Article in Advance
Posted By: jami on 2007-05-23
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Did anyone read the article in Advance: Is Mandatory Credentialing Next?
The article says: "we have more and more companies paying premium for credentialed MTs." Is that true? The author is president-elect of AHDI. You all know what that is? Never heard of em. Or is it that new organization that used to be called something else, what was it... I think it had the words Medical Transcription in it. Maybe we should write a letter to tell about the reality of working out here.
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Advance article
Thanks for sharing this article in Advance - don't get magazine anymore since I dropped my AHDI membership. Proud to be part of ATA - we MTs deserve an assocation that will advocate for us.
did anyone see the article in Advance magazine
about how wonderful it is to train Indians to do our job. OH YAAAYYY, LET'S HERE IT FOR SPHERIS AND HEALTHSCRIBE Let's give a big whoopie and cheer them on while they continue to post for transcriptionists on this board and yet outsource and TRAIN Indians to do our job. I guess I'm angry about the article on other levels, such as the fact that it seems that Advance magazine is constantly promoting offshore transcription. This is not the first time they have printed articles like this.
Our hospital used Spheris and Cbay and we spent hours up hours redoing the reports, yet these companies got paid in full. Where is the logic in that? Thank God, administration wised up and brought the work back in. Now we can go back to doing what we've always done ... OUR OWN TRANSCRIPTION ACCURATELY!
Great article about this in Advance (sm)
early this summer -- explained the 3-prong test (instead of the old 20+ questions).
If the service insists you use their software, if the service tells you when you can invoice them (instead of the 2 of you deciding together), if the service, not the client, decides turnaround time and quality, and if the service says you can't subcontract the work and insists on a noncompete clause, then you are an employee.
You can file a form with the IRS if you want your status clarified. Also contact Dept of Labor office in your state.
If you don't have an attorney and accountant on retainer, then you aren't professional enough to be an IC.
Also check the Nolo Press site as they have some excellent reference books regarding IC/employment issues.
Lasted Advance MT article
I was wondering if any of you have read the latest article in Advance about MTs? It's called The MT Critic. Color me stupid but I did not know MTs had to go to medical school to do their jobs? How many of you know the average size of the left atrium of the heart? How many of you would contradict the doctor's vital signs because the patient had a fractured ankle and you just knew that because of his pain, those vitals could not possibly be correct? It is no wonder we are not attracting qualified people to our profession. What are your thoughts?
Link to Advance IC v. employee article (sm)
which discusses the 3-fold test that the IRS is using instead of the former 20-factor list.
I know of very few MTSOs which really treat ICs like ICs.
My best friend successfully challenged the company she worked for -- she got unemployment and a nice tax credit; the company owner got hit with huge penalties.
Regarding the Advance article, here's how I would have handled the examples
I'm curious how other MTs would have handled them?
1. Hemoglobin 9, hematocrit 39. (I would have flagged this with a blank for the hemoglobin and sent to QA).
2. The nose and mouth were suctioned on the perineum (during a C-section dictation). (I would have changed "perineum" to "abdomen" and sent it on).
3. SKIN: Without lesions, rashes or scars (Patient has HIV and kaposi sacroma). (I'm not the doctor. I did not examine the patient. Therefore, I would have transcribed as dictated and sent it as usual).
4. Left atrium is normal, measuring 4.6 cm. (I don't get paid enough to second guess the doctor on whether the LA is "normal" or not. You get what you pay for.)
5. VITAL SIGNS: Heart rate 70, respirations 18, BP 120/70 (in an 18-year-old with a comminuted ankle fracture). (Again, the patient may have gotten pain medication by the time the doctor saw him, so perhaps he/she didn't have pain at the time of examination and so the vitals were normalized. I wasn't there, I don't know. Type verbatim and send it on!)
Advance
I too saw it and was as angry as you are! I'm canceling my subscription, how 'bout you?
Thank you in advance it should be !! nm
TYIF -- something like Thank goodness it's Friday, but not that either. OOOPS !
thanks in advance..................nm
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Advance is another one.
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Since ADVANCE is free, there would
be little immediate impact if we cancel our subscriptions. Contact the advertisers and express your displeasure. They're the ones who provide the income stream for ADVANCE. They need to know that the people they're trying to reach are displeased and that their companies are associated with an extremely unpopular position.
how to advance in the MT field ...
I am wondering what it takes to advance to another position in the MT field. I've been an MT for about 13 years, acute care for 12 of those years. I'm tired of typing and have done QA as well, but the pay is horrible. What does it take to move up the ladder to another position, such as MT supervisor or account manager? I'm just curious. I know there are probably many more qualified people than I out there for any such position, but curiosity has got me as to the general qualifications and average salaries of each. Anyone know? Thanks....
how is Advance irrelevant?
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I sent Advance magazine an email
I think if enough people did, then maybe they will stop glamourizing the overseas work. This is the third article in a year's time that they have done. A few months back Advance actually interviewed an Indian owner, picture and all, about his company!!!
If we cancel our subscriptions, Advance won't be able to
sell as much advertising. THAT is where they make their money, not by promoting offshoring. If they can't distribute XX numbers of copies per month, the advertisers will go elsewhere. Boycott ADVANCE and spread the word. Shut the traitors down.
lol=laughing out loud, tia= thanks in advance
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Current ADVANCE issue is MT pay
Cover story: Are MTs Paid Fairly. This story needs rebuttals. (I don't know if I spelled that right -- too mad to look it up.) There is another article about MTing as well as some good letters to the editor. No, I didn't write them. Not promoting self.
Look, this magazine wants feedback. Controversy creates publicity which creates readership. Please think about sending your own letters to the editor. Write what you write here. Let more people involved in our field know your thoughts whether they be MTs or not.
No, I don't work for ADVANCE. I'm just an MT just like most of you. I just want our voices to be heard by more people who call the shots that affect us. This is one venue. Even if you don't like the publication, fight back and make your voices heard!!! What a lot of you write here would be fantastic letters to the Editor which would reach a wider spectrum of our associates than this forum for MTs. We've got to keep the topic of the MT situation HOT in the media. You can submit articles to them as well. Get busy, PLEASE!!
Advance is irrelevant. Who cares what they say?
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Letter to Editor-Advance
I will write a letter...
Advance to the 21st Century and get a new job
I couldn't believe it either. Advance has gone the way of offshore, just like AAMT
I sent a comment to Advance and heard back from them
supposedly, they are going to put my letter in the next edition in Letter to the Editor .... we'll see. But I did not cancel my subscription.
You mean that MSN link to Melbourne IT? (it comes up each time). Thanks in advance. nm
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Try off of the Advance Magazine web site, pasted inside. nm
http://health-information.advanceweb.com/main.aspx
Mayo Clinic in AZ has an ad for in-house MT in Advance Mag, $19/hr base pay. sm
Plus shift diff and bonus, plus $1000 sign-on bonus, and relocation $. What a great offer if it's true.
Anyone read Letter to Editor in ADVANCE see message
February 26, 2007 issue? Two letters regarding MT and AAMT.
Advance magazine? Anyone notice the letter to the editor?
It's on page 5 entitled Does Walmart or Home Depot pay better?......Gee, I wonder what company this person is talking about? Okay, which one of you sent this in? hahaha!
Well, while everything the writer of this letter says is true about the company, I think we all know most of us make a bit more than 8 to 10 bux an hour. For myself, it's about twice that. If I really were only making that for what I'm doing, I WOULD head over the the Walmart or Target. I would NOT do this for 10 bux an hour NO WAY in HE double toothpicks!
Idea in letter to Editor in Advance magazine (sm)
Just last night I read a letter in the Advance for Health Information Professionals from a former MR who is now a cancer registrar and loves it. I had looked into that myself a few years ago, although I chose to stay with MT. At the time there were on-line courses through community colleges.
What about coding? I have a friend who works now for a local hospital at home doing ambulatory coding.
Just some thoughts.
BTW, the letter to Advance can probably be found on-line at advanceweb.com/him. It's the Nov 5 issue.
don't cancel ADVANCE subscriptions - just send an email or letter
detailing how disgusted you are with the fact that they are promoting offshore training and offshoring transcription. This is the third article on this sort of topic that the magazine has done in a year.
I find this particularly offensive because so many hospitals/medical record departments get the magazine and if they see this, then companies like Spheris, CBay, Healthscribe, and others will be getting called to come do their transcription!
So please, don't cancel your subscription, just voice your opinion and comments. Thank you.
MODERATOR - I am apologizing in advance for my nasty remark to a poster, but I had to get it out of
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DocQscribe and Dragon Naturally Speaking.. Can they work together? Thanks in advance.
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There was an excellent letter to the editor in Advance Magazine last month sm
that spelled how why, but here are some of my reasons:
1. In all their years in existence, the AAMT has yet to make life easier for the AMERICAN MT. In fact, the state of MT in this country is worse than I have seen it in a very long time.
2. The AAMT chose to align themselves with MTIA whose board of directors is largely composed of Indians. They also support offshoring and have adopted the motto "work smarter" which to them means pay hundreds of dollars for a CMT that most companies will not even acknowledge and then hundreds more dollars to join AAMT yearly to get their crappy publications.
3. They are now certifying offshore MTs. Yes, nothing like opening the cover of the AMERICAN Association for Medical Transcription and seeing the names of the Indians who have received their CMT.
4. I get less pay than I did 20 years ago and offshoring is the main reason. So pardon me if I am a little testy that I just paid so much money to an organization who stabbed me in the back.
5. I certainly think they SHOULD change their name to something else. How about the I SOLD THE AMERICAN MT DOWN THE RIVER ASSOCIATION FOR MEDICAL TRANSCRIPTION. Bitter? You bet. Gosh, they made so many promises and all they did was take our money for a piece of paper rarely recognized by anyone at the same time extending a hand to the reason I am making less money than I did 20 years ago!
6. It's a bloated association full of lots of people who "do things." Everything except stick up for the American MT.
7. Oh yes, and the BOS is ridiculous.
Advance for Health Information Professionals. Mostly geared toward coders now. nm
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Emdat platform?? Good, bad or ugly? Any info is appreciated. Thanks in advance. NM
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In the back of Advance Magazine you see all the coding jobs. Can access it online, too.
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Sombeody actually wrote a really good letter to Advance a few issues back. sm
It was in the Jan. 12, 2009, issue, letter to the Editor titled, "What Good is Change for MTs?" by Wendy Keller. She does attack AHDI in a very intelligently written letter.
article
51, trained on the job 26 years ago,
article...
I'm 57, learned on the job 28 years ago. I can out transcribe people half my age. I have no arthritis, no carpal tunnel syndrome, no fibromyalgia and only occasionally get a crick in my neck from my job. My QA score is 100%, has been for years, and I type 90 wpm, transcribe 200 lph at least and that's on an account that is almost all ESL. I could do this job another 20 or 30 years if I wanted to (barring sickness or accident that could happen at any age).
As far as the AAMT rep saying younger people are not lining up for this job - have they done anything to market MT to younger people? I'm sure a lot of high school kids or even community college people would be interested in this work if they were educated about it.
One last thought - the people they are offshoring this work to in India, Pakistan, Trinidad, the Philippines, are not spring chickens!!!
I for one am sick of AAMT trying to justify their greediness by blaming their victims, the US MTs.
article
There was an article in the news online that said it has spread to 3 more countries through ducks and geese and that it's only a matter of time before someone carries it here.
one article
Boy do you have it wrong, we have both stated our sources about googliNG pet food ingedredients, and if you choose not too, that is your problem, I am sorry for your pets, but you need to read up, not one article but thousands. I hope you check your facts, sincerely,
Article
Can anyone tell me where this article was originally published? I forwarded it to a friend who asked... I wasn't able to tell her.
Thanks!
Article.........sm
http://health-information.advanceweb.com/common/EditorialSearch/AViewer.aspx?AN=HI_06may22_hip18.html&AD=05-22-2006
Try pasting this in your browser - it's an article from the latest Advance magazine called A New Set of Shoes for MTs!
I saw that article too
My first thoughts were like you, just another way to cheat us. But then when I considered the possibility (trying to be kind here) that some companies are not giving us full credit for every character typed (as in perhaps counting 3 Keystrokes as 1 as has been mentioned here before), then even if they didn't pay us for spaces, we might make more in such a situation if they had to pay us for every single black character. They can't hide that from us! In other words, they would not be able to manipulate the line counting as much as I think they are doing now. Now how much they would pay us for every black character might differ from company to company, but I think this might work in our favor overall. If pay based on production is better for us than an hourly wage, we need to find what works most to our advantage. And with the difference there is out there now in line counts from one company to another, pay by character might help us.
And yes, even if it is a template, every character should still count as well as spaces, returns, tabs, demographic insertion, and also for our knowledge which comes into play every single time we keep the dictators from sounding like idiots and/or catching their mistakes. Let's face it -- we do at least basic editing too, folks. We are NOT just typists! We should be reimbursed for our knowledge as well as production. We're not donating our time to a charity here. This is a way of making a living. We should be paid for whatever we do for the company we work for, just like in any other job. This might be a step in the right direction.
I am cautiously almost hopeful.
Here is the article
http://www.networkworld.com/net.worker/news/2002/0408networker.html
I think her article is a little sm
outdated in reference to VR. Apparently she hasn't been out there in trenches lately. There is a LOT of VR work out there and unfortunately the pay isn't great, in fact it's awful for the work involved. Although it won't actually replace the MT, but rather move them into a different area, the pay is never going to match the effort that must go into it.
FYI - article
I just read an article yesterday in the Oakland Press that Oakland County, Michigan, is getting rid of all their court reporters and going electronic to save money.
EMR Article
I have done transcription for about 19 years. Over the years I have been concerned about off-shoring and voice recognition, but still felt fairly confident about still having work for a long time. Now, with the EMR system coming into play, along with the other factors mentioned above, I feel that eventually, not too far off, this is a losing battle.
I love doing this type of work. It has supported my family while my kids were growing up, I had a secure hospital job, and the luxury of working at home, I have to face reality though.
I am going to go back to school and maybe look into being a radiology tech and/or ultrasound. I will not take anything in medical records, such as coding or biling, as I think that will also become automated eventually, and is already in some instances.
I think doing the editing and/or transcription (if there is any) would be a good part-time second job to have in addition to another job, but not fulltime, as I don't think you could support yourself. I still have a good 15 years or more of working left and do not want to be left out in the cold whle hoping that this is not really going to happen.
I think if the off-shoring could be addressed it would keep more work here in the long-run to keep us working until we have other options. I have seen postings here regarding contacting the president regarding off-shoring transcription (which is a good idea) but you need to also write your local congressman in your particular area. That is what they are there for (that is very important.)
It is ridiculous that the medical records of patients are so highly confidential, but yet we will send it to another country, and with the economy as horribile as it is too.
Maybe the government should retrain us LOL.
I do feel sorry for the newbies, and that these MT schools keep recruiting people into this occupation, and they probably know full well what is going on.
Just my opinion.
EMR article HERE
From Medscape Family Medicine
Physicians Are Talking About...
The Government Push for Electronic Medical Records
Posted 02/24/2009
Nancy R. Terry
The economic stimulus plan currently being considered by Congress allocates $20 billion to health information technology such as electronic medical records (EMRs). Recent postings on Medscape Physician Connect (MPC), a physicians-only discussion board, offer frank opinions about the utility of EMRs in clinical practice -- opinions that are decidedly mixed.
"EMR is the worst thing that has happened to me professionally in over 25 years of practice. My care of patients is impeded and the quality of my care is worse as a direct effect of the introduction of EMR," says a MPC contributor who championed the installation of an EMR system for his physician group.
"I absolutely love our EMR," says a nephrologist. "It has improved the quality of our practice immensely. I spent a lot of time customizing for our practice, but it was worth it. Everything is point and click. To improve care and cost, all patients need a Web-based collection of medical records that include hospitalization, lab reports, x-rays, as well as office notes. That would be the ultimate care."
Physicians who are dissatisfied with EMR systems cite loss of productivity, the negative impact on patient care, and high maintenance requirements. Physicians who have embraced EMRs cite the increased efficiency the systems have brought to their practices. EMRs tend to get high marks from subspecialists and low marks from primary care physicians.
Some of the MPC physicians least satisfied with their EMR systems are those practicing at large healthcare companies or medical centers. "My hospital solicited medical staff support for EMR," says one MPC contributor. "After implementation, administration took over and now EMR is solely for the benefit of medical records as a storage device. To he11 with the medical and nursing staffs. RNs are input clerics rather than beside nurses."
"The very few efficiencies were all on the administrative side," says a regional medical director who helped bring an EMR system to a nationwide healthcare company. "A good sales pitch with nice graphics and testimonials sell it, then the clinical staff is left to suffer."
"EMRs need to address work flows and clinical efficiencies and not seek to provide administrative support," says a general practice physician. "Unfortunately, the administrators are the ones with the time and energy. The rest of us are seeing patients."
In smaller practices, issues of EMR maintenance and support infringe upon patient care. "In my clinic," says a family medicine physician, "provider meetings are completely dominated by EMR issues and problems. There is virtually never time left for discussing topics pertinent to improving patient care."
In speaking about their day-to-day experience with EMRs, primary care physicians complain that entering patient information is cumbersome and time consuming, often because of a template-based system that does not reflect the patient encounter.
"The assumption of the EMR is that you already know the diagnosis when the patient arrives." says an MPC contributor. "This may be better for specialty care, but in primary care, patients come in with fatigue, rash, insomnia, diarrhea, and cough. It's difficult to enter all this until after the visit."
An internist who describes herself as "tech savvy" says that her system's scripted entries for patient information are inadequate. "If you free-text, it is much more time consuming. And we are discouraged from free-texting by our administration because it doesn't trigger adequate billing codes. Not only has it reduced my time with patients, it has added an extra 2 to 3 hours of work each night from home."
The Choice of Systems
"My advice to practitioners," says one MPC contributor, "is wait for a decent EMR that produces useful notes that accurately describe a patient encounter in a way that helps a clinician."
Waiting may not be an option for much longer, however. One provision of the government stimulus plan would impose reduced payments on physicians who are not "meaningfully using" information technology. Whatever is meant by the provision's phrasing, one thing is clear: the push is on to go electronic. Physicians must learn how to make information technology work for them. One EMR expert says that it starts with the choice of systems. "Primary care practices should stay away from templates and stick to a new program by Praxis® [Infor-Med Medical Information Systems, Inc., Woodland Hills, California] that uses pattern recognition of similar cases as well as rare cases. It decreases the workload immensely. For specialty practices, I recommend templates, and Visionary™ Dream EHR [Visionary Medical Systems, Inc., Tampa, Florida] is excellent in being very user friendly," says an MPC contributor whose research in medical management focuses on EMR systems.
Another MPC contributor notes that the technologically adventurous can customize an EMR system by using open-source software. In open-source systems, he explains, the source code needed for programming is included in the software, making the program infinitely adaptable. "When you buy most proprietary software, you have to accept the functions that come with it, as designed by the developers. With open-source systems, you can modify the software to your heart's content."
Is a Choice of Systems Really a Choice?
For some physicians, however, EMR systems remain a nonissue, and the heavy government funding of healthcare information technologies is nothing more than a smokescreen obscuring the real issues in primary care.
"The government and the public are not able to deal with the real problems facing medical practice and the real solutions necessary to turn it around (ie, reasonable reimbursement rates, malpractice reform, regulation of the unscrupulous practices of the insurance industry)," says an otolaryngologist. He adds that once healthcare information technology is "fully implemented and solves nothing, we can start to talk about real reform and real answers."
Author Information
Nancy R. Terry, medical writer and editor, Jackson Heights, New York
Disclosure: Nancy R. Terry, has disclosed no relevant financial relationships.
Medscape Family Medicine. 2009; ©2009 Medscape
That was a really good article
understand it. Alas, many will not listen. Many would not even read the article if you printed it up and delivered it to their front door. Many don't care. Many believe it's a lot of "hype." But this country IS falling apart. And the big whigs know it too. I don't know if it's so much that they don't care, but that this is actually part of their plan. When the U.S. finally comes unraveled, they'll step in with a new dictatorship, and there will be precious little any of us can do about it.
chilling article
Read this
New Orleans: A Disaster Waiting to Happen by George E. Curry NNPA columnist Originally posted 9/1/2005
I am angry. I am angry at the mayor of New Orleans. I am angry at the governor of Louisiana. I am angry at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). I am angry at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), now part of the Department of Homeland Security. I am angry at George W. Bush. I am angry because they were warned last November that New Orleans was one of the “Disasters Waiting to Happen” – and did nothing about it. Consequently, hundreds, if not thousands, of people are dead. Needlessly.
In an eerie prediction of what happened as a result of Hurricane Katrina, an article titled, “What if Hurricane Ivan Had Not Missed New Orleans?” was published in the Natural Hazards Observer, a major journal headquartered at the University of Colorado in Boulder. It was written by Shirley Laska of the Center for Hazards Assessment, Response and Technology at the University of New Orleans. In other words, this was an article written by a reputable author in a reputable national publication that should have been read by people involved in disaster relief. If they had taken heed, many of the dead in New Orleans would be alive today.
Under the headline, “What if Ivan Had Hit New Orleans?” the author wrote, “New Orleans was spared this time, but had it not been, Hurricane Ivan would have:
- Pushed a 17-foot storm surge into Lake Pontchartrain;
- Caused the levees between the lake and the city to overtop and fill the city ‘bowl’ with water from lake levee to river levee, in some places as deep as 20 feet;
- Flooded the north shore suburbs as much as seven miles inland; and
- Inundated inhabited areas south of the Mississippi River.
“Up to 80 percent of the structures in these flooded areas would have been severely damaged from wind and water. The potential for such extensive flooding and the resulting damage is the result of a levee system that is unable to keep up with the increasing flood threats from a rapidly eroding coastline and thus unable to protect the ever-subsiding landscape.”
Until I read this article, I had said one of the positive things that I hoped would come out of this disaster is that relief experts would realize that they need to make special provisions for the poor, elderly and homeless. In essence, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. Now, however, I realize that there is no benefit in doubt.
The warning was there in black and white:
“For those without means, the medically challenged, residents without personal transportation, and the homeless, evacuation requires significant assistance.”
Laska spelled it out in even more detail.
During Hurricane Ivan in 2004, she continues, ‘Residents who did not have personal transportation were unable to evacuate even if they wanted to. Approximately 120,000 residents (51,000 housing units x 2.4 persons/unit) do not have cars.
“A proposal made after the evacuation from Hurricane Georges to use public transit buses to assist in their evacuation out of the city was not implemented for Ivan. If Ivan had struck New Orleans directly it is estimated that 40-60,000 residents of the area would have perished.”
The additional problem of people having the means to leave, but refusing to do so was addressed in the article.
“Researchers have estimated that prior to a ‘big one,’ approximately 700,000 residents of the greater New Orleans area (out of 1.2 million) would evacuate,” Laska wrote. “In the case of Hurricane Ivan, officials estimate that up to 600,000 evacuated from metropolitan New Orleans between daybreak on Monday, September 13 and noon on Wednesday, September 13, when the storm turned and major roads started to clear…
“The fact that 600,000 residents evacuated means an equal number did not. Recent evacuation surveys show that two thirds of nonevacuees with the means to evacuate chose not to leave because they felt safe in their homes. Other nonevacuees with means relied on a cultural tradition of not leaving or were discouraged by negative experiences with past evacuations.”
Those that dismiss environmentalists as kooks, should pay special attention to the observations about marshes.
“Loss of the coastal marshes that dampened earlier storm surges puts the city at increasing risk to hurricanes,” the article noted. “Eighty years of substantial river leveeing has prevented spring flood deposition of new layers of sediment into the marshes, and a similarly lengthy period of marsh excavation activities related to oil and gas exploration and transportation canals for the petrochemical industry have threatened marsh integrity.”
Using the Hurricane Ivan model to predict what would happen if a major hurricane struck New Orleans, Laska wrote: “Should this disaster become a reality, it would undoubtedly be one of the greatest disasters, if not the greatest, to hit the United States, with estimated costs exceeding 100 billion dollars. According to the Red Cross, such an event could be even more devastating than a major earthquake in California. Survivors would have to endure conditions never before experienced in a North American disaster.”
It ended, “The hurricane scenario for New Orleans that these conveying risks portend is almost unimaginable. Hurricane Ivan had the potential to make the unthinkable a reality. Next time New Orleans may not be so fortunate.”
George E. Curry is editor-in-chief of the NNPA News Service and BlackPressUSA.com. He appears on National Public Radio (NPR) three times a week as part of “News and Notes with Ed Gordon.” In addition, his radio commentary is syndicated each week by Capitol Radio News Service (301/588-1993). To contact Curry or to book him for a speaking engagement, go to his Web site, www.georgecurry.com.
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