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Could you be in the wrong profession? Nutz is a pretty bad price to pay.

Posted By: Is the pay worth it? on 2005-08-09
In Reply to: Maybe some, but I do. However, I have MTs that don't and GUESS at stuff. - Drives me nutz!

Or is it the title you like? Quality Assurance. Sounds good on paper. As If.


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Wow, maybe you are in the WRONG profession then, you think? nm

Wrong profession?

I know there was a post about this yesterday, but I did not want to taker hers over.  I am just wondering if I can really do this.  I have been doing this 3 years and have been at the same company.  I just got back 5 reports this morning that just have me almost in tears.  Granted, some of my mistakes were stupid and should not have been made.  But, others that were sent back to me I really have issues with.  Some of the "mistakes" were not typing "Jane Doe" in the report instead of typing "the patient," which directly goes against my account instructions.  Also, was told not to expand an abbreviation in the diagnosis section because my account is verbatim.  I just do not agree with this!!!!  Plus, had different instructions on the same thing.  The QA is totally inconsistent, and let the QA manager know what I thought of some of their changes. 


I do think that I am a good MT.  I have a new position starting with a great company soon, and I just want to know that I really can do this!!!  Any advice??


There is nothing wrong in saying that about this profession
because I am 1 of the over 30 years the OP specifically asked to respond to this and who know what it was like before. I started in the 70s and then paid incentive plus an hourly salary and was really proud of having that under my belt. Left that hospital after 10 years and moved on to the next hospital, my gravy train supreme here. There were 2 transcriptions for the entire place and I made really big money there, base salary, incentive and hello, weighted dictators that we even got more money on for transcribing. I was buying stock in that hospital chain and bought just as much as my pay allowed every 2 weeks. Human Resources made mention 1 day of how much I made and told them no worries to the hospital, only 2 of us for the entire place. Outsourced to a company that basically would not quote a price they were going to pay us so I said thanks, no thanks and started to beat the pavement looking for the next job. Another hospital, 30 thousand less than the first place to start but hey, needed a job. Worked way up there, salary, incentive and then VR comes along. Taught that and outsourced to where it is now. I know what a gravy train is, have ridden before, went on down the tracks and places now offering 3 cents a line for VR work. Soon the MTer will be paying a company to work for them at this rate.
I think you're in the wrong profession - write soap operas!!
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The price of gasoline is reflected in the price of goods. Having said that, one item
higher, MOMENTARILY, than Walmart, does not really make a case against Walmart. You want to make Walmart a bad guy because they don't have a shopper out there matching the grocery stores' price so be it. But MOST people I know shop at Walmart for lower groceries prices AS A WHOLE, and that is what makes Walmart successful. So buy your cheaper Bounty towels at your grocery store if that makes you happy. Your grocery store HAS TO MAKE MONEY and they will get you on something else. It is the retail law. Walmart will not be successful with higher prices than the grocery store. They aim to succeed. They have been sucessful in undercutting other stores. Your Bounty towels will not bring down the Walmart empire but it may cause you to shop at your grocery store where they will charge you more on other items to stay in business. Quit the knee-jerk responses. If you don't like Walmart and don't want to shop there that's all well and good. If you don't shop there because of Bounty towels, well that's just crazy.
Same here!! They get so nutz on here. Could you imagine
what it would like to put all these same women in the same room? It could go one of 2 ways..sweet as pie to one another OR .......AAAH!! Oops i think i splt thgs rihgt up three!! LOL
i used to like brad until angelina. what's up with that. she is CRAZY as in NUTZ
Can't forget image of Angelina lip kissing her brother for an extended period of time and then there was Billy Bob and the vial of his blood she wore around her neck. I just think Brad might be crazy by association.
With all due respect, I think you are spltting hairs and slightly nutz.
"spin" truth? hardly. i feel sorry for your family dealing with this nitpicking on a daily basis.
Am I willing to accept the US government outsources my tax return? Are you nutz?

What the bleep do you expect US citizens to do?  Overthrow the government?  It's the friggin LAW the politicians made. 


Regarding identity theft - ANYBODY can steal your identity.  It doesn't have to be someone overseas.  Welcome to the real world.


 


wrong, wrong, wrong. work is being outsourced because of $. period. not because of unqualified MTs
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This is our profession -- a profession which is dying, I might add. SM

So I should get a hobby so I won't care, like you?  A hobby isn't going to pay the bills.  I can't afford a hobby because in addition to working for a living, I also have to study in a different career field in my spare for fear that eventually transcription will be strictly an offshore operation!


I think I'm pretty bright and pretty good, too, but
I am not a CMT. I am a medical transcriptionist who enjoys her job very much (most days). I have chosen not to pursue certification simply because I cannot afford to do so. I believe the certification is a nice thing to have, but I don't believe it is necessary for employment or for excellence in my job. If you can afford it, go for it. If you can't, don't feel too bad. You can still take pride in and do a very good job without it.
OMG, you FORGIVE Walmart shoppers? Are you nutz. Did Walmart
put an over-priced small business owner out of business. What is your PROBLEM?

I see old people who would otherwise not have a job smiling and happy with Walmart. I see undereducated people who do not look employable working at Walmart. Walmart employs millions of Americans who may otherwise be on public assistance.
I typed a report on the wrong patient as the doc keyed in the wrong info, SM
He later said the correct patient's name and I SWEAR to this day I made the changes but somehow the report when through without the correct patient and changes made. I still remember that incident.
Fantasia wrong??? Haven't seen the OP's CD, couldn't have been too wrong.
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It's about morality - not censorship! Right is right and wrong is wrong!
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No, it is NOT your price to pay SM

unless you continue to allow the "price" to be extracted from you.  There are companies out there who value what you have to offer.  Sounds like it is time for a heart-to-heart with your current company regarding at least being adequately compensated for doing all the crap dictation (believe me, they KNOW you are doing it) and if that fails...MOVE ON.


I feel for you and I hope this helps but if you continue to allow yourself to be used/abused to the point it is ruining your life...sorry but don't look to me for sympathy, you DO have options and working at Mickey D's is not the only option.


Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea, but I
still recommend them.  Better than paying a big bill.   I average 8000 minutes a month and they do not complain at all. 
Price
It's around 12 cents where I am. However, this is a red flag that they are looking and you should be looking for a new client and dump them. Believe me, they will dump you if they're thinking about it. Too bad, if you're good, good ones are hard to find but they have to find that out the hard way. The buck is top priority. Good luck to you.
Where did you get the price?
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Sure am. The price of EVERYTHING is going up and
the taxes are through the roof, but my pay would go DOWN if I didn't work longer and harder to make the same amount. This really isn't good! but it's life, so we plug along and live (or at least WORK).
My price - PS

I know my prices sound low but it is gross line and a letter is counted from the date to the signature line and blank lines count.  That is the way that the company did  prior to me taking the account over, very upfront about it and I continue to do the same and everyone knows about it.  So that is why my rate to them in .115 per line but it adds up as they are surgeons.  They prefer looking at the lower rate per line.  I know it is the "old way" of counting lines -- use word and take the total amount of lines and that is my line count.  Now you know why I don't want to give up this account.  


 


Best was would be to price it out..sm
DHL, UPS, rental the smallest U-haul trailer and drive it home. Network with fellow MTs and see if anyone from that area is headed your way?
price

To me it seems a little low, depends on if you get a lot of consults or if it is just patient notes.  Psych consults can have a lot of tests that take a while to set up in a template but once set up, as long as the dictators dictate them the same way, you can use them.   My psych account I do for 11 cpl gross line and we have just converted over to digital.  Used to pick up and E-mail back.  But I do not have 24 TAT, I pick up on Th/Fri and have to have back by Weds night.  Also depends on how may dictators you have and if you can do normals, templates, etc.  Also each doc could want the same test set up differently.   But you have it now, see how it goes and go from there.  If you find it is too low, tell them and up it.  Again, depends on if it is chart notes or consults.   Sounds like you will be having your hands full to say the least.  Congrats and best of luck.   I do two psych, one for ADD children/adults and one that does a lot of consults for traumatic brain problems/cognitive and voc rehab.   


Patti


I think the price was too low.

somewhere around 11 would have been fair.  Of course they say, you only press a button and it pops up. I had a doc tell me about how he dictates the same paragraph with his normals and wanted a discount because of that. I told him he could just add in that part when he got the report back, since it was so easy.


In your presentations, keep talking quality when your clients are talking cheap. Show them how nice the finished product is and tell them you would be happy to work with the docs to help them make templates for redundant work so that --here's the kicker-- they don't have to dictate the same thing over and over again.  Sell that the technology is for their benefit to make their lives easier. And again, when they say the little "but you only have to" just smile and say, how about if your staff just adds that when it comes back then...


Don't feel bad about underbidding. Do a really, really good job - spend some time in the office developing a relationship so they know you are a real person. I like to take my kids with sometimes when I drop by so they know when they sign the check, it's not going to a corp but to a family.  Go high end on the service, get it set up so it works real good, then raise your rates. You asked about a fair rate and this rate is not fair to you.


Email me with any other questions. We can talk over some of your options and do some trouble shooting.


 


Not for that price
$18+/hour. I make more as an MT, but I would not consider anything less. I took a cheapy $14/hr QA job and the owner treated me like dirt. No way.
Seems to me for the price of the
book that AAMT should have used spell check before sending it to the publisher. After all, they are the ones who make all the rules, or are they exempt?
price is $30, not $70....
She is saying she can download the e-book for $30. The paper book is over twice that much. The e-book is worth that, in my opinion. With the book, you are going to look something up in it twice a year and it will collect dust the rest of the time. The e-book, being right on the computer, *might* get used more often.
Welcome to the profession. Get used to it.
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Consider another profession?
To standardize testing you have to have every single company use one lone resource. What if company A is more concerned with ESL skills, company B is more concerned with oncology, and company C would like to know whether you rock at op notes? How do you standardize testing to cover every area that a given employer might want to concentrate on?
Definitely a profession. This is a
you will get a lot of pessimism and negativity.  I definitely have made tons of money in my own business.  Sounds like low self-esteem on the posters below, unhappy, depressed.
This is not just in this profession but
all over. I sat and waited on a call yesterday (my off day) regarding a piece of property I have up for sale. No call at all. I really hate to leave a message on a recording because most of the time you are ignored. Times have changed and not for the good. I think the majority of my family including my mother and my grandmother who are deceased would probably be shocked at today's life as we live it.
which profession
would you let us know what you decided to do? I'm wondering what I want to do next.
re: which profession
Dental Hygiene...usually takes 2 years but have to do it part time so I can still earn a living so is taking me 4 - I'm more than halfway done though, so can't complain...
our profession

This is old, but has anyone read this??  I must research further what the final outcome was.  While I totally agree with what they are doing and why, I totally DISAGREE with their final recommendation for standardizing line counts. VBC is not the way to do it.  


 


 


You ask anybody in any profession
They will say they are worth more than they are being paid. That's the way it is everywhere. I make good money sitting at home. My local hospital pays their transcriptionists 9.40/hr. Big deal! I'll rather stick with a MTSO any day.
Our profession/New job

About three weeks ago I began a position with a local health care company (transcribing for local acute care hospitals but part of a national chain).


We are not really transcribing, at least not by my definition (21 years of experience).  Rather, we are recording medical ShortHand (abbreviations [even in DIAGNOSES section], shortened medication names, slang, contractions, etc.).  On the one hand, they claim they want you to type it verbatim (no expansions, additions, etc.), yet OTOH they say to delete redundancies, repetitions, etc., which is hardly verbatim. We are not allowed to expand, add to, or correct ANYTHING except number and tense dictated by ESL docs, who comprise about 60% of the dictators.  In addition, certain dictated terms are to be abbreviated (e.g., "emergency room" transcribed as "ER").


The supervisor had the gall to look me right in the eye and deliver a harangue about how these are "legal documents, and we have to transcribe EXACTLY what they say."  (Conveniently disregarding the bit about deleting redundancies and the other "allowed" changes.)  So ALL of my previous employers, AAMT, etc. did it wrong, and THEIR crackerjack legal department is smarter than everyone else?!     Don't think so.  Cutting costs is the game they're playing; everyone can see that.


Excerpt from a typical report looks like this:  Wrote scrip for vanco 100, patient also to take aspirin 81 and will return next week. I don't think .... [blah blah blah]


AAMT taught me to create a complete, coherent, grammatically correct document that doesn't look like alphabet soup.  Needless to say, I don't feel good about what I am creating and HATE THIS JOB!!


I'm just curious if this is happening elsewhere.  With all of the emphasis on "cutting costs,"  I have to think that it is.


Thanks for listening to my splenic venting.


I repeat, the price of everything, the value of nothing.nm
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Often I think they lie about price, thinking they can
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Fair price?
I just picked up a new account today but was so unsure of what to tell them in regards to price.  It is a psych account, PHP program, and they said they dictate on a total of 150 patients per week at 2 facilities.  They said if all goes well, they have 6 more facilities they can add.  I was really scared of giving too high of a price and not getting the account, but I also don't want to get ripped off either.  I have quoted prices that were too low in the past and really suffered for it.  Anyway, I ended up quoting them 0.08 a gross line, which I think is totally fair.  They will be using digital recorders and they will be printing the work.  What do y'all think??  I want to feel confident about this.... 
price per page

We may be going to a per page in paying our at home typists.  However, it has been a long time since I did this.  What is the current rate per page (the employer) to pay for imaging transcription??


price per page

 I may have to outsource some work to ICs  what is the going rate for a company to pay for radiology reports, I was told 1.75 to 2.00 does that sound right.  I hate doing line counts.  Any thing will help. 


Thanks


price of gas and daycare
I have a 30 mile round trip to my job. After being home for a few years on and off, it finally hit home that I needed bennies. So I bit the bullet and went to work at a hospital doing acute care. I take the bus every day. Much cheaper per week to ride the bus than putting gas in my car and my boss lets me flex my time as needed. I made a list of pros and cons and the bennies were the deciding factor as they are excellent. Much better than what I had which was zippo...Good luck in whatever you decide to do.
Give them to him for a price.
Calculate how much time and energy went into making those and charge accordingly.  You deserve your money.
price per page
What would you charge per page for radiology reports?  You know some are a few lines for hands, feet, etc. and others (CT, MRI) are lengthy.  sk
Great price ... does it come in
colors other than white? Laser printer quality? Or just ink jet quality? My client used to use sticky paper but decided after a couple of years it was not cost effective and switched to regular paper. They might be interested in switching back at this price. Thanks in advance!
Price per hour...sm
Depending upon the complexity of the dictation it can take anywhere from three to six hours.  If there are multiple speakers it would be on the high end.  The question should be can I work for 4 to 6 hours for $60?  That works out to $15 ph for 4 hours and only $10 ph for 6 hours work.  Definitely expect to spend more time than you think on any given dictation as the contractor will always tell you it's "easy". If they are paying by the "hour" instead of by the line or page you will be the one taken advantage of!  I, for one, cannot work for less than $20 ph.  Nor should we.  We're educated medical language specialists. 
Yay, a new one! Might get a good price, too, with
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are these always $15, this is not a sale price?
Radio Shack rocks for the stuff I need. Especially when I can get memory chips for my digital camera dirt cheap. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL AND TO ALL GOOD NIGHT.
Great price if you have a Mac
but I have XP. I wonder if it's the same program for both. Thanks for the update though! I used it last night and it's a pretty nice program. Again, thanks!
That the price of the barrel has gone DOWN a lot! nm
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