Ebonics
Posted By: Explaining Ebonics on 2009-05-02
In Reply to: We don't know. :D :D - Ella (retired)
Ebonics was the name for the dialect in the US also known as 'black English' - where that becomes dat, neighborhood becomes da-hood. Grammar rules also get turned on their head. As in: 'We be goin' to da sto... ya want some chickin'?
Now before anybody slams me for explaining this - go look it up yourself. There was a movement about 20 years ago to actually accept Ebonics as an alternative form of English.
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One that speaks EBONICS. - nm
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Thank you so much 'Explaining Ebonics'!
You strike me as a very nice person.
Yes, DeeAnn answered my question, very clearly, and I thanked her.
About blanks and markers:
If I cannot hear something well, I type 5 underscores, then I send a 'note' to my QA
with _____ 2:30, what is the time marker.
This is no problem, I KNOW this.
My particular question was, how shall I 'mark' it for the QA in case I THINK I heard correctly, but I am not sure!
Shall I put the questionable word berween 2 question marks, like that: ?bezoar? or shall I just put _____ and the time marker?
Did you finally understand what I mean with my question?
Is it a stupid question? Is it possible that the so experienced MTs (???) therefore thought that I might be Indian? And it had right from the beginning nothing to do with my grammar or my syntax?
I think this was what paranoid 'curious' assumed that I just asked a question that was too stupid to be asked by an US MT.
On this board it is always emphasized:
There are no stupid questions.
What hypocrites.
Thank you, Explaining Ebonics, this all
makes sense and is very logical to me.
Isn't this then also the same problem when we correct VR?
Then we first read the word in the downloaded document, then listen to it, then think what it might be.
So we are confronted with 3 versions, sometimes.
We call that ebonics here in Hotlanta.
lol
I am so against ebonics and I live in the south
Here close to Atlanta it is ridiculous to hear all the time. It is so different from what you describe above. I would rather had a very fast, slurring of words physician speaking than to hear a professional using English wrong. I actually was having a very big problem with it before moving from Atlanta and hearing it day in and day out on the news channels. I really had to tune it out, that is how bad it was. I did not allow it spoken in my home, ever and by the way, it was being offered in the lower grades in school. Some blacks, as in my post above, consider speaking without ebonics, speaking white. What a shame!
I was referring to the "anymore", not the ebonics.
nm
meant to include ebonics is used and accepted
in this town. The schools are 95% segregated in the town. Very old southern roots. They do not care for change. Teaching children to speak properly is considered taking away from their "heritage". Why we moved here? Not really sure. People are very nice though. You are in the minority if you can speak, write, or read properly. Also, it is 100 miles or so SW of Columbus, GA, 30 miles or so NE of Albany
If you've never heard of Ebonics, you can't possibly be in NY
Unless you just landed from another country.
Sorry, but I would assume at the very least (and I mean VERY least) 80% of Americans know what Ebonics is.
The very fact you took 'dat' to be a slam to Indians kinda shows something struck a nerve with you.
If you live in NYC as you claimed earlier, I doubt you've been here long.
Flame away, knock yourself out...You sound LESS American with every post. I fail to see how someone inquiring if you were in India would result in such pure unadulterated outrage unless a nerve had been struck.
I'm outta this thread and off to work.
I want to thank 'Explaiing Ebonics' and 'Happy MTRobin'
for their comments.
These 2 are the only ones who showed to have a brain when answerin g my 1st question.
I am not Indian, not black, I live in New York. I am white and I have no contact with people who talk Ebonics.
To all the others who gave 'paranoid', actually 'stupid' comments to my question that opened this thread, I PITY you and get some education or visit a psychiatrist.
Definitely the most deranged poster is 'NOT PARANOID/NOT WORRIED.
*Ebonics* refers to the street slang, etc. (often heard in -sm
rap music, etc. Lots of white people, Hispanics, and even some Asians (all gangsta' wannabes) speak Ebonics as well. It's practically a second language in itself, so referring Ebonics-speakers to ESL isn't off the mark at all.
Ebonics: Not a black thing or white thing. (sm)
I don't think there's any cause to get upset or defensive here. Look it up on line...even colleges are offering courses in Ebonics! ...well of course they are more sociology-type courses, but still, people are PAYING to learn about the why's and how's of this "other" language.
A quote from one of the sites I found:
"UT-Austin's "Introduction to the Study of African American English," teaches students that the sentence, "Nobody didn't leave" is not "mainstream English with mistakes," but rather a legitimate English dialect. "Ebonics: Myth and Facts" and "African-American English" are both offered at Harvard. Penn and UCLA also promote Ebonics as a legitimate dialect in, "Introduction to African American and Latino English" and "Afro-American Sociolinguistics: Black English," respectively."
Here's the link: http://www.academia.org/campus_reports/2002/september_2002_2.html
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