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A4Tech KBS8 Anti-RSI keyboard

Posted By: KyMT on 2006-06-22
In Reply to: What kind of keyboard do you use? - op note gal

I heard rave reviews about this "A shaped" keyboard layout and just ordered one. I never could get used to the split keyboards. Plus it was really cheap! With shipping, I paid a little over $19! It has 19 hot keys and is a multi-media. I'm hoping this is "the one." Anyone else use it?


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A4tech anti-RSI model KB(s)-8
I've tried all the expensive ergonomic keyboards mentioned here in the past and never found one I liked. Back in the day, Keytronics made a great keyboard (some 15 or 20 years ago) but they aren't the same now. I've been using this A4tech anti-RSI KB(S)-8 for a couple of years and it is fantastic. I heard about it on another board and thought, how can it be that great when it's only $20? But it really is the best keyboard I've owned in 20 years. Plus you can program some of the keys to open programs or perform tasks, even keystrokes. The keyboard comes with a wrist rest, which is completely useless to me, but it comes off easily so that's not a problem.
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KBS-8 (not KB-8). Under $20 bucks. Has programmable keys above the function keys that are great to bring up dictionaries and other programs at the push of a button. Very, very responsive, not noisy, great touch. The "KBS" series keys are at an A angle, the "KB" series at the regular keyboard angle. I love the A angle. There's nothing I don't like about this keyboard and believe me, I've spent big money on the best a number of times over the past 20+ years and have been unhappy or not nearly as happy as I am with this one. Not an unhappy moment with this one. Hard not to try for under $20. Can I say more? :)
She came around as an anti-Britney, anti-Christina bad girl a few years back
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and I like her music. At least it's really her music rather than some oversynthesized Britney crap. Christina can sing but she's too slutty. Avril is a nice in-between IMO. Hillary Duff is another person of that genre who actually has talent but doesn't act like a scumbag.
AVG anti-virus...
and also Microsoft's own Anti-Spyware are good. www.microsoft.com (downloads) and Google in AVG and go to their site...
Ice and anti-inflammatories. SM

I had medial and lateral and it hurt like I don't know what.  I had to have the injection, instant relief of pain, but my arm was so weak.  I had to go to PT too.  They told me to do this:  Get a styrofoam cup (small one) and fill it up with water and freeze it.  Then you can just tear off paper and still have portion of cup to hold on to, and do an ice massage right there where it hurts so bad.  Stay on the anti-inflammatories. 


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Not anti-AHDI but pro-US MTs
So, does anyone have any experience starting up groups such as this? Please contact me via email? I work full-time and then some - and don't have oodles of time, but my guess is we are all in this same boat (not having extra time). I would be willing to try to create something for us.

On a tangent - I really struggled over the years about the whole U.S. MTs versus "them." I truly believe we are such a melting pot and feel strong about not excluding anyone. I do not think the us VS them viewpoint is very positive. That being said, I do believe that one of the biggest problems in our economy today is that govt (both sides) let our jobs (of all kinds) go overseas so the corporations could make more money. This left Americans without jobs or having to retrain, etc. I have finally come to conclusion that I am not being exclusionary OR protectionist to want our government AND groups like AAMT to advocate for US first, for those of us who live here, create this economy, and who keep this country going.

In bringing up the idea of having a new group for MTs, I think it is important that we are FOR something (us) and not against something (AHDI, MTSOs, overseas MTs). This is only my opinion. Even though feel angry and disillusioned about what AHDI has allowed to happen, I prefer to find a more positive way to help ourselves. I'm not sure exactly what that is...but eventually it likely will require for us to be proactive and take steps.


Suggestions on how to get the tea party started? I'm willing if others are. Even if just a few of us brainstorming - the point is to set into motion something that gives us hope. Something that will eventually grow and help each other. MT Stars does this in its own way, by providing the avenue to be real and share the good and the not so great about our profession.

Please email me, let me know what you think. Or post here.

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http://www.anti-keyloggers.com/
I certainly wouldn't let them be privy to that much info about me and neither should you.  You can do something about it.
Hmm, so is Easter anti-biblical?
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Easter is a time of springtime festivals. In Christian countries Easter is celebrated as the religious holiday commemorating the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the son of God. But the celebrations of Easter have many customs and legends that are pagan in origin and have nothing to do with Christianity. Scholars, accepting the derivation proposed by the 8th-century English scholar St. Bede, believe the name Easter is thought to come from the Scandinavian "Ostra" and the Teutonic "Ostern" or "Eastre," both Goddesses of mythology signifying spring and fertility whose festival was celebrated on the day of the vernal equinox. Traditions associated with the festival survive in the Easter rabbit, a symbol of fertility, and in colored easter eggs, originally painted with bright colors to represent the sunlight of spring, and used in Easter-egg rolling contests or given as gifts. The Christian celebration of Easter embodies a number of converging traditions with emphasis on the relation of Easter to the Jewish festival of Passover, or Pesach, from which is derived Pasch, another name used by Europeans for Easter. Passover is an important feast in the Jewish calendar which is celebrated for 8 days and commemorates the flight and freedom of the Israelites from slavery in Egypt. The early Christians, many of whom were of Jewish origin, were brought up in the Hebrew tradition and regarded Easter as a new feature of the Passover festival, a commemoration of the advent of the Messiah as foretold by the prophets. (For more information please visit our Passover celebration - Passover on the Net). Easter is observed by the churches of the West on the first Sunday following the full moon that occurs on or following the spring equinox (March 2I). So Easter became a "movable" feast which can occur as early as March 22 or as late as April 25. Christian churches in the East which were closer to the birthplace of the new religion and in which old traditions were strong, observe Easter according to the date of the Passover festival.
Anti-reproductive choice ? that is so very PC
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Antiinflammatory/anti-inflammatories???
Is this correct.  I am getting different opinions and answers.  First BOS says not to a hyphen for both...second BOS says hyphen all but have had editors saying no hyphen for antiinflammatory and a hyphen for the plural.  HELP!
Has anyone tried Cymbalta? It is new anti-depressant

which I read speeds up a person - since I am soooo lethargic in my depression, not to mention the fact that in just under a year I have put on an enormous amount of weight (partly due to smoking cessation - I ate everything in site and then sat while working 70 hours a week, then, too tired to do anything much than the necessary). 


Am age 48.  Am on Paxil now.  Thinking of going back on Prozac as it was a good med for me (I have low grade depression exacerbated by stress).


I wonder what the general concensus is on this new med.   Thank you very much


 


why is AHDI so anti American MT

they seem completely out of touch with MTs, as evidenced in my personal experience and from reading so many posts on this board alone.  I have never seen such misrepresentation of a profession...and they seem to have not even an inkling to bridge the gap; in fact, they seem to go out of their way to make the bridge even wider. 


we need some representation on behalf of all MTs from the 'old school,' as we should be grandfathered in to any kind of mandatory certification, if it comes to that; but we definitely need an advocate on OUR side. 


I see a lot of condescending remarks (and worse) from CMTs on this site against we "regular MTs" and it proves the point that there is a huge injustice going on with that organization and their disrespect of the 'little' guys here who are losing more and more money every year.  I just heard overall American wages have dropped from $7500 a year gained from the 1990s to 2000 lower to date, and dropping, which is over 9000 a year.  utilites are sky-rocketing, food prices, (need I go on?)...


now of ALL times to try to enforce any more financial hardship on MTs (while at the same time lowering costs for overseas MTs) not only shows complete lack of knowledge about the realities we face, but extreme disrespect toward us. 


WE should be priority, not overseas MTs but US.


this is not a game people...this is serious, and no one should be able to mess with anyone else's livelihood in such ways as I have seen in this profession alone over the last decade especially. 


anti-virus programs
AVG free was recommended to me by 3 friends of mine who work in the IT field and by the IT dept at both of companies I work for.

I run it, AdAware and Pest Patrol on a weekly basis.
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
User friendly and it seems to work well. I run it twice a week.

Hope that helps :-)
I use a MSFT Natural keyboard at home and the laptop keyboard on the road. nm

AVG anti-virus is great and free!
www.grisoft.com
Dear anti-Caucasian racist
http://www.americandaily.com/article/9584

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favorite keyboard over the holidays is called "no keyboard"
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If you use a standard keyboard you can buy an old IBM model M keyboard on ebay or clickykeyboards.co

That key printing never wear down because the letters are part of the key itself.  They just don't make them that way anymore because it is too expensive to make.  Some of the mechanical keyboards like Cherry have what they double shot key imprinting and the letters are part of the key itself and don't wear off. That IBM keyboard is very noisy from the type of keyswitch it has so you may not like that.  Logitech and Belkin make some membrane switch keyboards that are supposed to have longer lasting key imprints.  I have a logitech that has the longer lasting key imprints and it is pretty good.  You have to look on the specs to find out if has the longer lasting key printing.


I have experimented so much with keyboards and have done a lot of research.  Way too much info.  


 


I use a laptop with a full-size keyboard (no separate keyboard)
I'm using a lap desk but previously was using a pillow with a book on it under the laptop. No additional keyboard though, I bought one with a full-sized board with regular size keys (an HP) which I LOVE and it took no time at all to get used to it. I also love that when the weather improves, I can take my computer outside and get some fresh air! What a great job... :)
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and found it was better (or found more problems) than their existing programs.  My computer has been a bit weird/very slow the last day or two, ran my SpySweeper (no problems) but I thought I would try this other one.  However I cannot find the post.  Can you either post it again or email me?  Thanks.
I feel differently about the whole anti-Wal-Mart thing...
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wrong. the virus protection and anti-spyware
are only as good as the updates and are NOT 100% all the time. NO program is 100%. Hackers are finding new ways to compromise computers every single day and no program can protect from all of them. The longer you are up and running, the more chance of being invaded. don't fool yourself into thinking antivirus and antispyware are fool proof, because they are not. You have to think smart and protect yourself too, by shutting down when not in use and allowing new updates to take effect. duh.
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Norton sucks!  As soon as I find a decent AV program, it's gonesky!


Thanks!


Certain antidepressants/anti-anxiety meds also attribute to being antagonistic.
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well being more anti-eric or cappy, i would prefer kaysar to come back but not to win.
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Take a couple of muscle relaxers and anti-inflammatories, call
in sick to work, and GO TO BED!!!!  I was in a car accident years ago and still had to show up for work the next day.  I was miserable because it hurt so bad and I had to wear the soft collar.  Honestly, what other profession expects people to work anyways if they're sick or injured?  Cripes, even my old waitressing job let us take days off if we didn't abuse it.  That's not the case with MT.
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nm
Great free anti-virus and antispyware programs...
Oh, also... you do need to make sure that you have a great antivirus and anti-spyware program running at all times on your computer. I personally use AVG free version antivirus and SpyBot Search and Destroy for spyware. Check with the repairman you just used for a reliable site to download these (or what he recommends you use) and instructions on how to run them. They have saved my behind numerous times since my crash. (Didn't have them before.)
Keyboard and mouse. Is there such a thing as a keyboard that has a mouse on the actual keyboard?
nm

LOL, maybe you should stop reading anti-Bush blogs because you're wrong.
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Has anyone used the Smartboard keyboard? Everyone tell what keyboard they have and rate it nm
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Kinesis Keyboard and keyboard tray

Okay, any lefties use this keyboard? How long did it take to get used to? I use my left thumb for the space bar and I notice on a diagram of the keys that I would always be hitting the backspace key.


I'm really interested in getting a better keyboard. I destroyed my left hand and wrist the other week when I fell because I'm becoming a real klutz.


I bought the Soft Flex gloves, but they only help a little bit. My production is down because of it and it's driving me crazy. I can only type an hour without stopping and then have to rest the hand for some time.


I did buy a Microsoft 2000 keyboard but have yet to recieve it. Is this a good one?


Do you use a keyboard tray with it or just set it on the desk? Do you think a kayboard tray would be the least expensive item right now that would help with a straight keyboard?


Any info you can provide to help me in making any decision would be greatfully appreciated.


'Scuse me for being old school, but I've only ever used a straight keyboard.


 


Does anyone know of a keyboard that has the backspace key in the center of the keyboard? NM
nm
Split keyboard mounted on chair arms versus split keyboard on desk

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Also, why the preference over split keyboards that come totally apart versus split keyboards that are permanently connected at the top?


I want to revamp my office and there are so many different options.


Gold touch makes a keyboard without number pad. Also the evoluent keyboard has the number pad on th
It is a very small keyboard and has laptop keys which are very quiet and light to the touch.  Almost no noise.
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Keyboard
I'm in the same boat. My PC Concepts had the integrated touch mouse on the keyboard. PC Concepts no longer makes this in the English version. It was the best ergo KB I have ever used. I bought a Micro Innovations keyboard to replace it after much searching and this keyboard is a PIECE OF GARBAGE!

The touch buttons for the mouse are on either side, rather than below and it's very akward to use the mouse.

Not to mention the fact that their "ergonomic design" is one of a thumbs down with the "gentle curve" going inward rather than out.

Just DO NOT waste your money on a Micro Innovations keyboard.

By the way. I sent an email BEGGING PC-Concepts to bring back the English version. Never heard anything from them.

I did order another keyboard from them tho. Should be here hopefully today. The only difference is that the integrated finger mouse is detached on a little pad. I figure I can glue it to the keyboard and give that a try.

Will let you know how it works out and if I find a secret stash of the old PC-iMMT keyboards anywhere.
Keyboard
Try E-Bay for different ergonomic keyboards.  Quite often I have seen keyboards with the touchpad bottom center.  You can also get touchpads just by themselves, that you can position any place you want.  I got my Goldtouch keyboard off E-Bay and I love it.  I tried using my old flat keyboard again and hated it.
keyboard
I go through at least one if not  two keyboards a year because I wear the letters off.  Though I don't need them it is weird to type without them.    This last one was expensive and so am trying to get 15 months out of it.   Never spilled anything on it, just wear out the keys. 
keyboard
I would also suggest not wahing an ergonic keyboard.  When I got just one little drop of water underneath the keys, it shorted out the keyboard.  All I could get after that was jumbled characters.
911 keyboard wet
I spilled pepsi on kb last night.  I have used ergo kb for over 10 years.  I am trying to type this on regular kb, not doing too good.  My backspace on ergo was affected.  I don't have money to get new keyboard because I recently went to work for company that puts up good posts but steals lines.  How do I fix KB.  Any help appreciated.
Keyboard
You can try seeing if the keys will pop off that are giving you trouble and then use a Q-Tip and alcohol to clean the keys and the area where you spilled the drink.  That may work. 
keyboard

If neither one works then you are not getting a reading or connected via the received.  Have you pushed the "connect" button on both?   Are by accident using rechargable batteries?  Are the batteries good?  I have a rechargable Logitech now and thinking back to my one that wasn't to remember  how it works.  Sometimes you have to move the receiver around a bit so that it can receive the connection as that is how it works.   Are you sure you are plugged into the correct port on the back of your computer.  I am sure you have checked all of this but just going over in my mind what I would check  Again, you have to sometimes push the connect button simultaneously  on the keyboard and the connection base station.   But move the base station around, recheck the batteries and that is all I can say.  I could not type a couple of time but moving my base made it possible.  GO onto Logitech and check out their site for help also. 


Good luck - Patti