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sleep, or lack thereof

Posted By: truffle on 2008-09-04
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I read somewhere this past week that Sarah Palin only requires 3 to 4 hours of sleep a night.  I remember in the past reading the same about Jay Leno.  For a long time now I have thought about how much more I could accomplish if I could just get by on less sleep.  I seem to function well with 7 hours and usually that is what I get. 


Do you think that the ability to sleep 3 to 4 hours a night and actually function normally and enjoy life is a gift that a person is born with, or do you think it is something that can be learned?  Do you think a person could get 1/2 hour less sleep per night every week, gradually getting used to less and less sleep, and still function well?  Am I the only one who thinks about these things? 


Please share your thoughts on this.  Do you know anybody who sleeps so few hours, and what is their quality of life?




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I have lack of god as you put it, and
I hate to tell you, but you can be a good person and not believe in god. I'm not a criminal because I choose not to be not because I believe in god.

I'm so sick of hearing this kind of thing! I do not judge other people because they believe in god even though it's my opinion that they are wrong. However, all of the preachy people that throw god in my and everyone else's face, claim to be so righteous, etc., they judge me and everyone else. In fact, some of the most uncaring, insensitive, hateful people I have met have been "religious." Believing in god definitely didn't make them a good person.

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Please tell me if I'm overreacting.  I'm moving 60 miles away from where I'm now living next weekend for a new job at a big hospital in my hometown.  I'm excited but nervous also.  My daughter is getting married in November.  I only have about 3 rooms of furniture and a lot of it is already boxed and in a storage room.  I asked my daughter if "Bruce," her fiance, and his buddies could help move me, as I am single, with no father, brothers or friends who are able-bodied any longer (I'm 50+).  She asked him and grudgingly he said something to the effect that he could, but we would have load the truck the night before and he would have to be finished up before noon the next day, and his friend would help for $200(!).  The last straw was he told my daughter to tell me not to expect to have boxes, furniture placed or set up, because he HAD to get to the "Mud Bog" by 12:00 sharp.


Is this any way to treat a future in-law?  He knows I don't have any family really.  I did get a couple of co-workers and their husband/brother to help, thank goodness, but I'm really worried about the future with this boy--respect for me, priorities, selfishness--thanks in advance.


Lack of due care goes either way
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What to do about lack of pets --

Got a problem...


I had a Pomeranian for 5 years.  Had a cat for 4 months. 


Last month I found out I was going to have to move (could not afford the old house any longer) and I found an apartment that would allow me to have my dog.  Then, lo and behold, 2 weeks ago (4 days before I moved), someone stole my dog out of my backyard (no, did not get loose - someone took him).  I canvassed the neighborhood, had the police visit several homes that were possible snatchers, but ended up having to move without finding him.


Well, the landlord would still not allow me to keep the cat even with paying a nice fat animal deposit so today I had to turn him over to the humane society.  My daughter had planned on taking him, but he was just a little too aggressive for the 1 year old granddaughter.


So, now, I am sitting here missing my babies and thinking I am going to have to get another dog.  Obviously I do not have a lot of money to spend on another dog, but I need and want the companionship and the fun that comes along with a dog.  So, some suggestions on what you think would be the best for me to get.


I really love the dogs with all the hair (Shih Tzu, Pomeranian, Pekingese, etc), but I also think how nice it would be not to have all the hair all over me and the house.  I also think that a "mutt" might make a good choice, but upon my visit to the humane society today to turn over my cat, there was nothing but big dogs and I had to move into an apartment, so I think that would be too much.


Darn it, I am just lonely and feel like I have lost 2 of my kids right now!


 


plain and simple, lack of God.
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excuse my lack of knowledge, but
I thought medicinal marijuana was legalized in CA some time ago. What a horrible situation, this calls for an uprising, let the power of the people be heard. That is exactly why this stuff is going on - we let it.
Even if I was to try to overcome my lack of desire for him (sm)
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lack of etiquette just means one is a goon....
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I read that a lack of vitamin D and boron can

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There was a post on here about helping psoriasis so I thought I would throw that in!  Hope it helps.


Well, if the shoe fits....her mothering *skills* or lack of
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As you said in post "it just boils down to lack of disipline
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Posts speak volumes in lack of trust
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disgusting shows are proof of lack of intelligence of producers.
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Our kids got their own credit/debit cards when they hit 18 and got jobs. Their success or lack of
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I did leave MQ, thanks to lack of work started PT with another company and full time yesteday.
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You don’t need less sleep
you just sleep less and I just tell the younger ones to enjoy their sleep while they can. I miss the days when I could sleep 10 hours or so.
sleep
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getting enough sleep
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I know how you feel though- I was able to lose 70 pounds but now have come to a dead standstill where I keep gaining and losing the same 5 pounds and never going below that. I still have at least another 30 pounds to lose. Its very frustrating!
Sleep MD
You can find this at walmart.  I'm going through the same thing, and I don't want to take anything strong because it just makes me fuzzy the next day.  Sleep MD works pretty well.  Give it a try. 
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I NEED my sleep!
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sleep
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These are associated with sleep,
not having attacks or strokes. Go back to your fly by night medical degree license.
Perhaps you should consider a sleep study for him...nm

I'd rather sleep on the floor
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All the below, plus maybe get a sleep study
Doctor sent me to sleep study because of my drowsiness and foot swelling and surprise, I needed CPAP. It's much easier to stay awake now. I do take the occasional power nap but it's not more than once a day anymore!
Sleep problems
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8 Hour Sleep - sorry
should say 8
PAY NOW AND SLEEP ALL NIGHT
Once back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth, I bought kitchen appliances from a big company. I had two cards for the big company, a regular charge account and a revolving credit account. I bought them on revolving credit. Someone screwed up and every time I sent a payment they sent it back and said I had no balance. I called and told them I had one. They said they would look into it. I would pay the next month. They sent it back. I drove to the big city 300 miles away (we lived in the sticks) and brought my paperwork from when I purchased them and the papers from delivery. Twelve months or so later they found out I was right and billed me. They wrote off the interest because if I had not told them they never would have found out. I still am glad that I did it. I was worried for all that time about that and after it was settled I could sleep all night!
Sleep apnea?
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Sleep apnea-
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I sleep before I work...
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Sleep apnea
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Sleep apnea
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I don't think it has anything to do with UFOs, myself! If I were you, I'd talk to my family doctor. I know it can be really frightening. Not being able to scream or move is very upsetting. Good luck to you!
Not sleep around with, my husband
This guy was from a good background, his father was mayor of Tuscaloosa, Alabama, his family -aunt physician in Birmingham, mother specialized teacher, his uncle nuclear physicist, we are not talking low class- but he chose to live the life he did- no one made him do this- he was a loner who wanted to travel and he did. We were married for 4 years and he had some mental issues but this like any other kind of illness is not what he brought on himself. And blame myself, no I don’t- likeable guy and my family liked him also.
Anyone ever get those spells when you just cannot get to sleep. I
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Think this is sleep paralysis
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I'm an OWL - I always sleep with one eye open
ROFL!
May be you should be evaluated for sleep apnea.
or information on proper sleep hygiene.  It is not normal to be that sleepy half of the way through the day if you are sleeping well at night.  Sleep apnea is a very serious condition that can cause other health problems.  Good luck. 
I can't sleep either. Take Tylenol PM nightly. SM
Exercise does help. When I exercised 45 minutes a day, slept like a baby, but I have felt too much stress to exercise! LOL!
Thanks, I am sleep deprived enough without having a baby to add to it. nm
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Sleep is over-rated. LOL. I am lucky if
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