Dragon NaturallySpeaking
Posted By: Barry Watts on 2007-12-28
In Reply to: Radiology transcription/Dragon Natually Speaking - Rita
You need the version that is recommended for your version of Windows. The earlier version I was using will not work with Windows XP, for example. You definitely need the Professional Medical Edition, the one that is roughly $1000.00, but it will quickly pay for itself once you've trained the software for your voice. (No, I do not work for Dragon or Nuance.)
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Dragon NaturallySpeaking
Definitely, but only after a lot of voice training. After that, though, it did very well and typed a lot faster than I could ever type. It never worked well for medical, but was great for radiology. If you don't mind me asking, who do you work for?
Dragon NaturallySpeaking
I just posted a reply to this, Rita, but I don't know where it went. You need the Professional Medical Edition and the version that is recommended for your version of Windows. It is not cheap, but will quickly pay for itself once you have it trained well for your voice.
Dragon NaturallySpeaking
You're welcome, Rita.
Using the Dragon
I, too, have carpal tunnel, released in the right have, getting worse in the left. I am recuperating from a broken right clavicle and find it very uncomfortable to extend my right hand/arm to move the mouse. Also, it is not allowing my collar bone to heal. One of my docs changes his mind so often that I have to delete and re-type so often that this might not be the way to go. Also, by the time I "train" myself to use the Dragon, I should be all healed.
dragon
Do you know if it can transcribe dictation from wav files? Also would the doctor have to train the software or could the Transcriptionist train it?
dragon
The person doing the dictation has to train the software. The MT could listen and redictate but why?
In the end, more trouble than it's worth.
Brad
Dragon
Were you using the Medical
Suite? It is absolutely necessary to have it. Did you spend the extra money to work with a prefessional Dragon trainer? I did and it was worth ever penny. Were you using a GOOD headset? Did you run the
Acoustic Optmizer at least weekly to improve recognition? Did you turn off the mike if you had to spend more than about 30 seconds looking something up or going back to listen to something again? Dragon does not work as well if you have a difficult dictator and you have to stop and start a lot, so sometimes it is quicker to type a report. Did you build macros and normals in Dragon? Were you working in the Dragon Pad or Word? If you were trying to use it in another program, all of the commands may not have worked and the recognition not as good. It is best to dictate into Word or Dragon Pad, then copy and paste.
What version of Dragom were you using? The older versions were slow and took longer to train. I have Version 7 with the Version 8 upgrade and the recognition is very, very good and it took only about 30 minutes to train on it.
I have not had problems with my docs as far as what to charge. My formula is simple: The better the dictation (i.e. the doc follows the rules of how to dictate into Dragon), the better the recognition, which means it takes me less time to edit, so I charge less.
I suspect your main problem was that you did not have the medical suite or you were using an older version, or that you needed more training on it from a pro.
VR-Dragon
I use Dragon to transcribe because I can no longer type, and have been doing so for the past 7 years. It has improved 1000% since I first started with it. I have Dragon 8 now. It may not be as fast as fingers, but it has kept me employed. I use it in conjunction with Auto Correct and Auto Text; I have created a ton of voice-activated macros/normals and I can usually turn out at least 1200 lines per day. More if I am doing radiology. Don't wait until your hands give out completely like I did. It is well worth the money. You may E-mail me with more questions if you like.
Dragon - sm
I have had Dragon 8 Preferred for about 4 months, I bought it off ebay new for very little. I have never been able to get a lot of speed out of it, even with excellent diction it makes mistakes and I have to make corrections. But I am able to use it for parts of my OPs, and most of my discharges. A little slower, but I can turn out more than 800 lines a day now. Was having too much trouble with my shoulders and hands to do more than that before. If you're really fast, it probably won't save you any time, but it sure can save you wear and tear on the body. I don't believe I would use it enough to invest in the Medical Version, though.
Dragon
Hi,
I have used Dragon Speak medical for many years and love it. It does have its problems, like when i am tired or speaking too loudly, i definitelyhave to proof everything, but it has helped me in the long run in getting reports pumped out quickly! I do a lot of PERS and IMEs so it is a great help and wrist saver. I don't understand what problems you might be having. Feel free to email me.
Cindi
I use Dragon
Hi. You can email me if you would like.
Has anyone tried the new Dragon 9...sm
speaking software. It is supposed to be better without any voice training. Considering trying it to cut down on those late nights. If you have used it what do you think of it. It would be used for Clinic notes if that makes any difference.
Thanks. 
Dragon
Anyone using Dragon? I was thinking about buying a unit for home - you know listen to the dictation and repeat it. My hands need a rest now and then. I had it when it first came out but it was lousy and I wasn't happy with it. Are they any better or is there something else in place of it. Thanks
Dragon
using this to dictate from handwritten progress notes, but then do you think this would require a lot of editing? I guess once Dragon is trained, it could increase productivity. I would like to save myself from looking up and down from my desk.
Dragon MT
I just started using this Dragon MT program. So far it is like taking 10 steps back from the other program that the hospital was using. Is this correct that there is no medical dictionary or Expander with this program and you have to create your own in Word autocorrect or am I missing something. Is this customary with most software? I guess I have been spoiled so far. With all of this technology, it is hard to believe the company wants you to start from nothing. Thanks in advance.
what is Dragon?
just wondering what dragon is?
Dragon
I am interested in purchasing Dragon for transcription. I went to Staples and asked for the preferred addition. The man said he hasnt heard very good things about the program. So I put it back and came home to ask your advice.
I know that it is non medical. I know they have a medical one that cost around 1,299. Any information on this product and how it works would be greatly greatly appreciatted. If I can use it and save my hands that would be great.
Again be honest about and tell me what you think.
Thanks guys.
Lilly
How does Dragon work?
Has anyone used "Dragon" VR - and if so, how does it work? Is it worth shelling out the big bucks for?
Dragon-Medical 7
Got mine on e-bay for half of Softscan.
I use Dragon 7 and love it, BUT
This takes months to train right and lots of patience. I have carpal tunnel clear up to my elbows. Had to do something (not surgery) and got myself a Logitech trackball. No more chasing my mouse. My thumb does all the work. I love it.
I tried re-dictating to Dragon...
I bought the latest best version, souped it up with KnowBrainer and devoted 3 solid months to training it to my voice and building a huge vocabulary. I could still type circles around it. Editing is extremely bulky and slow. Also don't think you can have your docs dictate a page and then train Dragon to do their speech direct. First of all, they will expect you do to charge less since "the computer" is doing all your work. Second, you will be spending tons of time doing further tweaking and training to get Dragon anywhere near up to par to actually get any production out of it. All of which is not only frustrating as h---, but you don't get paid for it. Now, don't take this to mean that VR won't take over transcription. Big companies use a different platform with the Dragon engine - one in which they have spent a lot of time figuring out how to make it quick and easy to edit...oh, the end is in sight, all right...
Dragon Speaking
I am totally baffled at how "you" can use Dragon Speaking when it is the doctor's voice that you are using. How can you do that? How can you edit someone else's voice? I have been wondering how this works for a while, so figured this is a good time to ask. TIA
Things to consider about Dragon
I took a class at the local junior college just to see how the program worked. I would suggest that you try it out as rigorously as possible before you buy it, even if a lot of people tell you it works well. Will it work with your voice? This is a serious question. It does not work well with all voices, particularly female voices, and it doesn't matter how many times you read the selections to train it. Make sure you try all the commands as well as regular speech. I never could get it to understand *select* which was the first step to doing anything else like bold, underline, delete. etc. Be prepared to have to retrain it if you have a cold/allergies or yelled yourself hoarse at your kid's game. Know that if it continues not to work at a particular task, you will get frustrated, your voice will change and things will go downhill from there. Whether it *works* or not may also depend on why you want it. If you have carpal tunnel really bad, then any little thing may help keep you employed and it would be worth it to you even at a level someone else found unacceptable. If you want to use it with other software, for example DocQScribe, make sure you ask your employer's Technical Service people if it is even possible. I had fun with the class, but I wouldn't buy the product. That was the consensus of the class. Out of 20 people tops, 2 got it to work well, 2 thought it had possibilities and the rest of us said *not ready for primetime.*
Does anyone use Dragon instead of typing?
What are your opinions?
I've used Dragon
many times and really like it. Along with the program, you need to get a headset that has a microphone attached to it, as this is what you will speak into.
What I do is listen to the dictation and then repeat it into the microphone and the Dragon program types it out for you - it's really cool!!! It takes a while to get the non-medical part set up because it doesn't recognize most drug names and certain specialty terminology, but you can teach it to recognize them in the future by correcting the spelling when it comes up for a spell check, and then saying the word into your microphone. Then when you say this word again, it remembers it and types it out correctly. Doing this with every drug name and medical term is what takes so long. You also have to be very careful about proofreading because sometimes, even though you think you're speaking very clearly, it comes up with something that's so not even close to what you said and doesn't even make sense - sometimes this is good stress relief because you get a good laugh at it! I don't use the program every day - mainly when my arthritis kicks in, but it has been a lifesaver on those days. If you can have the patience to program it for the medical stuff, it's definitely worth the money for it.
Good luck to you and I hope this helped!
Cathie
I have used it and moved up to Dragon -sm
Honestly the one on word worked just about as well as Dragon. But, that said, I no longer use either one. My shoulders and my neck quit hurting but the time took to go back and correct mistakes was to time consuming to make it worth it. You really have to be willing to invest a lot of money into a microphone and even then, you might get 70% accuracy tops. Unless you really wanted to shell out some big bucks and get Dragon Medical, I think you will find it a big hassle. My production did not go up at all, but I was in less pain :) Go spend $20 and buy a head set and give it a shot, but be prepared to be disappointed.
Correcting commands in Dragon
Good Morning Ladies and Gents:
I am a reasonably expert user of Dragon, having used it for about four years. I recently bought a new computer, and put Dragon 7.30 on it. I got the new XP 64 bit. Wow, what a dream for the Dragon.
However, while I had no problem with this with my previous computer, with this one it will not follow the command "new line" when I want the cursur to drop down to the beginning of the next line.
It keeps typing the word "united." It will however follow the command "new paragraph." When I ask it to correct "united," it gives me options, none of which are the one I want.
I would appreciate any help.
Thanks,
John
Dragon Naturally Speaking 8 or 7 (sm)
Has anyone been successful using this software for transcription? I have broken my collar bone and have not been able to xcribe. I can type but cannot extend my arm to using the mouse. Unfortunately, my bills do not stop just because I am injured. I am looking in this avenue till I can be up and xcribing again. Any info on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
Dragon Naturally Speakin
Does anyone know if the Dragon Naturally speaking program works with Emdat Inscribe??
No, Not dragon Naturally Speaking sm
I meant if the dictators use it and we have to edit it. Sorry if I was not clear about that. Thanks.
Re: Dragon Naturally Speaking
 I have been seeing a lot about the Dragon Naturally Speaking program. I am interested in buying. However, on looking E-Bay, there are tons of versions. Is it always best to get the latest version? and is that version 8? I have seen almost all versions on E-Bay, but need advise on buying. Any help anyone can give me would be immensely appreciated! And thanks in advance to anyone who responds (in case I don't get back with you soon)!
Dragon Naturally Speaking
I used to use Dragon 7. I was going to try and install it today on a new computer; however, I lost my original CD case, so I no longer have the serial number. So I'm thinking about purchasing the newest version. I did okay with it previously. I was still getting it trained but I could manage to use it and match my typing speed on a good day. I'm curious as to whether anyone thinks the investment of buying the "preferred" version is worth it? I purchased a couple of different microphones previously, etc. I went to dictaphone.com to see if they had anything worth purchasing and noted that it seems that website takes you to nuance.com who is now the maker of Dragon? I thougt that interesting. Would appreciate any feedback on the newest version. I'm not looking to type 300 wpm or anything. I'd just like something that can at least take the load off of me a little bit so I'm not typing 8 hours a day. Thanks in advance!
Does anyone edit Nuance Dragon
I have a physician who would like me to transcribe from handwritten progress notes, but I am wondering if I should invest in a VR program to make this easier on me. I am wondering if anyone uses this software as an MT? All opinions are welcome including through e-mail!
About Dragon Naturally Speaking sm
I tried this at one point. I had a reasonable computer, but nothing like what we have today, and my last attempt at this has been years ago (2001). This is one of the reasons I think VR/SR is a joke.
I spent 60 to 70 hours "training" it. I am a clear speaker, not fast and I have no accent, just a plain midwest way of speaking. What did I have at the end of that time? Nothing, nothing at all. It would not recognize even the simplest of sentences or punctuation! To get it to pick up about every 3rd word I had to speak...like...this...every...word...slow...and...separate.
I will say that computers have come a long way over this short time. I know that Dragon is a bit better than it was. I still believe that if you really want to use it, you would need a Pentium IV with 160 gigs of HD space and nothing besides the word processor, operating system and Dragon on it. It is going to operate in either Word or WordPerfect and if you use a platform it won't work. You'd be stuck with copy, cut and paste which is not something every platform will allow.
I just would not, could not, be bothered to mess with Dragon. I type so many lines an hour that Dragon is deathly slow as far as I am concerned, and I don't get hoarse this way.
Dragon Naturally Speaking
Does anyone know if Medquist allows you to install programs on their computers? I used to use Dragon Naturally Speaking for radiology and it worked really well after a lot of voice training. It was a lot quicker just repeating what the radiologist said and watching for errors, which were amazingly few and far between. It never worked well for medical reports, but was a godsend when I had to do radiology.
Dragon Naturally Speaking
It works MUCH better with radiology.
Dragon Naturally Speaking
I am a radiology Transcriptionist who is learning "voicewriting" with ViaVoice. did using dragon increase your productivity with your rad transcription? Thanks. Rita
Dragon Naturally Speaking
thanks for the info. I work for a local diagnostic center. I was hoping to take some stress off my hands and wrists but also increase my production. thanks.
Dragon Naturally Speaking
do you mind sharing how many lines you can do in one day using DNS in radiology? Thanks.
Dragon Naturally Speaking
Hey Barry,
do you mind sharing what version of dragon you are using? thanks.
Dragon Naturally Speaking
Thanks!
Does anyone use Dragon Naturally Speaking? sm
 I am strongly considering purchasing this to do the listen and repeat, edit, way of transcribing rather than typing everything out. I am hoping that after I train it to my voice it will increase my productivity and help me with a little of the burnout I am having from typing for 12 years...lol. Anyone with any opinions? I do mostly ortho work right now...I have read that Dragon is best for radiology but not as good for medical.....opinions?
Thanks so much!!
You have dragon scan your documents and -
it picks up words it does not know and has you train them, and it also recognizes words that you use more than others.
dragon naturally software
The software will transcribe from recordings; but again, it will work more proficiently and accurately after you have trained it.
dragon naturally speaking 10
I have used Dragon NS-10 for a while now. It is around 900 and does not take long to train. You will have to watch as you speak and get used to it. As far as being worth it; that depends on you and whether you prefer to speak vs type. For me, my fingers, wrists and arms gave out and it was the deciding factor of quitting this line of work or not. Hope that helps.
Dragon Naturally Speaking v 8 Mobile
Is anyone using Dragon Naturally Speaking v 8 Mobile to download digital dictation from a recorder and convert into a transcribed document? I saw where it claims to be able to take digital dictation from a recorder and automatically convert it to a typed document.
Question about the Dragon Naturally Speaking SM
I am looking for ways to improve my line counts and think this is something I should try, as I am not the fastest typer. Can anyone tell me if I can use the program with my company's platform since we do not type in word? Also, I need some honest feedback. I don't have a lot of money right now where I can afford to buy something that expensive and then not use it. Anyone out there who might want to sell theirs also? Thanks!
I've been using Dragon fairly steadily
I have excellent results. Maybe one or two mistakes per page, if that much.
Any number of factors could be the reason for the problems you're having, starting with your soundcard, improper training, not dictating correctly, etc.
I bought Dragon for myself to try on a few small accounts...
first of all, understand that no VR works until the user has trained his voice. If you think you are going to get a doctor to sit down and "read a training paragraph" and then not expect his transcription fees to decrease... .well guess again. I can hear it "the machine is doing all the work." Even the best Dragon was bulky and slow but I am an extremely fast typist. On my best dictator I can almost do a 1:1 rate. Dragon is not set up to do the amount of production an MT needs. It is for a few piddly letters here and there. It makes you want to pull out your hair, waiting for it to think through a sentence, then post it, when you are already down the page. And the editing is horrible. Very bulky and slow. The big guns, like Dictaphone, deliberately set out to make editing easy. They know docs have to continue to dictate if Dictaphone is going to stay in business. But Dragon is a different story. Very slow on the back end editing. I wasted $800 and hours upon hours of training.
dragon naturallly speaking software
does anyone know if this can be used with docuscribe platform?
Anyone use Dragon Naturally speaking? If so, do you like it? Does it help? Looking for input. nm
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