you make a very good point
Posted By: * on 2008-12-17
In Reply to: She said her grandmother and mother were talking... - Kendra
I like your perspective. And by the way, your kids will expect you to apologize when you mess up...mine do. No one gets a free pass.
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You know both of you make a good point (sm)
Deciding to control our own reactions because "we will never, ever control what comes at us." Excellent point.
I really did not mean it that way...my son is the same way - I was trying to make that point - not
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I know that. I was trying to make the point
that he probably won't serve the 15 years he got, which he should. He will go up for parole and could get out, but lets hope not.
you make a valid point..sm
however, it is a socio-economic situation you are describing, not one where he was taught anti-american propaganda in his school years and using that as an excuse for doing what he did. Besides, there are MANY MANY other foreign families who have come to America, not just Korean, and have been in the same types of situations as this young man was, what with no real friends, no support system, etc. and THEY didn't go ballistic and kill people because of it. Perhaps his life at home with his own family may have contributed to him being the way he was, but I don't think there is any one set answer for things like these happening. No one really knows what was going on in that kids head or why he did this and unfortunately, I don't think we will ever really know the answer to that, but I still don't think it happened just because he was Korean. There are mass murderers everywhere, of all different nationalities, who commit horrible atrocious acts, but it isn't because of their nationalities or where they came from that caused it...at least that is just my opinion.
The point I was trying to make is that we communicate. I'm really
sorry if that bothers you. 
I would make a good Beth with wig on. Not sure DH would make a good Dog.
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Good Fences make good neighbors
You can get premade cedar fencing that comes in sections. You dig a post hole at the appropriate distance and fill with a bag of quick-crete. Alternatively, you could buy a used fence from a place that hauls away.
You could also get an electric fence, just hook to a battery and run the cord (for retraining purposes) it would not hurt your dogs.
I feel your pain. Roll up your sleeves and pray for some digging weather!
good point...sm
except, in my opinion, the only thing they, organized religeon i.e., churches, are trying to *convert* is money out of our pockets and into theirs. I have felt for a long time that the word of God is free and that a lot of these *churches* feel they need to charge for their *services*, and I feel I can attain spirituality by my own studying and researching, rather than having to *conform* to what someone elses idea of God's word is. again, just my opinion. I don't open the door to these people either.
Good point. Thank you for the
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Good point!
I don't seem to need to be stressed for it to hit me, and unfortunately it always seems to be when I need to be out the door.
I had my gallbladder removed a couple of months ago and it seems even worse since then, alot of diarrhea.
Good point-
history shouldn't have to repeat itself- if we will only learn from it.
Look what happened during WWII to the Japanese, being put in interment camps (and these were American citizens) because of the hysteria at the time.
And during the Holocaust jewish people were desperate to come here for saftey and yet were limited to less than 30,000 a year, and many were turned away because of immigration policies.
What I find truly shocking is that in 1939 a Roper poll found that only 39 percent of Americans felt that Jews should be treated like other people. 53 percent believed that "Jews are different and should be restricted" and 10 percent believed that Jews should be deported (knowing what their fate would be!!). The United State's tight immigration polices were not lifted during the Holocaust and it is estimated that 190,000 to 200,000 Jews could have been saved if it were not for deliberately created obstacles to immigration. But hey we couldn't have them all coming over here and taking over the country, right?
Of course we now know that at the same time our own government was sneaking in Nazi war criminals so we could utilize their research and knowledge.
Now the Muslims are being treated like second-class citizens, and people seem to think it is perfectly legitimate and acceptable (because they all must be terrorists). Sound familiar?
Just be grateful for having the good fortune of being born as American citizens and have a little tolerance for those who are not as fortunate.
Good point- thanks! (nm)
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That's a good point too - thank you (sm)
I think I am going to rethink my earlier decision to just go with the popular advice to wait because that really is playing a game, and the precedent has already been set so if I change it now, he might take that as an ultimatum. I think I will ask, and if he says I am contacting him too much I will back off. If not, and he is happy with things as they are, I will just go with it.
Oh, good point.
I forgot about exercise. I have definitely stepped that up a few notches, which has helped a lot.
Good point!
Replacement activities are definitely helpful-especially for times when you normally smoked. For instance, I would drink water when I was on the phone cause I smoked alot then.
And like Misha said, note the money you are saving and use it to reward yourself for doing great- get massages or whatever you want to pamper yourself.
Good point. (sm)
I've had the same occur with my kids, as far as sometimes not having sufficient time to get to class (on time).
Good point. It is all about the key...
but what does the key truly signify? Especially if one is home all time anyway.
Good point
Heck, I forget to take other meds sometimes and they are not of the same variety and are not the cause of my forgetfulness.
Wow...good point. nm
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wow good point!!
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Good point....sm
I just told my mom today that the next one I make I am not putting the white boa trim on top because I said some people may not want that. I am asking $20 on ebay for this one. The ones without the trim on top will be less, probably $15. This is just the first one. I am going to make many different ones and different colors and see how they do.
Very good point...
... and somehow, even though I'm in my 50s, I hadn't really thought of it that way, because my mind hasn't caught up with my aging carcass (and I hope it never does, actually).
But after my father had passed away, and my mother's best friend died unexpectedly, the friend's husband started hitting on my mom. She said to me, the LAST thing she needed was another old geezer to nurse through his final illness and watch die!
Wannie, very good point! lol
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Yes, very good point on crating!
The poor animals simply become conditioned (brainwashed) basically because they have no other choice. Crates are used because owners are too lazy to take a couple weeks of physically teaching a dog to toilet outside. There are much better and more humane ways than crating.
Good point. My son put me on his plan...sm
last Christmas because I travel a lot by myself. I was considering dropping the land line, but now I don't think I will.
Good point! I could never buy a CD of Adam's
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Good point...I'll pay $10 only. :D :D nm
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Good point, I can see that as possible - I guess (sm)
If I never loan him money and I only pay for what is comfortable to me, then I can't be taken advantage of. If he started to ask for money, I could say no and break it off then, when I knew for sure. I guess if I draw the line now that's a good thing.
Playmates and playgrounds - good point (sm)
Yes! He goes on these three day fishing trips with his buddies, and they drink the whole time - a lot. He told me last night that no one else in that group cares what the other one does - he said "we all try to make sure each other is safe but other than that, we are all grown men, everybody has their secrets and their habits and all of us realize that."
Good. If you had relied on recept. to get your point
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Good point! Maybe he should have to pay child support!
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Good point, I will be contacting a lawyer - sm
to get their input, though I wil probably do the filing solo so I save money, only about $300 if I do it myself. Just need to get info and follow the rules.
a baby man....lol....haha!!! another good point! sm
my self esteem is really pretty good. Just that my heart is sometimes bigger than my head
Okay good news first, the running will stop at some point.
My youngest (3-1/2 now) did the same thing, and my 5-year-old never did either. I was mortified with his behavior and the worst part was my dh thought I was overreacting. Then he took the kids to the store alone one day. He came home and said "Wow Tommy is naughty in the store", well duh!!!! that is why I look like I have been through a battle when I get home from the store everytime. At about 2 1/2 he started listening and got psyced about holding on to the cart with mommy, or even better riding in one of the "car carts" that they have at the supermarket. But anywhere that he needed to sit still for I just ended up finding a babysitter until he was more calm (around 32 months).
My 5-year-old starts school this year too and she is having the same issue. She is not a shy girl by any means,but she is soooo worried about K. I think it is normal and I am hoping that she will be okay once she gets there and is involved in the activities.
Sorry I guess this was not really much help, except to know you are not alone.
You make sure you have a good battery.
A battery up here in Michigan lasts about 3 years, then you're gambling on whether or not it'll start. I carry jumper cables in the trunk just in case. It's not that bad.
LOL, hubby and I had a car that would not start if the temperature was less than 10, even with a new battery. It would start if it was 11 or 12 even, but if it was 10 or less, no way.
I just don't think I'd make a good cougar!
I've had a couple guys in their late 20s ask me out, but it kinda creeps me out- some have been younger than my son. And I'm not a particularly well-preserved 50, either. I don't think I could mentally handle my own insecurities about doing the horizontal mambo with somebody who is used to the younger, harder, nulligravid 20-somethings.
Good answer! If you have to make up a reason....
or lie to him about birth control, your marriage is not very strong...what would you advise your daughter if she asked you the same thing?
make it thick - sounds good
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You make it sound like it's a good thing --
Are you just being sarcastic? I hope so. I love kids, but seriously, this country can't afford to have women having more children than they can afford. Look at the mess we're in now with welfare, not to mention the abuse and neglect these children suffer. I live in a very rural, low income area. I have seen so many children whose parents don't care for them, yet they continue to "pop out" more babies to get more welfare benefits.
If this becomes a new trend, the govt will end up removing the welfare caps in order to support these children. I know it's not the children's fault, but it isn't my fault either. I'm tired of paying for the welfare system as it is.
I am betting the good MTs make a lot more than you do, with paid holidays, too.
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I saw those online, look good. hope they make those in tarts soon!
I might try the oil...I still have a ton of oil from Bath and Body Works when they had a sale that i haven't used yet though!
Gotta make sure I have that address! Sounds GOOD. NM
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Good way to make loads of money, surrogate mothering
Watching a news show this morning and I am seeing a 42-year-old woman who is a surrogate mother. I am really taken aback at seeing this as most 42 year olds would be considered a higher maternal risk because of their age. The surrogate mothering agency says they have seen a dramatic increase in the people wanting to rent their uterus. The agency said the surrogates make between $18,000 and $20,000 something for each baby. Would you be one?
At that rate, I could make in a week what I make
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and yer point? - many MTs are 55+...in the USA....
However, to the Jean Stapleton responder, Jean isn't Jewish *lol*
E-Bay will never help at this point. Way too
soon. Most sellers do not write and let you know its shipped - the old days, perhaps, but not now. E-Bay and Paypal both use 10 days out, I believe, as the earliest you should start to fret at all - its only up to the seller to ship immediately and/or let the buyer know. I've been dealing with E-Bay since its inception, and we are also Power Sellers - unless the seller has a lot of negatives, I would just chill. If they did have negatives, you should not have dealt with them. I am assuming the seller didn't have negatives, and just is not going to be rushed. Its really lost the personal touch of the old days, and you are nothing more than an invisible entity buying something thru the mail. Not the way we do business, but the way most business is done now on E-Bay. Good luck!
And your point would be??
Any drug company whether Merck or another making the drug would, duh, naturally make a profit. I think that is why pharmaceutical companies are in the business or am I missing something here?
I think his point was that
for things like STD's or perhaps a vaccine for boys to keep them from giving girls STD's in the first place, MAYBE keep them from getting prostate cancer. He just wondered if the drug companies are working as hard on these things for young boys or if, once again, they are putting the burden on females.
She's got a point though!
You cannot hold a job down and have a child on one knee. You need both hands to type. Time and time again, these posters get on here and ask how to do it? I don't think Minnie is too way off track here. I mean, you have to set boundaries. You can't expect to coddle a toddler or infant all day and type at the same time. She'll have to make some changes if she's not getting the support from her hubby. Not everyone has family to fall back on for babysitting needs, but the OP sounds like she'd be better off getting a job on-site and taking her children to daycare as they may receive better treatment. Sounds like a lot of hostility in that household, which cannot be very good for the children. Some changes need to be made and quick before it escalates into something worse. It is not fair to the children.
I think you do have a point, but sm
the same goes for married people. When I got married my coworkers wanted to know when we planned to start a "family". So once we started the "family" they wanted to know if we planned on having an only child or having more children? It never ends. Some people are, well. "nosey". They like to know everyone's business. It gives them something to fill the voids in their lives I would guess. I wouldn't worry to much about mixing with this crowd too much. Sometimes I wonder if being single isn't more "hip" now than it was in the past. Have fun and enjoy. Life is too short!
my point exactly--sm
by the way this person keeps pushing this stuff about koreans teaching anti-americanism, it makes you think that this was the reason this kid did this, which is just not the case. I'm glad to know there are others that feel the way I do!
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