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re the relationship with your daughter...

Posted By: vn on 2009-06-28
In Reply to: Sorryto put this on the board, but I had to - Marmann

My sister-in-law, a wonderful woman, has a 30-something daughter, and she is struggling with their relationship.  She has recently decided to let things go for a while - for her own sanity.  She tells me that there have been problems with their relationship since her daughter was just a child.  It pains her to think that she may never have a good relationship with her.  My sister-in-law has 2 other children that she has a wonderful relationship with.  I think, sadly enough, that sometimes it just works out that way.  We have discussed the possibility of her daughter having psychiatric/emotional issues that could be hindering the relationship process - I don't know whether or not that could be an issue with your daughter.  The bottom line is, in my opinion, you can only do what you can do.  I don't think a parent should EVER give up on their children, but there may come a time when you have to realize that it is what it is, and you just have to accept that and worry about taking care of yourself.  Good luck to you.


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SIL's feelings for the daughter, just like MIL's feelings for him have nothing to do with her feelings for her daughter.
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Is this how you want your life to be because he will not change even if he decides he is "ready" to marry you. Everything he does now he will continue to do. You definitely deserve better. Good luck.
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a believer in God, personal relationship with God

My spirituality comes from many places...


Mother Teresa said:


People are often unreasonable and self-centered.  FORGIVE THEM ANYWAY.


If you are kind, people may accuse you of ulterior motives.  BE KIND ANYWAY.


If you are honest, people may cheat you.  BE HONEST ANYWAY.


If you find happiness, people may be jealous.  BE HAPPY ANYWAY.


The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow.  DO GOOD ANYWAY.


Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough.  GIVE YOUR BEST ANYWAY.


For you see, in the end, it is between you and God.  IT NEVER WAS BETWEEN YOU AND THEM ANYWAY.


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And that, my fellow MTs/MEs, is something we all should contemplate!


Have a GREAT week!!!


 


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I'm so glad you have that type of relationship! That's how it should be. (sm)
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Death of someone you have a close relationship
even if they are not related by blood.

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My father died that Thanksgiving night. It took me 10 years to forgive myself for not being there that day. I have empathy for anyone who suffers a loss around a holiday, but hey, that's just me.
I'm glad they have a good relationship, too, but it's NOT
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I feel so sorry for you. Please rethink your relationship with this man.
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Are you considering a long-term relationship
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I mean:..'not a very close relationship....nm
nm
once the trust is gone, so is the love, and the relationship..sm
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y huby and have pretty much the same kind of relationship as you mg
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I have a love/hate relationship with the thing.

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HOWEVER, these coverall things are designed for dudes with no curves, so the crotch winds up going down to your knees and you wind up walking like a penguin.  I have wiped out in it and I feel like the blueberry girl from Willy Wonka where they have to roll her away.


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Can you close the door on your relationship and not look back? sm
Of course, you will need to be in touch for the sake of the children, but you as a person need to be able to look back and have no *what ifs* to ponder about.  You need to know in your head you have turned over every stone and mustered every bit of strength in your possession and tried everything you possibly could before you end this.  Otherwise, it will forever sit like a huge weight on your back and make it hard on in life.  You also need to be able to speak about your husband in an objective manner for the sake of the children.  I agree with the other poster who suggested counseling for the children.  Please consider that no matter what else you decide for yourself.  Oh, how I do wish my parents had done the same for me as a child.  Their relationship has left me with wounds so easily reinjured and made some things in life very tough for me.  Best wishes to you.
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A younger (like 20 years younger) has fallen for me.  He knows what he wants in life; tired of the young girls who play the mind games, etc.  What are our chances of having a good relationship together.  I am definitely attracted to younger men always.


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long distance relationship - dead end?

I've been in a long distance relationship for over a year now. About 1000 miles apart....we see each other once a month and it's great for the most part. We miss each other a lot, talk everyday, and almost never fight. We get along great and truly prioritize and look forward to our meetings.


Our only problem is....the long distance thing has no end in site. Neither of us are planning (or willing) to relocate to the other's location just yet. He feels that I should 'come home' back to where our friends and family are, where we both grew up.....I feel he should get out and experience new things while we are young.


I still want to see new places, maybe move again, experience something new again, and am simply not ready (if ever) to move back. So what should I do? Bite the bullet and move back? Does this mean we have reached an impasse that will not work? Sometimes I worry that we are on a dead end road, but I could not imagine splitting because we have such a great relationship.


ANY relationship based on lies is doomed to failure

Your relationship is truly blessed and an inspiration to others. Congrats and Love long! :) nm
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Normal nerves, BUT you and your relationship w/hubs will change & evolve, hopefully
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I agree - a mother is a mother and a daughter is a daughter for life sm
despite the problems they had, which i truly believe stem for anna's drug problems. obviously her mom wasn't too bad or she would not have raised daniel for a while. i think the mother wants her buried in Texas so the grave will be close enough that she can go visit it without having to come up with expenses of going to the bahamas to get there. although i contradict that too in poor anna needs to be buried with her son.
He sounds wonderful...sounds like you two have a relationship (sm)
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and everything did turn out okay. She was very concerned and upset of course but her doc was very positive with her, explaining that there are a lot of false-positives for some reason or another. Good luck to you and try not to worry. I know that is easier said than done though!
Yes, with my first daughter. sm
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I just went through this w/my daughter...
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Get the same from my daughter-in-law
all the time, just delete them, just pro-war for nothing and not me.
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My daughter and I were outside playing catch last night when this man stopped over.  She asked him to join us.  He played with us for a couple of hours.  She was patient, kind, compassionate and understanding.


I truly have an angel for a daughter.


P.S.  On a side note, I did tell her I didn't want her to be with him when I wasn't around, etc....for safety reasons.


If that were my daughter.......
I would have marched up in that house and knocked him for a loop!!! I have three daughters and although they are still young I can't imagine anyone ever mistreating them!! As a mother, I can only imagine the heartache you feel for your child!! Thank God she is able to get out now b/c he sounds like a potentially violent person. If I were her, I would never look back and I would make his parents aware of his abusive and neglectful treatment even if they don't want to hear it!!!
My daughter has 1 and I
know she does not have this behavior out of hers- she has had hers for say about 2-3 years and he does little crazy things like snap at the air (nothing there), very loving pet.
daughter
My daughter works at a daycare and they are having an outbreak of hand, foot and mouth disease. Pretty contagious from what I gather. I'm not sure what kind of treatment, if any, is necessary. Unless she seems really ill, I think you can probably wait until tomorrow and call your pediatrician.
The daughter is 7. nm
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daughter having sex

I understand where you are coming from to some degree.  Kids nowadays are more worred about and active in sex than we were; however as a parent of a teenager and understanding that this can be an emotional time for you, I have to ask.  Are you really this freaked out about her sex life because she is having sex, or because of who it is with? Yes, you may not like this guy but how long do you want her to stay with him?  This hissy fit of yours will only cement her with him.  Keeping quiet about him and making sure that your daughter realizes that BCPs are not enough protection for what is out there would be a really good place to start.  I have discovered with my own kids that sometimes just letting them see people as they really are ends relationships that I disapprove a lot faster than nagging.   None of us wants to realize that our children are growing up and making their own choices but they do and are.  We have to hold on to the hope and knowledge that we raised them correctly.  I think we all can say that we did things that we regret and that they were/are only made worse by over-reacting parents.  BTW, that age old saying about if they want to have sex they will, really does apply and do you really want to lose your daughter over some guy?


I do have to agree also with the comment about you and your hubby raising a child...WHAT are you thinking?  If you don't want her to "give up her life" because of a baby and she is on the pill, then I suggest you make sure that she is well aware of the other options.  You will not be teaching her anything by allowing her have a baby and then raising it yourself. I know that I sat my child down and explained things in that we have "been there/done that."as well as the fact that we will not be paying child support for a child (I have two boys). 


Yes, realizing that your "baby" is growing up is hard, but come on get a grip.  She is 17 not 12 and you had to know this was coming especially if you have an older child.  She is having sex, not as protected as you would want, not with someone you think is good enough, BUT she is not dead/ dying nor has she run away, right?  There are way worse things out there to worry about then the fact that your daughter made a bad chose in who she wanted to have sex with.  Help her with the proper protection, make sure the lines of communication are open and pray for her safety and your sanity!


Again, what really (other than your daughter)
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My daughter has had 2 out of the 3
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We noticed a huge difference once going on the medication, but the school also made some accommodations in the classroom. She gets some extra time to take a test if she needs it, she can take her test away from the rest of the class if she needs to, her teachers have been wonderful about giving her extra one-on-one support and giving us materials to study at home.

I certainly do not endorse medicating every child who is just very active and talkative, and this was a huge struggle for my husband and I to commit to putting our daughter on medications. We said we would try it for a few months and if it worked, great. if it didn't, then we would take her off the medication. It was literally like night and day. She can sit still longer, she is able to finish a problem without getting distracted, she can think clearer, etc.

She calls them her magic pills. She tells us they have helped her to think better and it is easier to listen.

You didn't say how old your son was. Is he in elementary school?