things that kill birds and their care

You have to be careful what is in the candles. I don't burn them with birds around.  Self-cleaning ovens will also immediately kill birds, as will a Teflon-coated pan that overheats.  Also be careful with home permanent solutions, room deodorizers, and DO NOT USE FEBREZE (yes, I am shouting because so many people use this and it is a KILLER for birds).  Just be careful with any of these types of things.  Birds are ultra sensative to inhalants.  Better not to use them at all. 

Regarding the eggs, if you remove them she will just lay more before she's had a proper rest and that will deplete her of calcium. While she's sitting on her eggs, her body is rebuiding for the next clutch.  Try to find things that resemble the eggs in size and color, like marbles, beads, etc.  Put them in place of the eggs.  Don't let her see you doing this.  Warm them in your hands first (NOT HOT) and sneak them in one at a time when she's not looking.  She should sit on them and you can pitch the eggs.  But let her sit until SHE abandons them so that she maintains proper calcium.

Also, if the eggs aren't fertile, there is no problem in letting her sit on them.  Take them out and hold them up to a light, like a light bulb or a flashlight, and look into the egg.  If you see red lines or a solid dark mass, you've got babies.  If you see just space and yolk, you've got a dud.  She can sit on duds and get her rest and you won't have to worry about babies.  Not all eggs are duds, though.  You have to look at each one.  Date them lightly in PENCIL and then you can tell when you last looked and keep checking until you're sure they are duds. 

Keep plenty of cuttlebone around for her calcium and sprinkle baby bird handfeeding formula on her food to give her extra supplements for the egg laying whether duds or not.  It's good for her.  Even if you don't want babies, her body needs to be replenished with this stuff to keep her healthy. This is a good treat anytime for a bird. 

I'm sorry to hear about your experience with babies before.  Many times the youngest die in the next because the larger ones get on top of them and they don't get the food. Finches are tricky.  I'm crazy about them but they do need careful watching.  Parrots are SO much easier to raise!!!  Guess you don't want to suggest that to your kids, though LOL!!! 

Feel free to e-mail if you have questions!

• Do you burn candles or other scented stuff while you work? - What scents do you like? nm Like herby stuff here!
  • Only on very bad days. Either burn candle or - computer.
  • I can't burn scented candles in my house because it will - kill my finches. nm
    • things that kill birds and their care - anon
      • Thank you so much for all the great info! - trose
        • birds - anon
    • Oh dear...I have finches sm - trose
    • Have you tried the electric candle warmers? - ER MT
  • I have many scented candles - SA
  • I burn Yankee Candles - ERMT
  • I burn those Yankee tarts in my tart burner - MT4eight
  • Candles - ER MT
  • Used to until my techies told me,,, - sm
  • ...nm up there. NM - NM

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Your Goffin found a perfect home!  That's EXACTLY what they want and need!!

I had a pink Mollucan (like a Goffin but bigger) who was my "baby" and she too had to be held all the time with her head resting on my chest or she'd scream so loud you could hear her houses down the block from me.  Sometimes only the hard of hearing can find them to be acceptable pets because of this but they are SO affectionate!!!  They are said to have the intelligence and demanding nature of a toddler.  Your former Macaw comes in at around a 5- to 7-year-old.  Greys are rated at 9 years old intelligence-wise but I disagree and think Macaws and Greys rate higher based on owning many and seeing what they can do.  I've bred/owned many kinds of birds for many years.  If you want a small parrot who just pretty much sits and thinks and keeps quiet but is company, get an Eclectus.  They are affectionate but quiet and pretty much trouble free, not obsessed with curiosity like a Grey!  Pionus are good too. 

Just watch whatever you use around the house that has an odor or scent.  Birds can die in a matter of minutes before you realize what is happening.  Reptiles react too so be careful with them.  And never use Lysol around a rabbit, especially to clean the cage.   

Feel free to e-mail me if I can ever be of any help.  I'm posting this here in case others watching this thread have birds, use candles and self-cleaning ovens and Teflon, especially this time of the year. 

Worked for a vet, have a 16 year old dog on two aspirin a day.  Works better than the expensive NSAID's.  My dog had seizures also.  Don't know why this has become so much more prominent lately but has.   My dog is part chow/lab mix.  She began with the seizures after being on prednisone -- I say that had something to do with it -- they do not.  Very bad seizures.  Age 6.   Had her on medication - not phenobarb but something else that a dog neurologist said to put her on.  She took it for almost a year - no seizures, slowly tapered her off of it and she did  have little ones now and then -- 2 to 3 a year but over the past 7 years has not had one to my knowledge.  She is 16 and quite healthy, except for being quite deaf, hip dysplasiad and arthritis and takes aspirin for it.  I am sure her end is near but we still walk a mile a day and she chases her friend our cat every now and then.  But her birthday is Valentine's Day -- was actually born on that day and she will be 16.   Go on line and read about seizures.  A neighbor has a chow that just had hsi first one -- age 4 to 5 also.  So it is more common than one would expect.   Good luck.  Actually the visit to the dog neurologist was cheaper than my regular vet and he spent a lot of time with us.  So it was well worth the money.   Patti

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this is NOT normal......been in Florida 30 years and never heard birds in the middle of the night unless one is in the Everglades....and I'm not located there.

Been going on for almost a year.........it's very bizarre to me.

My sister's first dog was an AKC standard American Eskimo she got from a no-kill shelter.  He was supposed to be a show dog, but wasn't *perfect*, so his original owner considered him a worthless mouth to feed and left him at the shelter.  For my sister's family, he was a beautiful and loving pet for many years.  You will pay for the necessary shots and probably to have your pet *fixed* as well as perhaps a bit of a mark-up to support the shelter, but you will have a healthy pet, and you will get the one you see.

My sister's current dog is an AKC Pomeranian she got from a Pomeranian rescue organization.  Again, she got a beautiful and loving dog.  His original owner had decided that he was just too much trouble.  If I remember correctly, the rescue service had pictures of available pets on their Internet website.  Again, there was a good-sized fee to cover having him checked out by a vet and *fixed* with again probably a bit of a mark-up to support the organization.  She had to drive a ways downstate to get him - they would not just ship him.

My sister considered the fees reasonable.  As she says, it's a reminder that this is a living creature whose life has value, not a toy to be played with for awhile and then discarded.  I hope you will be as fortunate as my sister has been in whatever way you find your pet.

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