College education and outsourcing
Posted By: Hot and sunny on 2006-06-17
In Reply to: certainly going back to college doesn't protect from outsourcing.. - JoV
Radiologists' jobs are moving to India as well. Engineers also. Any type of medical degree that does not involve direct patient care can and is being exported.
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You don't owe your children a college education at all.
My personal advice to my own children was/is this: As long as you want to invest your effort and energy, I will help you past high school in getting an education.
If you stay home while you attend and keep good grades, I will provide your transportation, you can live here rent-free, eat here, and we will work together to make sure you have all your college expenses paid for and have some pocket money.
If you choose to live out, as long as I see you are keeping your grades, I will give you a limited set amount of financial aid.
However, if you feel I owe it to you or you fail to respect my effort to assist you, then you are on your own.
I also tied their inheritance to their achievements. The more they do for themselves and the higher the education, the greater the percentage of their inheritance. If they felt it wasn't necessary to prepare themselves now, don't count on my estate assisting them later.
It is hard to let them make these mistakes sometimes but the more painful it is for them, the quicker they learn. Doesn't take but touching the hot stove once for a kid to realize I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN!!
How about your local community college and save a heap of money & get just as good of an education?
certainly going back to college doesn't protect from outsourcing..
one of the first things that went to India was accounting...
there's all kinds of *education* and education
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Education
Also, every other civilized country has a better education system than the U.S. We graduate people who cannot read and write. I only hire Canadian MTs by choice anymore, because with a mere high school equivalent education they're leagues ahead of their U.S. counterparts.
When we moved from Canada to the U.S. (I was a child), my siblings felt like they had jumped BACK 5 years in school and quickly became bored and disinterested, while they achieved straight As in Canada.
Education is not a priority here, yet we gripe when jobs go to more educated countries.
Again, I guess it comes down to our vote.
Healtchare and education are not priorities in this country.
You need a little bit of an education.sm
Homosexuals, pedophilia, nymphos, etc, etc. all fall into the category of deviant, aberrant, and perverted behavior. They are not born that way,they choose to be perverts. No 5 year old knows they are a homosexual, they certainly could become psychologically disturbed after some pervert/deviant did something to them at that age or before that.
Try education
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a little self-education goes such....SM
SNAKES
Many people share misconceptions about snakes. In reality, the large majority of them are harmless, gentle creatures that provide valuable service in controlling rodent populations around our farms and homes.
The snakes most likely to be seen in our area are garter snakes and gopher snakes, both harmless. King snakes and rattlesnakes are encountered much less frequently. The gopher snake's superficial resemblance to the rattlesnake often creates problems for it, but they can actually be told apart fairly easily. Although the gopher snake will vibrate its tail, it has no rattles, the unique property of the rattler. The gopher snake also has round pupils in its eyes like ours, while the rattler's pupils are elliptical, or pointed like a cat's.
The rattler is the only snake to be avoided in California, and this is not difficult. When hiking or climbing, wear boots and avoid placing hands and feet in places where you cannot see. If you should encounter a rattlesnake or any snake, your best course of action is to back off and allow the snake a way to retreat, which they will generally quickly do. Should someone be bitten by what you believe to be a rattler, attempt to kill the snake if this can be done without delay and take it along to aid in identification. Immediately take the bitten person to the nearest hospital, where healthy people usually recover quickly from such a bite with treatment.
Most snakes are harmless and helpful, and should never be killed unnecessarily, as the benefits they provide are considerable.
http://www.suisunwildlife.org/tips.html#snakes
It all comes down to education. SM
This is my opinion of course, so slam me if you wish or agree with my beliefs. Our society has gone so "far out there" with regard to morals in regard to the welfare system for example. Our young women in this country, not all, but many (particularly the lower income areas) feel their most important goal in life is to have babies and get money from the government. They have multiple babies from different men and are not even sure who their children's biological fathers are. These kids grow up and continue the vicious cycle. In doing so, the lack of education that many U.S. citizens get is ridiculous. It does not take money to get a solid education, but many women (and men) choose the easy road with the welfare system. No government policies put a stop to this, which I believe is just a crush to the hard working and educated part of the population who are successful citizens in their lives. There may be poverty in foreign countries, but not by the citizens choice. India citizens, for example, are very intelligent and educated and willing to be successful in careers. No, I do not agree with outsourcing our work, and the company I work for does not outsource. My point is that standards and morals in many parts of the U.S. stink, for which I blame the lazy, uneducated people working the system, and the government policies that allow this to happen. (Yes, there are those on Medicaid who truly are disabled and need the support. I am not even referring to those individuals). The middle class should be rewarded for working hard, but instead the lower class just gets more and more given to them via support by the government. If this continues, our jobs will be significantly overtaken by foreign countries.
Where I am, if you have the education and
experience, it pays better than MT. Oddly enough, last I heard, no program could code as well as a person, and because profits are involved instead of harder- to-appreciate quality, those who hire have no choice but to care about quality when it comes to coding. The proof is all in the numbers. Put another way, MTs cost money, coders find money. But where I am, the education is stressed more also, and you have to work on-site for the hospitals here (last I heard).
Do you have any MT education, did you
get a certificate? You need to start there first if not. Otherwise you should list your resume on the various free job boards.
You don't know anything about MY education
Question my actions all you want, but let's leave the personal comments out of it, okay?
I could give you a run-down on my "education" but that is not the point here. I asked a question about something I had not dealt with before, and asked how other MTs handle it. I did not ask for personal comments or slurs.
Education is everything - sm
Point them in the direction of a GOOD school. I am talking one of the Big 3. You get what you pay for. I graduated from M-Tec 8 years ago and have been working from home ever since doing acute care. When I did QA I saw successful graduates also come out of Andrews. People from schools outside of the Big 3 were so ill-prepared it was impossible for them to keep a job. They are the ones who come here begging for someone to give them a chance. Many, many companies will waive the 2 years' experience requirement because the education received at these schools is that good. I had recruiters banging my door down to test when I graduated. Check out the good schools! 
Proper education? LOL
This is not a regulated or licensed industry. There is no "proper education".
MT schools give a beginner level of knowledge and maybe a little touch on doing dictation but there's no "proper education" to be had here.
I've done this 25 years. I've never had "proper education". I was trained on the job. I was an EMT when I started my first MT job.
And please, stop comparing MTs and nurses like attorneys and paralegals. Those ARE regulated industries. Certification is necessary and a degree necessary.
Get over yourself. ROFL
Continuing Education
Does anyone know where I can get affordable continuing education to keep my CMT? I need 20 hours before this time next year.
By continuing education, do you mean (sm)
the credits you need to renew your CMT credential? If you are an AAMT member, there are articles in the organization's publications whereby you can earn CEC credits. M-Tec (on line) has a skillbuilding wizard whereby you can earn credits. Is there a local AAMT chapter in your area? This is the easiest way to earn credits, i.e., attending their symposia to earn credits. E-mail me if you need more info.
BA Music Education. nm
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entertaining education...
in looking up a term encountered today, i googled to this page, on Tako-Tsubo cardiomyopathy -- quite informative and fun images....so thought i'd share.
http://www.takotsubo.com/
Education assumptions
Many people assume, because they have have four + years of college and can type well, that of course they would be able to do MT. Unfortunately, this is not the case. There is quite a long learning curve and for a long time, the salary earned by an at-home just starting out MT (IF you can get hired) would not be out of place in a third world country.
I do not believe that being an MT will be viable for many more years. The pay is getting worse and there is less work due to speech recognition and electronic patient records. More and more people are chasing this work (because you will be competing for a job in a global workplace) which, of course, causes the pay to go even lower.
Get experience and more education first.
With your statement that you are pretty confident you can do the work, you tell me that you really have no clue what you are getting into.
You'll save yourself much in finances and in emotional grief if you will go through an AAMT-approved MT training program and utilize that in jumpstarting your career.
EDIT? Since when did we have the education
that the physician does and where do you draw the line??
To help us we use education, research and
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How does one get started with no exp. but has education?
I took the Medical Transcription / Medical Coding program at Blinn College in Bryan, TX and graduated with a 4.0. I have no exp. and the only places I can find all want people with exp. Where should I go look to find part time work??? I am a very fast typist with a high rate of accuracy, I just need a break into the field. Thanks for any suggestions!
My education is better because I learned on the job.
I paid too much for a crappy program that did even come close to preparing me for real-world medical transcription.
What I am saying is this, take a medical terminology course and keep studying after the course is over, take a human anatomy and physiology course, and take an English or have demonstrated skills in language usage and grammar, and then get out there and get a job.
You will learn more on the job then can ever be taught in ANY classroom! Quite frankly, you could order a medical terminology text book and A&P text books and study on your own and be just as prepared as you would paying $4000, 2000, 1200 or whatever to a school.
And yes, I have trained and QA'd Andrews and MTEC graduates and they have sucked eggs just as much as the next newbie MT.
Online education
I'm looking at a company called Future MT for online education. Does anyone know anything about them?
thomson education direct
Can any one tell me about this program for medical transcription? I have started the course, but feel unsure about it. It is it an okay course?
I received an excellent education through M-TEC
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See below thoughts HS education from a 15yo.
The following was written by my son when he started 9th grade at our local high school. My son is very intelligent and has always made high honors through school, but has never really been challenged.
He asked if he could home school and I told him I needed som good reasons that I would find acceptable. He typed up the following synopsis for me:
"You have to get up way too early to go to the school where you only sit around for a half hour and then finally go into a classroom for 1st period where your teacher is not prepared and doesnt start for a good 15 minutes after the bell rings. Then when he finally does start teaching, he doesnt teach over the material that we learned. He doesnt keep track of the homework, barely makes us pass it in, and then tries to give us projects about things he hasnt taught us yet.
2nd period is study hall in the cafeteria with 150 students for 45 minutes where the students just talk and the monitors dont care and the kids that want to get work done cant because they cant concentrate.
3rd period is health. We have all known this stuff since 4th grade and havent learned anything new.
4th period is math, the only class where we learn something new every day, but we dont really learn it, they just expect us to keep what we were told in class in our heads and then we have a test with only a one day review.
5th Study hall again.
6th Lunch
7th Study hall again.
8th Latin. Latin is fun to learn, its a good thing. It would help if the teacher knew how to teach the material. He doesnt even teach, he just says the words in Latin but doesnt give us any meaning and then wants us to translate it into English.
9th English. English is my favorite subject. I really liked the English teacher I had, but she quit the first week of school. We have had 7 substitute teachers in a 6 week period and havent done anything in class, but just sit around while the substitute tries to gather herself.
10th World Geography. Only good thing that I have actually come across about the high school. The teacher knows how to teach. Best Ive ever met, very attentive, very energetic and he gets the whole class into discussions.
Overall summary of the high school is that the education isnt the greatest. The kids are horrible. They like to pick at people. There are all kinds of new kids from the towns that dont have their own high school. Everyone is always grouchy. Its not a really friendly environment at all.
The sophomores, juniors and seniors dont set a good example. There are only about 10 kids out of sophomores, juniors and seniors that actually are respectable and the rest just talk about partying.
They have bad harassment at the school threatening sexual and physical harassment as well as threatening to harm families.
Its difficult for me to learn in this environment.
it is somewhat delusional..he has to want to go in, they pay into the free education the first sm
year they are in..He has to serve his country either while working on getting his education or holding off on his education until he is out. In the Corps, they have classes they need to take to advance their ranks after LCpl. Unless it is his idea to go in, this will never work. He definitely needs to be physically fit. As for the police department..unless he has military background, he needs a 4 year degree then transfer to the academy. Good luck to both of you..its hard when they are trying to find their way. Our town has a jr college that has a co-op with the college most police officers get their degree from..2 years there, transfer to the other college for the last 2 and then automatic admission to the academy.
you need an education cuz you're lacking
While I am quite educated, this below came from a T-shirt someone bought for me years ago because they said the T-shirt reminded them of how I have tried living life and succeeded and taught others the same. (Think about it, have you not met some over-educated people in the life who haven't one lick of common sense?) ENJOY THE READ!! 
SOHK
A good education is an essential part to success. However, one must have a certain respect and admiration for those who have made their marks without the benefit of the traditional university education. The culture that we call street has given birth to some of the most successful and insightful people in the world. Many of us would not be here today were it not for the skills and knowledge we acquired and the dues we paid on the streets. There is no replacement for the street sense and instinct. There is no school tougher than the School Of Hard Knocks.
    
CareerStep. She should start with an MT education.
If she isn't willing to go through formal training, she's just not interested.
Kids education question....sm
Do you think that schools are getting away from teaching curriciulum in general and focusing more on teaching things that are on standardized testing?
My elementary school age child is already getting stressed because the teachers constantly remind them of the CRCT testing that will be given in the spring and if they don't pass, they can't move on to the next grade. Each week we get memos about what type of things are on the test and that is what the kids are working on. Good grief - it's only September and we're worried about tests in the spring and not teaching anything else?
What about your state/area?
An Individual Education Plan
For my child, his pediatrician had us go to Babies Can't Wait (in Georgia), but because he was 3 at the time, they referred us to Gwinnett County Public School System, who performed an evaluation, diagnosed autism, and we now have at least annual IEP meetings to layout the plan for next year (can have a meeting at any time if goals need to be changed, etc.). This is an educational evaluation, not a medical evaluation. They then, of course, recommend a medical evaluation.
Absolutely not. You need an education first. This is REAL JOB. nm
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Education. Business is booming.
Everyone is going back to school. (And you can work from home if you teach over the Internet!)
Becoming a nurse requires education and certification.
MT does NOT. A flying monkey could become an MT with a little training. Some people make it sound as if we're doing brain surgery here. Honestly, we are glorified typists. Anyone who thinks it's more than that is just trying to feel better about being a medical typist. I get slammed all the time for this opinion, but the harsh reality of it is that this is NOT a difficult field to get into IF you have the proper skills. Don't slam someone for being a nurse and wanting to transition to MT. She has more education and certification in the medical field than we do. As long as she has good grammar, spelling, research, and typing skills, SHE WILL DO GREAT!!!! Why do people have to be so egotistical and negative on these boards? We ought to encourage newbies getting into the field instead of telling them it's too difficult or they aren't qualified. Hey, let's just alienate all the newbies and send the work overseas to people who don't have EFL skills.
Well, we can all rest now that Sandy will take care of MT education!
Ya see, Sandra -- She isn't out of touch if she's an MT. She's already working!! ROFL Despite your ominous warnings!!!
However - Please do post a copy of your diploma or certificate of Proper Education for all to see.
We now have a new authority, everyone! Sandra! Sandra will decide if you have had the proper education to be an MT.
I guess the rest of us are just lowly peon MTs who aren't really getting paid and who aren't really working because we never completed Sandy-Dandy's MT School of Proper Education!
Now THAT is hoot!!
We appreciate the laugh, Miss Sandra. Don't want to keep you from your educatin' us MTs in the proper format!
Sounds as preachy and obstinant as some others we've seen on here. Hmmmm.
You honestly think an MT has an education equivalent to a RESIDENT?!?
Oh PUULLEEEEZZZ.
Get over yourself!
LOL!
This is ridiculous. Get an education and become more than an unskilled laborer.
The price of everything will go up if you unionize everyone.
BTW, those "filthy rich" ranch owners had to work hard to position themselves where they are. It's kind of a natural selection thing. People who are smarter eventually succeed and work less hard, while people who aren't so smart break their backs and are poor working harder and harder.
It's life.
Education and instinct. Makes us better than the computer. (nm)
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i took an adult education class for 5 bucks,
in California 33 yr ago. I'm pretty sure most everyone trained on the job in those days, but i paid $5 for the course and bought a few books (med dictionary, workbook etc). This was an intensive course though with a great teacher -- 8r a day x 6 months and i probably studied 4-5 hr a night. I had a job before i got out of 'school' and i've worked continuous ever since, in many capacities, a number of states. I do think there are too many places nowadays however that take your money and don't prepare you well. But it's WHAT they teach, not the name of the school. We spent a good deal of time on word roots/prefixes/suffixes, interpreting sound, easily confusables, how to research, etc. Training my ear did not come easy for me, but i believe everywhere i've worked, i've been considered one of their best. Again, its not where you've been but what you learned when you got there!!
low level, low income, low education, low coping skills.
birds of a feather flock together FOR THE MOST PART. why don't rich people move to trailer parks? the mentality. why do low income people stay low income? no education. why no education? no forward thinking as to why some people can make money and others don't. sorry if you don't like it, but stats don't lie. do a google search. there are certain neighborhoods that have income levels, education levels, crime rates. these low income housing units, trailer park, section 8, apartments that do not require credit checks have higher crime rates, lower education levels and lower incomes. google will answer all your questions regarding stats. why do you think some neighborhoods are more valuable than others? where i live the same house could be in one neighborhood and be more valuable than a house sitting in another neighborhood that is zoned for trailer parks. why is that? go figure.
No worries.. thats the one who keeps telling us to clean our trailers and get an education.
I hear they the Education Department Needs 2M teachers by 2015
I think thats a great idea. English teacher... Hmmm.. What are the requirements?
not sure about you, but we have several wild animal care and education centers...
The best way to start is to volunteer.
We have like Messinger Woods and Hawk Creek around here, like animal sanctuaries, where they have owls, eagles, deer, all sort of animals they need to take care of. You can always visit one and ask questions. I would love that, too, only I can not get my boyfriend interested. I would love to even volunteer.
Sounds funny, but what about a zoo...same thing, you can volunteer at first, see if you like it, and I believe those positions offer decent pay...?
if people are anything like our higher education with a degree person, i'm staying in.
really and truly, i have a very intelligent and supportive network of friends and family and i am not a recluse. i just don't mingle well with people who don't think before they talk as in the higher education chick. that's downright scary when you think about it.
I'm sorry, but education level or type of dwelling has NOTHING to do with the caliber of a person
There are plenty of "educated" boneheads out there in the world. There are plenty of "uneducated" people who live in houses nicer than mine! Educated people live in trailers and work in bars, too.
The term "trailer trash" refers to people who don't care for their property. They'd rather be brawling and getting drunk than putting any effort into picking up the trash that's littered all over their yard and house.
I know all my neighbors. I can show you homes of "uneducated" people that are nicer than the homes of the "educated". We have several immigrants on our block that have no high school or college education. However, they are the nicest neighbors to have. They care for their property. They are kind and generous people.
The undesirables in the neighborhood have a lot of problems that have nothing to do with their education level or type of house.
quality as in ethics/morals/education/parenting/will to do one's best and set examples for others
qualities as to working hard to make your life better and not settling for second best so you can drink your six-pack and rent videos while your kids run wild. you know what i'm talking about. quality as to have no grasp of consequences of one's behavior.
Does anyone know of a place for online education or materials I can use at home for my second grader
My second grader is really struggling through the end of school. I want to work with her over the summer so she is prepared for third grade. Our school district will only provide summer tutoring if the child has actually flunked. I am trying to prevent her from flunking. She is a B-C student and I want to help her maintain or acheive better than that. Her older sister is a straight A student, but I know every child is different. I am not trying to make her a straight A student, I just want her to get as much out of her lessons as possible. Does anyone know of a virtual learning site that will provide me with the correct materials to teach her over the summer? We live in a small town in the country in Ohio and we have no tutoring available unless i driver her about 50 miles one way! Thanks for any help!
We don't care what kind of education you have or how many websites you know about, bottom line
is your lacking of personality, and your [ pointing the finger ] attitude that you have. You go back to transcribing all the YUK that we now get after VR skims off the cream and see how well you do sitting listening to that for an entire shift, and you may take off that crown on top of your BIG HEAD !! How did you find one big enough to fit?
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I'm in college myself ...
Do you have an undergraduate bulletin from the U? If not, GET ONE TODAY. Look at the degree programs. He must pick out a major and register and be assigned an Academic Advisor first.
Make sure he fills out his FASFA anyway and has it sent to the university. Just because you make $40K does not mean he should not qualify for grants or scholarships whatsoever. I don't know who told you that or if you just are assuming that, but it is not true.
A university has many, MANY avenues for financial aid. He will be assigned a financial aid counselor and you need to call up there right now, TODAY (if he is planning on attending this fall semester in about 5 weeks) and go talk to the immediately. Do you know the FASFA website? Have you filled it out? You MUST fill it out, it will be processed and sent to the university, then they will send him an award letter and you can go from there.
Now, student loans are not bad debt at all. It is an investment in your future. Just make sure you are borrowing responsibly an amount that can be paid back easily. As well, it will not hurt him one bit to pay his own student loans back and/or you pay just part of them. He should have to be payint and investing in his OWN future.
He probably needs to find a part-time job, period. Nothing wrong with that. It will teach him discipline and show you whether he is serious about an education or not. If he has registered already (and he should have if he is attending this fall ... if he hasn't and wants to go, REGISTER TODAY)...you know when his classes are and he can hit the pavement today on finding a part-time job.
You've have a bad experience as far as academic counseling at the junior college -- at least from your description, I would call that near idiocy. At the U, he will have to claim a major and it should have a sports program so that should not be a problem. Do NOT---NOT---NOT---NOT just "put him in a major". This is his education. It must be what HE wants.
There's not a lot you can do until you:
1) Fill out that FASFA and process it
2) Call the U, physically go in with your son and see a Financial Aid Advisor
3) Register, see your Academic Advisor and get your classes
If I can help you in anyway, let me know.
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