Aren't politics and religion social no-nos? sm
Posted By: JMO on 2006-03-27
In Reply to: Just an observation.... - ????
And I believe there is a very good reason for that.
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I neve discuss politics or religion
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To those below arguing politics...
Please dispute this. I welcome it. It seems like Bush's "lies" had lots of company, although those quoted below have washed their hands of their own comments. How convenient.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998.
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Joe Lieberman (D-CT), John McCain (Rino-AZ) and others, Dec. 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I b elieve that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.
"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his contin ued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
Office politics. SM
There was a lot of that before I became an MT. Maybe I was just lucky, after I went into MT we were on a great incentive plan and were highly competitive, I don't think we had time to gossip and backstab. I know what you mean though, I have had those jobs.
About Politics Board (sm)
is ForuMatrix part of MTStars? I couldn't quite figure it out. I see Billers/Coders forum is hosted there as well. Please explain?
Please take to Politics. Locking. (NM)
Goldbird
office politics
I will never forget the Friday night when, after working from 6:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. Monday through Thursday, I left my desk at 5:25 to head for home and my supervisor went ballistic. After four 12 hours days, I left my desk 5 minutes early (it was a good 5 minute walk to the time clock) and she got angry with me. Nor will I forgot all of the times my supervisor procastinated on deadlines and guess who was there late meeting her deadlines? In-house is not for me, I enjoy my freedom.
What do politics have to do with this challenge?
I feel bad that you lost your account, but you don't need to be taking your anger out on other people and start calling them Republicans and blaming her for your belief of the mistreatment of MTs. This was a simple challenge on how to make more money and spend your time wisely.
It's still on the Politics board
Under the title "Do you think people will begin to take any job."
Politics and gourds
I need to check in to the politics board, haven't been there in awhile. Still painting gourds and other stuff. Off today with the grandkids to do some cave exploring and try to cool off.
Insanity in politics in America
....I hear you. This insanity is not going to end until we, the American folks, the backbone of this country, BECOME MORE PROACTIVE. We have become a complacent society. We accept anything the government puts out there as the truth. We need to question everything, look and dig deep as to the motivation of our leaders. We are a stressed out society, have become more materialistic, tuned out, burned out and so we have no energy left to become more proactive in our government, OUR VOICE.
Look around what is happening in this country. Our leaders, especialy Bush, project an all American image, but how American can it be when we give attention more to providing jobs in third world countries than attention to the job situation in our own country? Why even Bush used Indian BPO services for his 2nd term campaign!! Did he not think of us Americans first? We outsource
everything with no intelligent guideline to assess the effects. Our country has stopped looking at long term and long range effects and has substituted short tem fixes which benefit powerful corporations. Think about it and do some research, the Bush dynasty has been built on oil. They are a powerful family and have had a long term relationship with the Bin Ladens and the Saudis. How objective can he and his administration be? Just think about this - since his popularity is at its worst, funny how all of a sudden the gas prices are dropping? ... And no I'm not a democrat, a liberal, just a concerned citizen. Our government has become all spin. It's all about the spin.
(nm) I tried to post on the politics board, but was not able.......sorry
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I have no desire to talk politics.
That would be true most especially here .. this is not a place for that sort of heavy discussion. I prefer face to face. And, just to be clear, I too am of the mind that we certainly need to be vigilant, and I was merely responding to the fact that I found it ironic that this particular day was chosen .. I will be watching the Boston Pops in 10 minutes and thanking God for having the freedoms I enjoy. I did not need to be chided as we all have opinions.
where on politics, under demo, repub, etc etc??
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office politics never change--sm
find another at-home job. It won't stop just because you want it to. JMO
Always have felt they were more politics than beneficial. nm
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Take the political banter to the Politics board.
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Celine. No contest. Besides, Babs is into politics now. :) nm
IC good thing is no more office politics.....nm
This isn't RELIGION 101
This happens to be medical transcription we're talking about....maybe you're one of those recruiters that will hire just about anyone, including illiterate people, to take more of our jobs away....this isn't about JUDGING anyone.....it's only about raising the bar and DEMANDING quality and professionalism from our peers......I wonder what you're work looks like......hmmmmm. I still stick to what I said.....If you can't pass a basic vocabulary test in the ENGLISH language.....MOVE ON!
Religion
Can you spell blasphemy?
Post political discussion on the Politics boards.
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Post political discussion on the Politics boards.
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As always, political posts should be posted on the Politics board.
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Posts about political topics go on the Politics board
If you are talking about President Obama's stance, action, statements concerning offshoring - it is political. It goes on the Politics board.
If you are talking about healthcare industries and what Congress, the Senate, the GOP or other leaders are doing or not doing about - it is political. It goes on the Politics board.
Thanks,
Moderator
"Wacked out about religion". How come you sm
don't say that about the others who are completely wacko? I can think of Tom Cruise and Scientology Richard Gere and Buddhism (I believe)to name just two. I say good for Stephen to share his faith. If others in Hollywood can do it, he shouldn't suffer the consequences for it.
pushing religion
I say that about anyone pushing their beliefs..be it gere, cruise, the pillsbury dough boy..You have beliefs, wonderful, so do I..however, that all changes when you try to push your religion/beliefs on others..More power buddists, scientologists, christians, pagans, hindus, muslims, you name it..just dont try to sway me unless I ask for it..
we now have freedom OF religion for all
you are perfectly free to celebrate whatever holiday you wish to NOW. The majority celebrating Christmas does not diminish that in any way, shape or form.
The only time religion
is when people try to force it down your throat or give you the holier-than-thou attitude of "I'm going to heaven, and you're going to hell."
religion board
How would one access the religion board.
Einstein did not believe in religion.
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Organized religion
basically is another club. It ends up being about its own entity and not the spirituality it is supposed to embrace. Christ said basically the same thing when he was on earth.
Maybe you could get the other employees together to voice your feelings and needs to this employer to see if you can prompt some very necessary changes. If not, I would start seriously looking for a healthier work environment.
Remember that it is also not good for the people who take advantage to be allowed to do so (work or personal).
I am so sorry about your friend/co-worker. I hope you can gain strength from this loss to make some changes.
organized religion
Your comment aboput organized religion is off teh subject and snarky. This person did not die because it was A CATHOLIC hospital and I for one am tired of this sort of modern day sneering. I work at a Catholic Hospital. I absolutely loathe the manager who will not give me a singel Sunday off but she herself is a Catholic and tries to tell me waht church to go to. She's not a jerk becuase of her religion. She's just a jerk. Period. I won't die from stress becuase my life is worth more that 400 lines. But to make off the wall comments about religion is not ok.
Religion vs. spirituality. sm
Religion is for people who are afraid of going to h*ll. Spirituality is for those who have been there and don't want to ever go back. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.
No one who is actively abusing drugs and/or alcohol can have a relationship with Jesus Christ--or with anyone else, for that matter, other than a very dysfunctional one. You must first be clean and sober.
If I'm that much of a sinner, maybe you should just pray for me instead of flaming me here on this message board. Jesus might like that better, who knows? :D
Thread starting to get out of hand. If you want to talk politics, post
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IMO - no. If he hits you once, he will hit you again. It will not matter what religion you believe
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It is not about religion being a sensitive subject, it is about
posting on the correct forum. The Main board gets so jammed that we have had to create other forums for particular subjects. We only ask that posters kindly utilize those forums instead of posting every single thing on the Main board.
Again, thank you.
Administrator
All religion is a cult of one form or another - nm
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Where is the religion board? I need some new spells. nm
Hated it. The office politics, the dressing up, the back-stabbing. I do in 4 hours what I did in 8
at home. That hospital environment with all those women backstabbing, worrying about how long other people took for breaks or lunch, who was in favor with the supervisor, who fit in with the cliques, UGGGGGGHHHHH! I can't believe I am saying this but MQ looks good compared to those days now that you got me to thinking. (Not that good pay-wise/benefit-wise though)
If you are a visitor wanting to turn the Hurricane Katrina disaster into politics, take it to the
Politics forums. Do not post on the Main board. Administrator
The religion issue came at a good time. sm
My daughter is 10.
We're in the car and she wanted to call her friend Jessica on the cell phone. She said, "It's after 2:00, so they're already home from church."
Then she says, "You know, mama, I don't mind going to church with them, but I hate going up and eating that yucky bread."
I said, "They had you go up for communion?" and she said, "I think that's what it is. The guy in the robes puts a yucky cracker thingy in your mouth, but they call it bread for some reason."
So I said, "You don't have to go up and take communion, you're not Catholic. I could talk to Jessica's parents and tell them that you aren't a Catholic and you shouldn't go up and take communion."
She said, She said, "Well, I'd feel stupid just sitting there when everyone else went up. I'm not going to go someplace bad if I do the Catholic thing and I'm not really a Catholic am I?"
I said, "Of course not. You just don't have to that's all."
She said, "It's okay, I don't really mind it that much." After a few minutes she said: "Hey wait a minute, we're not JEWISH ARE WE?!!!"
Another half hour on the different faiths and beliefs and the fact that it doesn't matter what you choose, but that it is a private, personal choice, and that one should never try to convince another person that their way of thinking is the "right" way.
She thought it wasn't a good thing not to have a Christmas tree, but then thought that Hannukah was "really cool" because the kids didn't have to wait to open a present. Then she said, "Well, we could light a candle every night for the Jewish kids because they don't have a Christmas tree and then maybe we could just open a present."
I said, "Nice try kiddo."
Out of the mouths of babes!
In some cases, I think religion is just their latest addiction.
Didn't Stephen Baldwin used to have substance abuse issues? Seems like some of these people just trade in the substance for religion and pursue it with the same enthusiasm.
Hi Eva! Answered here because I don't know which category to go under on the religion board.
The book of Daniel will have a lot of clues about this, but in a nutshell, the wild beast of Revelation is a composite or sum total of the beasts pictured in the book of Daniel. The beasts in the book of Daniel represented the ruling powers, or governments, of the day. The beast of Revelation represents the same today and gets its power from the great dragon, which is Satan (Rev. 13:2, 12:9), so it isn't surprising that the bible calls satan the ruler of the world (John 12:31, 16:11) and the god of this world (2Cor. 4:4). However, at Daniel 2:44 we're told through prophecy that eventually God will bring an end to all human rulership and will begin exercising his rulership over the human family as the one true universal soverign. He will do this through his son, Jesus Christ (Dan. 7:13,14). The Kingdom mentioned in Daniel 7:14 is the same one Jesus taught us to pray for in the model prayer or Lord's prayer. God's will is being done in heaven because he rules there. So, praying for his his kingdom to come and his will to be done on the earth as it is done in heaven is the same as asking him to take over the rulership of the earth, which he will do. However, that will mean an end to all human rulership here on the earth (Rev. 16:14), which is why the beast of Revelation will be destroyed along with the one that gives the beast its power. That destruction will take place in the "battle of the great day of God Almighty," which is referred at Rev. 16:16 as Armageddon. That is the battle over sovereignty, and that is why it is with the governments (or kings) of the earth. All those supporting those kings or governments will have its figurative mark on their hands and/or foreheads showing that they support the beast with their mental energies (mark on their foreheads) and with their actions (mark on their hands). Those supporting the beast and putting their faith in it will be destroyed along with it (Rev. 19:20,21).
In a nutshell.
There are several forums to post on at the Religion link.
I wouldn't call it "fragmented". The poster can ask his/her question on more than one religion board and receive a variety of responses in which to make an informed decision.
Surprised this did not get yanked to the Religion board - sm
everything else does (get yanked that is)....this board is pretty boring these days. Oh well, I am getting more work done so that is a good thing.
All religious topics go on the Religion board. (SM)
Stop now with this or I will delete the whole thread.
Goldbird
social anxiety
Maybe we're loners.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/partyofone/
Social anxiety, yes!!
So good to know I am not alone. Just last night I was at karate class watching my kids and watching all the other moms interact. This is how it always is for me. Watching everyone else chat and laugh and have a good time. I am very uncomfortable in social situations, and it seems like everyone else is not at all uncomfortable. Feels like I am the only one in the world with this. I don't really want to rely on a med, but I don't know how to get past this. All my neighbors are very close knit, I am the only one who never interacts or joins in on the get-togethers. They must think I'm stuck up. The truth is, I would rather take a beating than go to a block party! Any ideas on how to get past this?
social recluse
Why would anyone become an MT if they needed a lot of socializing? One of the main reasons I became an MT is lack of need for interaction with others.
I was a social recluse before this job.
...which I guess is why I have adapted so well to it. I could never handle gossip or having to walk around pretending to be a happy "team member" in an office setting. I watch "The Office" as a reminder as to how pukey that whole workin' in an office situation really is...but it is extremely funny when you aren't a part of that atmosphere anymore though. I once worked with a female version of Dwight and it was so not funny. Dwight=funny.
Social graces?
Been there done that. I have a Jewish doctor who mumbles and has a very strong New York accent - - and he has no social graces whatsoever - - burps, sneezes, coughs, sucks snot, eats with his mouth full -- YUK!!! The worst part is you have to listen again because you couldn't understand what he said the first or second time.
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