3-1/2-year old still not completely potty trained...help
Posted By: Need lots of advice! on 2006-03-23
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My son is 3-1/2-years-old and is not potty trained. Actually most of the time if we put underwear on him he will forget and use the bathroom in them like he does in his pull-ups BUT if he goes without any underwear or pull-ups he will go to the potty. Any clues? Bigger diapers are expensive and I really feel like he is lagging in this area. Thanks!!!!
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My son was three when he was potty trained.
I did similar things.
I don't know if you are already doing this or not, but the best thing I have found to potty train my kids is.....stop buying diapers/pull-ups. If you run out and you don't buy anymore then you really don't have a choice but to be consistent. Having nine pair of underwear on hand is what is recommended.
You can by the the toilet targets online for 5.95. They ARE helpful in making it a game. I always used the whole "Daddy is a big boy, don't you want to be like Daddy?" (works sometimes)
Make it a routine. Go every so often (timer), use the bathroom, flush the toilet, shut the lid, wash your hands, turn the light off, get your reward. Be consistent.
I have four girls and only one boy and my girls were trained by 2 years old with EASE - boys are much more difficult, mine anyway.
I was soooo lucky... my son was potty trained at 2..
He had his 2nd birthday party on Saturday, and on Monday he started potty training. Never bought another diaper. Two weeks later, he was in underwear during the day. But, I took him regularly and monitored his juice intake. Thirty minutes after dinner was the last full drink. He would go potty right before bedtime at 8pm and maybe get a little juice if he asked for it. Since I worked nights, I would wake him up (or just take him sleep) to the bathroom at around 12am or 12:30am. He would wake up dry most mornings, but he wore Pull-Ups until he was about 2-1/2. He is 7 now and has an accident every blue moon, mainly because he falls asleep in bed without going to the bathroom right before getting in bed. Proud of him. Yours will get there too.
potty training
most children achieve this at their own pace, but I have a few ideas that helped with my son. I made a game of it. I floated squares of toilet paper in the toilet and had he do "target practice" and if he hit the target then he would get an M&M. He thought it was cool and it worked. Another thing I tried, a kitchen egg timer. I set it for 1-1/2 hour and whether he had to go or not, we went. This got him used to going and helped him to remember. One very important thing to remember, do not punish him or make the child feel bad about not going in his underwear this will make him feel worse and make it harder. Instead, over praise him when he does it right. Also, my son really wanted the cool underwent (this was 20 years ago) like Heman and ninja turtles instead of the white cotton kind. So I told him he had to earn them by showing me that he was trying and eventually he got the kind of underwear he wanted. Just some thoughts. Just do not make this a big deal, because in reality it is not. He could live to be 80 years old, so just let him take his time. He will get it. Just make it fun and as stress free as possible and you will see resutls.
Potty Training
Hi there! I went through the same thing with my son a few monthes ago. He is the same age and the situation you described was identical to my son's. Okay here is what worked form me. I basically decided no more diapers or pull ups. My son would beg for them when we went to the store...I was firm in saying no. Then I started insisting that he wears underwear at all times. When he soiled them we changed them. Finally I think he realized that I was not going to give in and after about the second day of constantly being pulled away from whatever he was playing with to change his underwear he started to soil them less and use the toilet more. Honestly, I would sometimes wait if his favorite show was coming on or something to change him then...that way he was inconvenienced also. I would tell him during his protest that when he goes in the toilet that we won't have to change his underwear during Blues Clues. It progressively got better and was remedied within about 2 weeks. However, I was probably more busy washing undies than I have ever been...but it was worth it. I hope so much this will help. Good luck!
potty training
new to this board, just had to weigh in on the potty training issues. Lots of great advice here in terms of being patient, supportive, encouraging....want to add my personal experience as mom of 5, including a set of boy/girl twins. My oldest DS, 18, did not train till almost 4. This despite being in COTTON diapers, not pullups. Hey, stuff happens. My oldest DD, 16, trained herself at 2, kept herself clean/dry during the day for more than 3 months. Did such a good job that she got a UTI, and lost control, so frightened by this experience that she went back into diapers for another 9 months! Finally "clicked" at 3+. The twins, well, now you can see the differences between boys and girls, but SHE encouraged him (I have a great pic of the 2 of them sitting on the toilet, one behind the other, like they were riding a horse!) They were consistently clean/dry at 3. Toilet training is a process, I talk about body parts, body functions, things like up, down, clean, dry, wipe, flush....vocabulary and lots of demonstration (what's privacy?). My youngest DD, 4 the end of November, just trained in February. Yes, 4+. YIKES!!! the problem? My teenagers! they were way too interested in "helping" me parent her, and were way too heavy handed. Gave her something to rebel against. So she took control and decided NOT to do her business in the toilet! She was also more than a bit phobic about the whole bathroom business, must be a very big deal if EVERYONE in the house is so so so very interested in what was going on inside her diaper. My attitude was leave it alone, it will happen (so nice to have perspective that experience brings). We had to tone things waaaayyyyyy doooooownnn in order to get her to "chill" about this whole thing. At 3-1/2, I "encouraged" her a bit more...I put her diapers/pull-ups near the bathroom door, along with a big supply of underwear, lots of pretty underwear. Also a trash can. I told her, you change when you are wet, I am out of a job! She had to choose each time, diaper or panties. She consistently chose diapers, and changed, and put the wet diaper in the trash. I still had to change dirty diapers, but figured that even with trained kids, mom is still responsible to make sure that "clean-up" is done satisfactorily. At 3-3/4, I started having DD sit on the toilet in a diaper when she had to do #2, then I handled the clean-up. One day, at 4+, it just "clicked" and she did #2 WITHOUT the diaper.....and the rest is history. Toilet training is a process, she had to learn how to control #1 and #2, in the house, use a toilet OUTside the house (don't you just love using the bathroom at the supermarket, at the mall, here, there, everywhere?) and then night-time training. BUT because this one was so OLD, all these pieces fell into place within 2 weeks!!! Clean/dry both day and night! Lots of patience, matter of fact praise (hey, no one claps/sings, gives stickers, candies, etc when Mom uses the potty!). This too shall pass. In my experience, it seems that the bigger the deal is made out of this, the longer the process takes.
It's headed for the potty if anyone accepts rates like this. By saying NO sm
you make a statement and all those who say NO stand up for their rights of earning a decent wage.
Potty Training tricks that worked for me....
I did this will all of my children. I would go to Wal-Mart or the Dollar Store and buy a lot of little cheap toys and trinkets and put them in a pillowcase. Everytime he or she went to the bathroom they could reach in and pick out a prize. They went every time and after less than a week were potty-trained and when the bag was empty that was it. This last year when I trained another one the lady at the check out asked my why I had so many toys and I told her what I was doing and she said "that is an expensive way to do it", but really $15 for a bunch of toys is the same price as a week of diapers and after that week I don't need the diapers anymore. Anyhow, I know it is bribing, but it works and you can't beat that!
The question was for those with spouses or so's. Take your pitty potty to another party.
I better switch my computer chair for a potty chair. nm
thats exactly why I did this. I trained sm
in a hospital when I first started in 1979 but as soon as I could I went home to work. I tried the hospital "thing again" for about five years but I hated it. I just needed the insurance at the time. I prefer being at home not dealing with the politics and the back-biting. I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. I figure I am secure enough in myself to ignore the comments about how we at home don't have to work, can do what we want, etc. etc. Anyone who has done this knows better anyway!
They still have to be trained how to
QA/grade, give proper feedback, use the QA software, etc., because as I said, it's a completely different job. When having an opening for a QA, why not take applications from internal MTs, if any are interested which is rare because MTing pays better, as well as taking applications from experienced QAs? I don't have a problem with that, only when they hire exclusively from within, forcing experienced QAs to MT again & work their way to QA again. That's just SILLY.
LOL, I trained on the job also in the
early 1980s. As for hospitals, some are taking their transcription back. A MAJOR hospital chain in my town used the Q, but at the end of the contrast 2 years ago, they totally took all their transcription back and hired in-house and at-home MTs (one of my friends works for them).
I'm 36, been doing this 26 years, trained on the job.. nm
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50, trained by VA OJT in 1988.sm
Started out doing autopsy reports, then went to "the typing pool" (acute MT) as we used to be called, came home in 1995, been here since.
Honestly, they need to be trained.
Mine had the same mentality when we first got together. I refused to do it. If he scattered dirty laundry, I left it there. If he didn't put his dishes in the sink, they sat out. I'm not anyone's slave. Also, if they expect the woment to work, they need to share in the housework, child care, and finances.
they seem to be trained to dictate that way.
I worked at a hospital that had a podiatric residency program, and the residents were often required to do the dictation for operations performed by others. Obviously the long format wasn't something the resident made up on his own, it was something they had been trained to do. Other doctors tend to stumble into dictation without much in the way of instruction.
You weren't trained
You weren't trained, which is why you couldn't earn a living doing MT. A lot of people make that mistake, think they just sit down at a computer and type what they hear, then they wonder why they can't make any money. I'm sure if you had gone to school to learn MT, you would have been great at it. After all, you didn't teach yourself to become an RN, right?
trained fingers
Makes me think of what it is like for your fingers to "know" a telephone number but for the life of me I couldn't tell you what it is--I'd have to dial it for you.
Not true....I trained 3 ...sm
from scratch. All were very good, probably better than me! I was just starting out on my own and had reached the point I needed help. Taught them one at a time. Just set them up right next to me and gave them the easiest stuff I had. We both worked at the same time, and I was right there to answer questions and listen when they had trouble.
Trained someone by proofing (sm)
She listened to every report, word for word, and she is now one of the best MT's I know. That would be an excellent way to train.
How long do they have to be trained?
I work for MQ, and I think their VR stinks. It's been going for at least 3 years (though I think longer), and it still slows me down. You literally have to change every he to she or she to he and little things like that through the entire report that really slows me down. The funny thing is, it usually gets the medical terminology correct but everything else wrong.
I was trained for 4 years at a
vocational technical high school and learned transcription for 4 years straight, 4 hours a day at least. I then went on to transcribe when I graduated for a lawyer, and then into the medical field I went. That was 25 years ago. We learned shorthand, accounting, typing, biology, among many, many other things.
Please don't assume that I went to what you call one of these transcription schools because I did not. I don't have to explain to you that I had 17 years of on-site training with physicians. I learned straight from the dictator, so don't go there. AHDI has brainwashed these new people entering this field with their silliness and money grubbing paws.
Okay, so I'm simply stating that to question someone's education for a job that they may make 20 grand a year of their lucky is just downright ignorant and nasty. I make way more than that but only because I've been at it a while and have my own accounts and I'm not bragging at all; I'm just saying.
Whether you want to believe it or not, the ER reports were done through medical records as well as the basic four. I know because I worked there in many different departments and did the transcription. We had a separate entity for radiology and for the cardiology department. Everyone's situation is different and not all worked at the one hospital you did for one lousy year where ever that may be in the US.
We all have our stories, but my main concern is the post regarding questioning this poster's education. Get over yourself! 
I'm 49, trained in 1973, hospital course, been at it since!
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How do you learn when you know you are being trained wrong?
I am so sad. Right now I am a newbie and need to ger my experience in and learn from the bottom, but I think this is not going to happen and I will never be a good MT with any skills to get another job. I am currently employed with a company that has a QA manager that is not very good. She corrects my work with her own made up ways of grammar, drug terminology, etc. It is whatever she says, but when you tell her of her mistakes she won't listen and say just do it the way I say. If I stay here I will never be good enough to go to another company. Also, I will not be good enough to one day get hired by a national. What do I do when I am being trained wrong, but need experience. The people who hired the QA manager are clueless because they are not MTs.Therefore the QA person's word is the law of the land even when I know it is wrong. Help!!!
How do you know you're being trained wrong?
Can you give some specifics? BTW, many MT rules do not follow standard English grammar rules. We either go by the BOS (AAMT Book of Style) or per account specs provided. Each job is different. If you want a paycheck, you learn to adapt to their particular style.
I seriously doubt anybody's going to hire an untrained QA person. A person has to have years of experience as an MT before doing QA. Honestly, if you're that unhappy, quit.
The school that trained you should be the first place
you go for placement assistance. They should be able to tell you what companies seek to hire their graduates. Many schools have employers lined up to hire their graduates because they know those schools turn out job-ready MTs. If your school was one of those, you will have no difficulty finding a job. In any event, your school should be able to tell you what employers have traditionally hired its graduates. Good luck to you.
I was told when I trained on DQS that there would be a decrease
in pay for lines done as ME.
Leash Trained Cats
Can I ask if how you got your cats to go on the leash. Did you start them out when they were kittens. I always thought this would be a safe alternative. My cats both stay inside and are very content and happy. They go in the screened porch in the summer and actually hate going outside. As far as hiding when they're sick, my cat was deathly sick with a UTI and he hid in the basement. Thank God we found him. The vet said if we waited until the next day he would have been dead. I hope you find your cat safe.
The worse they can say is no, but good, trained MTs
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That's how they trained MTs at UCLA back in
nm
Rosemarie is right on for trained VR systems. SM
You are obviously currently working with a new system that is still learning how to do its job. The first typewriters were undoubtedly really a pain to use, too. The poor clerks of those days must have begged just to be allowed to use their pen and ink as they always had.
My current system isn't as learned/advanced as my last one, so lots of corrections. It's about as much fun as doing QA cleaning up after a pack of new and sloppy MTs. But it's a temporary situation. And my current pay rate reflects the time needed for all those corrections. Does yours?
Over time, though, more and more reports do start coming through in good condition until most of them just require some general cleanup here and there.
Editing does shift emphasis from one skill to another.
I can see how the very fastest of typists might not make more editing than typing--they always speeded the dictation up to match them, and how people with little talent for editing might make less, but most people should do just as well editing as typing and many do make more at it.
I disagree. I trained on the job, I'm an excellent MT (sm)
and I honestly don't consider an online school as having the same weight as an actual brick and mortar school. You can't tell me a bachelor's degree from University of Phoenix online is considered equal to a bachelor's degree from San Diego State (or any other actual college).
I know Andrews and M-Tech are touted as the elite schools on another board but you can't tell me that their education is worth the price they charge compared to a local vo-tech school. Ask any physician within 300 miles of me and I guarantee none of them have heard of Andrews or M-Tech.
If you're good at your job, you'll get a job. If you stink, no fancy letters behind your name and/or no diploma from a MT school will allow you to succeed in this career. I consider myself successful and the only way I'd pay that kind of money for college would be to an actual "go to" college where I could see what my tuition was paying for.
None ... trained OTJ and am quite qualified as has been proven (sm)
by me having no problem finding a MT job when I needed one. Now I work for myself so I'm doing just fine.
:)
Trained inhouse 25 years ago. LOL :)
Never been without a great work situation. Job changes to meet new circumstances in my life.
I trained in house 5 years ago
They had such a turnover they would hire anybody off the street that felt like giving it a try. One in-house self-study medical terminology course, and a lot of help and support from my co-workers and I was good to go. Since then I've worked for 2 nationals (and had to unlearn a few bad habits - I'd never even heard of BOS inhouse, LOL). I never spent a cent to begin this profession - I got paid hourly to do it.
I trained at CareerStep, and they partnered with
SLM financial to let me stretch the payments out over 5 years. It seems like it was about $35 a month. I was hired right out of school, and I feel that I good a very good basis for transcription with them.
I was trained on site, but that was 30 years ago.
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Mine are in year-round thank goodness! They've started their new year 2 months ago.
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Union diesil mechanic - good pay, great benefits. We swap year to year on who brings home more sm
money.....but I am an IC and he has all the benefits...health insurance/dental that the company pays for, pension plan, 401k, etc. Factor all of that in and he makes way more than I do.
54, trained OTJ in acute care in 1976 (nm)
I had training. I was trained by seasoned MTs who knew what they were doing. nm
All training does not have to be in the form of formal education. I didn't just decide to do this as a lark. This is my profession. Those ladies took me in hand and trained me well. I just had the basic terminology that I needed and they taught me the correct way of transcribing reports.
I had training. I was trained by seasoned MTs who knew what they were doing.
All training does not have to be in the form of formal education. I didn't just decide to do this as a lark. This is my profession. Those ladies took me in hand and trained me well. I just had the basic terminology that I needed and they taught me the correct way of transcribing reports.
Keystrokes is hiring due to new accounts. I trained on one of them on sm
Thursday as a backup to my main account. I have been there for nine months and have been very happy with the change. There are a lot of posts in the archives; use your own judgement. It has been a good company for me.
If the trained professionals at the school can't handle him,
why do you think you'll be able to work and homeschool him at the same time? I'm not slamming you, but I don't think working and trying to educate your child at the same time is the solution. Maybe try switching teachers or switching schools. Have you had him evaluated by his pediatrician or obtained a referral to someone else? What kind of phone calls are they? Is he acting up? Have you asked him WHY he's doing these things? Kids need to be socialized. They need to learn how to cope with other people. They also need to learn that being part of a society means that you're not always the center of attention. My SIL is going through this with her kid. He's being an absolute beast because he doesn't like the teacher and she has 19 other kids she needs to pay attention to. He wants attention, any attention, so he's acting out. I don't know if your situation is similar to this one or not. I'm just saying that sometimes sticking it out and finding the root of the problem is better than trying to have your attention focused in two different but important places.
Barbara Tice - I trained you 10 years ago
Hey Barb:
I was looking through some of these boards and came across something you applied for in Raleigh in September. I worked with you all those years ago and would like to catch up. Write me.
PA's go to school for 5-6 years, longer than RN and are trained
in medicine. Some PA's specialize in the operating room, orthopedics, family medicine, neurosurgery, etc. They do rounds for physicians in the hospital and can write prescriptions. PAs can make up into the mid 100K range in salary and sometimes more.
MA pretty much is a 6-month to 1 year certificate program to work in a doctors office doing vital signs, blood work and paperwork. Nothing major and not a great salary.
Vet trained me and even now, they like fresh faces that they can train how they want. nm
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I knew mine was trained the day he said, "Yes. You are going to do it anyway, so just yes."
:+
How about middle eastern/indian trained
in Ireland and Scotland and thus have that accent with middle eastern pronounciations - have one that sounds like Shrek!!!
If it is, then half the people I trained didn't have it.
Seriously, we all benefit from another point of view occasionally. Sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees. Doesn't mean we don't have common sense at all.
to cowgirl - Last I knew, last year the job paid $25,000/year no taxes, etc.
The hospital was bombed about a year ago, but not a lot of damage, very minimal damage.
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