Does Quick Books/Quicken count the lines or do you use a separate program for that?
Posted By: MTSO on 2006-02-22
In Reply to: Quick Books/Quicken - Patti
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Quick Books/Quicken
Also tracks alll my items for tax purposes. Been using it for almost 20 years.
Word count: 824 lines. DocuCount count: 897 lines.
I just counted the same file in Word and then in DocuCount, and DocuCount was higher than Word.
Just as an aside.
You're talking about a separate program add-in.
In the standard MS Word program, there is no such creature as "word count" on the Tools menu. Either you're not useing MS Word or your company added this program. The other poster is telling you how to get the line count using the MS Word statistics/properties for a document.
If your company has added this program feature, they can configure it any way then want to and you're at their mercy.
Please make sure in the future when you say you're working in "Word" that it is MS Word as that is the assumption that will be made by anyone reading your post.
I vote for Quick Look Drug Books
Very, very helpful. Also Stedman's word books quite quite handy. Googling comes a long way, but I tend to like the books better. Dorland's medical dictionary is a must have and also electronic spell checkers are great/CDs loaded on PC.
I use a C phone and 2 separate lines.. sm
I have DSL and I was not able to have my DSL on the same line as my C phone though now I cannot remember why it did not work. I do know that if it had worked I would not have had a phone to use to call out or receive calls while I was working (which was fine by me.. my family knows to call my cell). At any rate, because of the fact the C phone and DSL did not co-exist I had to use a separate line for my C phone and then my DSL is on another line and that frees up my main phone line for calls in and out.
It will count everything if you go in the settings and program it to. Good program!
Sylcount is an awesome and accurate counting program also. That will count everything if you "tell it to".
it does not count gross lines...I count 37 and it counts 67.
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Those of you who have gone from DQS to another program, how has your line count been
on the new program? Thanks.
Looking for line count program
I am looking for a line counting utility that can remove a certain number of lines per report based on a template. Is there any such thing on the market?
Thanks.
Word count program
I have an older model puter that is slowly going up and have word 97 count program on it. I am looking for something that is compatible with that - that also does all headers and footers - not just the header and footer on the first page that I can put on my new puter. I have checked in to SPellex and that is really slow counting. I also checked in to Abacus, which was fast and pretty accurate; it actually gave me a little more on a few of my reports as a trial run. ANyone have any ideas on this. Thanks for any help.
mt stars line count program
I downloaded it--I don't see an option for lines with spaces...just characters?????
Just FYI, you should compare line count with another program (sm)
FlashCount gave me a much lower line count when I compared it to Abacus. I notified them about this and they never responded.
You need to know the program your company is using to count so you can compare.
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Line count software/program
I am in need of a new line count program. Mine is on a floppy disk (yes, it's that old) and I no longer have access to a floppy drive.
What is a good/reliable program to use?
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Anybody work with a company bue do your own billling to them, count like 65 cpl and use a program ho
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I count my own lines and would not think of doing otherwise SM
Yes, you may have to spend money on a counting program, but isn't it important to have everyone on the same page, so to speak?
I'm so old that I don't know how to count by lines...(SM)
No, that's not a "I'm so old joke" - wish it were! I've only worked for myself in the past and now I'm helping someone else out. I agreed at a fairly low page rate (certainly lower than I used to charge) but I now think I'm cheating myself! When you count a 65 character line is that 65 spaces from left margin to right? Is that a gross line? What is the standard? I've been counting my characters (including spaces) in each line and they're at least 75 to 80. So, each page is like 1-1/2! My margins are one inch all around and the font size is 11. Am I wrong in thinking that a 65 character line means 65 spaces across the page? And, if so, is 9 cents per line out of the norm? Thanks for "teaching an old 'dinosaur' a new trick"!!
How do you count your lines? m
When you're not using a program like BayScribe that does it for you. For example, if you transcribe letters or reports in Word, how do you calculate the lines you bill to your client? Any help is appreciated!
ES does count lines.
It is one of the most user-friendly platforms I have worked on. I have 2 accounts that the speech rec is very good on and 1 account with lousy dictators that require more editing, but it is often entertaining. The sound quality is very good, and there is little to no distortion when you speed up the audio file.
Yes. They count the lines as set up
in the contract with the client. Each account can be different.
How can you count your lines in Word, I used
to use the word count in Word and then divide it by something to get a standard line count for that report. Has anyone done this before? I forgot the way to calculate when working in Word.
You can count your lines and characters yourself sm
even if you have no counting program. You can copy and paste into a word document or clipboard and count the characters in Word. At least you will have some idea of what you are being paid for. I have done this many times and if it doesn't add up to what the company's count has, I was right on the horn and sometimes even quit because of it. I will not be cheated in any way by any one.
Count lines in courier 12 - nm
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and I count gross lines
I do not cheat, I count gross lines and from top to bottom but I make sure that it is fair so my price per line is lower and it all equals out in the end. On chart notes, it is the total amount of lines which includes 2 spaces between patients which then helps to pay for the cutting apart, sticky paper and delivery. But my accounts are aware of this and again it shows in my per line charge.
The way MTSOs count lines
Does anyone know if some MTSOs calculate lines on various accounts differently? One of my accounts is very difficult to get a decent line count. While it is more tedious and does not have "normals," it just seems like often I have a shift full of fairly long reports (and a fair number of them), and by feel seems like my line count should be higher. - I can't help but wonder if lines are calculated differently for this account.
Does anyone know of MTSOs doing that? Sadly, I am afraid to ask my employer. ![](https://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/thud.gif)
Does anybody have program to dle-ck MQ lines? I would like to check every report
to see if all my work is being counted on a 65-character line, including spaces EVERY TIME - or are there occasional reports through the day/times during the day that the lines actually go longer than 65 characters.
At this point I would like to take the time to verify each and every report. Sometimes it just feels like a report should have had more lines - or that a report goes on over to page 3 and you know it should have more lines and it is not much lines and you are on such a time crunch you don't what to go and count (of course because the report IS long).
So, is there a program out there that I could use as a double check to verify they aren't turning the knob at certain times during the day to make the lines be i.e. 90 lines or so? I hope I have explained this good enough.
Thanks if anybody knows of one.
It's not personal, it's business. (I always like that line from "You've Got Mail")
Need to count gross lines only w/o spaces, sm
Used Sylcount free download but it expired. Any alternatives. Did not like Practicount. Need to count gross lines only. How do I do that using MS Word?
Count several lines both ways and see the difference
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How did you count lines before the PC, or were you paid hourly then? nm
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As an IC you invoice the company, count your own lines, and receive a paycheck.
First Choice, JLG, QT Medical, Metro in Atlanta, just to name a few.
Most use SylCount or something similar. I used Abacus - free line counting software.
Here is the best way...open any document you have typed for anything and count the lines both ways.
I have pretty much always been paid by the gross line...occasionally I will take a job with a company that pays by characters and I never make as money. Remember...with gross lines, a line is a line is a line....that means anything on the lines be it one character or 65 is a line. For instance....today I type a normal file for a client I have worked on for years...if I counted the lines at 65-cpl I got 398 lines, but counting gross lines I got 641 lines. This is a 38% difference in pay between the two, so you would be making approximately 5 cents a line less on the character count. Hope this helps :)
Word Macro to count Lines Strict inside
Hi,
The solutions others gave are good, but if I just needed to get the number of lines with typing (and don't need an invoice or a report), I'd use a Word macro.
The other solutions offered have this drawback: If the body of your document contains tables, the count Word gives you is vastly inflated, for Word counts each cell in that table as a line. This is not what the eye sees, and becomes problematic when you try to justify such to your client.
Below is a macro for counting what we at Emmaus call Lines Strict. (i.e. Lines with typing on them, vs Lines Extended that includes the blank lines).
To use it, copy from Public Sub through End Sub, and paste it into your macros along with your other macros. Easiest way of doing this is (after you have copied the appropriate lines):
1. Click Tools | Macros, and select an existing macro.
2. Click the Edit button.
3. Once the Visual Basic Editor opens, press Ctrl+End to move to the bottom.
4. Paste the clipboard contents.
5. Click File | Compile Normal. (If you've pasted things that don't belong, it won't compile.)
6. Click File | Close and Return to MS Word.
Merry Christmas! vJoe http://www.mpword.com
OOPS! I looked at the HTML code after I pasted the code into the editor on this board, and it added things that when pasted into the Visual Basic Editor in Word will not compile. Here's the code if you want to retype it, but pasting won't work. If you send me an email, I'll attach the code into a .txt document, and you won't have any problems. vjoet@attglobal.net
Public Sub GetLinesStrictCount() Dim CharsStrict As Long Dim Count As Long Dim ParaswBlanks As Long Dim ParasWOBlanks As Long Dim LineswBlanks As Long Dim BlankLines As Long Dim LinesWOBlanks As Long Dim NumOfTables As Long Dim NumOfRows As Long Dim TableRowCount As Long Dim x As Integer TableRowCount = 0 NumOfTables = 0 NumOfRows = 0 ActiveDocument.ComputeStatistics (wdStatisticCharacters) ActiveDocument.ComputeStatistics (wdStatisticLines) CharsStrict = ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropertyCharacters) ParasWOBlanks = ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropertyParas) LineswBlanks = ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropertyLines)
NumOfTables = ActiveDocument.Content.Tables.Count If NumOfTables > 0 Then For x = 1 To NumOfTables With ActiveDocument.Content.Tables.Item(x) NumOfRows = NumOfRows + .Rows.Count End With Next TableRowCount = NumOfRows End If If CharsStrict > 0 Then ParaswBlanks = ActiveDocument.Range(wdMainTextStory).Paragraphs.Count Else ParaswBlanks = 1 End If If LineswBlanks > 1 Then LineswBlanks = LineswBlanks + 1 End If If ParaswBlanks = 1 And ParasWOBlanks = 1 Then BlankLines = 0 Else BlankLines = ParaswBlanks - ParasWOBlanks End If LinesWOBlanks = LineswBlanks - BlankLines Count = LinesWOBlanks MsgBox "Lines Strict (with typing) = " & CStr(Count + TableRowCount) End Sub
Is the em dat (?) program user friendly - can you make lines - complicated to learn?nm
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You can set Word to not count blank lines by changing your paragraph style
to automatically double space after the paragraph.
Ask for a sample report. Count the gross lines on a full page. Then
figure out the line rate you want to make. For example, if there are 30 lines on the page and you would want to charge $0.15 per line, then that would be $4.50 per page. If they would like your hourly rate, figure out how many pages you think you can transcribe in an hour. Using the above example, if you can transcribe 4 pages per hour, then charge $18.00 per hour. In California the going transcription rates are approximately $22-$25 per hour.
FYI I HAVE reference books, but in case you hadn't noticed, thing change a lot faster than BOOKS
I was simply asking for suggestions of other places on line that I might look for the latest info, especially considering that my work is on the internet, what the hell is wrong with trying to be more productive and efficient?!?! Good Grief!!
I prefer books. I'm kinda old school. I like to be able to write new terms in my books. I do
have Stedman's Medical Dictationary on CD and I do use it quite a bit, but that's more because the actual print dictionary is so darn heavy to pick up and look a word up! ![](https://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/cutelaugh.gif)
I like Quicken as well. (sm)
If you would have said budgeting, I think these programs fall fall short, but for what you want, Quicken is the best.
HP/Quicken/Norton outsource
I agree. My printer/fax machine died and had to get a new one. There was a piece in the way so that I could not get the ink in, so had to call Customer Service. Two hours later, with understanding only 1/3 of what he said, I finally got the information I needed. My computer crashed on me (not a good year), had to call HP and Norton, both of which use India for their Customer Service - finally went and bought a new computer as got no help. Couldn't get my Quicken loaded, so called the help desk, and guess what! He was not understanding my question/problem at all. It's like I cannot get into that part or I would not be asking for help! Finally, a friend of mine helped me and got into it so I could do a backup to restore my data. I am sick of this so-called "service", and sure hope American companies, hospitals in particular catch on soon before our whole world crashes down on us.
I absolutely LOVE Quicken....
Just started using it this year, and don't know why I never used it before. Now I won't live without it. javascript:editor_insertHTML('text',' ');
I use Quicken Home & Business.
One of the things that I like about this software is that I can keep a track of both my business and home checking accounts in the same program without having to flip back and forth. It is a little on the pricey side, but you can import the data right into Turbo Tax (if you use that program for doing your taxes) and the software cost is a tax-deductible expense.
Link below.
Quicken or Microsoft Money
Which one do you like better?
Quicken Home and Business.
It will do what you mention. I use it and really like it.
Work for 1 hour, then count your lines of the completed work - sm
either check you total characters in word (with spaces) then total them all up and divide by 65, and you get your total lines per hour. 10,000/65 is 153 lines. Or if you have a line counting program us that to figure you count, either way will work quite well. Maybe do it a few times and then figure an average over 3 hours or something like that, it will vary with the ease/difficulty of the work you are doing.
Calculating lines using Word Count in Word
I have recently started a job where lines are calculated using the Microsoft Word word count tool. I think I read that you get cheated out of lines if a company counts this way. Is this true?
I think it's pretty easy. And I think is mis-typed. I use Quicken for Home & Business.
I am by no means an accounting-type person. I keep EVERYTHING in this program. I used to always have my checkbook screwed up. Now, I don't even bother with trying to keep a balance written in my checkbook register because I do everything from her. I have automatically scheduled transactions, reminders and bills set up. I actually now have a budget (unheard of before).
As far as invoicing, I have found it to be very easy. I would say my favorite feature is the ability to email invoices directly from the program to clients, saving me postage and the hassle of delayed payments because of PO delivery problems.. Another plus for me is that I have to collect sales tax and it set that up for me automatically when I set up my business--this makes it very easy for me to figure out my tax due each quarter.
Another plus is that you can set up Quicken to automatically download bank transactions every day so I can stay on top of what's going on with my money. It keeps me from missing those pesky ATM transactions that my husband makes in the family account!
I have never found a program shorthand does not work with, it works outside the program (I think tha
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Take the character count divded by 65 and that will give you your line count.
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PRD is a DOS program. I don't think it work with Word, a Window's program.
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I would have to separate by category!
first 3 that come to mind are: The Notebook, Hope Floats and Sweet Home Alabama (SHA didn't get rave reviews, but I just loved that movie!)
ET, Titanic and Forrest Gump are like classics and you HAVE to love them!
Independence Day, MIB, most of the Marvel (comics) movies, Van Helsing and both Underworlds top my list too!
Oh, and then there is the animated stuff... the list is never ending! (and we own over 400 DVDs!)
Not on a separate line, per se
but separated by paragraphs. It looks something like:
Name #1
Address
City, State, Zip
Name #2
Address
City, State, Zip
...and so on.
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