perspective: 10 below in Michigan -- hate it!!
Posted By: XanaX on 2009-01-15
In Reply to: I'm further south than you - sbMT
 there's no preparing for this. for us, 39 degrees is a heat wave.
just get all the supplies you could need and stay in. the dog and three cats have cabin fever. i have to go out and shovel -- just shoot me!!! kid has a temp of 103. this is so harsh. beyond words... stay warm.
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I have maybe a different perspective
I was once worried about seeing 51, but I kicked that number to the curb several years ago. I am not at all worried about getting older.
What I do maybe sometimes think about is perhaps not being able to make my needs known. My sweet mother was in a nursing home for a bit recovering from some particularly nasty pneumonia, and several of the ladies and gentlemen there had lost their ability to speak, or to make their wishes known.
That does cause me concern.
Slightly different perspective.
So maybe I shouldn't post about this since I have not exactly been in your shoes but I think possibly I can lend a help perspective. I lost my father to cancer when I was 19. My FIL is an alcoholic. No I didn't grow up in a divorced family or without a father through my childhood and no I haven't experienced my father being an alcoholic.
What I feel I can tell you is there is such a thing as being too late to say the things you wanted to say, good or bad. If it does come to that, you will never let it go. He is still your father regardless of the choices he has made in his life. You only have 1 father. After seeing my FIL, I believe alcoholism is an illness. Sure people can fight it and get help if they wan, but it takes a very, very strong person to overcome it and it is a constant battle.
From the sounds of your post it seems as though you have some things you need to get off of your chest. Whether that means sitting down and talking to him or putting the past in the past and moving on with any kind of relationship - I think only you can figure that out. Even a relationship that is only on holidays and important events is still a relationship.
Who knows, maybe talking to your mom would help her as much as it might help you. It certainly can't be a short conversation, it needs to be thorough to get through the surface feelings and to the nitty gritty. Maybe, just maybe, your mom could shed some light for you on why she has been able to forget the past to a certain extent and move on. If nothing else, this might make you and your mom even closer and it sounds like no one else (professional or otherwise) would understand better than her.
With my FIL, we do not stay when he is drunk or starts drinking. The entire family knows we pack up and leave, regardless of the situation. It hurts his feelings sometimes I can tell, but he knows the circumstances and we have small children that we will not subject to that. It was difficult at first but over the years it is just "the way it is" and no one says a word anymore and respects where we are coming from.
Thank you Truffle and Outside Perspective (sm)
I think you are both right. He does seem happy when he is getting his way. He only gets upset when he is being told no. He has actually been even more active and social since we moved, so in general I think things are better for him. He has told me that under no circumstances does he wish that his dad and I were back together. Thanks for your input and views, I appreciate it. I guess I should have not even responded to the person below.
I don't have a pop-up, but maybe I can put your great deal into perspective.
Waaay back in 1968, my parents bought a used Coleman pop-up for $800. Can you imagine what $800 was worth back then? And it was a very basic trailer. You cranked it up, pulled out the bunks, and that was it. It was pretty snazzy, though, because our particular model had a hard top and solid screen door. Back in those days, pop-ups were little more than tents with wheels. Of course, the table folded down to another bunk. My dad, who was a carpenter, built three nifty cabinets that held all the cooking gear and clothes and stacked on top of each other. There was electric hookup, but no potty and no stove.
I LOVED the whole camping thing growing up. It was great. By then, I was the last of the children at home, my parents were older, had no money, but still wanted to go and see things. I went to a lot of cool places and really enjoyed the outdoors in that camper.
To this day I enjoy camping. I went more hard-core after my trailer days with my parents. Today, I enjoy backpacking, and sometimes I do that without even a tent!
Enjoy your camper. I think you got a great deal. You've bought more than a pop-up trailer. You've bought yourself a lot of cool trips.
Oh! Do you want to know what happened to our little $800 Coleman Trailer, used, bought in 1968? Well, it was still in great shape when my dad died in 1983. My mom sold it then for $1000. They seem to hold their value!
Happy camping!
I think your perspective on things is shared
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Yes, the news IS unreal. They throw us headlines night after night but never tell us later how it all turned out. So it seems less and less real, the less truth we get, and the more Britney, etc. we are forced to hear about. You're right - it's hard to just go about life as if everything were normal, when lately the world seems like it's anything but. Sometimes just watching the news every day can be too much. After 9/11 I got 'addicted' to the news, couldn't turn it off, but after a while I just couldn't stand watching those buildings fall over and over, night after night, and I was getting depressed. So I decided to temporarily quit the TV news 'cold turkey' for 2 weeks. Sometimes that can be amazingly refreshing!
Well, up here in Michigan
It is sooo cold, better today though. And luckily very sunny! IT's a real winter here after several years of "fake" winters!
I'm from Michigan and s/m
I have 6 in my home, 2 teens, 2 younger (7&8), 2 adults. I spend minimum of $150 a week on food, probably closer to $200. I do plan my meals out for the week prior to going. I really need to get back to my couponing days! I will do it religiously for months and then fade out when I don't have time to do it. When I do couponing, I spend about the same, but get a lot more food for my buck.
This also includes cat food, cat liter and dog food (little dog), cleaning supplies.
1.59 here in SE Michigan nm
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In Michigan we have . . .
Saunder's hot fudge ice cream sundaes (and other yummy stuff), Vernor's ginger ale, Faygo soda (mostly fruit flavors), Stroh's beer and ice cream, Better Made potatoe chips, and Velvet peanut butter.
I don't know about PA, but in Michigan.....
First off....document, document, document. Then call your local housing inspector. Tell him your sad tale of woe. They will come out and look and see if you have a valid complaint. A place I once lived in had BIG, BLACK BUG!!! Really big ones...The housing people made the landlord spray and eliminate the problem. THey were water bugs of some sort.
If that does not work, see if you have something like a Landlord/Tenent Association. They advocate for the renter against people such as your slumlord.
Depending on your income, try your local Legal Aid society. They are lawyers who help based on your income. Sliding scale at its best.
What I did was send MY slumlord (a management company) a certified, return receipt requested letter informing him that until he brought my apartment up to city housing standards, I was not going to pay my rent. But I made sure that I opened a savings account to keep the rent money in so he didn't think I was doing this because I did not want to pay my rent. Things eventually got fixed, but I had to go to the landlord directly to get my deposit back.
How PA works, I don't know, but I am sure you must have something similar.
Good luck.
Only 10 here in west Michigan.
Windchill is -15 though. And snowing to beat the band to boot.
Been getting them in Michigan, where do you live?
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I live in Michigan....and yes, we are in a recession. sm
Regardless of what the drive-by media says, we are in a full-fledged recession. Our governor even signed legislation giving big breaks to movie companies who come to Michigan to film their movies. Well that might be alright for the east side of the state, but that doesn't help us on the west side of the state. Electrolux and Bissell to name a few were only the tip of the iceberg. Our schools are going south in a handbasket also. Things just don't look good for Michigan. Especially now that gas is over $4 a gallon. I am predicting $5 by the end of the month, first part of July and any tourism dollars that would be spent here by out of state people or traveling locals, will now be kept at home. Michigan needs help, but then don't we all.
Michigan passed it and I support it.
I think anyone who is seriously ill should have whatever is available to help ease their pain. I know it helps with nausea of chemotherapy too. I think it should be decriminalized. People are killed every day by drunk driving or those who go into violent rages or blackouts. Most pot smokers will only get enraged if you try to take away their Dorito's!
20 here on the west side of Michigan. nm
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We live in Michigan and we keep our heat set at 68. sm
I live in Michigan and it gets COLD!!!. Not as cold as Wyoming, but I swear, sometimes....lol.
The only time the heat gets turned up any higher than 70 is on bath night. Then we also have a little propane heater we got from our local surplus store that helps in the bathroom.
In my office upstairs, I have an old heat lamp from our turtle tank that has a clamp type base and I have that clamped to the shelf over my keyboard. I have it aimed so it hits my hands and helps keep them warm. I figure if it works for our turtle, it will work for me. LOL.
We dress in layers too, even the 12 yo son. DH has some problems as he is diabetic, but Eddie Bauer Ragg wool socks are worth every penny you pay for them.
We do the plastic on the windows and we also spent some big bucks on plexi-glass and got two 45 x 64 pieces for our DR and KIT. We hold them in with double faced tape and then seal them with the same kind of tape they use on ductwork for trailers and RV's.
I agree with other posters too, get your thyroid checked. My doc told me that was one of the reasons for people being cold all the time.
Good luck.
XanaX, I'm with you. West Michigan here and -5 at 3:15 pm. nm
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Michigan, Saw them in Detroit at Olympia
It WAS NOT a reunion tour . . . I'm really old. LOL
originally Michigan now living in the sm
south. you brought up the other things I was thinking when I posted about Vernors. Saunders hot fudge, Faygo, Stroh's ice cream (use to have a Stroh's ice cream shop by the house back in the 70s when in high school) and those wonderful Better Made potato chips!!!!!!!! Hubby was just in Michigan two weeks ago and brought back a bag. Nothing like em!!!!!!
What part of MI are you from? I am from the Pontiac Waterford area, born and raised!
Southwest Michigan, not much shake, but noticeable.
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Southeast Michigan (Ann Arbor Area)
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In Michigan they will issue an arrest warrant
If you don't show up for jury duty, they will issue a warrant. Wondering where the case was that a rapist was released due to juror not showing up? Something doesn't sound quite right there.
I'm with you. I live in west Michigan. I am more than ready. nm
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Wow!! What a great attitude! I love that - great perspective!
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I live in Michigan and we just had 3 days of solid rain and $4.19/gal for gas. sm
We got the leftovers from Ike. Our gas is still $4.19 a gallon. We did not have the power outages that KY, IL, etc had, but we did have 3-4 tornadoes touch down near the MI/IN border. We have a lot of dams that are in danger of being breached and our whole side of the state is in a flash flood watch until Thursday. They figure most rivers will crest near the border by Thursday.
I live in Michigan...You can have ALL our snow. Merry Christmas. nm
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Today in Michigan it's a balmy 6 degrees with -18 wind chill
With those kind of temperatures, today thermostat is on 70 and that's comfortable. But I have on sweat pants, a sweatshirt, and warm wooly socks. Usually it's at 68 and 62 at night.
19 degrees in west Michigan right now. -8 wind chill. BRRRR..nm
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The department you deal with in Michigan for things like this is called "Friend of the Court".
You need to get in touch with your version of this in your state and tell them what is going on and file a form for re-do the visitation agreement. You may even have to see your original divorce attorney. We went through this with my husband's ex-wife and he filed papers to amend the visitation and what they call an "in pro per" form. Which basically is a DIY form. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but you need to get started now to get your ducks in a row.
Have you thought about talking to somebody at the local VA office in your state or city? Those guys are a wealth of information.
Good luck to you.
Poor MT..I live in Michigan, pick me up will you? I'll even bring my own plate and fork. LOL. nm
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and don't you just hate
all those passwords you have to memorize. Just when I get them down I have to change them again!!!! I just ain't equipped to live in a modern world!
I hate to say this, but
"home" is wherever I'm at with my family! If my husband and children are with me, I'm "home". I'm happy and full of peace and joy when they are with me and okay!
I hate when that happens!
I wonder why anybody even specializes in dermatology; those I have seen have not seemed very talented in the area of diagnosing either!
Hope it clears up soon.
OMG I hate those-
then when it finally comes out it's way too much all at once! Very irritating.
THAT'S what I hate . . .
being treated like some low-life scum and not being trusted becuase I have had a run of misfortune. It's very degrading.
I hate that too!
And in our Walmart, they say the announcements in English and then again in Spanish sometimes. Not all the time, but it drives me up the wall! It just encourages them not to bother learning the language.
I hate having to call Verizon when we have trouble with our DSL, because I always get an ESL. Some are better than others, but I can't stand that. 
I hate when that happens.
Okay, that never happens to me.
Wow - I hate this for you all so much!! (sm)
I hope everything gets under control there soon and that you don't have to evacuate. I just want to say I'm so sorry and that many people everywhere really are thinking of you and praying for you. I'm sorry you didn't hear back from your supervisors - I hope there is some logical explanation and that it is not just that they don't care. Either way - many other people do. I hope it all gets better for you soon!!
Hate it too
That is why I love Cape Cod. We get to enjoy all four seasons, but the warm ocean air usually keeps the snow away.
I truly hate that. sm
I was just discussing with my husband the other day how the Kennedy family is just cursed. They have had so many tragedies...I honestly think there has to be a curse there. So much has happened.
I wonder if he had been experiencing any other symptoms or if this just came out of nowhere. My aunt died from lung cancer that had spread to her brain, and she had many, many symptoms. Cancer by its very nature, though, is sneaky. A hard disease to fight.
HC
I hate ...
When I take out the recyclables, walk back in, and realize that I have to open another can, to feed the cat
When I leave the house, wearing my "around the house" glasses, even though my "going out" glasses are right next to my keys.
I hate it when ....
I have to beg my son and DIL to have time w/ my grandson.
I hate it when
I get a craving for chocolate and there isn't one morsel to be found in my cupboards! :(
I hate it when
people chew their gum like a cow chewing cud or suck on their teeth after they eat. Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I hate it when.......
People write checks period. But even more so when they are in the express lane and write a check.
Second, I hate it when people stop in the middle of the aisle to have a lengthy conversation and block the whole aisle!
I hate...
1. People that say "have a good one".
2. Doo rags.
3. Pants that hang below the butt.
4. Dogs with clothes on.
5. My neighbor that wears nothing but shoes outside in his yard. (he's old and it's not pretty)
I hate what they did
I was so sad that he died and I don't like the storyline at all.
I hate to tell you
but if you are prowling around on this board you are not Ms. High Society.
Learn to keep it real dear, no one likes a high maintenance heifer.
hate to tell you
you don't know what you are talking about
Hate to be a pessimist ...
but smokeless tobacco "just" causes cancer of the head and neck, not change in mental status like you are describing. I would suspect he has put something else in his "tin" or whatever his snuff comes in. Going away to college is when kids get to try all the stuff the couldn't get away with at home, so I'm sorry, but I think your son is about to flush college money away on a semester-long party. That's what I observed when I was in school.
Don't you just hate it when you are transcribing sm
concentrating real hard, and don't even realize they are there? To top it off, they speak your name and you jump out of your skin? I love my family to death but I swear I will have a heart attack some day. I have my desk situated to where all I have to do is look to my right side and can see whoever is at the door but I sometimes am concentrating so hard that I don't realize anyone is here. My youngest son (21) just did that to me-stood at the door and said "I found it". He had been looking for his college class schedule. I think I am stuck to the ceiling. Somebody peel me off.......and it is only Monday....... 
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