Depression is an illness. (sm)
Posted By: tnmt on 2007-04-30
In Reply to: This sounds like same I hear when person getting off crack - Darryl
Believe it or not, I understand your feelings about just doing your job day after day and not being appreciated. I think most of us can relate to it; I know when I clean the house or do the laundry, nobody seems to notice, but let me get behind, and boy, howdy all of a sudden I get some attention.
But depression is an ILLNESS, not just a lack of get up and go!!! And a person who suffers from it is hard enough on themselves emotionally without having to hear from people who don't understand it how lazy they are and how undeserving of any support they are.
You need to work on some compassion, and if you can't say anything nice, why say anything at all? If you're feeling underappreciated, for heaven's sake DO something about it. Post on the board that you need some sympathy and you'll get it. We're all in the same boat, really!
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Very sad - but obviously an illness.
Nobody would be drinking at that hour of the day for *fun*. I hope instead of throwing the fines at her they make her go for professional help.
Don't know what your illness is, but
wish you could see some of the doctors I work for. My brother and his wife are both doctors and they are both increcible caring. My uncle goes to Africa every year (on his on dime) to do cleft lip and palate surgeries. Maybe you just need to vent but I don't think it is fair to generalize all.
chronic illness
God bless you. I have systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) and I still work full time, I have a friend diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and she still works full time..Hang in there, honey..You can live with a chronic illness..I have lived with my SLE for 36 years and my friend with multiple sclerosis for 10 years..
Illness/pregnancy
These are supposed to be treated the same - 12 weeks leave - my mother-in-law got sick last year and when she could not go back to work by the date that the hospital specified (she's a nurse) they terminated her from her job - and she had worked at this place for 20 years. I would seek legal advice on this subject before telling anyone at work.
kids and illness
I have ttwokids - 22 and 15, my oldest was born with epilepsy and took them 2 years to find out I was not crazy that something was wrong - he would just fall into a come sleep - no convulsion. Now my 15 year old has an episode - his first and when I rush him to the hospital it takes them 3 hours to be convined he was not on drugs - I know they are doing their job, but not all kids are druggies. i tried to give them a family history and they did not listen until 3 hours later when they got the blood tests back - then they did what they should haev done all along and found out his blood pressure was extremly low, and he probably has a mild hert condition to go alond with his respiratory problems he has had from birth. (heart problems run on both sides, and I have a strong family history of epilepsy too.) Why do all doctors feel that when a kid comes in he must have done something - thank goodness the wait did not cause my son more problems.
An illness? More like a character flaw.
We all have choices to make, and the choices we make define our character. She chooses to drink herself into a stupor and drive a car. She could just as easily choose not to do so. It's all the apologists for drunks, the "it's-an-illness-we-must-not-judge-them" brigade that keep sending the dangerous drunks back out on the road. If someone chooses to drink and drive then kills someone, they have chosen to commit murder and should face the same consequences as any murderer.
Sounds like you are the one with mental illness
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No, you didn't betray him! That's his illness speaking. Second, does he or did he ever drink?
Some folks with drinking problems obviously are also alcoholics, but they don't have to fit the classic "drunk" stereotype. My husband "cycles" as well, probably from bipolar, which is manic depressive - the happy ups and the mean ugly lows. Men tend to self-medicate with alcohol. Also, when an alcoholic is in an abstinent period, which can even often be self decided, no pressure. The drinker just lays off for a while - that mean cycle is a "dry" alcoholic. The original problems remain - the alcohol isn't there to give them their conceived happy "buzz", so they are mean and nasty as they could be as drunks, yet sober. The only way to defeat depression in anyone is by confronting it head-on and NOT letting up. Otherwise, you're then "enabling" their sickness to continue, etc. Sounds more complicated than it is, but its not! You're doing everything right - get help from everywhere, tell everyone you have to, shine light on his behavior, and HOPEFULLY he will be convicted to get help. Otherwise, I agree with the others - pack your bags and move on. It will NEVER get better. It will get worse over time, but you'll get more numb to it... No way to live! I confronted it with my DH - fought viciously for his life, really, and he's a changed healthy man about 10 years down the road. People CAN change, and seek help, and get well, but they have to be confronted with it. Denial is our worst enemy. Good luck to you. I hope this helps.
If he is on disability for a mental illness, why do you even listen to him? He is nuts. Maybe if h
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OK. Now if your husband is bringing you down by his mental illness and not paying rent
(is husband able to work? how deep is this mental illness? did he have money to pay rent and spent it elsewhere?) then maybe you should think about leaving him rather than placing your kids in any kind of foster care. That has to be traumatic but then so does living on the street. Speaking of placing your children in foster care while you get yourself OK in the head, what is your problem at this point. You see, if there is a lot of arguing and a dysfunctional family living on the streets, then foster care to permanent placement may be better for them. I just don't quite understand how you got into this mess and if these are mental health issues on both your part and your husband's I would look into placing the children. BTW, how old are they?
So all things considered if you don't have any issues other than depression because of a lack of a place to live and your husband's mental health, I would go to a family member or church and BEG for help sorting your life out. If there is more than that going on, including maybe substance abuse along with permanent mental health issues that will keep you from caring for your children, yes I would seek placement for them. And I would seek PERMANENT placement rather than foster care which I would think would be more traumatic for your children.
Both. Choice A "can" put you there, but so can a major illness, accident, fire, etc.
with this economy it is harder and harder to work your way out of poverty no matter what the reason for being there is.
After divorce, child chronic illness, involuntary job change, parents illnesses and death, was force
I frequently regret it, the changes it has made to my life, but when life hands you horror, at least there is this "final solution" to your financial situation. I must admit, I sleep better, and I can finally hold my head up, and I no longer feel hopeless. Find the attorney you can work with,get your free consultation and DO WHAT HE TELLS YOU TO DO. If you have doubts, see a 2nd and a 3rd attorney, till you're comfortable with the person you choose.
Dx Manic Depression
My best friend of the past 16 years is manic depressive. She comes from a family who many have either manic depression or bipolar disorder. She is a great person and a truly wonderful friend. Her depression is part of her. At times it can be hard, but not for me... for her. Being there for a friend when they need it is all they you need to do. Regardless of anything. Be supportive. Be all of the things you would be with ANY friend that you have. This is no different.
I certainly don't think transcription causes the depression..
I think that maybe in-home Transcriptionist need to get out more and be part of other things, and the lack of then might bring on the depression. I could see where social anxiety could come into a factor in this lifestyle. That why it is important to join groups and clubs and have interests and friends away from this computer. As for transcription, I enjoying doing what I do and have done for the past 12 years. Yeah, it has it bad points, but do does every job. I probably make more than anywhere else I could around my town, I don't get paid vacations or even a paid sick day, but when I worked in an office It would take an act of congress to get a vacation day approved, so go-figure....
Some people say, "Gosh! I don't know how you do that all day", and my response, Gosh! I don't see how you do what you do all day and you don't make half what I make!!!!!" To each their own. It is more than a job, it is a carreer and when you have a carreer you are continually learning. Knowledge is power no matter what you do. Where else can you be part of the birth a baby or two or three - with one mother who had been trying to have a child 7 times, remove a bullet from a spinal cord of a police officer, counsel a battered homeless wife, help a HIV patient try to find shelter, have a 16 yo MVA patient come in and go through surgery after surgery and then see that he gets discharged home, where else could you be a fly on the wall when all these things are going on and just sit back in wonder and sometimes be thankful, that is not my child or that is not my husband and that is not my parent! And this can all be in one days' work. Never got dirty, did not have to buy any gas and did not have to get dressed up to go to work to be a part of all this. But it was my days' work.
WOW did not mean to get into all that serious stuff there !
How does this presage depression?
It is a possible indication of future inflationary pressure in some isolated market sectors, not by any stretch of the imagination a prediction of depression. There is no evidence offered here that the emerging economies will not continue to expand. Just because India claims the economies of the developed world are a threat to its own economy does not mean it is so. Their economists consistently pursue an anti-Western agenda for reasons wholly unrelated to economic reality. China's economy can absorb significantly more expansion and their rising wealth will, indeed, stimulate demand for imported goods and services. They will eventually recognize that allowing their currency to find its own level on the world market is in their best economic and political interest. That will go a long way toward rationalizing perceived trade imbalances. No need to panic.
I took it for situational depression.
I was on it for about a week when I became suicidal and became consumed with trying to figure out a way how to do it. My DH had to call me every hour to make sure I was okay. Also my libido went to ZERO. Both are common side effects of this particular drug, though obviously no everyone has them.
manic depression
I could use some advise. I have much experience with manic depression - my mother was excessively depressed, etc. My problme is that my fiance has an adult daughter who is also a manic depressant, who is also extremely hypochondriac - she has had as she states - cancer, ovairan cysts, endometriosis, migraines, shoulder rotator cuff tears - you name it she has had it - however when we runn all over to multplie doctors - she goes to several - and they run tests, er visits etc, and noone finds anything, she gets manic and really goes off. She does use multiple medications, pain and otherwise - and I belive she is addicted to the pain meds. We now have her going to our family doctor, and she has signed papers for us to have disclosure to information and again - nothing is ever found. Because they are doctors - when she complains, of course they have to run tests, but this is getting costly - the insurance companies do now want to pay - and it is now depressing my fiance, he does not know what to do. I have been able to handle her and show her ina round about way that I am aware of what she is doing, so she becomes a bit more honest with me, but not to herself or others. Now she will not talk to me. That is okay - as a MD I know she will come around soon. My questions is - how do we get her to a psychiatrist that will get through to her and help her. She goes to one only rarely and she is not honest with him either. I believe that she has much more than manic depression and want to get her help. I need some serious suggestions. Has anyone gone through this and gotten the help they need.
manic depression
Does she see a psychologist? This would really help her in helping her accept her disease. Are all the other diseases an excuse to be able to say that she isn't manic depressive. Also she sounds a little manipulative. How old is she. Also there are support groups such as NAMI that help people with mental illness
Manic Depression. sm
I have had experience with a family member with bipolar disorder, also. Unfortunately, it's probably one of the most difficult situations I personally have ever experienced. So, let me say first off, good luck to you. (And I mean that in a very sincere way.)
If she is taking pain meds regularly along with her bipolar meds, the bipolar meds don't stand a chance. It's just like drinking alcohol habitually while taking them. No way can they be effective.
You asked for help and I wish I could tell you exactly what to do. I can't. I will say, however, to get her off of the other meds and do it now. She needs serious counseling, not what a psychiatrist provides, but a psychologist or simple counselor. The psychiatrists we saw simply wrote the scripts, made a few suggestions, and stuck out a bill. In-depth professional counseling will do her a world of good.....and this is, once again, only if she's off those other meds.
I do wish you the best of luck. Keep your patience; you're going to need it. Let us know how it goes, okay?
Yes it was due to depression and I realize that....
How cruel you are. I AM not a crack addict - I have NEVER done drugs. I don't drink. I don't even smoke. I do have a child that was involved in this tragedy. Actually I had two - the one that I lost. So I am sorry if I was "weak" for the tragedies that I did go through but I am learning to cope with life. Life is hard and apparently it is sunshiney everyday at your house - and good for you - I don't want to wish anything bad on anyone - even when they have no lack of respect for others. You should watch what you say - things could turn around on you in your happy life in an instant - and then what would you do. Would you be considered lazy, worthless or something else that is an undeserving gesture of who you really are? Maybe someone will say "they are just on crack - they deserve what they are getting. Maybe that just goes to show what laziness will do to you. They don't deserve anything better." I was not asking for sympathy. I was pointing out how fast things CAN turn around when you are off track. Merely using my fall to try to prevent someone else's.
I do thank all of the wonderful remarks prior to the rude post. I am healing but it takes times. I am actually able to get up and not be sad about what I have lost and I have been able to THANK GOD every day for letting me grow through certain things in my life and that I know they happened for a reason. The reason will be a brighter future!
Type of depression
Could it be suicidal depression?
Clinical depression
You better believe depression is real! It exists in my family and among my closest friends, and it is a painful and frustrating disease. Diabetes is often used as an analogy to compare to depression. I think it is a good one because a) diabetes is a real illness and no amount of "sucking it up" will help the body produce insulin, b) it can be treated with medication but not usually cured, and c) lifestyle adjustments coupled with medication help most diabetics feel better and function well. The same are true of depression.
Have you checked into a local county/city community services organization? There should be something available that charges fees according to your income. You need not be on welfare or Medicaid to be eligible. Go through the local government pages of your phone book and see. Call any social services type number and they can put you in touch with what you need.
Are you able to consider borrowing money from someone for a short time? Once you are under treatment you will certainly be able to pay it back quickly as you have all kinds of ability to make a living; it is just that your illness has made you disabled currently.
Also, please try to talk to someone sympathetic personally. The human touch of personal contact is so superior to what can be offered on-line. You could tell them what you have said here, or if that seems to be too strenuous, print out your post here and show it to someone, let them read it. It might break the ice and allow you to feel more comfortable speaking to them about it. The person you talk to need not be the one with the answers, right now they need to be the one who will listen and encourage you.
Many of us will continue to listen here as well, but you really need a live person in front of you to open up to at some point. It really will help, if you can do it.
My thoughts and prayers are with you for your success in treating this awful disease.
Depression Is Real
The neighbor has a wireless Internet connection that is not password protected I can pick up on.
And to anyone who thinks depression does not exist or is all just a thought in your head you're dead wrong. I would assume anyone in the medical profession would realize that.
Do you think little kids get depressed and cut themselves because they are not making enough money? Kids don't think or care about that.
I appreciate the warm thoughts and advice from everyone here but please don't say that you don't believe in depression. "Take a shower, get up and go get a job" is easier said than done.
Afraid of another depression in USA
all of the above, and tinnitus, depression. (nm)
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You are very ignorant about depression and antidepressants...SM
The drugs you list are NOT "happy" pills and are NOT addicting. They correct a chemical imbalance in the brain and (hopefully) allow the depressed person to feel somewhat NORMAL again. They are not uppers as you imply.
Unless you've experienced the living hell that is clinical depression and the wonders these medications can do, keep your mouth shut.
I suffer from seasonal depression
and am using light therapy. This has been about two or three weeks now, and I cannot believe the difference in my mood. It is wonderful. I put in a fluorescent light fixture in my office that takes four 4-foot bulbs I bought bulbs at Home Depot. They had a large selection. I bought ones that say they imitate sunlight. Now working under them for my regular shift, I have felt a huge difference in my mood. I thought I was going to have to go on medication, but now I feel so much better.
what board for support for depression? sm
My job is totally getting to me and I thought there was a support board on here... I could use someone to talk to. TIA for any info.
weight gain and depression!!! nm
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Depression linked to excessive computer use.
About 3 years ago, before deciding on becoming an MT, there was an article--I am currently looking for it now--which stated that people who use a computer for excessive amounts of time are more likely to suffer from depression. Anxiety can also be caused by depression. So, I think all can be correct.
I think the most important thing is to try to stay active. With me, I have to have a second job, so I think that helps keep me in a social situation. I just hope maybe years down the road it doesn't affect me.
No clue but try the emotion/depression board
http://www.forumatrix.com/ads/frame.cgi?action=main&target=www.forumatrix.com/Health/b/4.html
Try this board as you may get more of a response from people who may know.
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Please help on depression board. I put the link inside.
tell her if she really does have PP depression, coming home won't fix a thing.
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Depression? Brings our jobs home
I personally think we are headed for a depression. I believe in our gung-ho desire to improve our trade partners (invest in our country so we could continue to export our debt) we mistakenly sent our jobs overseas. Now, facing high unemployment, we need our jobs back. Therefore, I am asking that you contact your local congresspeople and request that our jobs be brought back from foreign countries, thus increasing domestic production and increasing the number of jobs. This is the perfect time to do this. In order to come out of a depression, we have to increase production. We cannot export all production and having to produce. Believe me, now is the time to request our jobs be brought back to the U.S. The alternative is extremely bleak, and your elected officials know it.
Left out depression, anxiety, becoming a hermit...
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Did your mom grow up in the depression? Woman I worked with did the same thing.
party at her home. Low and behold she had a whole room full of toilet tissue she has spirited away from the office over the 30 years!!!! She had grown up in the depression and I guess it was a big deal to have toilet tissue. She sure hoarded it.
Prozac was great! Took for depression for 10 yrs! Saved my life. nm
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I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that she has manic depression. Was she diagnosed
with this? From what I read, it doesn't sound like manic depression to me. Sure, she has some issues going on there, major depression would be a pretty good guess, but does she have any manic episodes?
My ex-husband and ex-mother-in-law were both bipolar which is the new and improved way to say manic depressive and they were the exact opposite of hypochondria. During the manic phase, they felt like they ruled the world. According to them, they had never felt better, thought more clearly, or got more done, but the exact opposite was true. They never slept. They never finished anything they started. They were incoherent at times, basically jumping from one subject to the next so you could not carry on any kind of coherent conversation with them. Sometimes they were even delusional - my mother-in-law thought she was in love with a televangelist and divorced her husband and moved to be closer to the televangelist. My ex-husband thought he was the victim racism when he got a speeding ticket. He claimed the officer had something against Hispanics. Nevermind that my husband was maybe one-eight Mexican on his mother's side and has a German last name.
Those are just a couple of examples of manic behavior. It can even be more bizarre. I could write a book based on what I've seen first hand and it can be very scary.
Good luck, my husband suffers from depression, which he acknowleges, but do something about it,NO-sm
He did actually go the doctor who prescribed Xanax and Lexapro, this was back in March just before my daughter got diagnosed with the Wilm's....to date he has not taken 1 pill. He does talk about it now and then but he is afraid of how the pills will make him feel and of ED too, plus he hates pills in general, can't even get him to take an aspirin/Advil when he has a headache. When he is in one of his "moods" it's pretty horrible for about a week or so, though they are getting better. Had a very long dry spell of 6+ months then wham, he got really bad, and it's been no bed of roses lately with it either but I think we are in a mend phase right now so we will see how it goes. All I can say is try to get him first acknowledge he has a problem, then off to the doctor of course and hopefully if he is prescribed meds for him to actually take them. I have tried to think of ways I could "slip him a Mickey" but that is not going to work and he needs to do it on his own anyway. I hope it works out for you (and me too!)
you can be Sam-E solo and it is great with depression/mood swings. valerian root and/or melatonin b
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Yes, she had post partum depression AND post partum psychosis. I posted on this a while back, and
it explained the two. The psychosis actually develops after the depression. Scary stuff.
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