that's what I was thinking (rabies), but I
Posted By: MT4eight on 2008-03-10
In Reply to: That is unusual - LinK
looked online and it says that possums rarely get rabies because of their really low body temp. I'm still steering clear of him though. He has some scary looking teeth. He's cute to watch from the safety of my office though.
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I'm the "mom" of 3 wonderful, rescue puds from the Humane Society. They are spayed/nutered and have had only 1 rabies shot in their lives (ages 8,4 & 3); the one for me to take them home. I live in Texas and if I remember correctly, rabies are required. However, all of my puds are indoor cats and only my 8 y/o has had another rabies shot that was required when we had to board her. Since they are strictly indoor cats, my vet doesn't feel that yearly shots are necessary. The only thing I do is take them in for a yearly ck up. They've all been very healthy and happy (thank God).
I truly hope your baby's tests all come back negative. I've been there with other cats and know what you are going through. I also believe that my Higher Power takes care of all of us, including our pets.
Anyone have a cat with reaction to rabies shot?
Has anyone here had an experience with their cat having a reaction to their rabies shot booster? My 4-year-old Persian just had a rabies booster 2 weeks ago at a new vet's office. (Just moved - have only been going there for about a year). My guess is they use a different brand or manufacturer of vaccine than my old one did.)
Yesterday morning, exactly 2 weeks after getting her shot and seeming just fine, I found a large, 2x2 cm lump on my cat's right lower hindquarter. Thinking it was a hair mat, I put on my glasses for a better look. It wasn't a mat; instead, it was a subcutaneous lump that felt similar to a lipoma, but was firmer, not as soft and squishy as a lipoma. She had also vomited 4 times during the night -- food, not hairballs. She's never done that before.
I took her to the vet right away, and they aspirated some fluid out of the lump, looked at it in a microscope, and said she had a lot of white cells. (She also had a fever). They sent off the slides to the lab to see if this might be vaccine-associated sarcoma - something I never even knew existed until yesterday! While waiting for the lab results, she's on an antibiotic, as well as an anti-inflammatory for 5 days.
So, I got on the internet and did some research about these vaccine-related sarcomas, and would advise any cat-owner to do the same thing. The information I found was NOT encouraging! Did you know that the occurrence of these sarcomas has been increasing since the early 90's, when they started making adjuvant (more inflammatory) rabies vaccines? The sarcomas are VERY aggressive in cats. (I had a former cat die in only 7 months after a mastectomy for breast ca. with adenosarcoma.) They think some cats may be predisposed to developing sarcomas at the site of injection for both rabies and the feline leukemia / FIP vaccines. The rescue where I adopted my cat advises its adopters not to get the leukemia/FIP vaccine, so I don't get that one. But this is the first I've heard about the rabies shot being dangerous, as well.
My reading brought to light the fact that vets almost always give the rabies shot as distally as possible in the RIGHT rear quarter. The reason? If a sarcoma forms, they're very invasive, and they found that tumors from shots given between the shoulder blades or in the scruff of the neck tended to spread into the spine and lungs. (Oh, GREAT....) Even more thrilling to learn is the reason they give the shot in the lower rear quarter: It's so that if the cat gets a sarcoma, the best chance they have of prolonging the cat's life is to amputate the entire leg.
Each state differs, but in California, rabies shots for cats are recommended, but NOT mandatory. Had I known this, and about the danger of the adjuvant rabies vaccines, I would have skipped the vaccine altogether. My vet recommended that if she gets a rabies shot in the future, (which I don't intend to do with either of my strictly indoor-only cats), there is a SAFER brand - Merial "PureVax". It's a non-adjuvant vaccine that is much safer. (My guess is that it's probably more expensive, too.) It's also apparently not easy to find. My vet office doesn't use it (WHY, I don't know, since they're recommending it...), so that's just one more reason for me to say "NO" to rabies vaccines in the future. However, If I were getting a new kitten, I would make sure it got the Merial PureVax instead of the regular kind, provided it's approved for kittens. It's disadvantage is that it's given yearly, rather than q.3 years.
Anyway, regardless of whether my cat's lab tests come back positive or negative for malignancy, after what I've learned from researching feline rabies shots, I thought I'd pass the information on to everyone who's interested, so they can talk to their own vets about it and at least make a more-informed decision about vaccinations than I did! 
Important addendum to rabies warning below:
(Aaaaggghhh!!! Somebody just SHOOT me!!!) 
I guess I'm going to be changing veterinarians soon.... here's an update to the post below:
The oral pain/anti-inflammatory my cat was prescribed (which thank God I didn't give her without researching it!), is "Metacam" (meloxicam) oral suspension. The article below is from the rescue where I got my cat. Thank goodness I checked their website just now!
I was wrong about her vomiting BEFORE we went to the vet. It was last night, which was about 8-10 hours AFTER being given one dose of Metacam p.o. (This was an off-label treatment, as the oral suspension is for DOGS.) Since it was given in the vet's office directly into her mouth, and she weighs less than 10 lbs., she most likely had an OVERDOSE, which is why she vomited up her dinner in every room of the house lase night. The drug had been prescribed to help bring down the inflammation in the area of her lesion and fluid aspiration. But among other things, this drug can cause kidney failure in cats. "No, thanks!" I lost a cat to renal failure a few years back, and it took me 3 years to pay off the over $5,000 in vet bills I'd put on my MasterCard! And the cat still had to be put down, anyway.
So, here I've been spending the morning researching veterinary literature, checking my pet-insurance coverage limits, and biting my nails about the possible damage I might have done to my cat simply by trying to keep her up-to-date on her shots. I'm just about to change my pet-care-policy to "no more shots and no more meds"!
Here's the article:
Metacam Risks in Cats
What is Metacam?
Metacam ® is the veterinary brand name for meloxicam,,a
non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID)used to reduce
pain and inflammation.This article deals with two versions:
Metacam Solution for Injection (for cats)and Metacam Oral
Suspension (for dogs).
Metacam ’s FDA Approval Status
Metacam Solution for Injection was approved for one-time
use only in cats on 28 Nov 2004 (NADA 141-219).Metacam
Oral Suspension was approved for dogs only on 15 Apr 2003
(NADA 141-213).As of July 2006,the approval status of both
medications has not changed.
There is a misconception that using medications in a non-
FDA-approved fashion is illegal.This is simply not so;the FDA
regulates drug manufacturers,not the practice of veterinary
medicine.Veterinarians may prescribe any drugs they have
reason to believe are safe and effective,even if the particular
use is not FDA approved (this practice is known as "off-label "
or "extralabel " use)).However,you and your cat do not have
any FDA assurance that the drug is safe and effective.
Common uses of Metacam in Cats
Metacam is commonly used in cats for two cases:
(a)Metacam Solution for Injection (or simply "Metacam
Injection ")is used to provide post-operative relief of pain and
inflammation for up to 24 hours following procedures such as
dentistry,spaying and neutering.Vets often prescribe a few
daily follow-up doses of Metacam Oral for continued pain
relief,although this is not an FDA approved use.
(b)Metacam Oral Suspension (or simply "Metacam Oral ")is
often prescribed to relieve arthritis pain in cats.Although this
is also not an FDA approved use,it is known to be effective,
albeit with some risk.
Low Safety Margin =Higher Risks
According to the manufacturer ’s product sheet 1 ,Metacam has
a narrow margin of safety (also known as therapeutic index )
in cats,meaning that there is very little difference between a
safe,effective dose and a toxic dose.Repeated doses of
Metacam Oral in cats have been known to result in death,as
documented in the clinical tests 3 submitted to the FDA.
The narrow safety margin in cats is reflected in the FDA ’s
Adverse Drug Experience (ADE)reports 4 for Metacam Oral,
which summarize drug side effects reported by veterinarians.
Of 842 reports for dogs,19 cases of kidney failure and no
deaths were reported.However in 320 cats,105 cases of
kidney failure,48 deaths and 35 cases resulting in euthanasia
have been reported.This clearly indicates that Metacam poses
a much greater risk in cats than in dogs.
The use of Metacam poses not only a significant health risk to
the cat,but also exposes the cat owner to significant financial
risk.The treatment of kidney failure requires days of hospitalization,
and the outcome may be death.Whether the cat survives or
not,the hospital bill can easily exceed $1,000.
Because of Metacam ’s narrow safety margin,veterinarians
will order blood tests to check your cat ’s kidney and liver
functions and general state of health.Don ’t try to save money
by refusing these tests;it ’s essential to know if your cat is at
greater risk.Should side effects occur,your vet is likely to
order another round of tests to check the drug ’s impact on
your cat.Be prepared for these costs.
Problems with Smaller Cats
The post-surgical use of Metacam Oral in smaller cats (under
10 lbs.)poses a unique problem.The product sheet for Metacam
Oral 2 warns against administering the drug directly into the
mouth for dogs weighing less than 10 lbs,as this may cause
an accidental overdose.Instead,it must be mixed with food to
ensure slower absorption.The Metacam Injection used during
surgery may cause loss of appetite,and the cat won ’t eat his
oral dose.So you ’re likely to try to administer the dose directly
into the mouth,but if your cat weighs less than 10 lbs.(and
many do),this only increases the risk of overdose.
Questions for your Vet
Given the clearly documented risks of Metacam Oral in cats,it
is wise to ask your veterinarian the following questions if he or
she recommends its use:
Are my cat ’s blood tests (especially liver &kidney functions)OK?
What side effects should I look out for?
Under what conditions should I discontinue the medication?
Who do I call on evenings or weekends if my cat has a reaction?
Is there a 24-hour emergency animal hospital in the area?
May I have copies of the Metacam product sheets?
Persians are a more delicate breed,are you sure this is safe?
My cat weighs less than 10 pounds,are you sure this is safe?
What other pain medications are FDA-approved in cats?
What pain medications were you using prior to Metacam Oral ’s
release in 2003?
Are these medications safer and/or cheaper than Metacam?
Conclusion
There are clearly documented risks associated with the off-
label use of Metacam Oral in cats which may lead to kidney
failure and death.These risks should be carefully discussed
with your veterinarian before proceeding with any Metacam
treatment.For post-operative pain relief,explore other alternatives
with your veterinarian before agreeing to the use of Metacam.
Acronyms
ADE Adverse Drug Experience
FDA The United States Food and Drug Administration
NADA New Animal Drug Application
References
[1 ] Product sheet:Metacam Solution for Injection for Cats
Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica,Inc.(revised October 2004)
http://www.bi-vetmedica.com/product_sites/METACAMINCats/documents/Metacam_Cat_RP.pdf
[2 ] Product sheet:Metacam Oral Suspension for Dogs
Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica,Inc.(revised January 2005)
http://www.bi-vetmedica.com/product_sites/METACAMORAL/documents/Metacam_Oral_Susp_rp.pdf
[3 ] Freedom of Information Summary for Supplemental NADA 141-219
(Metacam 5 mg/mL Solution for Injection for cats),28 October 2004
FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine
See "Tolerance Study in Cats on Meloxicam ",pp.24-26
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/FOI/141-219s102804.pdf
[4 ] Adverse Drug Experiences (ADE)Report,9 June 2006
FDA Center for Veterinary Medicine
See "meloxicam oral ",pp.48-64
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/Documents/ade_web_rpts_MN.pdf
Metacam ® is a registered trademark of Boehringer Ingelheim Vetmedica,,Inc.
That is exactly what I was thinking, HUH?! lol NM
nm
Thank you for thinking of others!!
   
that's exactly what i was thinking
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That is what I was thinking. At first, she might
have had some point to what she was saying...but not after all the other posts I had started reading.
Well, I'm thinking one (sm)
of the differences (and I don't think that makes it right), is that this insurance company obviously is not putting out a huge amount of money for this claim. I highly doubt that you have the same insurance company that they have, so that could be another reason why it was so easy for them. If you ask my opinion, even though I'm related to them, I think it's a little over the top. I certainly didn't mean to cause any resentment or anger here by posting this to begin with. I really didn't believe that it would turn out this way. I'm still surprised.
What are they THINKING?
Just watched Idol and am shaking my head in disbelief.
You said everything I was thinking
.
Thank you for saying what I was thinking... sm
But didn't want to say. Esp. the post below about putting band-aids on the nipple and the child sucked beside the band-aids and put hickies on mom's breast? Oh, man. I'm sure it was all very innocent, but that made me nauseous.
I thought maybe it was just me, since I don't have kids, but breast-feeding that long seems a little sick to me. (I know, I know, they do it in other countries, it's perfectly natural, we're the ones with the hang-up, etc.)
Thinking??? They are not thinking.
I already have one brother in the pen and my other brother has NEVER been in trouble, he is nearing 50 years old and is facing several years in the pen for being plain brainless!!! Sorry, I am just so frustrated, I don't understand this and now I am left alone to assist our aging parents.
Thinking they can get away with it - ego. nm
nm
I'm thinking...(sm)
They were Brooke's eggs...so Taylor's carrying Brooke and Nick's child...and Bridgette had everything to do with it, probably not Brooke!
Wow...aint we glad real life isn't a soap!!! But sure do love indulging in fantasy for 30 minutes a day!
Do you also watch Y&R? I don't think Nick's really dead...he'll come back, Phyllis will probably be in jail, and he and Sharon will raise Summer...just a thought! 
That's what I was thinking too
for my own bedroom, which we are in the process of painting now. I want to add some color, and think that some kind of border would break the contrast between the wall and the ceiling, be it wallpaper, sponge technique, stenciling, or other. I think maybe having the ceiling the same color as the walls would be too much for me, unless a very light color.
This is the one I was thinking of! Thanks - nm
:)
LOL. Thinking the same
thing here. If anyone makes that doing this, they have to be totally working their behinds off!
Thinking about a new pet . . .
Does anyone have a ferret? Are they difficult to care for? Do you have to buy a pair or could I start out with just one in a large area where more could be added over time. What is the best type of cage that is chew proof? There are so many out there. 
i'd like to know too, been thinking about that myself lately. sm
we have recently had to have 3 different appraisals on our home. i had to pay $350, $350 and $375 for each one. the last one the lady was here at max 15 minutes, it was her second appraisal for the day and she was gone before noon and i know she was heading to do another when she left my house. sounds like descent money to me. i am sure gas expenses are quite hefty with the traveling, but still seems like much better profit than MT. she took pictures and measured a few things and that was about all other than preparing the paperwork, researching other properties in area, etc.
I am thinking... sm
One year I planted tomato plants, 12 of them. They all grew fine, grew flowers, then all of a sudden I could look out the window and actually SEE them such them down, whole plants. schlooop. gotta feed the babies. We put some screening underground and next season was better. Sorry about you punkins. It could be rabbits, but the whole plant thing going underground was definitely gophers for me.
I'm so sorry! I was thinking
about your post the other day. My dog had the same type of weird behavior. He was wandering around aimlessly and fell asleep in a closet - not like him at all. We didn't really think too much of it at the time. Then a few weeks later he was walking along and fell over into the pool. He hates the pool and is terrified of water. My mother (who can't swim) jumped in after him, but he was already swimming. He never even went completely under the water, he recovered that fast. We brought him to the vet immediately. He had no hearing loss or vision loss. The vet said that he probably had a TIA. It has happend a couple more times since then. Other then the little episodes, which only last a few minutes, he is a perfectly normal dog and plays and eats. The vet didn't really do anything for him. He just told us that if we noticed any big changes, to bring the dog in immediately. I would definitely take her to the vet and see what the vet has to say. Give your baby lots of love!!!
Well, please at least tell me what you are thinking (sm)
I know you are not a doctor and won't consider it to be medical advice but have you heard of something like this before??
Thinking of you! - sm
My PS was calling us all today asking for us to work extra because of all the MTs in S. CA who are down. At least someone at the company cares!
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone down there.
Was actually thinking about you
when I saw it on the news - actually had film on Cape Cod. Glad you are okay. I also know several other regulars are from Maine.
Thanks. That's what I was thinking.
.
EXACTLY what I was thinking!
I have come to realize that my so-called "friend" is a very jealous person, and it makes me insane because I don't understand it! This is a small thing, but for example, at the beginning of this past summer, my husband and I were talking with her about GPS systems and how it would be nice to have one for our car for when we travel. She told us that she would love to get one, too, but they were just so expensive. My husband and I ended up getting a great deal on a really nice GPS system online in July, so we bought it, and when I told her about it, her exact response was, "I really have no interest in those things." I couldn't believe it! She had seemed like she wanted one ever more than we did!
Also, shortly before Thanksgiving, we were talking about laptop computers and how we both wanted new ones (we both had older ones), and she kept telling me that she was going to get one after the holidays, but I had no immediate plans to buy one. Well, for Christmas, my husband bought me a beautiful brand new HP laptop, which was completely unexpected! I was so excited, so I told her the good news and her response was, "Laptops are nothing but pains. I hate the things." Why does she do this???? I hate jealous people! It's not even like I was trying to make her jealous, but was just so excited that I wanted to share the exciting news with someone! Shouldn't a friend be happy for you and not turn completely jealous when something good happens for you?
I guess she is not really a true friend. After all of these times of blowing us off by not coming over when she has said she was going to, I am just sick of it, and I'm not going to even talk to her anymore.
Thanks - that's what I was thinking too (sm)
That at least I could try to show him a respectful way to behave, give him an example. Interesting that I am also a Scout leader :-)
I was thinking that too!!
I need to find a way to keep my arms out from under my pillow while I sleep too!!
Thanks - that's exactly what I was thinking (sm)
Thanks for understanding where I was coming from.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Don't cook, don't clean, don't wash...I guess if I didn't ever have to do anything, I may remember moving a pair of underwear to a specific different drawer 2 days before I was going to wear them. As I sit right now, when I open a drawer I'm lucky if I remember why I came in the room let alone what I opened the drawer for. Pay the lady and maybe she can buy her own soap and undies.
That's the one I was thinking of!
Rules of Engagement. That show is SO funny. Just crackes me up every time. I like the other shows on the Monday night lineup too but they have had a LOT iof repeats so I stopped recording them. Except my hubs knows if he sees Christine or Rules of Engagement he will record them for me.
Still thinking -
BBQ pork and chicken are good too. Something you can grill a few days ahead and then leave in the crock pot to finish the day you want it. I find pork roasts are relatively inexpensive and really go far without much shrinking.
I also make a mexican-type dish - my take on something Rachel Ray did. Boil (or use leftover) chicken breasts, shred, add 1 package of salsa mix (I have also used taco seasoning but like the salsa better), add some cilantro to this. I use small corn tortillas that I quickly fry in a little oil just to make them pliable. Add the chicken to the tortillas, roll up like a cigar, line them all in a 13x9 and top with Chihuhua cheese (not sure on the spelling but any mexican melting cheese will do). STick them under the broiler to melt the cheese. I serve with salsa, a salad and/or rice. Kids love them too!
Just know there are those that will be thinking
xx
And if it's the one I'm thinking of,
it is also DELICIOUS! 
This is exactly what I was thinking...sm
If someone does not show up or respond, especially when they are expected to, I would want to make sure they were okay.
Perhaps she is thinking of him...
I do not so much subscribe to putting down animals who seem happy enough. I really struggle with putting down an animal at all, unless death is eminent and unavoidable, i.e., a horse with a ruptured intestine. At the very least, keep in mind that it is ultimately her decision. I can't imagine trying to convince someone to kill her pet. My mother-in-law did this three years ago at Christmas time when my dog had hurt her back. She is old. She is still old--three years later--and her back is much better now.
It might mean that HE is thinking about you, how you
are managing in this difficult times. What terrible fact tht he does not want tio have ve anything to do with his child.
Would he know how to get into touch with you?
I am thinking no on this one also
name calling?
thanks for the info, LOL. I was thinking it was some
kind of food giveaway from the government, ya know, like the free cheese thing. LOL
I was thinking more along the lines
poo maybe?
I'm curious to see what this really does mean.. LOL. First thing that came to my warped mind.
No, what they heck are they thinking?
x
LOL! I guess I was thinking they could
be born in the same minute, but not at the same moment (LOL!)
I was thinking the same thing.
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I was thinking the SAME thing
about DumDum and Night at the Museum. I really liked the movie. Saw it even though it had so-so to bad reviews.
But very funny DumDum.
I was just thinking of posting for those in CA
wondering if any of you are close. My brother is supposed to be taking a team to a robotic car competition in Colton and from what I can tell that is a little too close.
I'm so glad she's thinking of us.
I just hang on her every word and read everything ever printed about her....not. I didn't even know she was going to jail until I read it here. Too bad it's not longer than 45 days.
Thinking exactly the same that the baby
might be getting, according to the older child, more attention than he is at the present time. I could understand him doing something like this for attention getting. Hope this works out ok for you.
Parents, what are you thinking about?
I have read today more about the little girl who was kidnapped in Portugal. I have no idea what her parents were thinking about norr for that reason, what a lot of parents are thinking about now. You cannot leave your children to go dine, even for 5 minutes, no matter how closeby you think you are. You cannot let your children run around in the stores unattended while you shop or leave them in the toy section to keep them occupied. You cannot leave them in the bathtub while you go to answer the phone or the door. It only takes a second for a child to drown. Don’t leave them in the vehicle while you run in the store or pump your gas leaving your vehicle running or the keys inside. There are all kinds of stories about the children kidnapped here just for those reasons. I do not care what section of the country you live in, don’t leave your doors open, be it daytime or night. You think you are safe. It only takes a few minutes for someone to swoop down and grab a child. The parents of this child in Portugal are 100% to blame for their child being kidnapped. They could have taken their children with them that evening or the resort where they were staying offered babysitting and yet the family opted not to have this. I hope for the best in her recovery. It was supposed to have been a family vacation so take the kids with you, be it a late evening dinner or the like. What a shame!
Women, what are you thinking?
You are staying with a guy because he is too big?? You are staying because of the kids?? This is not the dark ages. You are probably not slaves (although I did read the other day about some foreign folks being held slaves in another state somewhere). You have no idea how fast life goes by on you. I so wish I had done differently than to stay with a guy who did not treat me right- but having said that, years ago when I called the police to get away from my husband- and this was years ago- told they could not intervene being as we were married. Now, dear, times have changed. You can leave, can get assistance and can be in charge of your own lives. I wish a thousand times or more I had met this present husband and lead such a delicious life like now. You will wake up 1 day, believe me when i tell you this, and wonder what you have done with your life, where did it go, just like a flash you are in your 50s or 60s- don’t still be miserable when you reach the age where I am now. Life can be really good and beautiful. I have been down the same streets.
I was kind of thinking
that too, but don't know how to make it!
You really are not thinking straight
beause it is your daughter but first of all, what is the age of consent in your state? You have no more rights to knowing about his jail as you do in asking him to take test for sexually transmitted diseases nor in seeing his medical records. You are going overboard against him- what about your daugher- what kind of punishment have you dealt out to her? You are blaming only him- not her- I know when I had sex early it was me and him. You have told her you are disappointed. Well, you want to wring his neck- punishing her also?? You are seeing her as this small child when actually she is past that now. You talked - that did no good - you thought lines were open with both of you - that was not true- think about how you are going in a rage against this guy. He may be the worst there is but it was not rape, now was it?
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