then why point it out at all if it needs an apology? sm
Posted By: anon on 2009-04-13
In Reply to: yes, but I did apologize for being the spelling police. - Happy MT Robin
sounds like you were more offended than any Navy SEAL would be. geez.
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Apology
Opie, I would like to personally apologize for my fellow brother in Christ and I would like to say to Christians: I call on all of you to reread your life manual (Bible) and really pay close attention to the Gospel (Good News) Jesus preached and lived. Our role, as was his, is not to condemn the world (people). If you think your role is to condemn or critize the world I suggest you pray first and find out WWJD. If He wants you to confront someone He will let you know how and when but 9 times out of 10 he will point you to Matt 7: 1 thru 5 or 1 Sam 16:7. Let us live and preach true Christianity which is that of reconciliation with the Creator and not condemnation.
apology
I don't see an apology as a punishment; I see it as an aknowledgement to wrong doing and making her accountable. It works for my kids, and by now they know I expect it. I understand the little gal was tired, but I simply do not see an apology as a punishment.
You don't owe them an apology (sm)
They owe you one. You remind me of myself up until recent years. Don't always be sorry. You are not always wrong. :-) I know you are just trying to make peace and drop it - but you really have nothing to be sorry for.
an apology
I just realized that I sounded really mean and I apologize. As a thin person, maybe you don't realize that those of us who need to lose weight, and struggle with it, maybe took your post as boasting about how tiny you are. If you want to offer support, I'm glad for that. I'll take it, as I need to lose about 50 pounds. Again, I'm sorry for being nasty. It's hard bein' chubby.
I agree. I think an apology is very appropriate.
Having to admit one did wrong and apologize for it is sometimes the "best" way to not forget the action and not do it again.
Cat, not for you to call for apology
I think the original poster can take care of herself. While most of us do not know the terminology in birthing cattle, horses, etc. Hayseed will do ok just on her own.
ha ha---we ALL owe our parents an apology:-)
Unfortunately we never realize that until our OWN kids put us through stuff.
Our son owes us an apology?
He blames us for him quitting school and him working at a job for 6 years that he hated. He is 36-years-old. He refused to go to school and the fines we received for him not going to school cost hundreds of dollars. We made him pay those fines. But the whole point was he hated school, wanted to quit, but we thought if he worked a summer, he would go back. He made the choice not to go back to school even though we begged him to because with education, he would get better jobs, but to no avail. Now he is blaming us for ruining his life. "After all, I spent 6 years at a job I hated and I wasted my life."
He is now in a good job, but it really hurts that he thinks we are the ones that caused his problems. Now he's telling my husband, because there is no work for his occupation, that that's no excuse not to go and get a job somewhere else.
What is wrong with this picture? I am furious with him. I think he owes my husband an apology. What do you think?
I'm venting here because if I say anything to him right now, it will go in one ear and out the other. He is totally right all the time in his mind.
Yes, I do believe he owes you and your husband and apology.. sm
You don't say how old he was when he refused to go to school, but I'm guessing he was high-school aged. I have a son who is now almost 18 and getting him to go to school up until this last fall was a struggle. He is learning disabled and absolutely hated school, couldn't care less if the schoolhouse burned to the ground. Thankfully, I was able to get him into a work program this past fall which will satisfy his graduation requirements and he is very happy with it now. I wish you had had access to some kind of program when your son was in school. However, his choices were his own and he has to accept responsibility for them.
Your apology is accepted, Ella...sm
I've never had a person apologize on here to me. :)
The apology was referencing the title, not the author (nm)
Okay, you opened this. It is (nm) in the subject line...
So I will elaborate...
An Iowan is correct
I also had An Walking On Eggshells Mother is not correct...
Get it yet?
Good...
:)
and yer point? - many MTs are 55+...in the USA....
However, to the Jean Stapleton responder, Jean isn't Jewish *lol*
E-Bay will never help at this point. Way too
soon. Most sellers do not write and let you know its shipped - the old days, perhaps, but not now. E-Bay and Paypal both use 10 days out, I believe, as the earliest you should start to fret at all - its only up to the seller to ship immediately and/or let the buyer know. I've been dealing with E-Bay since its inception, and we are also Power Sellers - unless the seller has a lot of negatives, I would just chill. If they did have negatives, you should not have dealt with them. I am assuming the seller didn't have negatives, and just is not going to be rushed. Its really lost the personal touch of the old days, and you are nothing more than an invisible entity buying something thru the mail. Not the way we do business, but the way most business is done now on E-Bay. Good luck!
And your point would be??
Any drug company whether Merck or another making the drug would, duh, naturally make a profit. I think that is why pharmaceutical companies are in the business or am I missing something here?
I think his point was that
for things like STD's or perhaps a vaccine for boys to keep them from giving girls STD's in the first place, MAYBE keep them from getting prostate cancer. He just wondered if the drug companies are working as hard on these things for young boys or if, once again, they are putting the burden on females.
She's got a point though!
You cannot hold a job down and have a child on one knee. You need both hands to type. Time and time again, these posters get on here and ask how to do it? I don't think Minnie is too way off track here. I mean, you have to set boundaries. You can't expect to coddle a toddler or infant all day and type at the same time. She'll have to make some changes if she's not getting the support from her hubby. Not everyone has family to fall back on for babysitting needs, but the OP sounds like she'd be better off getting a job on-site and taking her children to daycare as they may receive better treatment. Sounds like a lot of hostility in that household, which cannot be very good for the children. Some changes need to be made and quick before it escalates into something worse. It is not fair to the children.
I think you do have a point, but sm
the same goes for married people. When I got married my coworkers wanted to know when we planned to start a "family". So once we started the "family" they wanted to know if we planned on having an only child or having more children? It never ends. Some people are, well. "nosey". They like to know everyone's business. It gives them something to fill the voids in their lives I would guess. I wouldn't worry to much about mixing with this crowd too much. Sometimes I wonder if being single isn't more "hip" now than it was in the past. Have fun and enjoy. Life is too short!
my point exactly--sm
by the way this person keeps pushing this stuff about koreans teaching anti-americanism, it makes you think that this was the reason this kid did this, which is just not the case. I'm glad to know there are others that feel the way I do!
my point exactly! nm
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You have to look at it from their point of
If you loan out money/credit and someone promises to pay, and this happens with several borrowers, you cannot afford to give much in the way of leniency.
They are in the business to make money.
I feel for you. Unfortunately, too many people live check to check or beyond their means and it only takes 1 foul up to do this to them.
Your best bet is to work hard to put yourself into a place where you don't have to worry about it.
My point exactly!
It is the craziest thing- I will never understand it. Do they not realize that they are not only encouraging people to declare bankruptcy but in a sense actually rewarding them for it?!?
But you know, I think it comes back to what I was saying earlier- they just write it all off so they really don't care if the money comes from you or not. They always get their money one way or another. Grrrrrr!!!
What is your point? nm
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yep, my point exactly (OP)
Teaching them in life they will always be rewarded for something...NOT! I think an award should genuinely be earned and I'm sorry if all the kids don't get one...they just need to work harder and earn it...
That's my point (sm)
If it's backwoodsy, so what? This is the gab board. People chat. You don't think asking if somebody's young and calling her dearie is being the grammar police or a little hateful first thing in the morning? She *was* referring to a childhood event, and yeah, children itch their itches sometimes where I'm from.
Odd turns of phrase are still to be found in all parts of the country and on a board like this are going to turn up in "casual conversation." Some of us still have our "work vocabulary" and our "casual vocabulary," and they're not always the same.
Did you have to point it out to her? - LOL
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Cat gets his point across
A cat has needs and he won't be denied. See link.
you have a point....
I was just under the assumption that they didn't have children together and thought the "what ifs" might be getting to her. But if she does have children with him, hopefully he is the kind of father who will include his children in all aspects of his life and not try to hide them from his "new" family. It is just a really tough situation when kids are involved. It is so sad in my own circumstance. But I totally see this side of things now.
YES I HAVE, and that was exactly my point. sm
I KNEW what i was talking about. HE had no clue, SHE had no clue, I was being REALISTIC. She didn't want to accept that maybe just maybe he had gotten himself into something more than he could handle. Did ANYBODY read her original post??????
I have it. Your point?
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You do have a point
I really do not want to work outside of the home now and there just aren't many options where I live anyway but maybe I can find something with a little more responsibility and use other skills I have like leadership, etc. I actually got spark there inside when I thought about it. Thanks!
Point taken....
however, you can be retired and taking care of yourself and still not think of your kids as burdens. They are grown with lives of their own. That is great, but when you get annoyed by their phone call to the point where you consider having the answering machine pick up and maybe even disconnecting the phone.......that is just extreme. She really needs to stand back and count her blessings and enjoy her retirement as well as her kids.
What point...that they don't have to put up
with insults and lies from people like you.
You contracticted yourself so many times...i used to post good about the moderators then later say this is the first and last post I'll ever do...ya ya, troll elsewhere.
Mod, just want to point out it is not me with the
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Exactly my point !
I'm sick of the negativity about this job - if you don't like it,don't come here to p*ss and moan, go somewhere else.
Exactly my point
If you don't like it, you don't have to come here and read it either!
You aren't going to change the way the hundreds of posters are here...you'd be better off changing what you do rather than complaining about others.
Looks like you are just asking for an argument, I won't be providing it any further.
Point
Who pi__ed in your Wheaties this morning? Geez. Someone was just venting, something we all have been doing. There is a difference between moaning and actually fearing the loss of a job and the loss of income we have all experienced with ASR.
my point...
And MY POINT IS that it doesn't matter what the breed of the dog is! Could've happened regardless of the breed of the dog. And just about ANY dog would growl, bark, nip, bite if it was abused.... wouldn't you if you were the dog being abused??? And who leaves an elderly frail person with 3 large dogs??? That's like leaving a toddler with 3 large dogs REGARLESS OF THE BREED! We have always had large dogs, but when my grandfather got elderly we had to watch the dogs around him cuz they would get caught up playing and trip him & he would fall to the ground and hurt himself, so leaving an elderly person by themselves is not a good idea with 3 large dogs, and that's my point also!
Well you do have a point there...
I'd love to be waited on, pampered, spending their money...yeah! But I'd probably be the one on the other end who gets the crappy, nasty family. couldn't handle that...
The point I see here...sm
If her son won the Wii, he is the one who still should receive something for "winning" a prize in the first place. Am I missing something here?
but my point was...
that a locked door does not keep people out of the house. My dog does, though...
To get to this point...sm
flylady.net if you are interested.
took me about 4 months...keeping in mind that I was no longer a clutterbug, thanks to flylady years ago. I have been redoing a house for about 2-1/2 years and had finally completed the master bedroom and bath, making it easier to start getting onto other things (I only have kitchen counter and floor to do, and a bathroom facelift).
Mostly I have found that flylady is a mindset and if you can't get into the mindset, you are not ready just yet. It is a dedication to all the other things in your life and working very hard at minimizing housework to have more time for the far more important things in your life. You have to be ready to tackle your problem areas 15 minutes at a time, lessen the clutter in your life and let go of old habits. Clutter breeds depression and depression breeds more clutter. It is about opening up your heart and mind to abundance, because it is the feelings of lack and shortage that keep you tied to the junk you don't use, don't love and don't need. It will improve your entire life, not just your house.
I think the point is . . . .
If you're using your credit card to purchase stuff because you don't have the cash, then you can't really afford it. You're planning on paying it off/down when this new deal comes in May and you'll be making more income. What if that doesn't happen? Where will you be then?
A poster above said what she learned from her father was the best. If you can't pay cash, then you can't afford it. I learned that lesson the HARD way.
Why not? That's the point, Who was
named as beneficiaries on the insurance policy? In every policy there must be a beneficiary named. I guess, most probably his wife and his 2 children, NOT the sister!
As the state could not find them, very mysterious!!! and the sister did not help, she (username: Interesting!), the sister, took all the money!
Strange, strange!!!
Well you see the whole point was that
I didn't expect it, so I was trying to let people know, because $50 might be a significant part of, say, a grocery budget, for those of us who are struggling.
It all adds up. I'm not exaggerating about the college tuition. Poof - the equivalent of that is now being deducted.
Here's another point to consider
I have found that my 16yo son will stay in much better contact with me with texting. He is more apt to tell me when and where he is going if he moves from one place to another. I figure this saves face for him in front of his friends--no one has to know he is talking to his "mommy" (he can also discretely let me know who he is with when I ask). Our rule is if you always answer your phone/text messages when you are out and about, you earn much more freedom.
Point taken
I love and use slang as much as the next guy, but don't try to pass it off as the Queen's English. But you are correct; I allowed boredom to get the better of me and continued it well past the point where I should have gone into ignore mode.
myself at one point (sm)
When my stepson was 9, he decided that he could not longer live with his mother, who was extremely emotionally abusive to him, which is a long heartbreaking story on it's own, but he insisted he lived with us. Well, we lived in a 1-bedroom apartment and both worked. When he came home from school, he came into the apartment, locked the door and waited for me to come home at about 4:30, so he were there for an hour by himself. I would have quit my job to be home, but we just could not afford to do that. One day SS came knocking before I came home from work and he would not let them in. He was under strict instructions not to open the door. He called me and I came right home. They came in and looked around and asked a few questions. Their only conclusion was that we needed a bigger place, which we were already in the process of looking for. We were not planning on having him live with us and they understood the situation. They were very kind and respectful to us and were impressed that he would not let them in. We moved a few weeks later. The sad part was his mother called not because she was fearing for his safety, but because she wanted to make our lives miserable. She really could not have cared less about him. Now he is 20, a senior in college and doing extremely well. He would not give a hill of beans for his "mother." Your kids will understand and you might be able to make some headway in a custody case with all of his nonsense. When we went to court for custody of him, all of her harrassment and calling the cops and SS and such really looked bad for her. She lost hands down. We did not even have an attorney. It was really cut and dry. When they come, be honest and encourage your children to be honest as well. It sounds like you have nothing to worry about. I was also just absolutely mortified when they came though, but it all worked out.
what exactly is your point? nm
Exactly my point.
I liked both Dom Deluise and Bea Arthur too. Barely a mention. As a matter of fact, didn't even know either of them had died until now.
Was MJ ever convicted of child molestation, or was that first case settled out of court? Regardless, he was accused of it at least twice. Whether or not he did it, he was a grown man and a celebrity no less and should have known better. He could very well be a sex offender and he's getting a statement from the White House! (rolling eyes). Sure, he had a rough childhood. So did I. I'm an *adult* now and not out having affairs or little boys in my bed.
Regardless, he was a very trouble person. Nobody alters their appearance that much for no reason. I think he would have benefitted from a lot of psychotherapy.
good point...sm
except, in my opinion, the only thing they, organized religeon i.e., churches, are trying to *convert* is money out of our pockets and into theirs. I have felt for a long time that the word of God is free and that a lot of these *churches* feel they need to charge for their *services*, and I feel I can attain spirituality by my own studying and researching, rather than having to *conform* to what someone elses idea of God's word is. again, just my opinion. I don't open the door to these people either.
Good point. Thank you for the
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