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we can make a quiet knowledge group effort to eliminate him

Posted By: and anyone like him on 2007-10-16
In Reply to: They caught the guy from the sex tape!! He admitted who he was!!! - Lisa

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So I probably need to make even more effort to see my own (sm)
I think my MIL is already getting plenty of attention. Now that I think about it, it's mine who is getting shafted.
we are our own god; we need to eliminate evil
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Regardless of what medicated shampoo you choose, you must also rinse very well to eliminate any buil
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Re the amount of effort
OMG - I had two teenagers who were 19 months apart.  Yes, it was hard and sometimes I just had to turn my head and pretend that was not my child.  The effort and sacrifices are great, especially at prom time and when they start driving.  I am glad I had mine young.  I think it helped me get through it.  I do believe that kids/teenagers are going to get in trouble for something.  That's their job and it is a way of life.  I just tried to put myself in their place when I was that age (I did much worse things actually).  That is also another reason why they could not get by with much.  I had done it all and knew what to expect.  Even so, no matter what my kids ever did and whether I trusted them or not, I always let them know and told them I loved them more than anything all the time (even if they had hurt me).  I gave them my all and taught them to appreciate it.  I put them through college and they put themselves through grad school.  I was not sure the youngest would even graduate high school.  They always knew I loved them with all my heart and I believe most of the time that pays off.  One day all that effort and sacrifice will be worth it.
What are you talking about? Effort? Just because he doesn't
live here with me by no means says I didn't make the effort. When you divorce, the kids either go with the dad, the mom, or in our case, it was both. We are extremely close and he wants to live with us.

I really regret this post now. I certainly did not need people like you responding to a very delicate situation and one that is very close to my heart. You sound really evil.
a question of amount of effort
If I had to do it over again, yes.

But I am having a hard time seeing where the amount of sacrifices I made is paying off in these "teenage years."

I think the payoff for being a good enough parent just might be raising "good enough" kids who become "good enough" parents, so you don't end up raising your grandkids....(and end up with a second chance to get it right).

How do you quiet your mind

My mind just always races and I can't sleep. I am not good at meditating, can't take meds or herbal supplements because of health issues. any suggestions?

house too quiet for me
usually have internet radio on. 
This holiday has gotten way more low-key and quiet for me.
My kids are 20, 18 and 17. The oldest lives at college and has to leave by 11:00 a.m. on Easter morning to make it back to school on Sunday night. We'll go to church on Saturday night to the vigil Mass. We don't buy new outfits, because we don't need them. No egg dyeing, because no one here likes to eat them. But, we will have a big breakfast early on Sunday morning, nibble out of the community candy basket, kiss the oldest one good-bye as he heads back to school, and then I'm going on a hike at the local environmental reserve where I'll sit down on a rock or log somewhere and enjoy the peace, think, and pray for a bit.

Quiet is nice.
Most rewarding parts require most effort.
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Its for the knowledge you get out of it
When I was in horse 4H, I had a pony, not a horse.  They gave us a handbook that taught us all about horses, the names of all the parts of the horse, proper grooming and saddling, etc.  I learned a lot from those meetings (they were at a farm where they had horses to demonstrate on).  They also had trail rides, etc., which my father refused to let me attend because he was a mean guy (his reason was my pony was so short I was likely to be kicked by someone in front of me with a tall horse).  I did learn a lot and enjoy it, but eventually the disasppointment of never getting to go on any horse activities did me in, and I dropped out.  It did enable to be better around horses, and I went on many rides at my aunt's on her horses, and could always saddle them to her satisfaction.  I'd say, let him go and see how much he can learn.
They are just quiet people in the norm.
I think they are not sure how to respond to our slang "small talk" kind of attitude.  They are just quiet people.
for now, keep quiet, observe, take notes.
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this is why you should keep quiet, observe, take notes....
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i can't get this list to print out for nothin...last ditch effort.


























































































































































































































































































































































































































































  Name and (party)1 Term State of
birth 		Born Died Religion2 Age at
inaug. 		Age at
death
1. Washington (F)3 1789–1797   Va. 2/22/1732 12/14/1799 Episcopalian 57 67
2. J. Adams (F) 1797–1801 Mass. 10/30/1735 7/4/1826 Unitarian 61 90
3. Jefferson (DR) 1801–1809 Va. 4/13/1743 7/4/1826 Deist 57 83
4. Madison (DR) 1809–1817 Va. 3/16/1751 6/28/1836 Episcopalian 57 85
5. Monroe (DR) 1817–1825 Va. 4/28/1758 7/4/1831 Episcopalian 58 73
6. J. Q. Adams (DR) 1825–1829 Mass. 7/11/1767 2/23/1848 Unitarian 57 80
7. Jackson (D) 1829–1837 S.C. 3/15/1767 6/8/1845 Presbyterian 61 78
8. Van Buren (D) 1837–1841 N.Y. 12/5/1782 7/24/1862 Reformed Dutch 54 79
9. W. H. Harrison (W)4 1841 Va. 2/9/1773 4/4/1841 Episcopalian 68 68
10. Tyler (W) 1841–1845 Va. 3/29/1790 1/18/1862 Episcopalian 51 71
11. Polk (D) 1845–1849 N.C. 11/2/1795 6/15/1849 Methodist 49 53
12. Taylor (W)4 1849–1850 Va. 11/24/1784 7/9/1850 Episcopalian 64 65
13. Fillmore (W) 1850–1853 N.Y. 1/7/1800 3/8/1874 Unitarian 50 74
14. Pierce (D) 1853–1857 N.H. 11/23/1804 10/8/1869 Episcopalian 48 64
15. Buchanan (D) 1857–1861 Pa. 4/23/1791 6/1/1868 Presbyterian 65 77
16. Lincoln (R)5 1861–1865 Ky. 2/12/1809 4/15/1865 Liberal 52 56
17. A. Johnson (U)6 1865–1869 N.C. 12/29/1808 7/31/1875 (7) 56 66
18. Grant (R) 1869–1877 Ohio 4/27/1822 7/23/1885 Methodist 46 63
19. Hayes (R) 1877–1881 Ohio 10/4/1822 1/17/1893 Methodist 54 70
20. Garfield (R)5 1881 Ohio 11/19/1831 9/19/1881 Disciples of Christ 49 49
21. Arthur (R) 1881–1885 Vt. 10/5/1829 11/18/1886 Episcopalian 50 56
22. Cleveland (D) 1885–1889 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 47 71
23. B. Harrison (R) 1889–1893 Ohio 8/20/1833 3/13/1901 Presbyterian 55 67
24. Cleveland (D)8 1893–1897 N.J. 3/18/1837 6/24/1908 Presbyterian 55 71
25. McKinley (R)5 1897–1901 Ohio 1/29/1843 9/14/1901 Methodist 54 58
26. T. Roosevelt (R) 1901–1909 N.Y. 10/27/1858 1/6/1919 Reformed Dutch 42 60
27. Taft (R) 1909–1913 Ohio 9/15/1857 3/8/1930 Unitarian 51 72
28. Wilson (D) 1913–1921 Va. 12/28/1856 2/3/1924 Presbyterian 56 67
29. Harding (R)4 1921–1923 Ohio 11/2/1865 8/2/1923 Baptist 55 57
30. Coolidge (R) 1923–1929 Vt. 7/4/1872 1/5/1933 Congregationalist 51 60
31. Hoover (R) 1929–1933 Iowa 8/10/1874 10/20/1964 Quaker 54 90
32. F. D. Roosevelt (D)4 1933–1945 N.Y. 1/30/1882 4/12/1945 Episcopalian 51 63
33. Truman (D) 1945–1953 Mo. 5/8/1884 12/26/1972 Baptist 60 88
34. Eisenhower (R) 1953–1961 Tex. 10/14/1890 3/28/1969 Presbyterian 62 78
35. Kennedy (D)5 1961–1963 Mass. 5/29/1917 11/22/1963 Roman Catholic 43 46
36. L. B. Johnson (D) 1963–1969 Tex. 8/27/1908 1/22/1973 Disciples of Christ 55 64
37. Nixon (R)9 1969–1974 Calif. 1/9/1913 4/22/1994 Quaker 56 81
38. Ford (R) 1974–1977 Neb. 7/14/1913 12/26/2006 Episcopalian 61 —
39. Carter (D) 1977–1981 Ga. 10/1/1924 — Southern Baptist 52 —
40. Reagan (R) 1981–1989 Ill. 2/6/1911 6/5/2004 Disciples of Christ 69 93
41. G.H.W. Bush (R) 1989–1993 Mass. 6/12/1924 — Episcopalian 64 —
42. Clinton (D) 1993–2001 Ark. 8/19/1946 — Baptist 46 —
43. G. W. Bush (R) 2001– Conn. 7/6/46 — Methodist 54 —
Anyone with knowledge of strokes? (sm)
My father had a stroke two weeks ago and did not tell anyone - he lives an hour away and I had not seen him - I had talked to him quite a few times on the phone and he kept saying everything was great.  He has a roommate and apparently had told the roommate not to tell me.  So when I saw him in person Friday night, he told me.  It was not really obvious at that time, except when I saw him walk in front of me I noticed one of his legs seemed to drag a little.  I pleaded with him to go home with me and let me take him to a doctor.  But he kept insisting that he was not going to go, that it was two weeks ago and he was okay.  Finally on Monday, my brother (in Florida)  convinced him to let me take him to the doctor, so he said he would let me take him on Tuesday (yesterday) after he got a haircut and got all of his things in order.  Well, Monday evening he got a terrible headache and a pins and needles feeling and his roommate took him to the ER where I met them. By this time he could barely walk and had severe shaking in his left leg and arm.  He had another mild stroke yesterday evening.  He cannot even walk with the aid of a walker.  Here is my question:  Once a person loses function due to stroke can they ever get any of the function back or is it permanent?  Can rehab help them like it helps accident victims? 
It might be public knowledge but
how you obtain is another matter. You cannot get someone in a public office (as stated below) to ramble through a persons records. That my dear is against the law and that is what was said and not only that but if the person committed crimes when a child or teenager, those records are sometimes totally off limits and closed to the public. I also have people in law enforcement but if I needed information, would not have them go through the records to get for me and risk losing their livelihood.
I am speaking with very little knowledge here..

I have only met one (1) pit bull in my life.  It was very pleasant, wanted to be petted, and never hostile.  What I did notice is how muscular it was and I remember thinking that I wouldn't want that dog to snap at me.  All dog breeds are capable of being aggressive (especially if there is a dominance issue), but some breeds are more muscular and less *intidimated* by humans than other breeds.   It seems to me (dog experts, please correct me) it would be easier to pull a Yorkie or a Cocker Spaniel off an attacked person than a pit bull.  I don't know how that applies to bigger breeds like labs or retrievers. 


However, my humble opinion does not make up for the fact that you could face the loss of a loved family pet.  I hope it works out for you.


 

Have some animal knowledge

To those of you speaking about how pits are so evil, I have two things to say...


1.  Any dog is capable of that behavior.  We have two dogs and one is a search and rescue dog and both are very loving... but you should never ever underestimate a dog no matter what.  they are still animals and they still respond according to their instincts in certain situations.  ALL ANIMALS have this capability.


That being said...


2.  So if you outlaw pits, who's next?  What animal species will be evil incarnate after that?


Basically, it all boils down to the owners, the training and the language the animal gives off in certain situations.


For example, my friend recently told me that someone she knows put their golden to sleep because it bit their child.  When they euthanized the dog, a technician made the incidental finding that one of the kids had shoved a pen into the dogs ear.  They came to the realization that this is why the dog had bitten, but no one ever even tried to sit down and figure out what had happened... nope, the dog is just put down.. no questions.  You know, I would have torn that kid in two myself if that had happened to me, so its the kid and not the dog.


Go to a dog language class, take some training and learn some things before condemning an animal to death for "instincts" that supposedly only that breed has.  Its ridiculous and completely ignorant.

You know, it's kinda quiet on this side so would appreciate you staying with whatever
cat fight you might be in on the other pages.
Quiet today, so Im sure nobody will mind a game...
How old is your child/children and when did you decide he wasn't worth the effort? nm
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I made concious effort to stop yelling & pointed that
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I have a relative who has a wealth of knowledge
and was telling her about the posts on this board, namely this thread. She tells me she got a high school graduation and later baby shower invite from her great niece- this person never called, never wrote- my relative said they went in the garbage. She and I are on the same page. BTW, I have gotten late calls on days, like Mothers Day, Thanksgiving- etc. from people and I, like you, think after thought.
Back in the 80s my knowledge helped out some
I had all the symptoms that go with hypothyroidism, the intense itching, the never being able to get warm (with blankets over your head, etc.), went to my doctor and told him I wanted along with my physical exam to have test for thyroid as I thought had this. Went back, he forgot to order and so ordered that day, immediately referred to endo because my labs were off the chart, so to speak and lots of you know thyroid can lead to other problems, even death if left untreated. If I had not pushed this time, guess would be pushing up daisies now. For 2 family members I told others to ask for Megace (these people were skeletons and not eating) and because I knew it was appetite stimulant, I could tell them worth a try. Each gained their appetite and at least did not starve to death so after all these years I have learned a little!
excuse my lack of knowledge, but
I thought medicinal marijuana was legalized in CA some time ago. What a horrible situation, this calls for an uprising, let the power of the people be heard. That is exactly why this stuff is going on - we let it.
Excuse me...a little medical knowledge..sm
The IUD prevents any ovum from implanting, including a blighted or fertilized ovum. Sheesh.
The woman and their babies often died - knowledge is power-
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i agree. I thought the knowledge level was very poor
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My favorite time of night is when kids and hubby are asleep and the house is quiet...

Usmoms need some quiet time too...don't feel bad for feeling that way...I am sure we have all imagined what it would be like not having kids or a husband...but then that thought goes away and someone yells "Mommy" or "Honey"...LOL...

Group singing
I think the group songs have been much better this year than previous years I've watched. Mostly their voices blend well and pitch has been good.

Didn't Chris sing well during his solos in the group songs? I think it was just fierce competition/tough schedule that dis him in. Either that or he just wanted to go home.
The name of the group is Heartland -
I just looked up the words to see if I could find them - I did - I cried again. 
Hope they are a better group than this
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Maybe a cat or dog rescue group needs help. - nm
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Choosing a group

You can pick a charity by clicking on the "Add a Charity" button at the bottom of the page.  On the next page, on the left side, is a box for the not-for-profits groups.  If you click that you will see all the groups listed.


Or you can just type in "Pet Rescue By Judy" and use that one, LOL!


Once you have selected your group you can check how much your are helping by clicking on the "amount raised" button.


Can you imagine how much MTs can help with all the searching we do!  We have the power you guys!  Don't forget to shop through this site also!  You can shop for Target, ebay and many others.  Just click on the shop through GoodSearch and shop as usual.  It really helps!  You can make GoodSearch your home page too and see just how much you can help!


Thanks for all the great responses!  May God bless you with many, many lines, easy reports and no ESLs this week!


Pat


 


 


 


 

Is this the same group against Gays?
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Youth Group Name

My DH is a youth pastor, our Youth Group at the beach was called WAVES, which stood for Worship Active Voices Exclaiming Salvation.  We moved up to the mtns of our state, and he had coined the name for our Youth Group as EXCITE, which stands for Exalting Christ in Today's Environment!!.  We are still looking for a home church since we moved in Jan 2007.  My DH is getting very disheartened...  Good luck to your Youth Group.  Oh, by the way, if you live anywhere close to Myrtle Beach, SC then consider taking your youth next year to the Big God Conference on New Year's eve/day.  It is AWESOME!!

Wonder what a group of men would be saying about women?
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Please don't group everyone under the assumption
that our jobs are unfulfilling. I enjoy my work and am very happy with my accounts.
Oh, and I think anyone can start a group there.

You can start an MTStars group most likely.  It will advertise MTStars as an MT forum and then if people use monikers, they can say who they are, or they can just be a part of the Facebook MTStars group.  I am not sure if MTStars would mind or not, so maybe we should ask the admin, but I would think the would want posters to draw their friends here.  JMO.  I don't want to step on any toes though.  It is networking and I learn a lot from Stars. 


So, Yeah, Thanks for being here MTStars...   

I feel bad for the 1st group. There were
several more of them that would have made the top 12 if they have been included in this group rather than their own.
If it is the group I heard about on the news...

They are an extremely disturbed church group who protest at the funerals of soldiers who died in Iraq, but get this, not against the war, but against gay people.  Nutty right?  They protest and yell that the soldiers are dying because God is punishing America for being too accepting of gay people.  Very sick.  They do this at soldiers' funerals throughout the nation, regardless of if the dead soldier is straight or gay. 


I get a knot in my throat whenever I think about those poor grieving families, but Harley Davidson riders around the country have come together to form a solid line of riders between the families and the protestors.

A recently used solution against this group
was applied by Hells Angels. No joke.

The Hells Angels motorcycle group was nearby where a protest was being held and they showed up! Ran off every single one of the Westboro derelicts.

First time I've ever been in favor of Hells Angels.
Don't group all girls in that same generalization.
It is not fair. My DD as well as my nieces are all really good girls. I am not fooling myself. One niece is getting ready to leave for Liberty College becuase she wanted to attend a christian college. None of the girls dress unappropriately. They are all very good students and all but one are active in youth groups. The one that isn't has a job so that she can help out with her soon to be large college bill. Not all girls are out hunting down guys.
Oh, forgot to say females that are in a group
seem to have their periods synchronized. Just think, if all these girls got theirs at the same time, no pool for a week? Oh, I forgot, get an excuse.
I think you do want to join you're just to shy to say so - group hug? nm
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There is one from the 10 Minute Solutions group.
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I agree totally. This group could not
compare to the first. There is only 1 more group left. I personally liked Allison (the redhead), and Kris (the guy after her), and Adam. He has been 1 of my favorites from the beginning. I also wanted to like Kai and was disappointed with his performance.
Agree with last night's group
I wasn't wowed by anyone last night really. Obviously Lil was good, and I actually did like the one girl who had been brought back... can't remember her name. I didn't think any of the guys were that great. That kid who did That's Why They Call It The Blues... that was embarassing. I find it surprising that they passed up other people for some of them that they have in the 36. Anyone, I thought week 1 was much better and even thought last week was better than this group. As far as the format, I don't like it all that much either. However, I do remember that my Clay, still my favorite then and forever (lol), ended up on the show as a wildcard.
The "Harley Group" people speak of here
Are actually the Patriot Guard Riders

http://www.patriotguard.org/

They are made up of anyone who wants to join. You don't have to ride, you can go on foot or by car.

My husband and I are riders and are really proud of all the fine people in the Patriot Guard.

They usually don't go though, unless the family requests/consents, because they don't want to cause additional grief. Instructions are to not engage troublemakers, and shield the families as much as possible.

Thank God for Patriot Guard riders!
Just got a foster dog from a local rescue group
Very sweet, but has a bad cough that's been going on for over a week. I've been asking the rescue group if I can take him in to the vet, but they keep saying no. I don't have a job, so I don't have the money to do it myself (I do have the time). I'm certain the rescue group is concerned about money, but this seems unfair to me and the dog. For all I know he could have any number of things wrong. They are telling me it's a cold, and to just wait until he's better before he goes in to be neutered.

What's the right thing to do? What should I tell the group's organizer?

Suggestions?

Thanks.
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