they picketed at the Auburn University student's death here in AL

• UNC Student Killed, now WBC protestors plan to picket - during Memorial Service
  • Is this the same group against Gays? - Sound against everyone really.
    • Yes, they are basically against everyone but themselves I think (nm) - Carolina MT
  • funeral protester - cindy
    • It really is infuriating to me too! Yes, they also picket soldiers' funerals (sm) - OP
      • they picketed at the Auburn University student's death here in AL - ALMT
        • And you have a right to your beliefs, however (sm) - OP
          • But they think they are and that they are God's chosen people - sm
  • Why in the world would you ever think - Know about this
    • Didnt want to say name because (sm) - nm
    • Everyone does not think like you and I you have to remember that. - nm
    • She might have thought (sm) - MT
      • Thanks - that's exactly what I was thinking (sm) - OP
        • You do not have to name names, you - Know about this

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it's not like they have these kinds of field trips often.......and she is in drama and it's to participate in seeing Broadway plays.  I am sure they are getting a good hotel rate as a group, sharing rooms, etc., and perhaps some meals are included in that alone.

It's expensive in The Big Apple and rather she go with too much than not enough.  Since she is such a good student and this is school related and not really extra-curriculum activity, I think it would be the parent's responsibility to come up with the bulk and have her work part-time or save her holiday $$ upcoming for the trip in the Spring.

She could do extra chores in and around the home now, couldn't she, to earn more $$? 

jes sayin.....and no I don't think you're cheap and I'm certainly not rich.....but this isn't Disney trip, it's Broadway shows and she is in drama.....

I have an 18.5 year old who goes out of state to college.  So what ever partying goes on I don't know about it so I don't worry about it.  I cannot have control over something I don't see. She knows how I feel about underage drinking. 

So my DD wants to to a fraternity party tonight, will be home around 1:30 a.m, has to be at work at 9 a.m.  She is trying to tell us it is not a drinking fraternity.  We were not born yesterday.   The people she would go with are not 21 and she has told us in the past they drink and tell their parents they are at a friends house at a sleep over.  (my daughter tends to reveal too much information that she cannot retract later) I am totally against this knowing up front that there will be drinking and reading too many horror stories. In my state if anyone under 21 is caught drinking they loose their license and so do parents if they supply the house and booze. 

My husband is telling me she is an adult and I feel we can say no since we know all of this upfront.  What would you do in this  situation.  

Thanks 

FINDLAY, Ohio – A student at a fundamentalist Baptist school that forbids dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing will be suspended if he takes his girlfriend to her public high school prom, his principal said.

Despite the warning, 17-year-old Tyler Frost, who has never been to a dance before, said he plans to attend Findlay High School's prom Saturday.

Frost, a senior at Heritage Christian School in northwest Ohio, agreed to the school's rules when he signed a statement of cooperation at the beginning of the year, principal Tim England said.

The teen, who is scheduled to receive his diploma May 24, would be suspended from classes and receive an "incomplete" on remaining assignments, England said. Frost also would not be permitted to attend graduation but would get a diploma once he completes final exams. If Frost is involved with alcohol or sex at the prom, he will be expelled, England said.

Frost's stepfather Stephan Johnson said the school's rules should not apply outside the classroom.

"He deserves to wear that cap and gown," Johnson said.

Frost said he thought he had handled the situation properly. Findlay requires students from other schools attending the prom to get a signature from their principal, which Frost did.

"I expected a short lecture about making the right decisions and not doing something stupid," Frost said. "I thought I would get his signature and that would be the end."

England acknowledged signing the form but warned Frost there would be consequences if he attended the dance. England then took the issue to a school committee made up of church members, who decided to threaten Frost with suspension.

"In life, we constantly make decisions whether we are going to please self or please God. (Frost) chose one path, and the school committee chose the other," England said.

The handbook for the 84-student Christian school says rock music "is part of the counterculture which seeks to implant seeds of rebellion in young people's hearts and minds."

England said Frost's family should not be surprised by the school's position.

"For the parents to claim any injustice regarding this issue is at best forgetful and at worst disingenuous," he said. "It is our hope that the student and his parents will abide by the policies they have already agreed to."

The principal at Findlay High School, whose graduates include Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, said he respects, but does not agree with, Heritage Christian School's view of prom.

"I don't see (dancing and rock music) as immoral acts," Craig Kupferberg said.

as well as the ones that answered this!

Truly a horrible turn of events for you.  Two deaths of loved ones so close together.  Lean on the one who tells us to bring our cares to Him.   It is believed  by many that it would be limiting God to teach that this life is the only time that God can call a person to Himself.  Second resurrection may be the answer.   Also preaching to souls in prison, think about why they would need to be preached to, if these were evil spirits, not human spirits, what good would it do to preach to them?God is a God of love and your family members are in His hands. 

Re suicide, no sane person can take their own life. no matter how "rational" they make it sound.  Those who do kill themselves are not responsible for the sin of murder because they are so sick.  

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- By keeping your car for 15 years, or 225,000 miles of driving, you could save nearly $31,000, according to Consumer Reports magazine. That's compared to the cost of buying an identical model every five years, which is roughly the rate at which most car owners trade in their vehicles.

In its annual national auto survey, the magazine found 6,769 readers who had logged more than 200,000 miles on their cars. Their cars included a 1990 Lexus LS400 with 332,000 miles and a 1994 Ford Ranger pick-up that had gone 488,000 miles.
 
Consumer Reports calls the Honda Civic a "Good bet" to make it to 200,000 miles.

Calculating the costs involved in buying a new Honda Civic EX every five years for 15 years - including depreciation, taxes, fees and insurance - the magazine estimated it would cost $20,500 more than it would have cost to simply maintain one car for the same period.

Consumer Reports' "Good bets" for making 200,000 miles: Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Lexus ES, Lexus LS, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Highlander, Toyota Land Cruiser, Toyota Prius, Toyota RAV4

Consumer Reports' "Bad bets" for making 200,000 miles: BMW 7-series, Infiniti QX56, Jaguar X-type, V8-powered Mercedes-Benz M-class, Mercedes-Benz SL, Nissan Armada, Nissan Titan, Volkswagen Touareg, V6-powered Volvo XC90.

We actually do have the death penalty in PA...it is just not used that often. 

It does turn out to be true in a lot of families. So...we have Ed McMahnon (sp), Farrah, and now Michael. If no one died within the next couple days (I think that is also 3),  it should be okay.

Dang! I haven't felt this bad since Elvis died.

Would you watch someone being executed by lethal injection?  What if he murdered your brother?   Your child?  or anyone else close to you?

I know there is no right or wrong answer to this.  I will have to make this decision myself and it's been in my head lately.  I may not know my decision until the day of.

They should have to pay for pain and suffering because most of us treat our animals like our children.  This is not fair.

I'm sorry to all who have lost their pet to this horrible thing that has happened.  They should have to pay and pay deeply!!! 

What do you think is worse?

I would think being locked in a jail cell for life, with the key thrown away is MUCH worse, than ending their life.

Can you imagine sitting in a cold jail cell, no windows, no tv, no books, no paper and pen, just a room, w/ a toilet, a cot, and bare minimum food to keep you alive.

I think that is worse.