ARUBA CASE
Posted By: MY INPUT on 2005-07-06
In Reply to: blame the victim, geez - dd
The parents had to known she was going to drink in Aruba. Why would these 17 and 18 years want to go of course to drink or they could have went to Florida instead. Even though this girl made bad judgement if she drank to much and went off with these guys this did not have to happen. We need to blame who ever did this. If my 18 year old wanted to go to Aruba I would probably say yes but lecture her a head of time. I know my 18 year probably drinks in college but I told her I don't want to know this. What I do not see I don't have to worry about it. I have no control of her when she is in college but she is not allowed to drink in our house or anyone elses until she is 21. I have a feeling that her body has been thrown in the ocean. The whole situation is so so sad.
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Any thoughts on the case in Aruba?
Little by little they are losing ground. Commentator was saying that even if the last person to see her alive was Joran, the 17-year-old still in jail, they can't prove anything. Maybe they fell asleep on the beach and when he woke she was gone. Commentator said that if after all this time they could not break a 17-year-old and get a confession, with his two friends and father in jail, there is a possibility that he did not do it.
PS: I think her mother should go home instead of second-guessing the government over there. She is convinced the three are guilty with the father as an accomplice. How do you come to that conclusion with sureness? That's kind of like some foreigner over here coming over and if something were to happen to them and they disappeared after a night of drinking and last being seen with a stranger, his parents come over and criticize our legal system because we can't PROVE foul-play. Just a bit over-the-top for a mother who should be grieving the loss of her daughter instead of criticizing the authorities. Hey and another thing, how about criticizing the chaperones who lost contact with the daughter and did not discover she was missing till she failed to show up at the airport!!
I wouldn't use lower case. I'd use upper case. Don't worry about it. nm
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Aruba
 Yes, she is an American, but she is an American missing in a foreign country. Just as we have to abide by the rules of another country's government, when in that country, the same holds true here.
There is an excellent team of volunteers from Texas in Aruba, the FBI also is on the island. I've heard on CNN that there have been cases of young,female tourist being kidnapped in Aruba, then shipped not to far to Venezuela, to be held to work as a prostitute.
In that case, then we'd have to tell yet another government, that we followed the trail to your country and now our agents will be moving in
We are the greatest nation on earth, but we do not have the right to just force our way into another country and demand they do things our way
FBI in Aruba
 Do you have any clue as to how many born and bred American citizens, under the age of 21, many under 15, our precious children, who have been taken by their parent, who is of another nationality, kidnapped from their custodial parent and wisked away to a foreign country by the other parent?
This usually occurs when the idiotic courts give visitation to said parent, knowing full well they are a flight risk, yet duh...."trust they won't do anything stupid"
As of 6 months ago, there were 2138 children born in the US, American citizens, that have unwillingly been taken to a foreign country, leaving their custodial parent caught in this catch 22 of trying to get their child back
The Hague Convention specifically prohibits this action, has rules to force the other country to return these children, yet the custodial parent is often left to hire Soldiers of Fortune to go in, stake out the country, living area, school where these children are, then they attempt to do what our country, the country that SHOULD be bringing these children home, fail to do! This should automatically be done, yet we have to try to argue "diplomatically" all the while these kids are kept from their parent the courts gave custody to. It's not cheap to hire a hit squad to get your kids back, it cost's thousands of dollars to do so.
In my opinion, the USA/FBI/CIA/ SECRET SERVICE all should be concentrating on THESE innocent victims a bit more than a young 18 yr old that made a bad judgement.
Where is the face time for the mothers or fathers of these children...the media won't give it to these kids, unless it is deemed worthwhile, and IMHP, each and every one of these children is worthwhile. It's just such an overwhelming thing to go through...I know, my nephew is somewhere in Saudi Arabia, growing up now for 3 yrs thinking his mother is dead or did not want him
perhaps you should go to Aruba and help with the investigation (nm)
Speaking of Aruba....
You are EXACTLY right. Good post. We're both going to be crucified for this.
Missing girl in Aruba
Here in the midwest, we recently had a "found college girl", seven years after she disappeared from Texas, and was presumed dead. Turns out, she and her parents had a huge blow-up over a boy, she took off, never to be heard of again....UNTIL, somehow, someone saw her picture in the very same Wal-Mart she had been working in for 5 yrs! She still did not want to talk to her folks, but they since have made small inroads into reuniting
I was just in Aruba -very nice island
Aruba is just like any other tourist destination where as long as you stay in the tourist areas, do not wonder off into the downtown areas at night and practice basic street-smarts, then there is no need for alarm and it is just as safe as any other place. I went to Aruba last month and we had a nice stay but I also went there years ago when I was about 16 w/my friend and her family. Of course we drank our little hearts out but we stayed in the hotel area and never wandered off. I will admit that we were harrassed by locals a bit (and I think it was because we were so young) but we ignored them and ALWAYS stayed together- we used our street smarts!!
It sounds as tho this young girl did not have as much street smarts as you or I. I would never leave with guys I just met by myself even if I were at a bar in my hometown area, nevermind in another country! It is common sense but unfortunately this young girl didn't know any better, or for whatever reason maybe she thought that she was safe with these boys and she probably thought they were just regular kids just like her & her friends. It is very sad that she possibly had to pay the ultimate price for what she thought was just an innocent mistake.
We as parents try to protect our children from so much, but at the same time, I think sometimes we are so focused on keeping the evil of the world out, that we possibly make our children more vulnerable.
So you are educated in the laws of Aruba? Wow.
I sound like I have lack of knowledge about this case, as does Mrs. Twitty. So, I guess me and Mrs. Twitty should look to you for explanations and answers as to where her daughter is and what happened to her? Do you have some inside info the rest of the world is not privy to? I'm just wondering because if not, you are blowing a lot of hot air around and basically just about as uneducated about the laws and the evidence surrounding this case as the rest of us.
Aruba is a foreign country. Their laws
are different than U.S. Father said "no body, no crime" because he knows in their system if they have no body, they have no crime. Therefore, they have to find a body...or they can't prosecute for murder.... Their laws, not ours. That is what it is when you travel outside the country, you are under the foreign country's laws.. Really too bad but that is how it is.
Aruba is not as well equipped to handle this situation (sm)
 as the U.S. is...so therefore, if they are in over their heads, THEY should ask for the U.S. to help, period! That is a resort country, equipped basically to show tourists a good time, and not to handle a missing American case! See my point?
I don't know how you can take off for weeks at a time with all your close relatives and go to Aruba
and not be wealthy. Could you? Indefinitely? You and your husband? And her husband said they may buy a house there if necessary because the mother is not going home w/o Natalee. So assuming that resort island property is not cheap, they can afford to buy a house in Aruba? Can you?
Chandra Levy's parents said the same thing. It's not about Aruba.
It's about the parents. Be mad as hell if you want to. Blame Aruba. But do it quietly. Because if the parents knew ANYTHING, they would catch the perpetrator. They know nothing but just spout accusing everyone of illegal activity just as you do. I do know Aruba and not everyone is related to everyone and there is a blend of nationalities just as Joran is Dutch and the two boys with him were obviously a different nationality. To oversimplify the situation by calling everyone crooked and criminal in Aruba is insane. Perhaps Natalee did some drunk swimming and everyone else in Aruba who has lived life nicely on this pleasant island and never killed anyone before are being falsely accused. Consider that.
Speaking of Aruba and Natalle Holloway from post below
It looks like the Arubans are forming a protest of their own who are offended at Mrs. Twitty and the media reporting they are not conducting a proper investigation and their system is bad while America's system of law and order allowed the sex offenders kill children in Florida and Idaho. The Aruban people have a point you know. One news person interviewed protestors and a very literate gentleman suggested Mrs. Twitty was under Aruban law and she should respect that or go home. In a short statement Mrs. Twitty seems to be backtracking after the protests after Mrs. Twitty stated the legal system allowed criminals (the two brothers) to go free and walk among its citizens and tourists. It's about time these people speak out when Americans come over and criticize their government without a clue how it works or if it is working.
Again, there are professional American search teams in Aruba.
Nobody knows the terrain of the island better than the native  Arubans. Together with advice from the FBI, the search team from Texas and the hundreds of Arubans who do know the island they are doing what they can do. They do not need the hysterical rants and accusations from Mrs. Twitty
Upper case is lower, lower case is upper. Using InstaText. Anyone know how to fix this?
Aargh. It happened all day yesterday. When I brought in text that was all caps
IMPRESSION:
and had lower case on keyboard (as always do), it reverses keyboard commands. This is driving me c-r-a-z-y.
Won't be of much help to your case..
back in the middle 70s.. then got certification in 1987 by AAMT. Been at this for 30 years. Still going strong.. working 2 full time jobs.
In my case, it was because...sm
we live in such a rural area. I call it in the country. A subdivision was built nearby and I know of a couple of people on my road that were requesting DSL too. They put it in on my road shortly after the subdivision was built last year.
Well, in my case....
I work for a local hospital, deal with my boss and QA manager all the time, go in for meetings, and work a set full-time shift just exactly as if I were in-house. No "maverick" status for me. I have to play by the rules. The only difference is that my butt is in the chair at home, as opposed to the office. And I have worked inhouse numerous time, so I know how to do that and had no problem.
what would you do in this case?
I am a Transcriptionist with about 20 years experience who has a job which I do not like anymore, I used to liike the national that I work for but things have changed so much in the last six months that I almost cannot get up and get started and I even work second shift! I am thinking about changing jobs but need to move the first part of December so will need time off and have a bunch of company coming at Christmas so have taken time off. Do you guys think there are any employers out there who would hire someone to start, knowing that they are going to be needing time off in a month? I need to find an employee position because I need health insurance. I am a good worker and very seldom take any time off, this just happens to be a time when I need to.
In that case,
maybe they are afraid he will go to the EEOC - some of that stuff may be illegal age discrimination.
well, in that case, thanks!
Hehe. I've seen that (OP) before and never knew what it meant. But since I was the person who started this post I was too curious not to ask. Thanks for the info--learn something knew everyday! Happy memories to you!!!
looking for a case, are ye?.......nm
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In my case...
it was in our court decree that ex would carry me for 6 months. I then had the option to COBRA on, think maybe I had the option of converting to a private policy also, can't remember for sure, but it was too expensive, so I got my own policy. I don't think there was any way in our case, as his company was a smaller one, that they would have carried me as a "non-family" member on the company insurance. I know that you can work it out in the agreement that the ex pays for the COBRA as part of the settlement, which mine wasn't willing to do. I also thinks it depends on who the insurance is through. I had a family member who was involved in a divorce where it was a federal agency health insurance plan, and they had only 1 month to remain on insurance as per that agency's policies. I would be checking out what the exact options are, as you don't want to be blindsided with a lapse in insurance coverage. It's tough. I was a stay-at-home mom for 15 years and just starting out as an MT not making much so kind of scary. Good luck to you!
Definitely not the case...SM
He wasn't in jail over there for anything. That was a misreport. The only previous charges he has are in the US for child porn.
not sure what is going on in your case
The place I used to work had this function disabled but never told me about any feature that I could go back and see jobs listed there for any given date. I was told by this company they didn't have that information. I now work for KS and work on that same platform- Extext. They do not pay for headers or footers but the session statistics is enabled and I can check them at any time. The other company I worked for I could type and type 30 or more reports and the number was always the same 500, 600, 700 lines, ridiculously low. The Ichart website where you had to check was always lagging behind so was impossible to verify how many lines I was getting credited for each report. I type half that many reports now and the number is around 700. I feel like this is more in the normal range. Not sure what the situation is where you are but if it sounds suspicious why give it any more of your time and energy trying to figure it out? There are too many companies out there looking for MTs these days. Keep looking until you are happy and feel like your line count is fair.
So right ---- That is almost ALWAYS the case!
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In case get job somewhere else, ST is yours.
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Of course, you are right in which case IC needs
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I wish that was the case for me
This week the doctors that I work for saw 221 patients which meant 221 notes. Actually more. One doctor is notorious for waiting days before he dictates and then he dictates 20 notes or more all in one day from previous days, plus some of the ones from that specific day. Arggg. I still have a boat load and I'm off Monday-Wednesday next week.
If that's the case, you are are NOT an IC
As an IC, you set the work hours, not the MTSO. If they are calling you and asking you to leave dinners, conferences, etc., as an IC you say you're not available. If by doing so, they dismiss you, you are an employee and not an IC.
An IC sets their own rate and work hours. The MTSO (or client) either accepts those or not. Period.
I don't think you'd have a case at all.
They'll just find someone else who will do that. They have the right to make agreements on what to pay just the same as you have the right to agree to what you will/won't be paid, too.
Just simply state, "I'm sorry but I bill in this manner" and if it isn't suitable for them, then you need to find different clients.
As unfair as it may seem right now, you have to be careful what you force in business. It is not the emotional energy or financial resources to force anyone to do it your way.
In this case
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Not in my case...sm
I had the new Office 2007 suite on my Vista laptop and hated it, so I installed my Word 2003 with no problems. Not sure what I did right!
maybe that was a different case, as
my letter states that our objections will be heard, if presented to the addresses given no later than February 12, 2009 to each of three parties. The fairness hearing will be March 26, at 3 p.m. Those that choose to attend in person may do so also.
in that case.
It probably depends on where you live, but here in the Midwest I was offered $55,000 for account manager. That basically was running everything but no travel. I figured I would be working 24/7 since work would be sent offshore. Didn't think it was enough money.
Not in this case. SM
He/she states that there are 6 MTs working for him/her that are all producing this amount, not just one MT. In checking back on this one, the MTs actually work 9-hour days, so it is more like 470 lph, but that still seems high, especially keeping that speed going for 9 hours. I can't imagine keeping that pace for that long! Someone did ask how they were counting lines, but no response yet.
In that case...
I think it may be possible depending on how they are paid per line and what type of accounts they are working on. But then again, with 6 people (I think you said) all consistently doing that many lines per day, it seems unlikely... but who knows!
I don't think so, not in every case. sm
Suppose a friend or co-worker who was morbidly obese came in wearing a new, tight white dress with big red polka dots and a huge bow in back, and she asked you, "Do I look good?"
I don't know about you, but I would reply, "You bet you do! That dress is awesome!"
Not a matter of alienation this time, but a matter of being kind instead of cruel.
in that case..
how about I take all the easy stuff and you take all the garbage.
Oh, hey, just in case...
I just re-read your post below and see you mentioned something about the zip file doesn't open? I'm not sure if you meant adding the files in the zip to Express Scribe won't open the .sri files, or if the actual zip itself doesn't open for you.
Anyway, I did download it to check it out, like I said in the other post, and the zip I found does have 4 files in it -- 2 dll's, an ini, and a readme.txt -- so in case you just got a bad link or something, here's where I found the link for the zip.
http://nch.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=7378
Good luck.
I hope that isn't the case; however, if it is SM
then I will move on. I know what I need and whnt.
I'm willing to give them a good try first.
In my case, it was TransTech. I went with them
because they were the only company that I could not find a negative post about on this board. Live and learn.
I rest my case.
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OK, I'm sure that isn't true in any case but look at this: SM
You have a business.You need it to run smoothly. You have two choices:
Hire somebody who isn't capable of making it run smoothly.
Hire somebody who is.
These medical records that we churn out (as IC's anyway) -- that's the product we sell. You can sell a superior product or you can sell an inferior product. Who wants to spend their money on an inferior product? Not me.
Who wants to waste their money (time = money) poring over a newbie's work when they can sit down and type it correctly the first time? Why do people think they are "owed" this? I will never understand it.
i have a mild case of it
This is a strange part of the body to get eczema but I had it on the corner of my eyelids & on the creases of my eyes. They gave me Elidel but it would cause my eyes to sting & water severely which would flush all of the medication out. I ended up putting Vaseline on the affected areas to moisturize w/o irritating. That did the trick there. The other spot I get it is on my ring finger (underneath my wedding rings) so I have another prescription lotion for that (Fluocinonide Cream) - that has been very helpful for me thus far.
I generally have really dry skin in the winter. I take a lot of precautions to prevent my dry skin from getting worse and turning into eczema. I use Dove moisturizing soap for sensitive skin, regular soap tends to be problematic. I’ve tried Oil of Olay in the Shower Body Lotion which is pretty good too, but, my favorite moisturizing method is using baby oil after showering. That works wonders & is much more affordable than the pricing lotions! The trick is to use the oil before towel drying to lock in 10x's the moisture.
Also, try visiting some eczema websites, here is one I found to be useful. 
I rest my case. nm
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I would use Pull Ups in his case, to take away...
the notion that he needs "diapers" since he is trained during the day and you don't want him to feel like he's a baby. My DD used Pull Ups, then those big Pull Ups that are just white and made for bedwetters, and when she grew out of those we used DDAVP spray, which worked the first night.
I have 2 laptops, 1 in case something happens to the other, but
99% of the time I have used the same laptop the entire time. I do work full-time and until recently worked 7 days a week, so it has gotten lots of use. I've also traveled quite a bit with my laptop so it has taken lots of wear and tear.
yeah, well, in her case sm would be
for Site Manager....that's why it is capped. geeez you would think people would have work to do instead of complaining about something so trivial!
It is if someone has no life, which is clearly the case here!
It's actually quite sad, making up fake MBA's and high-rises in Chicago, while posting to an MT website! Delusions of adequacy at its finest!
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