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what??? He walks out on his mom when she tells him to stay in the house, and do not ground him????

Posted By: anon. on 2007-09-11
In Reply to: why ground him? - see message

I am sorry, but she was absolutely right to ground him.  He is hanging around with kids that are way older than him and drinking... You think it is okay to let that go??  I say he needs to learn that he is not the one in charge of this family and thatn Mom is...  Every family has rules for their children and if the rules for that family are broken, it is the responsiblity of the parents to dish out the consequences.  Yes encourage the good behavior and by all means tell them that you love them unconditionally every day (several times), but you are not their buddy, you are their parent


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Could at least go on walks with her.
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WOW - something tells me I wasn't meant to reveal
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FINDLAY, Ohio – A student at a fundamentalist Baptist school that forbids dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing will be suspended if he takes his girlfriend to her public high school prom, his principal said.


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Frost said he thought he had handled the situation properly. Findlay requires students from other schools attending the prom to get a signature from their principal, which Frost did.


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England said Frost's family should not be surprised by the school's position.


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Normally, this would be something I would try to stay out of, but (sm)
I would think if you called CPS and explained things just the way you did here, they might be able to do something to keep the aunt away, and parenting classes for the parents wouldn't hurt either.  I agree with the other poster who said if parents (or you) act first, anything the aunt did at a later time would be considered retaliation.  Handicapped parents many times can be the best parents, but it sounds like they do need some help with setting boundaries.
I think I would stay put if I were you. He knows where the
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Stay away from CC....
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Sallie Mae is high interest, your 401K is better. With 401K you are paying yourself back with interest. It's a no-brainer. No one gets your money but you. Is it possible to borrow again from a 401K if you already have a loan out? Having the money deducted automatically from your paycheck and put back into your 401K is the safest and smartest bet...as long as you have a job.

If you ABSOLUTELY have to have this other loan for $7,000 then the 401K should be your only choice. Can you do without the $7,000 and get back on track before getting deeper into debt - or at least until you pay off the existing credit card?

Why would you want to stay...
with someone who is, as you say, mean? If you are not happy, LEAVE! When you stay you are condoning his behavior. Some women want to be martyrs, others want to live a great life. There are great men out there; wallowing in self-pity does not get you one though.
Well, obviously we don't want to stay
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stay vs go
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You definitely need to stay on top of this...
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I think you should just stay out of it.
It is just humiliating for kids when their parents act up or cause a scene.

The name of the game is fun. Your going into the game wanting your son's team to beat the other team because of YOUR issues with another parent is very immature and selfish.

Trust me, we've watched parents like you've described yourself (and others, in fairness) acting out and it is so unsportsman-like and completely immature.

Embarrassing for everyone.
To Done: STAY !
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At any rate, I tend to be more productive when I'm dressed, so I should probably try to do that every morning, but I'm just not a morning person.  Every year for Christmas, my mom gets me "work clothes" (jammies)!!!


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Remind me to stay
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Did he marry her so he could stay in the U.S.? nm
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