewer unqualifed people, hired more qualified (which they could do if they paid fairly) and then they would not have to have so many angry QA employees. Makes sense. Maybe we should all the the CMT test and only those who pass work (at a higher line rate). Then, when new transcriptionists start, they will be more qualified and less a burden on QA.
Agreed

Actually the only MT I know who makes decent money is one who works for a hospital (familiar work, familiar docs, 1 set of formats) which pays a combination of hourly and per line.  She only makes it because she is the "fastest gun in the west" at the keyboard, fingers fairly fly, but she's getting the physical results of that, ie carpal tunnel, arthritic fingers, etc. Unfortunately for me, I love the work if I could only find a decent place for it.


 


agreed...
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I have never agreed with anyone like I do with your's!
Anytime I hear a single mother I just get a really bad taste in my mouth. It is used as an excuse. I was a divorced mother, never a single mother, but I had 2 children that I saw after and never got any coddling because of my having children. Anytime I hear "single mother" it just sounds to me like you want something for nothing and to be singled out for reduced rates, a giveaway, freebies, food stamps, well you get the picture.
agreed
You have to comply with HIPAA on this. It is not in your job description to question a doctor's judgement. You don't know what the patient's wishes are and why the doctor is treating a patient a certain way. If you value your integrity (and job) leave it be and don't get emotionally involved with work.
Agreed, but...(sm)
I think we can probably all tell where the OP worked and I don't blame her at ALL for being soured on the profession. Glad I passed on that particular opportunity when it was offered. *Shudder*

That being said, I've had great employers, particularly my current one, and I'm still making very good money.

It's all in the luck of the draw and with which company you have the opportunity to work for.

Again, OP, you have my sympathies...I'd be living on benzos if I worked for *THAT* place!!!
Agreed (more)
I know.  I agree with you there.  I'm just glad that for now the attendings are still using us.  I'm just afraid that they are going to phase us out eventually.  Maybe not right away, but there is always that possibility.  But, these attendings are absolutely opposed VR.  They did not want to switch.  They did not want to be responsible for editing because they rely too much on us.  The residents are trained coming in to use it, so they'll never come back to using us.  <sigh> 
LOLOL - AGREED
LOLOL--YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!
Agreed. But you have no answer. ;(
I cannot believe what we've been reduced to either. When I started 15 years ago, this was a hot job. I got more money each time I started a new job. I have had great accounts/jobs go to templates and VR, or (?) Through the years, my needs required more income but even with more experience, I watch my income shrink.

I was just commenting to my daughter the other day as I came on this board how sad it is to see so many people scrambling to work for companies for for pennies/line. There is no dignity and not much self-respect to glean anymore from a job well done.

Most of us just have to "bite the bullet" and play the game. I wish you luck. :)

Agreed. Roll with the changes in the
be phased out.  Those who refused to switch out of WP5.1 and learn Word or some other windows-based program now have a much more limited set of work options.  The same thing will happen with ASR.  You can learn to work with it and learn to be part of it or eventually be obsolete and out of a job.
Agreed; what's the deal .....
There are other companies, instead of spouting your bitterness here... please work elsewhere.

I am really happy at MDI, as are most of the people I work with. I love my team leader. I don't know who you are, but gosh - you sure are negative.
agreed, i'm in school and still only about

i'm quite torn, as I want to do this the rest of my life (psychology) but at the same time school is so hard when you're trying to keep a full time job, and I would need a graduate degree to get a job that pays well.  I can't go full time either, i'm just starting out, so it seems like a jail sentence some days.  Looking at close to 10 years of schooling.  I also love nutrition, to become a nutritionist it would take much less time, but just thinking about all that math and those formulas, eek!  Then there is cooking, a school here offers an associates degree for that.  It seems like a stressful job that I would not get joy out of.  Cookie cutter restaurant recipes. 


I look at it this way, it wouldnt hurt to learn about social sciences, that can be applied to any field.  Maybe take a break from social sciences, go for that cooking degree or get a nutritionist diploma and work with food. I'm showing my indecision right now.  I envy those people who knew what they wanted to do early on and are successful at it and thriving. 


That's what I meant. I agreed with you.
And you responded with vitriol, "dear". Not at all nice. And from someone who was so upset with perceived negativity.
Agreed, Patti!
I guess if I were the OP, I'd be looking while working. :-)

I agreed with post up until that SM
"fascinating and exciting times" comment.

The work is going offshore to India, Phillipines, China, Guam, Timbuktu, whatever. Anyone with a small child they hope to home school for 18 years, better find a new line of work.

Things are changing, but they most certainly are not getting better.
Agreed, standard set, so
who would that be? When can we start? Who wants to help? What about a committe appointed and administered through a university with Merriam-Webster, Stedmans, NIH, etc. on the committee. I once met the man (on the phone) who started Sno-Med. Wish I could find his phone number. Maybe he could help us all. All this middle-man stuff and uncertainty has to stop. Thanks for your post.
Agreed, that's not logical. (sm)
...so it's a good thing no one said that. :-) Not sure where you got that idea. I don't question Norton's or McAfee's "safety," only their superiority (and I have, indeed, seen numerous systems slow to a crawl while either was installed and running). As I ended my last post, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary).
Use less salt than directed in the recipes. Try the powdered milk hot chocolate recipes! Yummy :-)
nt
It depends on what the agreed contract between
the company and the client defines.

I know of 2 companies that provided all work out of TAT for free to the client (so, of course it cost the company considerably because they were paying out money but not taking in money).

Regardless of what it costs financially, it costs in reputation and that is just as expensive and devastating.