B & E - especially with AAMT supporting off-shores transcription.
Posted By: GaPeach on 2005-09-02
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Gulf Shores --- off subject a bit LOL
I hate to hijack this thread but I'm going to Gulf Shores this weekend hopefully to lay on the beach and relax :). I'm wondering what your weather is like right now. I live in north Georgia, and it has all of a sudden turned cool! Sorry to ask, but when I saw where you live, I just couldn't pass up the chance to ask. Thanks!!
What do American MTs expect from transcription association like the AAMT? SM
I posted this question over on the company board as there was some talk abou the AAMT changing its name and how they dropped "American" from their name because they basically have opened up memberships to the whole world and then something was said about American MTs needing an organization that represented us.
So my questions would be what kind of benefits or services do you expect from an MT organization or association? Would change any of the BOS rules or would you want a new style guide to be created? Would you want the association to function as a union, insuring job security and fair pay? Would you be willing to pay union dues or membership fee and if so what do you think is a reasonable fee? What about certification - should it be offered or is it unecessary?
I've felt for some time that we (MTs) weren't adequately represented by the AAMT and there was a need for an organization that could effectively stabilize the MT industry especially in recent years with outsourcing work overseas and taking jobs away from American MTs.
so just because the US has been supporting--sm
other countries *for years now* makes is alright? and you are supporting this because you pity the people who are impoverished? What about the impoverished in our OWN country. what are you thinking?!
35,5, supporting only one person
I am supporting 4 teenagers, have a nice house and 2 car payments and do it on not much more than that.
Tired of supporting generations.........
of people who refuse to take care of themselves. I see this in my own town. We keep building housing "projects" for those "less fortunate". PLEEEAASE!! What makes them less fortunate. I'm not talking about those who NEED real help, who lost their job, who found themselves in monetary hardship due to unforeseen circumstances. I'm talking about those who keep having babies at 14, 15, 16. Heck, by the time my daughter was in high school, she had already seen one of her classmates have 3 children. Who was paying for those children? These same girls brag about what they know about the system, the more kids they have, the more they get on their "check". These are the ones that have no intention of working, because we ALL take care of their children with our hard earned taxes. We keep building new homes, (my mother lives in a home that is very old and needs LOTS of work). No one coming out feeling sorry for her, saying oh let me fix up your place. But, of course, these are HUD homes, brand new apts, brand new "GATED" apartments. GIMMIE A BREAK!! Now, they can live in these beautiful new homes and pay only minimal rent instead of getting out and buying a home that is older, doesn't look so pretty, may not be in the best neighborhood. But they don't want these. Our government has them feeling "ENTITLED" to these benefits that the rest of our pay for. And, of course, they can vote people into office that only help their situation, and we pay MORE taxes to build, build, build, send their kids to Headstart (by the way, my daughter is a teacher in the school system; she's not too impressed with what they learned. They don't know letters, numbers, colors). What were they learning at headstart? This is just a babysitter for most. I use to take my son to school, had to go through area where Headstart but picked up. THese mothers waited until the bus was at the corner, their children weren't even dressed, the moms were TOO lazy to even walk them down to the corner to wait on the bus. Only a couple of mothers would actually have their children standing at the corner, waiting with them for the bus. TO me, this showed their kids they thought this to be important. For those mothers that stood in the doorway, their hair in curlers, just getting out of bed, the bus lady had to get out, stand there, yelling for them to come on and hurry up. THe mothers just took their time while we all sat in our cars waiting for the bus to move.
What does this say about those who want to really try and those that are just glad to have a FREE babysitter.
If I recall, you should be able to pull up all the supporting documents sm
to review, not just the summary page. I always back it up by doing the old pencil, paper, calculator method just to be sure.
Raising my child to be self supporting taxpayer.
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It's selling-out because you're supporting an outfit
for more and more offshoring of American work, that's why. And when the possibility of plugging the leak by passing a bill to forbid offshoring of Amercians' info. without their consent, or another one getting rid of MTSO perks for offshoring our jobs goes to Congress, who do you think will be spending YOUR money to lobby against the passage of those bills, thereby possibly keeping YOUR job safe? You guessed it - AHDI. These people are all snakes. Passing a test and getting some fake letters after your name might make you feel better than other MTs, but it doesn't MAKE you, or any other MT better. What makes us better is on-the-job experience, not the shady auspices of the AHDI scammers.
I get it. But in return for supporting the small business the poor folk get nothing in return.
I understand why you don't shop at Walmart. You support those who support you but it doesn't work that way for me. I can go to an independent shop and by a dishwasher, pay lots more for it and get nothing in return to supplement my support of their small business. Same for all the poor folk who are shopping in Walmart trying to stretch a paycheck. I am glad Walmart exists for those folks.
We have been supporting other countries for years and years now.
What is the big deal. Look at your clothes, cars, items in your house. You will see mostly China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan etc., etc. We have not supported our own people like we should have for years now!!!!
Agree, verbatim transcription equals poor quality transcription.
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Oh, someone benefits from AAMT - AAMT DOES!
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Know AIM transcription system, never heard of Hull transcription. Are you sure
you are not thinking about DHull who is a recruiter for MDI-FL? They use the AIM system.
AAMT BOS
Well hey, spelling a lot as one word is commonplace too; does that make it okay?? Do they really think MDs keep up with all the illogical changes they come up with? Do they realize that MDs actually take the time to edit stuff they don't recognize to be correct? What good is it if it actually causes MDs to stop and edit??
AAMT
It's just too bad that AAMT has not taken an assertive stand for the American MT and keeping confidential patient records in this country. For such a long time medical record administrators have fought the concerns of medical transcriptionists since the 60's. There was always a divisive agenda from medical record librarians (as they were called then) toward the transcriptionist. They didn't want to see the Transcriptionist come to the forefront of the medical records industry, nor did they like the income transcriptionists made(then) -WHAT? a transcriptionist make more money than a medical records librarian? I still see it now - you see AHIMA's hand down the back zipper of AAMT puppeting what direction they want AAMT to go - minimize the importance of the professional medical transcriptionist and rushing to automate the medical record with ASR and EMR. Ask youself this question - how many of you believe that many of the "QA" people at the nationals are discarded or displaced medical record technicians or the like? Many of the medical record administrators lost their jobs about 10 years ago during hefty layoffs when hospitals began a surge of outsourcing and many of these people had to seek jobs in the transcription industry for national companies as sales people, administrators, and QA people. I can't begin to tell you how many RHIT people haven't a clue about medical transcription. I've worked with so many who got a lot of things wrong legally but hey, because they were above the transcription department, they were right. Don't question them.
AAMT
Have to afford those trips to Hawaii somehow.
AAMT
I know. It is so strange. I was just on the AAMT forum. I know if I start making "waves" I'll be considered a troublemaker. It is really said what is happening in that organization when it could provide such a boost.
AAMT
That is how I have been feeling. A friend of mine says I need to run, but I'm afraid of how it would be handled. -
AAMT
Thanks so much. You are right. I will contact this gentleman.
well, according to the AAMT BOS...sm
"Always place periods inside quotation marks." <<< see, like I did! 
Ah, yes. The AAMT.
Medware offshores. They don't pay well, either. I see by your other post that you won't work for acusisindia, what's the difference? Offshoring is offshoring.
AAMT = Against American Medical Transcriptionists
AAMT
I don't think you read my message clearly. There are many options to AAMT, not just one. AAMT is pushing for licensure as it is. That will do just as much harm as anything else in the end.
AAMT
AAMT is nothing but a poor parody of a high school sorority. It touts itself as being a professional organization. It is neither professional nor organized and needs to go the way ot the dinosaur and die.
AAMT
What I blame AAMT for is for touting themselves as a "professional organization" when they are neither professional nor organized.
AAMT/BOS??
I hear the rules are always changing in the AAMT/BOS.
And you have to admit, it doesn't really matter what the AAMT/BOS says, it's what the doctor prefers, right or wrong.
According to AAMT BOS, you do put
an apostrophe to form the plural of single letters and symbols. The values will vary from patient to patient. 
AAMT
AAMT is totally useless; everyone knows that. They're a bunch of aging prima donnas. You would do better to invest your money in a good basic grammar book than anything AAMT has to offer.
Jim
Where is AAMT
They're too busy deciding who is white enough and straight enough to belong to give attention to relevant issues. I abandoned them in the 90s when I saw first-hand what their agenda was. It isn't to help the average Joe or Jane Transcriptionist, believe me.
AAMT
AAMT is a dinosaur.
AAMT BOS
Yes, and dangerous abbreviations list instructs cc should be replaced with mL as well. I agree a lot of it is silly, but there is some useful information. Some doctors appreciate it, other doctors want verbatim always and don't care for it.
AAMT
I will conveniently stay anonymous, but I completely agree with you. I cannot afford the membership dues. My former employer is sponsoring a discounted membership with AAMT for MTs who want to join. I think this board is invaluable and agree it probably does have a lot better information. I know of other MTs who used to be AAMT members who could no longer afford the membership and dropped it. Besides, I think you can visit their website and obtain info that way. I bet the book you purchased is a good resource as well.
AAMT
AAMT does not only support offshoring, I believe they are responsible for it. Apparently, you don't know that they offer their CMT test and credentials to MTs in India? Nothing very "American" about that.
Also, you will find that most AAMT officers are from MTSOs that offshore work. If you dig deeper, you will find that these MTSOs were pioneers in offshoring work. I belonged years ago, but then I decided they were just a bunch of egomaniacs out for their own glorification.
I can't see that they have done anything positive for the MT business. I think it's gone downhill since AAMT came into the picture.
Like she said, AAMT...
Yes, the AAMT website has a great instruction guide for setting up and maintaining a QA department. It is the QA Primer 2004. I used it to establish a QA department for one of the medium transcription companies and they love it.
Can one sit for the AAMT's CMT
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AAMT
If the AAMT gets their way and gets an apprenticeship program apprvoved, MTs are sunk. Students will come out of the top 3 schools ready to work, but will have to work for lower line rates as apprentices. So who do you think the MTSOs will hire?
The AAMT has applied to the Department of Labor to get this scheme going. We are sunk unless we oppose it and state that the AAMT does not represent the majority of MTs. The group that wants to represent us is sending us right down the tubes. We have to stop them before they go any further with this scheme.
Did the AAMT ever ask MTs
whether THEY wanted this apprenticeship program? The AAMT wants to pretend it represents MTs. If you want to represent someone, you take the time to do the groundwork to find out what the people in the industry want. You don't sit down and come up with a deal and send it to the Dept. of Labor, letting the Dept. of Labor think that this is what the majority of MTs want, and THEN try to sell it to those who make up the working body.
That is NOT the way to attract support. This is why the AAMT is accused of being elitist. The AAMT does not use the boards to poll working MTs. It tells MTs what they SHOULD want, SHOULD do, SHOULD think.
Ask first, then act. Don't try to sell us some scheme after it's all put together, and don't try to fob it off as something the majority wants. That is dishonest.
That turns the majority of MTs against the AAMT.
When we are making the same wages as the MTS who live in other countries, maybe the AAMT will wake up and feel a little bit of guilt about their part in taking us down.
Thank AAMT for this. nm
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AAMT now just AMT?
This is in reference to their now teaching overseas to outsource our work:
I myself do NOT feel comfortable having my information sent overseas, including my name, DOB, and often SSN listed in the demographics screen of each note. I have heard stories of prosecution (or lack there of) by identity theft from people in other countries. Maybe Americans should start boycotting or protesting the healthcare industries that outsource overseas!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: AAMT BOS, etc.
Thanks for your honest, non-rosy answer about switching from in-house to at-home. We have actually been gradually switching over to a more rigid adherenct to the BOS, but it's been a hard sell for lots of the older docs, who want it their way or no way at all. And some of us older MTs aren't too thrilled with lots of the idiotic, picky-picky stuff the BOS throws at us. So far we've reached a compromise, where we MOSTLY adhere to it, but other things we do the doctors' way to keep them happy. I would have a hard time with with verbatim, because one of our ways IS to do SLIGHT changes in grammar for some of the ESL docs. But they can be only very minor, and the rule of thumb is when in doubt, don't do it. For the most part I sort of like the ESL guys better, because at least they try harder to be understood than many of our English-speakers.
I found your answer very forthright and valuable, and will definitely add it to my "cons" list! :)
AAMT
Throwing good money after bad, and sending our work to India.
AAMT
What a waste. You can get all of that free off the internet. Those CEC's you are talking about are worthless and not transferrable.
AAMT
Is it still the rule with AAMT to spell out WHOLE numbers zero through nine, use numerals for 10 and above or did they change this with the 2nd ed.
Also what is the standard font and size used nationally.
Thanks - Sandra
According to AAMT BOS 2 sm
"With proper nounds, capitalized words, numbers, and abbreviations use a hyphen to join a prefix to a proper name, capitalized word, number or abbreviation, i.e.:
non-CMTs
non-Hodgkin-type lymphoma
AAMT
What is the AAMT guidelines for position of the discharge diagnosis. I have docs who dictate at the beginning of the script and some who dictate it at the end.
I don't think AAMT....
addresses this formatting issue in the BOS. I just type them like they are dictated, but would like to see standard formats for all reports. Unfortunately no one has ever asked me!
aamt
I have never used them. My Manager agrees with me. AAMT is using the acceptable English language in the BOS. Well I have been doing MT for 20 years. Never needed other MTs to tell me how to do my job.
AAMT
Right on Sharon!! I'm down here in Thousand Oaks, and was involved deeply with AAMT many years ago - could not believe their insanity on pushing offshoring of patient records without full disclosure to the patient, AND other professional industries such as IT stick together to provide American jobs FIRST. AAMT has not publicly addressed the issue of disclosure to the patient that their record is going offshore. Offshore is here to stay, we can't stop it, and I would not take offense to it if there were some decent common sense checks and balances in place to protect the American worker FIRST. What we see is sheer insanity, stupidity, and corporate greed. Not until we are in deep do-do with a gigantic job loss in all fields, will our government say, duh, what happened?
AAMt
I think this is bull! I have 4-year medical schooling and now have some experience, and still the AAMT dictates how we take the test. This is why our work is going overseas. Yes, you should have experience but not have to be neice of Einstien! This organization will put MTs out of business, or give away our jobs. They make it so hard and it shouldn't have to be.
AAMT
Hi Ana... These are all good programs. Good solid training and education is what you will definitely need to get started. Once you get your education though be aware that you don't need the AAMT... They have become more of a joke to most MTs than a source of helpfulness.
Good luck. I think it is a wonderful career.
AAMT
Like I said, it may not do any good, but I am willing to try, at least then I can say I did. I totally agree with you on the offshoring being the major problem, but there are also other problems with the organization as well. I would be happy to see MTs being required to have state licensure like nurses and a lot of techs need. They are asking for responses so I am gonna give em without hesitation. I have a couple of months left on my membership and I am dumping after that if I don't see real progress.
How often does AAMT put a new BOS out? Thanks. nm
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