11 cpl, 65 line w/spaces. No headers/footers except
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9 cpl, 65 characters per line, spaces, headers, footers included. employee status. nm
Offered a position paying 9 cents per 65 line without spaces with headers and footers.
Is this a good deal?
Want to get paid for headers, footers and spaces?
Just in a silly mood.... 
11-1/2 cpl, 65 ccl, all spaces, headers, footers, etc. NE part of country. nm
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I stand corrected. Sorry, did not mean to say gross. Rather, 65 cpl with spaces, headers, footers.
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Is it customary to count headers/footers in this business when doing line counts? Thanks. nm
depends if includes headers, spaces, one or the other, character line, etc.
nm
headers and footers
I just read in the MPCount info that it does not count headers and footers. Is that a bad sign?
Not OP, but I get paid for headers and footers.
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And most often headers, footers, & copies are not
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most companies don't pay for headers, footers, cc. (nm)
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Usually it's the software not counting headers/footers, or any of the
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headers, footers, word count
I am an newbie IC and just started a new Dr. when I realized that MS word does not count headers and footers with word count. Any way you can include headers/footers in the word count or do you have to count it all separately and then add them together?
I would say that if you are typing headers and footers for free, i.e. not getting paid for them,
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Headers and Footers can carry on to the rest of the pages.
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Not included. Demos and ccs are headers/footers. Not counted. nm
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Oh absolutely! I would get 9 or 10 lines of headers and footers per report on Cottage. sm
So, if you do the math, if I typed 25 reports that day, that makes a total of 250 LINES I no longer get paid for! I truly believe DQS is just a sneaky, smart way that MQ has come up with in order to squeeze line counts and money from under us. Think about it. It is!!! No doubt in my mind, ladies!!
I want to quit to freakin bad this DQS crap! I am making so much more LESS money on DQS it isn't even funny. We should really smarten up about this program.
Also, how about the way you have to look up cc's and addressess and then put it into that stupid ADT field and then you DON'T GET PAID FOR IT!! MAKES ME SICK!
Okay. Done ranting and raving for the day! Let me go look for another job right now.
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could be short reports and getting paid for headers/footers in a 10-hour day.
nm
I tried Slycount and it didnt count the text in headers and footers
I tried Slycount and it didn't count the text in headers and footers after the 1st page. Apparently its a problem with upgraded versions of MS word 2003 and there isn't a fix yet for this problem. If you don't use headers and footers than its a good program. I currently use Spellex AccuCount and its great :). I believe they have a free trial on there website. I Hope this helps :)
Maybe if it is gross lines, lots of headers and footers and normals......sm
Other than that, I really can't imagine it.
I get 10 cpl, spaces, headers, etc. as an employee. Sure ICs will get
offered more because you have to pay your own taxes and there are no benefits. 9 cpl isn't that good for an IC though. It might be for a clinic count because they are more hum-drum accounts where you have the same doctors and can make lots of normals so you can get more lines, but if you are doing acute care it isn't a very good rate. A good rate with mostly good dictators is hard to find these days.
need more info - what kind of transcription, geographic, charge for spaces, headers
etc.
My line including spaces is 65 characters. I've heard that not counting spaces
takes away over 35% of your line count. I believe it too because you have at least 15 or so spaces on each line that you type. Use your first sentence up top as an example; you had 77 char and 21 spaces - in that line that would be a little less than 30% of your characters that you didn't get paid for. I don't think it's worth it and wouldn't want to work without getting credit for my spaces.
It absolutely is a way to cut an MT's line count since most companies don't pay for headers,
footers, and anything in the template. This one of the BIG reasons why I decided to give up working for the nationals. I bit the bullet and went back to work in the office for a while and then finally I found a job with a hospital that allows me to work at home, pays me hourly plus incentive, and doesn't try to cheat me out of my line count.
I just always felt like I was working my rear end off lining the pockets of the MTSO's while they nickeled and dimed me to death!
That's my 0.02 cents worth!
Yes if gross line or 65 character line with spaces....Good Deal!!! nm
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What is the average line/hour for a 65 character line with spaces? NM
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IC, by line, 68-72 character spaces/line
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65 with spaces=line/12 cpl
What is a 55 char gross line compared to a 65-char line including spaces?
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Without spaces, what line is that on? 65 characters?
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65 character line with spaces
TIA
Gross line count without spaces?
I've been corresponding with an MTSO, and she tells me that she pays gross line without spaces. Is there such a thing? I have both Abacus and MPCount, and neither of those programs has an option to count gross lines without spaces. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!
I think that means they pay for spaces, 65-charac line.
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I charge by 65-char line with spaces...sm
The two accounts I've worked on wanted 0.5 inch margins on both sides. One of the accounts wants 10-point Times. The other wants 12-point Times. They want the margins so big because they are trying to save on their paper costs, because the sticky back paper (I think that's what they use) is apparently quite expensive. I send the documents via e-mail for them to print on their own. Anyway, charging for a 65-character line with spaces nets me more than a gross line because of the margins, font, and typeface. Try it with your line counter. I have one built into my Instant Text (which I don't use for invoices) and SylCount. Both of them show that the gross line is quite a bit less when the margins are this big.
Why not charge for spaces? You type 'em like you type a letter or number! 
In Word you take the line count with spaces SM
and divide it by 65. That will give you your line count. So, if my report had 11,700 characters with spaces, that would equal 180 lines. Multiple 180 lines x. 0.11 (your cost per line) and that would equal $19.80 for that particular report.
Good luck!
Chickadee
10 cents/line 65 char. w/spaces,
Small company (about 7 of us, I'm the only part-timer) Acute care, mix of dictators, 1 year part-time experience.
I think it is a 65 character line without spaces but doesnt that mean you have to type a lot more to
get your lines in so you really arent making 9.5 cpl in fact right. I am not sure I understand when you dont get paid for spaces how much you really lose from that. Is it 20% a report or what percentage do you lose. If a report is 100 lines with spaces then what do you really get paid for on those 100 lines without spaces. I think that is what I mean. I am just tring to figure out how much longer you have to work to get your lines in at 1000 lines a day without spaces versus 1000 lines a day with spaces. Seems it would take quite a bit longer.
Both 65 characters per line -- one counts spaces, one doesn't NM
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Do the math. I am figuring on a 65 character line with spaces. SM
Getting credit for headers and footers or not, doesn't make much difference in the math. It's simply not possible. Even if you figure she gets 10 free lines per report for headers and footers, she still would have to type 300 lph for 10 hours a day and her hands would virtually never have to leave the keyboard!
Her pants are on fire!
I was referring to gross 65 character per line with spaces, sm
but again, it was very grueling, but possible. Granted, I had no life besides the keyboard.
Sorry- meant ඉ character line w/spaces!" - NM
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What the heck does getting paid by a 55 black character line?? Does this mean without spaces and doe
You just never know if this is a trick to somehow rip you off of lines. I am just very skeptic of it since I have never heard of anyone using this formula before.
Average line rate including spaces these days for experienced MTs is
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Two companies, both 65 char lines including spaces, one pays 0.10/l and the other 8.5/gross line. n
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They used to not pay for spaces, but a poster here said they are getting spaces paid. Are there 2
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Pay No Spaces, Type No Spaces nm
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without spaces compared to with spaces
10 cpl without spaces equals to how many cpl with spaces?
Spaces versus no spaces....
Can someone tell me how big of a difference it makes if a company pays for spaces versus no spaces. I have only every been paid without spaces. I have been offered a position that pays for spaces, but the cpl is less than I am making now. I am not sure if getting paid for spaces will make up for the pay cut. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Help with fax headers please
Hi....does anyone know how to turn off the fax headers in MS Word? I found out how to do it years ago and then I got a new computer and now I have tried and tried and cannot figure out how to do it!
Just to clarify, I'm talking about when you use the fax wizard function in MS Word to send a fax, and that header comes out at the top of each faxed page with the time and phone number of who sent the fax etc. How do I get that off my outgoing faxes???? PLEASE HELP! 
Headers
I have only been doing this for 11 months, so I do not know what it used to be like. I would have a suggestion regarding the headers. Use templates. If your company does not supply them, then you could make them up yourself, and you could also use an Expander for the headings. The other day I saw a job opening that stated you could do all reports in one document, but so far that has been the only one I have seen. I agree with lousy audio quality. I do not understand how come the MTSOs put up with the lousy quality and submit their MTs to it. I believe there needs to be much more done about the quality of the dictations, whether it is a fast dictator with loud background noise or just poor audio quality. So much more could be achieved by the American MT workforce if the quality of the dictations was better.
Rad Reports/headers, etc
As an IC, i have a great radiology account, and because my company did such a good job, turnaround, accuracy, etc. I was offered a neurophysiology account....something I had never done before.........However, having such a good medical terminology background, I was willing to give it a try (and they were desperate)...(ha ha),,,,Anyways, the reports are done in word,,,,and are not all that difficult as it turns out. The TIME CONSUMING part - was doing the headers - which we retrieve from the text files attached to the wav files,,,,,,,and each identifying piece of information has to be looked up and typed on a single line (15 lines total -before you get to the report),,,,,,,well I hired somone just to do the headers,,,,,,as it turned out.....I met with the company and proposed a 1.00/per header charge for these cases - which turned out to be an excellent idea. The girl that does the headers for me - is guaranteed x amount of money now,,,not just lines and I can sit right down and type the reports.....perhaps you could approach them with an idea like this?
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