Fair price to charge per page?
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I just picked up a new account today but was so unsure of what to tell them in regards to price. It is a psych account, PHP program, and they said they dictate on a total of 150 patients per week at 2 facilities. They said if all goes well, they have 6 more facilities they can add. I was really scared of giving too high of a price and not getting the account, but I also don't want to get ripped off either. I have quoted prices that were too low in the past and really suffered for it. Anyway, I ended up quoting them 0.08 a gross line, which I think is totally fair. They will be using digital recorders and they will be printing the work. What do y'all think?? I want to feel confident about this....
One office I charge .12, another I charge $2.25 page--nm
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price per page
We may be going to a per page in paying our at home typists. However, it has been a long time since I did this. What is the current rate per page (the employer) to pay for imaging transcription??
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I may have to outsource some work to ICs what is the going rate for a company to pay for radiology reports, I was told 1.75 to 2.00 does that sound right. I hate doing line counts. Any thing will help.
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price per page
What would you charge per page for radiology reports? You know some are a few lines for hands, feet, etc. and others (CT, MRI) are lengthy. sk
2-3 per page sounds fair.
I have charged 3 per page and made out good with short notes and even short letters. You'd do fine with 3 per page since there's probably a large margin at the top for letterhead, but then even charge that 3 dollars for half page as well. Don't let them get into half page 1.50 stuff. Know what I mean jelly bean? LOL - just trying to keep it light, but seriously.... Start at 3, and then if they balk, then say well let's try 2.50. Meet them halfway; they feel like they are in charge and then you get your own account which could lead to more work in the future.
How frustrating! Maybe you could offer to charge them half price, but
I would not let them get away with taking advantage of you. I know you need the job, but it's not fair for them to expect you to spend all that time (especially over a holiday weekend) and effort for nothing. Offering to only charge them half price at least gives you something for your time and also offers them a break. It was their mistake - not yours but halfing it with them will hopefully show them that they are willing to work with them on it but also let them know you're not a push-over that they can take advantage of.
Good luck!
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If they want it printed in that font fine but for charging change it back to your usual font and see how many pages there are if you are charging by the page. I type in Arial 10 for several accounts or Times Roman and I always change it back to Courier 12 for my line counts. Also change the margins to represent 65 characters in the line as they want less margins for chart notes.And they are aware of that when I quote my line charge. If you agreed so much per page, tell them it was using the Courier 12 font or whatever font you usually use with your usual margins.
Good luck
Charge them $5.00 per page
and then give it to them on a CD rom for their safe keeping.
charge per page
I have 2 private accounts and I charge $2.50 per page.
Charge per page
I currently work contract for a surgeon in CA and am getting paid $5.00 per page. I would say this is a high figure and probably only paid to those with tons of experience, if even then.
Does this seem fair? To charge .16 per line - includes printed reports, copies on disk for one year
and delivery. I do travel twice a week to this office. Plus, at times I will fax or email the reports free of charge. I live in Southern California in an upscale area.
Thanks again! 
I agree, charge by the page. sm
Say you use courier 12 font and 1 inch margins, you will get about 35-42 lines per page. You charge 12-15 cents per line, at 12 cpl, that is about $5 per page; at 15 cpl about $6.25 per page. The going rage per page is $7.50. Of course, it depends on where you live, but figure it out on your own.
Do what benefits you. Ask what font they would like to use, margins, etc.
The ultimate would be to charge per gross line.
IMEs are very boring and about 10 pages long for one patient. I hate them and don't do them.
Good luck!
Is there an invoicing program that will charge by the page?
I need an invoicing program that will charge by the characters in a page. I was looking for something that is simple to use and reasonable too, perhaps $100 or less.
TIA
Per page rate for legal transcription - what should I charge?
I have only done medical transcription and we charge by the line, not by the page. I have been approached about legal transcription work for template documents such as wills, estate planning, etc. I have been asked what I charge per page...I live in the Northeast/Connecticut area. Can anyone advise me what the current rate per page would be?
correction: charge by PAGE, and keep track of long-distance of local numbers, as well as fax supplie
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The price of gasoline is reflected in the price of goods. Having said that, one item
higher, MOMENTARILY, than Walmart, does not really make a case against Walmart. You want to make Walmart a bad guy because they don't have a shopper out there matching the grocery stores' price so be it. But MOST people I know shop at Walmart for lower groceries prices AS A WHOLE, and that is what makes Walmart successful. So buy your cheaper Bounty towels at your grocery store if that makes you happy. Your grocery store HAS TO MAKE MONEY and they will get you on something else. It is the retail law. Walmart will not be successful with higher prices than the grocery store. They aim to succeed. They have been sucessful in undercutting other stores. Your Bounty towels will not bring down the Walmart empire but it may cause you to shop at your grocery store where they will charge you more on other items to stay in business. Quit the knee-jerk responses. If you don't like Walmart and don't want to shop there that's all well and good. If you don't shop there because of Bounty towels, well that's just crazy.
Fair is fair -- relative or not, 1 house or 100.
She's earning income and the only fair, right, just, ethical and LEGAL behavior is to report it wholly.
Charge what the credit card companies charge when they don't get paid on time!!!!
Doubt you can charge 15 cpl for VR work to the docs - you can't even charge them 12 for straight
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Paula,
Thanks a lot for sharing these great websites!
you don't have to charge $60/HR - all you have to do is charge a good rate and then..
work smart, not hard. If you have a great dictator, charge him 14 cpl on a 65 char gross line, then set up your templates and word expanders, you can make $80/hr. But you need all three to work together, otherwise you might only be making $60/hr. Some people are just really good at what they do - shouldn't they make more if they are more productive?
I'd still charge by line, just charge a lower
rate, like maybe 8 cpl. Do you have to pickup and deliver work? You could also setup a one-month contract until you see how it goes and then you can figure out the best way to charge and go from there. You could also charge a flat rate per page and keep it fairly low.
Yep, $2.00 a page and the page has about 30-40 lines on it nm
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NJ $3 page, though I have heard as low as $1 page.
When I worked for a national, up thru 2 years ago, I was getting $1.75 page and heard they got $4.
I don't know but I try to be fair, but I can tell you
that I have had some management jobs that required 25 years of experience plus QA experience and MTs with less than 15 have applied and I had to tell them that it was not enough experience. That was hard, but they did not know what all was involved. I have had people get bent out of shape about it, but to be honest, I had my orders specifically from a company and nothing less would suffice, plus it was posted clear as day.
Also, there have been situations where people did not have resumes--yes, can you believe that? They said they had less experience yet they did not have it in a resume.
I think many do not understand what a recruiter has to look at and what we deal with.
still not fair
I understand how you feel, I too am in the same position. Its like you want to do a good job with quality work and once you prove that to whatever company you might be working for instead of appreciating your high skills they treat you like a door mat and start sending you all the work that none of the others want to do. We lose time doing bad reports/dictators just like any other MT and just because we can get through it with no blanks or it having to go to QA is no reason to give us all of the bad dictators/reports because its not fair and it doesn't make me feel appreciated what it makes me feel is used. I get no extra for doing these type of reports back to back to back even though we are supposedly working from a pool and the MTs who don't want to do these bad reports/dictators just keep zipping along. ITS LIKE THE BETTER YOU ARE THE WORST DEAL YOU GET AND ITS NOT THAT I MIND DOING IT (because I do want to keep my job) BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT JUST BECAUSE ITS TOO DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE ELSE WHO MAKES THE SAME cpl BUT THEN END UP MAKING A HIGHER LINE COUNT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THE BAD REPORTS/DICTATORS.
There should be some kind of way to be compensated when you are put in that kind of position but right now there isn't and you just do it because its your job. I have been in a situation lately where 95% of my work is from the list of bad dictators to be aware of and I am so frustrated. If there was some kind of compensation for say a multi-specialist Transcriptionist or ESL transcriptionist then it would make the situation so much better and there would be less resentment all the way around, I think that is something most companies should think about.
Of note I am not complaining, not whining, and not venting but just saying.
That is not really fair -
It is not as easy for some of us. I have gained 30 pounds in the past year from just sitting and emotional eating. Once you get down on yourself about it - well that makes it worse. A terrible cycle. Has anyone tried hypnotism?
Fair enough. I see what you mean.
I didn't mean to imply going straight for .12--lol! And I see what you mean by "demanding." I didn't mean that either, but I should have been clearer about what I DID mean. I do mean that the OP has SOME control over the situation--maybe not total control, but some control. As ICs we need to remember that we are in business for ourselves. We ARE a business, and we need to act accordingly. I'd be looking for another client as well. No need to put up with that!
I can't say I do, very fair here.....
No sideburns, no moustache, a few hairs under arms and not much leg hair either. I'm a freak! LOL!
3 cpl isn't fair for ANYTHING!
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Seems more than fair, to me! nm
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I think that your employer is being harsh, but I do believe that by the end of a year 1200 lines a day should be possible, especially with your background. Of course, if you are working with extremely difficult doctors that may be different. I have what I consider to be a very good account with few ESL and most doctors are very clear, and was able to produce up to 1600 lines a day with relative ease if I actually typed 8 full hours at about 6-8 months. I had no medical experience, but I did have writing and editing experience, along with two college degrees. In part, I think it's the ability to use Expanders as tools efficiently that makes that possible. Are you able to use online resources well? Do you have a good drug reference on your computer with a flexible search tool? Do you have an Expander that you are using to advantage? In order to be productive at the rates people expect these days, I think all of the above are a necessity. I also think that even with experience as a medical secretary some training is needed in order to get up to speed as an MT. In fairness, it sounds like you just jumped right into the job, and that must be difficult. Good luck!
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There is a world of difference between a good Expander and using auto correct. An expander will show the possibilities with a few keystrokes, whether you know the words or not, and often as soon as you see a new word you will know it is what the doctor is saying, even in a new specialty. They usually include a very complete medical dictionary, some give the possible words with any letters typed in order, not necessarily having to spell it correctly at the outset, like a mini wild-card search function. With auto correct you are only able to get what you put in yourself for expansions. I would say that using an expander during my training was what made it possible to become proficient quickly, above all else. If you can, try one of the commercially available products before leaving. It can make life SO much easier as you learn.
what is fair
I worked for a small rural hospital and we (3) were on call 24/7/365 and rotated carrying a pager on weekends plus working on Sundays.
That isn't being fair
Whoa there - my husband has a terminal disease and we usually end up hitting a 0 tax bracket because of medical expenses (we file long-form and itemize). We spend well over $700 per month on co-pays for drugs every month and then when he has to get certain IV drugs as out outpatient, our drug bill hits over $2000 for that month. Why should my family be penalized when I work my butt off seven days a week, 365-days a year? I pay in a huge amount of FICA and Medicare taxes each year. Until my husband became ill, we paid in a huge amount of federal income taxes every year. We also have two chldren in college and we are allowed to deduct some of their expenses we pay out of pocket. And, yes, we usually qualify for some Earned Income Credit, but not near what you mention. My family can use the extra money just as much as any other family and I don't think we should be penalized because of exorbitant medical bills that place us in a 0 tax bracket.
That's not fair --
I never said I have common sense!
Seriously, sometimes the most obvious things can be right in front of me, and I miss them completely. I might be slow to get some things (although I am highly intelligent; doesn't make sense to me), but once I do 'get' something, then that's a completely different story. Some day I'll tell y'all about all the other common sense things I shouldn't have needed help with --- but did.
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Is if fair to ask
a company what the average line counts of other MTs on same the account are? I know there are others who feel this particular account is hard to make a decent line count, so I would like to know what the average is. Otherwise, how do we know if their expectations of us are fair?
Seems fair to me. sm
As long as accounts are consistent 1200 is a very reasonable expectation.
I would think 1 would be fair, it probably would
not scare them away.
No, it is NOT your price to pay SM
unless you continue to allow the "price" to be extracted from you. There are companies out there who value what you have to offer. Sounds like it is time for a heart-to-heart with your current company regarding at least being adequately compensated for doing all the crap dictation (believe me, they KNOW you are doing it) and if that fails...MOVE ON.
I feel for you and I hope this helps but if you continue to allow yourself to be used/abused to the point it is ruining your life...sorry but don't look to me for sympathy, you DO have options and working at Mickey D's is not the only option.
Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea, but I
still recommend them. Better than paying a big bill. I average 8000 minutes a month and they do not complain at all.
Price
It's around 12 cents where I am. However, this is a red flag that they are looking and you should be looking for a new client and dump them. Believe me, they will dump you if they're thinking about it. Too bad, if you're good, good ones are hard to find but they have to find that out the hard way. The buck is top priority. Good luck to you.
Where did you get the price?
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Sure am. The price of EVERYTHING is going up and
the taxes are through the roof, but my pay would go DOWN if I didn't work longer and harder to make the same amount. This really isn't good! but it's life, so we plug along and live (or at least WORK).
My price - PS
I know my prices sound low but it is gross line and a letter is counted from the date to the signature line and blank lines count. That is the way that the company did prior to me taking the account over, very upfront about it and I continue to do the same and everyone knows about it. So that is why my rate to them in .115 per line but it adds up as they are surgeons. They prefer looking at the lower rate per line. I know it is the "old way" of counting lines -- use word and take the total amount of lines and that is my line count. Now you know why I don't want to give up this account.
Best was would be to price it out..sm
DHL, UPS, rental the smallest U-haul trailer and drive it home. Network with fellow MTs and see if anyone from that area is headed your way?
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To me it seems a little low, depends on if you get a lot of consults or if it is just patient notes. Psych consults can have a lot of tests that take a while to set up in a template but once set up, as long as the dictators dictate them the same way, you can use them. My psych account I do for 11 cpl gross line and we have just converted over to digital. Used to pick up and E-mail back. But I do not have 24 TAT, I pick up on Th/Fri and have to have back by Weds night. Also depends on how may dictators you have and if you can do normals, templates, etc. Also each doc could want the same test set up differently. But you have it now, see how it goes and go from there. If you find it is too low, tell them and up it. Again, depends on if it is chart notes or consults. Sounds like you will be having your hands full to say the least. Congrats and best of luck. I do two psych, one for ADD children/adults and one that does a lot of consults for traumatic brain problems/cognitive and voc rehab.
Patti
I think the price was too low.
somewhere around 11 would have been fair. Of course they say, you only press a button and it pops up. I had a doc tell me about how he dictates the same paragraph with his normals and wanted a discount because of that. I told him he could just add in that part when he got the report back, since it was so easy.
In your presentations, keep talking quality when your clients are talking cheap. Show them how nice the finished product is and tell them you would be happy to work with the docs to help them make templates for redundant work so that --here's the kicker-- they don't have to dictate the same thing over and over again. Sell that the technology is for their benefit to make their lives easier. And again, when they say the little "but you only have to" just smile and say, how about if your staff just adds that when it comes back then...
Don't feel bad about underbidding. Do a really, really good job - spend some time in the office developing a relationship so they know you are a real person. I like to take my kids with sometimes when I drop by so they know when they sign the check, it's not going to a corp but to a family. Go high end on the service, get it set up so it works real good, then raise your rates. You asked about a fair rate and this rate is not fair to you.
Email me with any other questions. We can talk over some of your options and do some trouble shooting.
Not for that price
$18+/hour. I make more as an MT, but I would not consider anything less. I took a cheapy $14/hr QA job and the owner treated me like dirt. No way.
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