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you have a valid point here, one has always to consider side effects of meds..nm

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In Reply to: Is this new behavior or just increased lately? sm - HappyFlaMT

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kids, meds, side effects
I would make sure that he was not having side effects from medication. Seven years is a long time to be on prescriptions and this is the age when most of the boys were taken off medication so they could grow normally through their puberty, as it was stunting growth in some boys that were my son's friends.

Beyond that, 6th grade is the grade when children are picked on the most. If your son has one friend at all, I would try to shore that up.

side effects
Does anyone know it the Hoodia causes any side effects or if it affects blood pressure?  I have both diabetes and hypertension and have to be careful what I take.  Should be extra diligent in what I eat, but if I was I wouldn't be asking about Hoodia, now would I?  Am really interested in learning about this.  Need to lose a LOT of weight for health reasons, as well as clothes shopping. TIA
Side effects of chemo
You are 100% correct in your post but there are a lot of other ailments that are also treated with drugs that can cause cancer and this is something people are advised against up front. I remember 1 kid in high school treated some an ailment and the side effect of his treatment was that he contracted cancer and died from that. I have known for years the connection between breast cancer and hormone replacement; thus when I came of age to perhaps take it I turned it down. My mother, on the other hand, given hormone replacement and contracted cancer from I believe irradiation 30 years earlier for tuberculosis in her lymph glands and she mentioned to me the fact her doctor still had her on replacement hormones. She, herself, knew the connection. I have 2 older aunts and myself who have never taken this treatment because we all know connection. Believe me, if you check on other maladies, you will find the treatment often can cause the side effects such as cancer of which you speak.
Reading about possible side effects,
I can see why you might feel anxious. Do you usually tolerate medications well, or do you tend to react oddly? Not that that is a big help. I know most meds work great for me, but even low doses of Topamax were bad for me in a sneaky way.

Tough choice. Do they know what is causing your occipital neuralgia? Sorry to hear you have that!
Cipro-side effects

I took Cipro last month for diverticulitis. Now I have EXTREME tendon and muscle pain. Anyone out there ever had this reaction?


These are the possible side effects of SSRIs
On this website they did not mention violence and suicidal thoughts.

Side effects of SSRIs include:

Nausea
Sexual dysfunction, including reduced desire or orgasm difficulties
Dry mouth
Headache
Diarrhea
Nervousness
Rash
Agitation
Restlessness
Increased sweating
Weight gain
Drowsiness
Insomnia

Now you think that these SSRIs made your life 'worth living again?' Do you think that your life is only worth living when being on these antidepressants?

But I am happy for you that you feel better.


Any side effects? Can you take this stuff with caffeine? nm
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It is on the TV ad for Singulair as being one of the side effects/warnings. nm
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valid point there.. (sm)
She could go about it one of two ways, depending on what she felt more comfortable with.

1) Allow ex- to violate his restraining order by picking up his stuff from the garage without needing to come in the house, knock on the door, whatever, but still in violation because he's probably not allowed on the property at all. Anyway, this would allow him to come by while she's out and get his stuff WITHOUT him need to get in the house at all.

2) Require that he bring a sheriff along with him to collect his things from the garage. This would keep him in compliance with the restraining order and allow her to keep the garage locked. That would also prevent him from trying to say that his stuff was stolen because of her leaving the garage unlocked.

So yes, you're right. (Don't tell my husband that I just admitted to being wrong... I'd never live it down!) LOL!
Any side effects? Odors? Bad breath? Diarrhea? etc. nm
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Nope, I had no negative side effects whatsoever
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Scary reports on Eladil possible side effects, though. (sm)
From FDA website:

Possible risk of cancer: As noted in the Elidel Cream label and patient Medication Guide, although a link has not been made, rare cases of cancer (for example, skin and lymphoma) have been reported in patients who use Elidel Cream. The manufacturer is conducting studies to examine the risk of cancer. These studies may take many years to complete.


you make a valid point..sm
however, it is a socio-economic situation you are describing, not one where he was taught anti-american propaganda in his school years and using that as an excuse for doing what he did. Besides, there are MANY MANY other foreign families who have come to America, not just Korean, and have been in the same types of situations as this young man was, what with no real friends, no support system, etc. and THEY didn't go ballistic and kill people because of it. Perhaps his life at home with his own family may have contributed to him being the way he was, but I don't think there is any one set answer for things like these happening. No one really knows what was going on in that kids head or why he did this and unfortunately, I don't think we will ever really know the answer to that, but I still don't think it happened just because he was Korean. There are mass murderers everywhere, of all different nationalities, who commit horrible atrocious acts, but it isn't because of their nationalities or where they came from that caused it...at least that is just my opinion.
Drugs.com: Read on this site about more side effects of Xanax
Other side effects have included withdrawal symptoms following either abrupt cessation or fast tapering of alprazolam. Withdrawal symptoms may include agitation, restlessness, anxiety, insomnia, convulsions, tremor, abdominal cramps, blurred vision, vomiting, and sweating.



because I still have a right to bring up a valid point of stupidity
I'm not going to ignore something so BLATANTLY disgusting, that's why I posted below.
I still am allowed to have an opinion and I'm certainly not going to keep my mouth shut when that needs to be said

Tell me the variety of reasons that tomorrow is about other than, politics and... RACE?
Ms. Valenti makes one valid point although not the one she
We should not treat males and females differently when it comes to behaving immorally. Valenti has written about this fairly extensively (e.g., 'He's a Stud, She's a Slut?'). Of course, she's not arguing that both the male and female should be reproached for immorality, but rather than the slut should be treated (celebrated?) as nonjudgmentally as the stud seems to be. In other words, she is arguing for the lowest common denominator, not the highest.

Let the slut celebration begin.
When 2 cars ride side by side on the interstate...sm
and block traffic so nobody can pass. I will get irate over this. I don't know where people's brains are.
Comparison very much valid. Having seen & followed
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The others do have valid points, but...sm

things like this happen to me and I am most annoyed about the lack of consideration.  It bothers me to spend time looking for an item to use only to find out it was lent out.  My brother once let his friend use my lawnmower, without telling me.  I ended up borrowing my neighbor's mower because the lawn was getting overgrown.  It took 3 weeks to get mine back.  I think it is reasonable to be asked first, especially if it is something of sentimental value, something that needs extra careful handling, or something that is actually used frequently like kitchen implements/pots/pans...and lawnmowers, of course. : )


Homeschooling is a valid option. Please
feel free to email me personally if you would like any info on homeschooling. I have homeschooled all of my kids after a horrible experience in public schools with my oldest. I don't want to really discuss it here, though, as it is a topic that invites much flaming, and I have no interest in debating it. It works, and we love it. I just checked stats, and according to the US Dept of Education, in 2003 there were 1.1 million kids homeschooled in America. That number is suspected to easily have doubled by now, and new results are due out. My kids are in high school, a fully nationally accredited course, and are very happy kids. Oldest is college bound and also a very happy MT. Sorry for your struggles, but am glad you are challenging the system. Our kids are priceless and deserve more.
Probably because it was a valid discussion topic below.nm
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Yes, but is that a valid reason for not washing your hands after you
Maybe you were just making a statement and if that's all it was, please excuse the question. Personally, I use the papertowel that I dried with and open the bathroom door when I leave.  I also keep hand sanitizing gel with me at all times. 
There's one side, the other side, and the truth
And boy is it true.

I will say you sound like my aunt, who never speaks up, gets walked all over and then cries about it later.

Her kids/grandkids have no idea why she is always depressed, they think nothing of doing whatever they want without regard for her because she hasn't expressed an interest or opinion on anything and they don't know any better.

Yes, they use her. Yes, they could do things for her, but she never asks anything or says anything, so they don't press it, because it's always been that way. And she's a martyr, so it'd upset her pattern if things actually changed.

And the truth (and maybe reconciliation) lies in the middle somewhere.

Sad.
No ill effects here.

Hormonal effects?
You know, I am way past menopause and I (along with 2 of my aunts in their 80s) have never had any symptoms. One aunt had surgical menopause at 20 something, nothing. I know this is not the same with each women but I never went thru menopause and know the ovaries just withered and died. Last year (age 63) my doctor even was amazed at the moistness on the exam. I have no explanation for that except I just don't feel my age at all, except for those aches and pains that have come with some age.
They should be more worried about the effects
especially in a larger state such as California.  Smoking is an addiction, but I personally feel that there more of a problem with obesity.  People are trying to quit smoking, but are they really trying to quit eating?  JMO.  What someone does on their own property, whether it be an apartment, townhome, etc., is their own business as long as there are no laws broken. 
I have had no ill-effects or complications - sm
from having had 4 epidurals by the way. What was different about it with my second delivery is the doctor must have done a really good job as I could not feel my legs at all, I remember joking with the nurses that they could chop off my leg and I woud not feel it. I could move it just could not feel it. They had to tell me when to push as I was so numb and could not feel the pressure at all. But my daughter came flying out in 7 minutes despite being super numb, no episiotomy either with either kids though I did tear ever so slightly with #1 and needed two stitches with her. That is what I wanted to avoid the most, much more than an epidural.
There is teacher's side of story, kid's side of story
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HIV meds
My best friend has had HIV since 1993 and is very healthy otherwise. He was taking many medications but about 3 years ago the doctors did his blood counts and said the disease was virtually undetectable. They advised him to quit taking the meds and see how it goes. They told him the meds lose efficacy after awhile and so did not want him using them until he actually needed them. After 3 years off meds, his counts are still doing great. I wouldn't worry as long as she is still having regular check ups with the doctor and otherwise maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
BP meds (sm)
When my husband started a medication for BP he started having strong muscle twitching he'd never had before. I think it was something odd, like his pec or abdominal muscles, but I can't remember. The MD had just started him on 3 new meds, one of them being a BP med. That's the one I suspected, and sure enough, muscle twitching was a possible side effect, especially if the patient exerted himself and perspired a lot. I think it could cause potassium depletion and that was the reason for the twitching.
I don't think the depression meds --sm
should be taken in conjunction with pot. Anger and anxiety issues were already present prior to father's death. He may be grieving on some level, as his own psyche will allow, but sounds more like an excuse to me. I have lived with these types in the past. His lack of ambition is probably due to the pot, as well. Thinking of the child, I feel that separation from the source of this frustration would be the best thing for the boy. Counseling rarely works for the spouse, but it would probably benefit you. Go with your gut reaction on this as to what is best. You live with the man, and you know more about him than what you can post here. Trust your instincts. Good luck to you.
Fibro meds

I was diagnosed in January of this year by a rheumatologist after having problems starting last August that began with a rash and my GP did a battery of tests - the rheumatologist started me on 1500 mg of Relafen (which has greatly diminished the tender areas like my hip areas), I also take 150 mg of Zoloft, 600 mg of neurontin, 50 mg of Tramadol every 4 hours as needed (which do me has not really helped the pain 100%, but it does lessen it a good bit) and I take a muscle relaxer at bedtime and sometimes during the time.  These meds do not zap me and I feel more functional with them than before. I also take Halcion if I am unable to fall asleep, however, these days it seems that I am so exhausted that I have no problem sleeping as long as I am not hurting and the muscle relaxer at bedtime seems to help with that. Of course now that my inflammatory markers are at a near normal range I am walking 30 minutes a day and have begun stretching exercises 15 minutes in the morning, 15 minutes at night to help with the muscles.  The rheumatologist has said that all of these will change as the fibro progresses and I age (I'm only 33) but he said if we stay on top of it it should be very tolerable for me from now on - I am thankful to my GP for the referral to this doctor because I have read of so many stories where the GP ignored the patient's complaints only putting them on powerful pain meds and not really getting to the source of the problem or telling them that there is nothing wrong or nothing they can do...I feel now that the pain is being managed, my biggest complaint is being tired at doing the simplest of things - like folding clothes - I feel that I need to rest after I do that - whereas before it was just a normal thing.  My rheumatologist has stressed that sleep/rest is very important so he says when your body tells you to stop and rest - do it - whatever it is you have on your to do list can wait - otherwise you're gonna really feel bad and then nothing on your to do list will get done. I see my rheumatologist every 3 months right now and he says once I am doing okay on the meds and everything seems in check we'll go to every 6 months and then yearly until something goes out of whack and my treatment needs changing - he seems to really be on top of things.


What meds are you taking?  Do you see a doctor on a regular basis?


Needing meds
I think just the opposite - it's the rest of you who could use the meds - or at least not be so judgemental - but I have found that this board - regardless of the subject has quite a few very rude, mean and just downright B***tchy women - sorry if you were offended, but it was my right to BF as long as I chose - and until you work hard enough to get a law passed against it - it's something you must deal with - I think that most of you are jealous of the fact that this is not something that you could do - or wanted to do - maybe you are feeling jealous because my kids are great - we have great relationships and maybe your kids don't even speak to you unless they need money - Most of you would give anything to have a family as close and functional as mine.  However, it is something that you will never know.  God has been very good to us - and thankfully I followed his Word and not yours.
Thanks - have been seeing a psychiatrist for meds

After a couple of years or so on the same meds, they stop being as effective. That's why we're trying Cymbalta.


I am more cyclothymic than bipolar (rapidly cycling, less extreme mood swings). I tend toward the depressive end of the scale most of the time. The Cymbalta did trigger my hypomania - but I'm hoping once my body gets used to it, it will keep me on the higher end of the scale but not as far as hypomania.


I'm going to give it a while longer to see what happens. Many thanks to all who responded!


No advice about meds, but...
if you are consuming caffeine, try cutting back.  It helped me significantly.  Even 1 cup of coffee was aggravating my anxiety.
I was on three meds before finding the right one (sm)
Zoloft made me too sleepy, Effexor didn't do much but gave me strange buzzing sensations when stopping it. Prozac, low dose (10 mg a day) has helped a lot. I take it in the a.m. so it doesn't keep me up at night. But by the end of the day it helps me sleep. (I also take melatonin for sleep). At first you may have some palpitations when your body is getting used to the Prozac, not sure about the other meds with that symptom. I definitely think Prozac is the best.
cholesterol meds sm
I was given Tricor (expensive) and it gives me embarrassing gas, only take it when I'm going to be alone, so it wasn't powerful enough and they added simvastatin which they told me to take before bed because supposedly that's when the cholesterol is best treated by this. I found it kept me awake or ? psychological??? I tried to stick to it because I have a doc's appt. Mon. and was so tired and nauseous from taking both, I actually feel like I have the flu. I think I am going to express the desire to just try diet but know I'll catch He*l, as they seem to prefer you to take all this stuff. I never heard of statin shuffle, can't find it, that's awful! Last time my #s were down to normal and they were so excited, well, now I think it's my turn to start to live again. If you can take it with no side effects, then do it, but I'm sick of feeling sick. Both parents had and died of heart disease, so I'm scared. There has to be a better way!
There are some Club Meds that do not
admit anyone under a certain age. Not all are family friendly, some very adult themed.
noncovered meds
Yes... This has happened more in the last 2 years than it has in my other 40!

I asked for birth control about a year ago and chose "the patch". My insurance company didn't cover that, so I decided to go with Depo Provera. Guess what... they didn't pay for that either.... LOL
I commend you for that...I am on Rx pain meds
and on 4 per day or every 6 hours. After doing this for a couple of years, I feel it is time to stop even if it means having to have surgery down the road. If I take even 1 less pill a day I feel the anxiety you mention among many other very unpleasant symptoms if I take less than that (clammy, achy, etc.) How many pills were you taking? And how did you do it?
Can you name 3 meds that don't come with scary waringing?
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Did you know that vaginal yeast meds
and many of the meds for jock itch, ring worm and athletes' foot are the same exact drug? Now the sprays and/or powders use different ones from some of the creams, but the some of the athlete's creams are just like some of the vaginal yeast creams. It's all for fungal infections, but the makers want you to buy 3 or more tubes please, LOL.
pre root canal meds
Hi, sorry you are feeling bad. I am too, same reason. Here, we have a waiting list for the endodontist and they call you if and when there is a cancellation. I take 2 Advil LiquiGels and 2 Extra-Strength Tylenol every six hours and it works for a while. Do you have antibiotics? Make sure that you check daily for abscess because that is an emergency and must be dealt with. I hope I get mine fixed before my liver falls out from Tylenol. I have had several and now am about to give up because I don't have another $12,000.00 These are all from fillings I had as a child that expanded and made micro-cracks in molars, that then led to this horrible toothache. Last time I had one I had trigeminal neuralgia for 8 months afterward from the injection. Now I know why some people are "suicidal" when they have trigeminal neuralgia. I can't even have cold air on my face or cold beverages or it feels like I am going to die. I am with Hayseed. There has to be a better way to apply fillings and a less expensive way to repair teeth. We are upper middle class and still can't afford all this. Our insurance is of the "very good" variety and only pays a minimal amount for root canals and crowns. Is this discrimination to those of us who have lived to be over 35?
I have ADD and recently went back on to meds
My oldest child does as well.

I had a hard time medicating him until I found the right doc that listened to my son and how he felt and even asked for feedback from teachers and family.

We found a happy medium for him so that he could be himself and not feel drugged and be able to control his impulses as well as stay on task. Now at 21 his strong intelligent young man who no longer needs medication and makes his mommy so very proud of him.

Now on the other hand Mom now is back on medication because it seems with the big M looming on the horizon I need help to be able to stay on task and get my work done.

Don't rule anything out because its not what you want what is important is your child and how he feels. They have some new medicines out there now and Strattera is a good one that worked for my son however it didn't for me I take Adderall.

If I can be of help in any way feel free to contact me.
First off, don't be so quick to get meds. You just sound like a sm
disorganized person who finds it hard to concentrate. It's called stress. I think too many people are running to the doc for a cure all/fix all, when all they really need is peace of mind and a less hectic schedule. It can be done. As far as the disorganization, start one room at a time. One closet. One cupboard, etc. I had to do this. I was told I was "crazy," which is worse than someone saying ADD. I don't think I'm crazy.

Prayer and church is the one thing that helped me tremendously having never been to church growing up. I'm not throwing religion in your face, but something has to be said about these miraculous changes I've been through since "finding God." He's helped me in every single area of my life including the "craziness, disorganization, beating myself up for wandering when I should be working."

I think the meds suppress the actual symptoms. I've had to deal with much deeper issues and insecurities in my life - always chasing things I shouldn't be chasing after.

Anyways, the kids need me so I better run! I just don't like people telling you that you need meds. I've NEVER taken a medication for anything mental-related. Never. And I have never been happier and more accepting of my life - disorganized or not! The freedom it gives you to accept yourself the way you are is priceless!! it really is.
So they will finally deliver your meds
on Monday but the transcription equipment they have for you has to wait until the 2nd? How messed up is that, you would think they would do it all in 1 trip. Geesh.
I was diagnosed with GAD in 2005. I think everybody's different as far as meds go. SM

I am on Effexor XR 150 mg a day and it works wonderfully for me, although when I forget to take my pill, I do get that strange dizzy, buzzy feeling that someone below described.  I also have Klonopin if I need it.  It's not as strong as Xanax, but it takes the edge off and helps with sleep.


I'm curious what was the catalyst for you being diagnosed?  I have always been a "worrier" ever since I can remember.  I bite my nails, but it was always manageable worrying.  Then in the fall of 2005, I had a full blown panic attack.  It was the worst experience of my life and I hope that I never have to go through it again.  I had a gallbladder attack.  I new it was my gallblader.  I knew I wasn't have a heart attack and yet it was like one half of my brain could not convince the other half.  I started feeling lightheaded, dizzy, and like I was in a tunnel.  I was at work and someone told me I should go to the employee health nurse.  I did and my BP was through the roof, my pulse was 130, and the nurse just ripped that BP cuff off my arm and said you need to be seen in ER and made sit in a wheelchair and wheeled me down there!


The irony is the more urgent she acted, the worse my panic got.  Finally, it was established that I was not having a heart attack, but still my body was freaking out.  I could not calm down.  Then I started crying and cried for two weeks straight.  I couldn't sleep at night.  I didn't want to be home alone.  I didn't want to go out in public.  I just basically sat in my house, on my couch for two weeks straight crying and fretting.  My doctor tried me on several different medicines including Lexapro and Zoloft, both did nothing for me but make feel nauseous.  Then he wanted to prescribe an antipsychotic which made me freak out even more.  Being a medical Transcriptionist and knowing about drugs, side effects, etc. was NOT conducive to my anxiety disorder!


Finally, I found a female nurse practitioner who was wonderful.  She new exactly what I was feeling.  Told me her daughter had the same issues and started me on Effexor.  I have been panic attack free going on three years.  I get what I call mini panic attacks where I can feel myself starting to freak out, but I've taught myself relaxation and breath techniques that calm me down.


I'm just jazzed to meet people who have the same "disorder" as me, ya know.  When I've described my anxiety and panic attack to my family and friends, they just look at me like I should be committed and when I was going through it, my family didn't have a clue what to do with me or to say to me.  They were afraid of me, really.  My mom kept saying "you need to snap out of it."  Yeah, ma.  If only it were that easy!


Um, YES and YES?! Haha. Also some of those meds have been found sm
to cause prostate enlargement and I believe prostate cancer.
insurance not paying for meds
Insurance said I had to be on Medicare before they would pay for Celebrex even with rheumatologist asking for exemption.
Frontline: Kids on Meds
The medications that they put the kids on can cause permanent brain damage. Go to PBS.org and watch kids on medications by Frontline.

Good luck.
No, what comes next? Force feeding meds?
Example:

If I am depressed it is MY choice to take antidepressants or not. If I do not feel comfortable with them, no matter what the doctor says, I can stop it.
Antidepressants have a LOT of bad side effect and there are alternatives!