Asian, Indian, British, Hispanic..sm
Posted By: mt on 2009-02-12
In Reply to: Iranian, Cuban,England,Faster than lightening Americans sm - sickofit
I am old and tired and just can't stand ANY ESLs anymore, and the sad thing is the good dictators are going offshore because the Indian MTs cannot even understand the ESLs. Unfortunately, most companies are filled to the brim with difficult ESLs and i guess if you don't do ESL, u won't have a job. That is why I am sticking like glue to where I work, NO ESLs.
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Asian OB-GYN is my hangup, not just Asian, but a combination of the 2 (nm)
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anyone else think British accents are sometimes difficult?
There are few doctors with British or Australian accents compared to Indian, Middle Eastern, Hispanic, East Asian etc....but perhaps because I don't hear them as often I am sometimes really thrown off by them.. not ESL! But I find myself relistening before I get some of the words. Also difficult are some of the other European dictators...do not get as many of those either. Used to get a guy - I looked him up on the hospital web site - it said he spoke about 6 different European languages - he had a very unusual accent.
Hispanic too
Either one gets on my nerves and makes me struggle.
Right as usual Hayseed! And what about British dialects - sm
such as a strong Cockney accent compared to upper-crust Londoners.... it's like a different language. Every country in the world has similarities in their respective languages as well. Has less to do with color than it does social class, location, education (or lack thereof), etc.
Hmm, is this little Hispanic girl racist?
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"little Hispanic girl" is from a what? LOL nm
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Agree...Hispanic is the hardest!
I've done everything from Indian to Asian and never had a problem with those...but Hispanic accents always throw me for a loop. For instance, I have one MD now that pronounces "violation" as vee-o-lit-on. Took me forever to figure out what she was saying not to mention her grammar was horrendous!
I just picked up a UK account. I need a spellcheck for british medical. Any suggestions?
tia
i am of hispanic decent and celebrated and have been part of many.
it is formal attire similar to a summer wedding, and the gifts are usually jewelery or money. and be ready to "merengue" the night away! lol
I moved out of a high crime, mainly Hispanic neighborhood, and now...
I was so thrilled, I almost got mugged one night going to the mailbox, then within 6 months my company changed everything on me and I am barely hanging on rent wise. I sure know what you are going through.
Poll - what do you think the hardest accent is? I vote Hispanic. nm
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Asian and Russian for me. nm
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Not all 'oriental' is Asian!........nm
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Yes, Asian dictators are toughest
Some of mine are decent, but the rest are terrible. Strangely, I don't have much problem with Indian dictators, thought I would.
If they just add an E, they can be the East Asian Association for MT. nm
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No one mentioned either oriental or Asian.
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Have you ever heard the Asian psychiatrist
on Law and Order dictate? He's pretty good. I'd do his reports. He's a dream!
It is NOT Oriental, no such nationality. It is of Asian descent.
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I meant South Asian, of course, not East.
People are Asian. Rugs and food are oriental.
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I wasn't aware Asian people were sensitive
about it. Where I live I guess we don't have the largest Asian population. Those I have met have been rather reserved and didn't discuss anything personal to someone they met in business or a casual meeting. So forgive me if I used the wrong term when I said Oriental, because I was just attempting to be vague since I didn't check on the origin of the dictator's name. As for those who suggested I leave a blank, any report with more than 3 blanks has to go to QA. So I take the time to look at his other reports for instances where he either said it better or the MT was better at that particular accent. I'm quite good at many accents, including Korean (let me acknowledge that Korean would be a particular Asian accent so we don't start another time-consuming discussion over that tiny point). But whatever particular Asian accent this person has, at least with the system we are using to record his voice, I have trouble with. But I get a few reports by him nearly every day, so I've started a list of the phrases he doesn't pronounce well. Whatever his first language is obviously didn't use many of our sounds, so I was just thinking it would probably take a speech therapist to train him. IMO, some of his training isn't appreciated fully if his patients can't understand him when he speaks, or MTs have to leave blanks in his reports. So with all the education he's had already, what would be a few weeks of speech therapy, is what I'm thinking.
chiefly British past and past participle of SPELL
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Indian?
What does him being indian have to do with anything?
Indian MT
I don't believe you for 1 second. Indian work is NOT SUPERIOR to what is done here. A few of them are doctors, but most are not. They get the medical terminology, but their American English is horrific. Very few of the Indians who do MT trained over here or in Europe. They completed medical school here in India, which is a very abbreviated compared to US or Europe training.
The Indians are enticing American companies to invest and train MTs over there, working at next to nothing, so that when they have captured a significant percentage of the market, they will jack up their rates and the hospitals and clinics here will have to pay because they have driven out all the US MTs by not paying us living wages or giving us decent paid time off, benefits, etc.
People like you are cutting your own throats in the long run.
I am an excellent MT, QA 100% for 15 years, never miss work unless there is a death in the family. My income has gone down steadily over the past 3 years because of the greed of MTSOs. I am leaving this job shortly. I look forward to the day when you bleed to death from the Indian MTSO who will put you out of business.
Indian pay
I am not privy to a lot of info about this, but I can tell you my experience. When I lost my contracted work to a couple of small hospitals that went with India, the administrator told me they went with India because they were doing away with lines. India took 6 of my last invoices and averaged the pay and gave the hospital 2/3rds off!! Mind you, I was only charging them 11.5 cents per line!! She then told me that the offshore company would pay their Indian transcriptionists $2.00 an hour.
Indian......
I am an Indian MT working from home and I read your post. Indian MTs are not bad, they are best. The only thing you need to do is get to a real good one rather than just these newbies who just want to make some quick money and do not have enough experience. Get in touch with some experienced one and you will them superior when compared to other MTs. I myself have been working for 8 years now and i know what it takes to be an MT to prdduce a good accuracy consistently.
Indian......
I am an Indian MT working from home and I read your post. Indian MTs are not bad, they are best. The only thing you need to do is get to a real good one rather than just these newbies who just want to make some quick money and do not have enough experience. Get in touch with some experienced one and you will find them superior when compared to other MTs. I myself have been working for 8 years now and i know what it takes to be an MT to produce a good accuracy consistently.
Indian MTs
From what I have heard, you are on the money and it is so ironic because as American MTs we are not allowed to make any mistakes at all. We have to have this impeccable quality of 98% and above to stay employed. We have to abide by these high standards painstakingly so patient care is not compromised by an inaccurate medical record. Is this a double standard (no pun intended)? Are they not lowering the bar when an MT is paid considerably less money and their profits are thus enhanced in the process?
This is a no brainer and we all know it is about the almighty dollar and not just about patient care.
Indian.
Indian English is not the same as American or British English. Somebody please tell that to the Indians!
Are you Indian?................nm
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You are Indian
You Are Indian
I'm hardly Indian...
...and hardly a troll...I'm pure born-and-bred Texan through and through.
As I said, take my advice or leave it. In the meantime, keep putting money into the pockets of all those money-grubbing MTSOs. I sure won't contribute to them...nor do I have to do so.
You SHOULD be able to tell by my writing style that I am certainly not Indian or foreign in any way, shape or form.
Indian workers
I was obvious they were Indian workers from Indian..Every one of them that I talked to had an Indian accent..I have nothing wrong with American workers with accents..but I called at least eight people to get my internet account straightened out and all had Indian accents..Come on now, I cannot believe eight people are of Indian descent all working at the billing department of my internet account..If you are American of first descent and working IN America, more power to you..if the account is sent overseas, I have a major problem with that..and if you dont have a problem with that, contact me in a few years when our jobs are overseas.
I never said I hire Indian MTs
...but I can't wait to see you bleed to death by your own hand, either.
Thanks for driving us away from American MTs though.
I fought against offshore heavily. What did you do?
Bitter, bitter, incompetent MTs.
Is that still Indian owned by Jay?
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Oriental and Indian
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Indian and Pakistani, although (sm)
When I first started this account, there was one doctor who was so awful I was sure I'd never understand him. His dictations are usually very short, which you think would have helped. However, his speech is so bad, I could only make out a few words. After begging my sup for help and getting samples, I now love him! Now that I know what he is saying (even though he doesn't always make sense), I can breeze through them. And.....sometimes he even thanks us at the end of a shift. This is what he said today after the last report....."
Thanks for the help. Happy Holidays . I’ll be here back again Monday. Thanks for the help. God bless you". I wish he knew how much that is appreciated.
Indian Company
Having been a part of an office of six transcriptionists who lost their job to a local service who has "allegedly" sent work to India, I would rather have been let go due to voice recognition. That would not have hurt so bad. The work that was returned from the service had mistakes that I would think were typical of those from inexperienced typists!
CMT (Indian MTs have discount)
Sadly, I am slowly moving from lower middle class to poverty level since pay cuts as a full-time MT.
After numerous requests for some kind of help toward paying for the certification, I am told by AHDI (AAMT) discounts are not even being considered in the near future.
With the future so bleak for the future of MT, I am not sure why I should put out all that money. I am bringing home less than $300/week after taxes and health care...? How do I justify the $287 or so cost, when I have my utilities threatened to be shut off every other month for simply just not having the money...
For me, I do not have a partner who supports me. Am I the only one in this boat?
Only know its an Indian company.
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The MT that defends Indian MTs
that steal our jobs is jumping up and down telling someone else not to type for free. Ironic.
Indian people
I don't want to generalize, but most of the Indian people I have worked with over the years have been really nice and helpful. My internists are a husband and wife team from India. He wears a turban and everything. If they have contempt for me and my western ways, I sure don't know it.
I think the reason our records may be unsafe going to India is not because the Indians are not to be trusted, but because our companies pay them slave wages. Legally, I have never understood why minimum wage laws do not extend to overseas contractors, but they do not.
Sadly, most transcriptionists here in the U.S. have seen their salaries decrease. I'm an excellent transcriptionist/editor and very conscientious, but I'll admit. I don't try quite as hard as I used to. For example, I used to routinely make phone calls to double check dictation, but I no longer do that. I can't afford it.
Consider that the average Transcriptionist in India makes a fraction of what we do and how demoralized it is when that transcriptionist is professionally trained, such as doctors who routinely work as transcriptionists in India. There is the potential for huge bitterness and frustration. They don't have the choices we do. They're stuck. I'm not excusing immoral and illegal behavior, but I can understand someone who is paid very little who has no choices acting desperately.
To me that is why offshore workers should be paid more. People who are paid so little work less well. I think that most pay rates for U.S. transcriptionists are just barely enough to keep the workforce conscientious.
Cindy
East Indian . . and they are
Sometimes, when they let an Indian speak
on TV, you might have noticed that Indians pronounce 'that' as 'dat'.
I know NOTHING about Ebonics, have never heard it.
Is saying 'I aks' instead of 'I ask' also Ebonics?
Kinda? What's that? Indian?...nm
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of course they speak english, with an accent but they speak British-English quite well.
And I can't speak Indian so I guess they have an edge don't they?
Why are you on THIS board..i thought there was one for Indian MTs?
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at least they aren't Indian telemarketers. nm
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Wonder what they charge the Indian MTs to take the test
Considering the high cost of taking the test, which probably works out to like a year's salary to an Indian family, I wonder if Indian MTs are charged less than Americans to take the exam, even proportionately?
It is hard to imagine how any American MT could justify membership in this organization. Not only are they not helping us, they are undermining us further.
Zydoc is an Indian company. nm
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They are an Indian company and they doc you for your errors.
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