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As a former 2nd grade teacher... NO way. Why? (see rant inside! Ha ha!)

Posted By: MI in Novi on 2005-12-06
In Reply to: But isn't that a little inappropriate? - nm

As a former schoolteacher.... We would not have done "snowman poop" in class.  No way, no how.  I think it's a little on the tacky side but still relatively harmless, so that isn't why I wouldn't do it. 


Too many parents with no life and too much time on their hands would complain.  Teachers have to walk on eggshells to avoid giving parents any tiny thing to freak out about.  The kids? They're great.  Parents?  Man, do we need some chlorine in the gene pool.  If they aren't expecting teachers to do free tutoring after school (Why would you expect that? Do we give away free MT for doctors? No! ) or to hold conferences after 6:00 PM so they don't have to leave early from work (Hello, teachers have families, too! They're YOUR kids, YOU take off work early rather than expecting a teacher to stay past 5:00, okay?) they're "forgetting" to send lunch money for weeks at a time or refusing to take any responsibility for their child's behavior and blaming it on a million different reasons other than that they just don't take the time to work on the problem.   


Two degrees in education and a gift for teaching, but never again.  I'm an MT for the rest of my working years.  




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Hi TIA, my DH is a former 7th grade teacher and now....
is a high school principal.  Don't people like that ignorant poster above really burn you up?  As the wife of a teacher, I can vouch for the long hours and dedication that teachers put in.  My DH can talk you through a typical week that will prove that most teachers put in 12 months worth of full-time hours and MORE in the 9.5 months that they work.  That doesn't even count the summer hours preparing for the next school year.  I have sat home on my anniversary because my husband is off chaperoning a trip so the kids can attend a band competition a thousand miles away.  We have spent endless dollars of our own supplementing these trips, buying things for needy students, and making "sports supervision duty" a family night out so we can spend a little time with hubby and Dad.  Don't even get me started on the vandalism that we've incurred over the last 15 years.  Shall I start with the car that some little gang banger started by pouring a gallon of gas into our car and setting it on fire, because he was suspended?  Or how about the rocks put into our gas tank of our car?  Teachers ought to get hazard pay!  Wasn't an asst. principal just gunned down last week?  Teachers don't become teaches for the money, believe me.  Where else can you finish a bachelor's degree and an 18 month credentialing program for a whopping 25,000 dollars a year (in some areas, more in others).  A car mechanic makes twice as much as that!!!  So, I pretty much dismiss those people who think teachers sit on their butts all day and skate out the door at 2:30.  Their kids are probably the worst of them all.
DD is a 1st grade teacher, and is ready to throw in the towel
already - not because of the kids, but because of the interferring parents (mothers) who cannot bear to let "little Suzie" out of the nest, cuz, you know, she is my baby, so I want to be with her as much as I can.  She thinks these mothers cause more harm psychologically for the kids that anyone realizes.  They lose coping skills, other kids make fun of them for being a big baby, and they lose all identity.  Can't these mothers get a life away from the kid's school?   She has 3 or 4 that think they know everything and are constantly interrupting her to "correct" her way of teaching.  She is not a new teacher, has been teaching for over 10 years now and is rated one of the top teachers in this area. 
Hey, that's how I learned typing in 9th grade! And the teacher was a witch. nm
:)
Just a little rant

One ARNP on my account is absolutely the most aggravating person!  Obviously she rants all the time because we've gotten memos saying to be extra careful with all her work because she is the "squeaky wheel". You have all these particular things to do to hers for 8 lines, 9 lines, etc. etc., reports taking about 10-15 minutes to be sure everything is done right.. for 8 lines, 9 lines..and so on. .Very frustrating. But then, half of the time, she doesn't even give the name of the patient. So we are to be "extra careful", but she can't even remember to dictate the patient's name!  Very frustrating!  Nobody's perfect. We all get in a hurry, but only THEY can make the mistakes!  Thanks for letting me let off steam..


Rant -well said - sm
I have felt as you do for sometime now, but you said it well for all of us who feel this way. The caring and dedicated physicians in this world are few and far between. I firmly believe what goes around comes around, and I only hope to be there when it does.
rant

APPLAUSE!!  APPLAUSE!!!


You are just so right on!!!!  They give us little thought or consideration, but expect us to cover them and "make them look good" for pennies!!!


 


A RANT!
Does anyone know of a company that REALLY handles the problem of cherry picking??  I makes me so mad.  The people who skip hard jobs get paid the same for doing easy work, and the ones who don't cherry pick have to work harder!!  Most companies say they have a policy, but in my experience the supervisors don't really enforce it.  AARRGGHH!!
Just sent in my little rant! nm
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a reply and a rant!

I suggest if you want to stay in this occupation, just keep looking and be persistent, and concentrate on getting experience in acute care.  Personally I don't think the work is drying up, I think the gist of the problem is there is more than enough work to go around, and not enough experienced people to do it.   The "solution" of voice recognition has not taken all our jobs like they said it would. Offshore transcription has not taken all of our jobs. I don't believe EMR is going to be totally successful either.


Even if they find a good transcriptionist, some of the powers that be are unwilling to pay a decent wage even to well-rounded, seasoned transcriptionists.  I have seen lately on this board several examples of people that subject themselves to nearly unbearable work conditions, extremely long hours, working on little sleep, etc.   I certainly understand keeping up with one's standard of living, but is it really worth it?   We will continue to be treated like doormats as long as we're willing to let others do so.


MT is a profession in trouble. The wages have been getting lower and the workload keeps getting higher, and it's no easier now than it was before.  What young person wants to get into a job like that?  I made the decision to work my way out.  I'm bloody tired of the shrinking wages and the lack of respect from suits and the like who have no freaking idea what this job takes. 


Sorry for the long diatribe but I had to vent my 0.02.


 


 


go ahead rant!
One of my dictators smacks gum in my ear constantly and it drives me crazy because it is rude!!
I have been wanting to rant too
When they start talking before the system is recording. Is it REALLY so difficult to turn it on BEFORE you talk?
Quick ER rant
I swear, it seems like the network TV seasons get shorter and shorter. There will be one new episode, a month of reruns/specials, another new epi or 2, more reruns, and so on until the season ends in the beginning of May. And if you miss an epi, forget about seeing it during summer reruns. Seems like they stuck a new show in the time slot.

And that's why I love my cable, especially FX. If you miss a show, they'll be replaying it 500 more times during the week and sometimes even repeat the whole season of episodes.
Pundit's rant

Ah, my favorite -- a long proselytization that sounds vague but is in fact meaningless. 


 


oh man I could go on a rant right here with y'all but DH just got sm
home from work so I am afraid I would get caught!
Rant away, Girl!

It's GOOD you got all of that off of your chest!!


A Major Rant

A rant letter to a couple of doctors:


What has happened to the medical profession in this country?  Why is it that doctors forget their Hippocratic Oath?  Why is it they forget the purpose of their career choice?  I've transcribed this week on numerous elderly patients who have been with their doctors for five, ten or even fifteen years, but they have to seek care elsewhere because so many doctors are refusing to accept Medicare.  How would you feel were if it were your own mother or father being refused care with their established physician just because they became classified as "elderly" and qualified for Medicare?  If it weren't for your "connections," your parents would face the same dilemma that other elderly people face.


Why is it that when a patient comes into your office complaining of feeling fatigued and achy that you automatically assume they're depressed and pop out a prescription for them to pop a pill?  Why not LISTEN to what the patient is saying and realize that while some MAY be depressed, others have a legitimate medical problem going on?  Why not do some labs on them to check for anemia, hypothyroidism, etc.?  Oh, I get it -- let them wait two hours to see you after their appointment time and then spend two minutes with them... after all, time is money.  By the way, I guess that kid who came several times a couple of weeks ago complaining of abdominal pain wasn't just trying to get out of school since I saw his obituary in the paper this week.  Even when his mom and dad brought him in a second and third time, you brushed them off.  I hope seeing his obituary hurts your heart at least half as much as it hurt mine.  I can't imagine the pain those parents are enduring right now, but I doubt you've stopped earning money long enough to let it bother you.  And, no, I won't cover your butt if I get a subpoena when his parents sue you for medical negligence.


Why is it that you cringe when I tell you I need to raise my rates when I've not had a rate increase in three years or longer when in the mean time you've raised your rates at least three times a year every year?  Oh - ok - your expenses have gone up?  Do you think they've discounted my electric bill, gasoline, supplies and everything else?


Remember that last check before Christmas that I asked about when you were late paying me?  You know, the one where you said you didn't have the money to pay me until after the 1st of January - although my contract with you explicitly explains payment arrangements?  That was hard to swallow when your wife was standing there while I was waiting to talk to you and making out a check for $8200 to have your home decorated for Christmas?  Yes, it ticked me off that you had the money for that in your budget but not the money to pay me my measly little $702.  It also ticked me off when you took your three-week vacation to France and left me waiting for payment.


I do understand - its all about the money.  Of course, that is why I work.  But, if I ever get to the point that I'm so cold-hearted or money-oriented that I cannot try and give the best of my abilities in my transcription for every patient I type on, I have common sense enough to know its time to get out of my profession.  Yes, to you I'm just a "typist", but how many times have you picked up the phone and called me asking, "Do you remember the names of the tests that I need to order for Lyme disease?" Or, what about when you can't dictate a proper letter and you say, "This is what I want to say - can you fix it for me?"  What about those times when I've flagged a lab result and said, "This patient would be dead with a potassium of 988."  Regardless, I remain just a "typist" in your mind.


In spite of all your faults, I do my best for you.  I give you accurate work every day of every week because I know one typo (on the transcription work you don't review) with a drug dosage could mean the difference between life and death of your patients.  But in the end, does it really matter to you? 


 


EMR rant - lengthy

Hey, everyone.  We have all been so worried about VR and India taking our jobs that I think we may have let something slip by that is so very much more dangerous. 


My uncle had to have a procedure at the local VA last week, which was an education in and of itself, but what was perhaps most interesting was that I was able to watch his doctor work with the VistA EMR system.  For those of you who are not aware, VistA is the EMR system the VA uses.  It was created by them for use throughout the VA system, and basically it is a click and choose transcription system, minus the transcriptionist.  It uses templates and normals, and if the doctor needs to add more specific information, they simply type it in.  As I sat there with my uncle and watched his doctor type a few words, click some boxes, ask some questions, and do a completed preop report in the time it would have taken him to dictate the darned thing, I was astonished.  It is a very slick system, very impressive to see up close and personal.  From the perspective of patient care, it is wonderful.  The doctor pulls up the report with a few clicks, the patient signs off on it with a little electronic signature pad, and a nurse approves the whole thing with a code.  Very slick. 


So why should this scare us?  Here is the kicker.  The VA/Government/Medicare system is giving this program away.  That is right, GIVING it away to any doctor who wants it.  The problem is that it is extremely difficult to install and set up for proper use, and hard to learn to use initially.  It is also hideously expensive, both for the equipment used to run it on and the installation, though for a large practice probably no more cost prohibitive than paying a team of transcriptionists (2-3) for a year.  Okay, now add to this equation that Medicare is encouraging doctors to learn and use this system, and the date 2014 has been thrown out there as a target.  Skeptics say that 2014 is not reasonable but I am not convinced.  Here is why.  I think we can all admit that the transcription workplace is most definitely not what it once was.  Part of the reason is that it is getting harder and harder to find decent, qualified transcriptionists.  I know there are many, many hard-working transcriptionists out there who know what they are doing and take pride in their work.  I also know that there are many folks out there who like to call themselves transcriptionists, people who think the job is nothing more than typing and see no need to further their educations and stay on top of things once they have obtained a job.  This is not a problem that is confined to our profession; many other areas of employment are suffering the same malady.  However, most other areas are able to weed out the bad seeds, if you will, before their business has been harmed and find the hard-working people they need after searching at length, but medical transcription is not one of these areas.  Because of the nature of the beast, the seriousness and responsibility of the job, if a Transcriptionist messes up people have the potential to die.  With wages decreasing over time and companies becoming more desperate to hire anyone who can type, experienced transcriptionists are moving away from the job, not being able to support themselves on the lousy wages companies are paying.  The dwindling experienced work force is being replaced by a new generation of transcriptionists whose only experience with doctors' offices is when they visit their own primary care physician.  They are educated online, and while there are some schools out there truly committed to producing qualified workers, most are fly-by-night operations.  This is why, in part, doctors are trying to find other avenues of getting the reports they need.  Two of the VR perks that are pushed by companies are cost reduction and accuracy.  The companies that are promoting VR are using our inaccuracies and poor performance to tout their new baby, and they are succeeding.  Because they still pay us a minimal pittance to edit the VR after it is dictated, the doctors never see the product beforehand and therefore are under the impression that we are, in fact, inept, and that VR is a much better system than using humans. 


Now, imagine this if you will.  Transcriptionists are already on the hot seat and so, when the government starts promoting its EMR VistA system, it appeals to doctors.  Not only does it eliminate the need for transcriptionists, it costs about the same overall as they are already paying in wages/fees.  It gives the doctor complete control over the reports they produce, and they have immediate gratification because in the time it takes them to dictate the report, it is finished and in front of them.  The impression one gets from reading all the articles and forum posts pertaining to transcription these days is that doctors are becoming frustrated with the services they are being provided, and are ripe for being swayed into something else that is more productive.  This is the perfect time for doctors to begin transitioning to EMR, and the proliferation of companies out there who have developed EMR systems is testimony to that fact. 


Do doctors look at the EMR as a potential end to the careers of tens of thousands of workers in the United States?  No, probably not.  They only look at how this is going to affect them, their practice and their patients.  Congress is supporting and pushing this initiative, as are certain presidential candidates.  The concept of losing this many workers to EMR is apparently not something they are concerned about.  Implementing this sort of system will make them look good, and the importance of image to politicians is a given. 


While there can be no doubt that outsourcing has hurt medical transcription, as has VR, I strongly believe that our biggest threat is coming from our own government.  I think the EMR system is, within the next 5-10 years, going to put 80% of transcriptionists out of business.  There will be holdouts, and I am sure not all types of reports will be producible from this system, but if a doctor is given a choice between paying for a transcriptionist to possibly do a report correctly and perhaps get that report back within 24 hours if all goes as it should, and using that same time they would be dictating to produce the report themselves, with very little actual work on their parts, which will they choose? 

I do not know if there are any answers to this problem.  I do not know if there is anything we can do to save our jobs.  There are so many problems in the transcription system that one would be hard-pressed to know where to even begin a revamping.  There are nay-sayers who think the EMR system will never get off the ground, and they may be right.  I hope they are.  However, unless something drastic happens, such as complete and total destruction of the computer-based infrastructure of the country, I fear that the EMR system will be the end of the profession we all love.  It is a gamble that was initiated many years ago by our own government, and it looks as though the pay-off will be exceptional for them but most definitely not for us. 
I don't blame you for your rant, but here's how I feel about it. SM

Consider the source, laugh, and enjoy your home and your family. You don't have to defend yourself to anybody.


I GIVE UP!!! (A RANT/VENT)
I am sooooooo mad I could spit. I have sooooo had it when clients call, asking what I charge.  I am upfront and honest and tell them 12 cents for a 65-character line - 24 hour service - friendly service - everything proofed to a T.  They keep wittling me down, and I just refuse to work for Indian wages, living in a United States economy!  So, I HAVE TO DECIDED to do what the offshore groups do who are scarfing up all the business.  I'm going to start charging 10 cents a line, gross line, with full lines containing, give or take 50 characters, but all I'm telling them is 10 cents a line.  I guess there's more than one way to skin a cat!!  
let him rant for a while; he'll realize
nm
Nice rant. Here's one from the MT side!
I'm sort of a newbie compared to some here I bet, 3 years acute care. I look up things almost constantly, my books have had their covers blown off, and Google all the time. Mistakes and/or blanks? Sure, I'm human. I have trouble when the dictators barely speak English, dictate ridiculously fast, ignore their own format, etc. I don't understand why they think it's acceptable. Considering the high productivity and near perfect accuracy required, knowing or finding terminology in every specialty, every work type for more than four hospitals, I am surprised at this job's relatively low pay and apparent low opinion of the position. Just another clerical job to offshore asap? I sometimes I have to fight the attitude, "Well if they don't care, I DON'T CARE, garbage in, garbage out!!"

I have even watched movies of the surgeries on my own time to understand all the details. Sorry you have to clean up after a few lousy MTs but don't put us all in the same basket :)
My turn to rant - sort of

While it is true that change is the only constant, change should not be accepted uncritically.  *New and improved* is often neither.  While *if it ain't broke, don't fix it* can be taken to extremes such that it inhibits any kind of innovation, change merely for the sake of change doesn't result in improvement either.


Students anywhere, not just those who are financially poor, are often eager to learn when they start a new course of study.  Perhaps the difference you see between third world countries and the US is that transcription pays relatively well in third world countries when you consider their economies (not ours).  It's not a palace, but it's not a shack in the country either.  They believe they are on their way up and may eventually push for higher wages as they want to continue to better themselves and their families.  It's an immigrant's mindset without actually having to go anywhere.  In the US, on the other hand, middle class, and even financial poor, students are in for a shock when they find that they may only be making $20,000 to $25,000 a year and can't afford the average 1 bedroom apartment in their area, much less a house.  If they know any *old* transcriptionists, they may find that wages have been, and are continuing, to fall.  For them, this is not a step up nor will it allow them to do better than their parents, and the bloom comes off the rose pretty quickly.


How much feedback you get depends largely on where you work, not how many years you have in.  It's a function of how much your employer values quality.  How feedback is accepted also has a lot to do with how it is given.  Constructive mentoring that is actually helpful and collaborative is vastly different from the adversarial merely playing *gotcha*, and the response to each will be similarly vastly different.


As for the Book of Style, some clients want it and some don't.  Long-time transcriptionists aren't the only ones who say *but we've always done it this way.*  Long-time dictators have been known to get in a rut, too.


Good long-term transcriptionists have already learned to be adaptable.  Is anybody still transcribing on a non-correcting Selectric and using Dictaphone belts?  Is anybody still using WordStar?  We are already teachable.  Medical care in all sorts of specialties available today little resembles what was originally learned 10, 20 or 30 years ago.  We know how to use resources whether it's books, books on disc or the Internet and are grateful for the increased resources.  Gone are the days of only having a Webster's, a Dorland's and a PDR.  We must continue these good habits.  School is never out!


What needs to happen is for this current exacerbation of the newbie vs oldie fued to die down.  Both bring strengths to the table, as well as weaknesses, and both could learn from the other.  It was easier when we worked in the same place, but if we want to strengthen transcription as a career, we have to do it together.  Fragmenting ourselves into newbies, oldies, mommy trackers, career people, us, them, simply allows employers to play to our fears and play us off against each other.  Transcription as a career cannot survive this way.    


 


** RANT!! ** I hate QA people!

  They whine about everything they're sent.   I think we should all boycott QA for a week, send them nothing, and put them out of a job.


 


When I grade I look for...
...correct terminology and spelling, and nothing else. I once scored a report with 17 spelling errors. I told the applicant that I failed her on those. She replied "I don't have time to watch for that c--p!"

Does anyone with that kind of work ethic attitude think they're going to get hired? Who'd want to work with them? Any of you account managers or QA peeps out there want them on YOUR team? Didn't think so.

Anyway, I know where the spots are that the inexperienced or too cocky people will screw up, and that's pretty much all I look at. I leave it to QA to teach/correct areas that need to be changed, if need be. I just want people who know the terminology and can use it correctly.

Recently I took a test where I was dinged for NOT using the JCAHO dangerous abbreviations. However, how is one to know what to do when there are no instructions whether to use intelligent transcription or transcribe verbetim? That's where the people who are doing the scoring need to actually USE their gray matter rather than assume that people who are testing have consulted their psychic the night before to know what that particular QA peep is going to get their panties in a bunch over.

I'll get down off my soapbox now. Lol....
My son has been on an IEP since 1st grade sm
he is now in the 5th. The IEP helped a lot. He has accomodations when taking tests i.e. tests are read aloud to him, when he has math a tutor sits right beside him and he has speech 3 days a week for 30 minutes.
My son is currently in 5th grade. sm
I have to say his elementary school has been great and it is a public school. In fact, his kindergarten teacher was the best anyone could ask for. She really got him interested in school and loving it. In fact, I was the only one crying his first day of school. He was in heaven.

I would suggest going and sitting in on the classes and spending time in the school to get familar with the staff. My son's school has a wonderful staff all the way down to the school janitors who are husband and wife and treat the kids great.

Although there are a couple of teachers that I personally did not care for, we were given the opportunity to request teachers and they were honored if at all possible. I was able to avoid the couple of teachers that I did not care for. They may have been great, but I just felt that their style and personality didn't match my son. This really makes a difference; a child needs someone he is not intimated by to learn from. If they are afraid to ask questions, the teacher will never know if they need help.

This is my son's last year in elementary school. I have to say I do have reservations about our middle school and high school. After we built our home, they redistricted our community into one of the worst middle schools and high schools in our county. We have been considering private school, but the schools close to us are so expensive. We could put him through college cheaper than middle school and high school.

Sorry so long, but I know all information helps especially when our children are concerned.
Nice rant, but nobody tells me what to charge. nm
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Yes, you can. Rant, stomp feet, jump up&down,
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Low grade olive oil is the best.
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Fourth grade
Sounds like she is in 4th grade (age 9)? Most people agree that that is a tough year. I remember it was for me and my twin sister. I was not comfortable with competitive sports, but I think it would have given me confidence (and an outlet for all the negative energy of anxiety) if I had taken martial arts after school, or gymnastics or something like that to give me confidence and strength.
Furman grade
NM
sorry, but this isn't grade school
When you get out of grade school and become an MT, try following the MT Book of Style, which contains the guidelines for this profession - whether you like it or not.
What about Gen-Y? Try being a teacher.
Excellent article below;does not bode well for our future.

Also article about overweight, under-educated military recruits: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/20/struggling_for_recruits_army_relaxes_its_rules?mode=PF


For once, blame the student

By Patrick WelshWed Mar 8, 7:08 AM ET

Failure in the classroom is often tied to lack of funding, poor teachers or other ills. Here's a thought: Maybe it's the failed work ethic of todays kids. That's what I'm seeing in my school. Until reformers see this reality, little will change.


Last month, as I averaged the second-quarter grades for my senior English classes at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., the same familiar pattern leapt out at me.


Kids who had emigrated from foreign countries - such as Shewit Giovanni from Ethiopia, Farah Ali from Guyana and Edgar Awumey from Ghana - often aced every test, while many of their U.S.-born classmates from upper-class homes with highly educated parents had a string of C's and D's.


As one would expect, the middle-class American kids usually had higher SAT verbal scores than did their immigrant classmates, many of whom had only been speaking English for a few years.


What many of the American kids I taught did not have was the motivation, self-discipline or work ethic of the foreign-born kids.


Politicians and education bureaucrats can talk all they want about reform, but until the work ethic of U.S. students changes, until they are willing to put in the time and effort to master their subjects, little will change.


A study released in December by University of Pennsylvania researchers Angela Duckworth and Martin Seligman suggests that the reason so many U.S. students are "falling short of their intellectual potential" is not "inadequate teachers, boring textbooks and large class sizes" and the rest of the usual litany cited by the so-called reformers - but "their failure to exercise self-discipline."


The sad fact is that in the USA, hard work on the part of students is no longer seen as a key factor in academic success. The groundbreaking work of Harold Stevenson and a multinational team at the University of Michigan comparing attitudes of Asian and American students sounded the alarm more than a decade ago.


Asian vs. U.S. students


When asked to identify the most important factors in their performance in math, the percentage of Japanese and Taiwanese students who answered "studying hard" was twice that of American students.


American students named native intelligence, and some said the home environment. But a clear majority of U.S. students put the responsibility on their teachers. A good teacher, they said, was the determining factor in how well they did in math.


"Kids have convinced parents that it is the teacher or the system that is the problem, not their own lack of effort," says Dave Roscher, a chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams in this Washington suburb. "In my day, parents didn't listen when kids complained about teachers. We are supposed to miraculously make kids learn even though they are not working."


As my colleague Ed Cannon puts it: "Today, the teacher is supposed to be responsible for motivating the kid. If they don't learn it is supposed to be our problem, not theirs."


And, of course, busy parents guilt-ridden over the little time they spend with their kids are big subscribers to this theory.


Maybe every generation of kids has wanted to take it easy, but until the past few decades students were not allowed to get away with it. "Nowadays, it's the kids who have the power. When they don't do the work and get lower grades, they scream and yell. Parents side with the kids who pressure teachers to lower standards," says Joel Kaplan, another chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams.


Every year, I have had parents come in to argue about the grades I have given in my AP English classes. To me, my grades are far too generous; to middle-class parents, they are often an affront to their sense of entitlement. If their kids do a modicum of work, many parents expect them to get at least a B. When I have given C's or D's to bright middle-class kids who have done poor or mediocre work, some parents have accused me of destroying their children's futures.


It is not only parents, however, who are siding with students in their attempts to get out of hard work.


Blame schools, too

"Schools play into it," says psychiatrist Lawrence Brain, who counsels affluent teenagers throughout the Washington metropolitan area. "I've been amazed to see how easy it is for kids in public schools to manipulate guidance counselors to get them out of classes they don't like. They have been sent a message that they don't have to struggle to achieve if things are not perfect."

Neither the high-stakes state exams, such as Virginia's Standards of Learning, nor the requirements of the No Child Left Behind Act have succeeded in changing that message; both have turned into minimum-competency requirements aimed at the lowest in our school.

Colleges keep complaining that students are coming to them unprepared. Instead of raising admissions standards, however, they keep accepting mediocre students lest cuts have to be made in faculty and administration.

As a teacher, I don't object to the heightened standards required of educators in the No Child Left Behind law. Who among us would say we couldn't do a little better? Nonetheless, teachers have no control over student motivation and ambition, which have to come from the home - and from within each student.

Perhaps the best lesson I can pass along to my upper- and middle-class students is to merely point them in the direction of their foreign-born classmates, who can remind us all that education in America is still more a privilege than a right.

Patrick Welsh is an English teacher at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., and a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors.


Another former teacher
I just wanted to let you know you are not the only one who is a former teacher. I have a special ed degree and have taught in several different places, my favorite being with profoundly handicapped adults as a supervisor. However, where I am currently living I have had such a hard time getting back into that field. They only want to hire me for a job that I am totally overqualified for.

I was fortunate enough to find someone who was willing to train me in medical transcription on the job. With all my previous medical experience with education and wiht my on the job experience, I am now a single mom of three who LOVES medical transcription.

Sometimes I feel that I am wasting my degree, but then I hear something that I learned in college or through my previous jobs and know this is what I was meant to ....at least for now.

I don't know if this helps, but I just wanted to let you know you are not alone.
uhhhh, well I um apologize. I uh didn't mean to um take away from you uh rant. And uh yeah, 100

a little um, ya know, excessive.  But ya know, some of us, uh aren't quick thinkers like um, ya know, you.    Just havin' a little fun.


I worked with an older lady who got sick of hearing all the ums, sniffles, coughs, crunching from a certain dictator. She was one to tell it like it is no matter who you thought you were, co-worker, supervisor, doctor, administrator.  She had been at the hospital for nearly 30 years and was nearing retirement.  I loved her!  So she typed a report of his verbatim and I mean VERBATIM.  With every grunt, snort, and nonsensical word he made.  She, then of course transcribed it correctly.  She sent in the verbatim report just to show him and his staff what he sounded like.  Long story short, he didn't have a sense of humor at all and he couldn't take a very large boulder of a hint.  He called our supervisor ranted to her about this transcription and said that our department had better not be disprespectful to him like that again.  He never changed his dictating style either.


Anyway, there's my story.  I always have one. 


grade versus stage
grades are regular numbers, 1, 2, 3, etc. Stages are I, II, III. It's easy to remember this way - The Romans are on the Stage.
I do think kindergarten and 1st grade might get a kick out of it.
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Depends on which grade you will be teaching, but
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1984. I was in 4th grade. I'm 32 and not ashamed to say!!
Good for you! Every vote counts!
grade typing back in the 60s...lol...sm
so today, that is kind of hard to change especially when you have everything saved (macros) the way we USED to type that....it's just THIS week, I'm trying to do only 1 space after a period and I'm older than dirt!!  And I find that particular aspect of 1 space after a period very time consuming.........to make sure you didn't hit that space bar twice. 
Word Help--Firmin grade 3??
Patient with kidney cancer.  Sounds like "Firmin" grade 3???
Have you called the teacher? sm
Over the years I've had to e-mail and talk on the phone to my child's teachers. If you don't have the teacher's number or e-mail, you could probably call your child's school and get the information. If the teacher is worth his/her salt, they would probably be happy to help you out.
from an MT into a English Teacher

Am thinking of getting some education units (degree hopefully) to become an english teacher. I have been an MT for roughly seven years, five months give or take including schooling. But since i feel that Big Company (fourth down upper left panel of your screen, starts with "m") that says they dont outsource, but we cant be be so sure. I feel that the work is not anymore paying well right now. (maybe im just not getting the big breaks) I feel that i have to check my alternatives - cause im not getting any younger. Its tough out there but i think that god will provide.


Am i too old to be a english teacher?
is there a age requirement on being an english teacher? Or 32 is too old?
I used to be a typing teacher...
I used to be a typing teacher and also had long nails at the time. I got one of those split keyboards (ergonomic) and it helped. Having my hands in that position allowed me to type a lot easier with my longer nails. You might give that a try. Keyboards are really cheap.
I think I wanted to be a teacher
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My mom is a retired teacher, so that was something

we never said at home.  But as much as I have tried to correct my youngest, he  still uses it.  And he and my husband say, That DON'T matter. Yikes.  doesn't doesn't doesn't.  It DOESN'T matter!


You know, when you type doesn't that many times, it no longer looks like a real word.  I double checked the spelling and I'm still not sure it's right.


Traveling teacher
Where in MT, you can E-mail me
My son's teacher sent me an e-mail
a couple of weeks ago and I could not believe that she said, "I hope that makes since." This was from a middle school teacher at that. I couldn't help myself but to write back, "I think I was able to make sense out of this."

From reading numerous other e-mails from this teacher, it is apparent that she also does not know how to appropriately punctuate sentences.

Terribly sad, indeed.
Hey how do you get any work done ROFL and LOL and LOL making QA grade
and all the busy little things you need to do? I think you are management and what happens on many jobs is managements fault. And many management decisions are REVERSED by protesting and that is what I am doing. You must have heard about unions haven't you? They exist to change situations for employees and create a fair playing field. You can go along with the plan or try to do something. I will try to do something. In the meantime, pick yourself up off the floor roley poley MT. I don't like the visual.
Hey how do you get any work done ROFL and LOL and LOL making QA grade
and all the busy little things you need to do? I think you are management and what happens on many jobs is managements fault. And many management decisions are REVERSED by protesting and that is what I am doing. You must have heard about unions haven't you? They exist to change situations for employees and create a fair playing field. You can go along with the plan or try to do something. I will try to do something. In the meantime, pick yourself up off the floor roley poley MT. I don't like the visual.