not paying insurance for teens-I feel bad for you.SM..
Posted By: geesh-kid culture ya know and PARENTAL HELP!.. on 2006-11-03
In Reply to: reply - MQSARMT
Kids don't make enough today to do it all - including teen car insurance - and some parents LIKE TO HELP...again, to each his/her own. My children have been working full time for 10 years and I'm still wanting to help them with that car insurance because it's exhorbitant for young people even in their 20s....until 25 actually where I live -
oh well, one thing is we can all AGREE TO DISAGREE - LOL
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car insurance quadruples for teens in florida
it's not *spoiling kids* what with Florida rates, that's a given.......quadruples for kids 25 and under.......check it out yourself....it's not spoiling. I also moved out at 18 and did it all myself but I didn't drive until I was 26 or 28 so car insurance was never an issue back in the days for me. Today, it's a different world and car insurance definitely depends on WHERE YOU LIVE.
If you live in very small-town America I suppose what you said is very correct......
insurance not paying for meds
Insurance said I had to be on Medicare before they would pay for Celebrex even with rheumatologist asking for exemption.
My son's insurance stopped paying for Zyrtec
changed recently. I guess it's nice for people that don't have insurance but when a med goes OTC you can't exactly use it as a medical expense on your taxes anymore
Teens!! -- Difficult times for teens and parents. (sm)
You must feel as though you are at your wits' end -- just don't let your son know that. I encourage you to continue to practice assertiveness/"tough love." Do not argue with him; give him a couple of choices when situations arise. Don't allow him to be disrespectful.
It sounds as though your son needs attention. His negative drug test was a "positive"; praise him!!!
.Smile every time he walks into the room.
.Every day find something positive and praise him often for even the smallest thing.
.Everyone has talent(s); what's you son's interests. Show him you are interested.
.Consider Big Brother/Big Sister (maybe a retired teacher will be available)/the "Y."
.Chores/responsibilities -- mowing lawns (earning spending money), assisting at a local nursery, household chores. Keep him busy!!!
.Have him plan/prepare a meal and invite a friend for dinner/movie.
.Watch a movie together.
.Play a little basketball together (my favorite!).
.Attend church together!!
May God bless your home!!
Do you mean that your teens don't
know what marijuana is? Or did I misunderstand?
I'm sure this teen I'm wondering about knows what it is. She also has posted " I'm **** (name deleted) and addiction is my middle name."
Just wondering if I'm reading too much into it. Obviously it's not proof. I know kids try to be cool and it doesn't necessarily mean anything. I was truly just wondering what you all would think if you read that.
My teens
They don't get squat from me. If they want a car, they can go earn the money for it. They can also earn the money for the insurance and cell phone as well.
As of yet they do without. I allow them to take the car on Wednesday evenings to church for youth group because I cannot take them, and to their Orthodontist appointment every 6 weeks because I cannot take them.
Otherwise, if I am not driving, my vehicle stays in the parking lot. My hubby drives his to work every day.
I believe just giving them these things makes them feel it is a right or entitlement. I had to earn my own because parents didn't want to give. I can't afford to give, but I think I would still make them earn it because they tend to care for the things they have to earn better than those that are just given. Know what I mean?
Universal is more for teens really.....
MGM is great for 3 and 7 year olds, as is the Magic Kingdom. Epcot is more for teens and adults. Haven't been to Animal Kingdom but it's for 3 and 7 year olds as well as adults and teens.
Someone I know just went back up to Universal and said much is closed inside - it's not doing as well as it did back in the early 90s. I loved Universal when I went, that was in 1997, and I'm adult (many times over *LOL*).
They'll have fun NO MATTER WHAT - this I can promise you!!!
Buena Vista is a very nice area to stay in and very close to all parks. The Disney parks have escalated in price and went up TWICE this past year....may be better to buy 3 (if they still offer 3), 4 or 5-day passes - unlimited visits and cheaper in the long run.
HAVE FUN!!! 
Yup, have 2 teens and it is kind....
of interesting as one does not have "all the time in the world for that anymore." We have got to get when we can. But also he works nights and obviously sleeps some during the day. Maybe that is what has kept the fire going all these years. LOL
Teens and preteens?
I was standing in the grocery line of a major store tonight and the F word not coming from one of them, but an older woman on a cell phone right behind me. Her complaint was that there were not enough lines opened up and that is when the word came in. I only had perhaps 5 items and my going thru took not but a few seconds. It is everywhere.
2 teens, but only 1 ticket (so far!)
My oldest DS got one his first year of college where was going to school. It was an expensive lesson for him, but one he learned well.
Teens recycling biz
Here's the thing. I have two teens and we live in a fairly rural area where job opportunities are limited enough as an adult, forget about being a teen looking for a job.
The kids came to me last night and have come up with a business idea for the two of them. Recycling.
Neither are quite old enough to drive yet. The eldest will be driving in about 8 months so any driving will have to be done by dear ol' mom of course.
My question is for anyone who regularly recycles. Is collecting for money even worth it? We already recycle but it is packaged separately and picked up with our other trash and WE pay them to pick it up.
Anyone?
Thanks
If my two teens ever talked to me like that.......sm
I would probably punch them in the mouth and knock their teeth out! But, then again, I do not talk to them that way either.
My son is 6Ɖ", 280 lbs, college football player, and I would have no problem knocking him out if he talked like that to me......ever!!!
Teens do try to get away with things, and sometimes forget who they are actually speaking to their parents and not their friends on the "street" - no excuse ever. With that type of behavior, they might find their bags out on the curb.
Would never tolerate it!!!
Your're right about teens! - sm
I try to tell him that he never would have married me if he's known me at 16 or 17. Talk about bratty! He is open to learning about communicating. He calls himself a "neanderthal" and readily admits he's too heavy-handed (figuratively) sometimes and that he needs the female perspective from me.
Thing is, he's got two grown daughters. But they didn't grow up with him and so this is completely new territory for both of us. We haven't seen his first kids more than a handful of times in the last several years, and I know he's terrified that our two (we also have a 19 yo son) will turn their backs on him too. So it's either over-indulge or get very strict, and very little in between. This parenting stuff really can be perplexing, can't it?
Do teens still get cars of their own
Do people still buy cars for their teens or do they share cars? Do you pay for insurance or do they have to get a job and pay for it? My parents gave me nada, but that seems extreme, so I would like to know what other people consider normal.
If I hear teens and 20-somethings...
using profanity it really peeves me. Mind you, I can talk like a sailor too, however, I find the "F" word is peppered in speech lately, even with the girls. How unattractive and anything but adult-like behavior.
Pre-teens and makeup question. sm
My DD just turned 13 and I have agreed to allow her to wear basic makeup now. However, she is not applying it appropriately to where I think it looks decent. I am not a big makeup person and all the teens are into this glitter stuff at that. I would like to take her somewhere to really teach her how to apply makeup, select her colors, etc. Does anyone know of a place that does this type of thing and any good recommendations that would help?
I have two teens of driving age who both have their own cars. sm
My older teen is 19. She pays for her own insurance, but is on my policy. I will pay for my 17 year old until he is 19. I got them both used cars, and now if they want to sell them and get another one, that's up to them.
Get Over It Already is an immature phrase, as are young teens who act this way
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actually they DO cast out their male children as teens
often times if they do not "comply" with the religious teachings. There is an entire group of "Lost boys" all over Utah and the surrounding areas where FDLS and other religious off-shoots have cast out their teen boys. Really really sad. I lived in Utah and have known quite a few current and former FDLS members and also know a couple of men who as teens were "cast out" by their families. I think also the older men don't particularly care for the younger teen boys being "competetion" for them as far as the young girls go...it's disgusting religous fanatacism at its worst.
Look at this headline "Michigan Teens Murder, Dismember Sex Offender (sm)
This man was ambushed, murdered, beheaded and burned. The headline says these teens murdered a sex offender. Way down in the article it says that this man 9 years ago at age 17 had sex with a 14 year old. That was his offense. It does not say he raped her. While I agree he should not have had sex with a 14 year old, I think it is very unfair that after he suffered such a horrible death the headline reads that a sex offender was murdered. The article also says that his being a "sex offender" had nothing to do with why the boys murdered him, they just did it to do it. How sad that after his death, that is what they post about him!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071113/ap_on_re_us/burned_torso
She's paying for it
You can be sure she is paying for the extra attention. Also, the hospital likely insisted that all that security be provided, not because they are necessarly worried about Britney but about people trying to get near her. The last thing they want is for her to get harmed while she's in their institution.
Usually if there is a VIP patient, they don't keep the chart all in one place - they parse it out in 3 or more different locations under lock and key.
Britney has always gotten that kind of treatment - when she was in Mousekeeters, everyone had to leave the gym where she worked out when she came for her exercise. Britney is a little snot, always has been even as a young teenager - turns on the sweetness for the cameras. Millions of people have bought her act.
However, I do feel for her in her present situation and hope she can turn her life around now.
Me again, tell you what I did about paying a bill for a dog
like I said above, huge animal lover. I have 3 furkids but a friend of mine whose son is a druggie, was not seeing about his dog. The dog needed an operation for a growth on his foot. I paid over $1000.00 for that and now I buy my newly adopted doggie its medicine each month. I never give my friend money because want the money to go for the doggie, not drugs for her kid but you can believe I am seeing the doggie is comfy!
Okay, I don't mind paying
to make sure everything is in order! Thanks for all the advice!
...paying for it himself out of his PT job earnings. nm
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paying for college
I have two sons in college right now ...one out-of-state, one in a private university. They both end up getting paid to go to school because they have so many scholorships. Did the high school counselor help me find any....NO. We are in a small town and I got no help from the school or town. Neither one of my sons played any sports...but I will tell you what I found out...what is more important is that your child is involved in school and the community. They don't care if they have ever worked a day in their life...they want to know what they have done in school grade wise, and community wise. Even just ringing the bells for the Salvation Army at Chrismtas time will earn you a scholorship. I filled out over 56 scholorships for both my sons to go to school for free...you just have to learn as you go how to word answers on the scholorships. We are not poor but we are not rich...but we made to much money to get any FAFSA help.
paying off bills
In our case, we refinanced through someone in our church who had a refinance company. It included all our credit cards and no, we did not have to cut them up. We still have them and DO NOT EVER USE THEM. It also included paying off our cars. The reason we had so much debt is because I wasn't able to get enough work at that time, now it is great and I can only say we pray and God has blessed us above measure, more than we deserve.
paying off bills
BTW we also pay an extra $100 each month on our mortgage. Years ago someone told us to do that and were never able to until now. Yes, I work hard, but we are doing great and even eat out once or twice a wk and sometimes more. This friend in our church also agreed paying the extra $100 a month. I have heard other fincance people on the Christian radio station saying the same thing, so it does make sense. You pay the extra amount on the principal only.
paying bills
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Same here paying bills - NM
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I am not against paying for your child's
but I have no intention of doing that for my own children. There are so many kids out there who have everything handed to them. I believe it will teach my children the value of a dollar and the value of their education if they pay for it themselves or with scholarships and hard work. I do encourage them to keep their grades up and will encourage them to apply for scholarships, grants, etc. I think either parent should have to foot the bill for college. If they want to, great; if not, I don't believe the court system should get involved.
Wow if you & hubs are paying that much
in taxes and didn't qualify for stimulus check (because you make too much?), ya'll must be rakin' it in!! Don't think you deserve much sympathy either, right? I know you we're asking for it, but seems a little harsh to kick someone when they're down...
Paying down debt
It is getting harder to make ends meet because of all the straws in our bank account. I have 17k in CC dept alone. It is with 4 different CC companies. One CC has $200, #2 has about 4K, #3 has about 2K, #4 has 10k. The 10K one has a 15 % APR, the others I believe range from 24% to 29% APR. My biggest monthly payment is my house and I owe only $4700 on it and it has 6.3% APR. I sold some things and am getting $5K and that will be enough to pay off my house. I would love to finally, officialy own this house and get rid of that $350 monthly pmt, but I wonder if I should not pay down on the CC because of the high interest rates. Any opinions. TIA.
Paying Down Debt
I feel you, believe me. First, Bravo to you for facing this. That's the hardest part. I think if you are so close to paying off your house, you wouldn't want to take out yet another loan against it. Additionally, the interest rates aren't that great. What is the total of payments you are making on your credit cards? If you can slap that 5000.00 on your debt first on all of the higher interest ones perhaps paying some of them off. That will free up extra money to put on the rest of your credit cards. Then once the credit cards are paid off, you can then work on the mortgage (I WISH I had your mortgage..). Also we work in an industry where it is easy to pick up extra work---have you thought of that just to get extra money to pay off the debt? That's what I'm trying to do. Things are just so bad right now. Good luck, hope this helps...
Forgot to add - what about them paying
for their part of the cell phone bill as well as insurance on their vehicle?
You are not paying for a thing that does not benefit you, obviously.
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Remember you are paying him big bucks
My nephew is a mortgage broker and they make good money -- put in a lot of time but that 1 to 3% loan initiation fee can be quite steep. It is not like they are doing a favor for you so speak up. Go above his head ask to talk with a supervisor, anything. Be nice about it but remember you are paying him a lot of money and so he is working for you and so speak up. You don't have to be nasty but tell him your concerns and ask that you speak to his supervisor. Good luck.
Curious as to who is paying for the wedding?
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You are kidding about paying $2 more an hour??
I find most Americans, regardless of their race, creed, religion, etc., etc. wanting to work. I have never had to worry if I hire the Mexicans here in town to work, show them what and your job is done. I have a lady who cleans (black) and I usually have to make a list and even then she wants to sit down most of the time. Have used all but found get my work done with south of the border folks.
I'm paying for all those wives and kids...
They only claim one wife as a legal wife, so the others they marry are married in the church but not on paper, so they think they are getting by with polygamy. So what happens to all those wives with children? They go to the welfare office, since they are single moms ( no marriage certificate), they are eligible for Medicaid, my taxes to pay for their children, food stamps, on and on. That is fraud and they should be ashamed of themselves, since they know exactly what they are doing... where is their religion in all this? This is scheming.....they call it "bleeding the beast", meaning the government. Of course, they do not care that it is the taxpayer's dollar, because they consider themselves better than the "outside world", since they believe they are the chosen people anyway.
Oops, should have been paying off a debt
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Plan on paying off my cards too sm
as soon as I get my settlement. Plan to tell them that I refuse to bankroll their bonuses, parties and whatnot anymore and they can put their credit you know where. I didn't get a bailout--all I got was higher interest rates.
And who said anything about them paying for their father's expenses?
Not me, for sure because I have more sense than that. I have told my husband we have separate accounts and he is not responsible for me if I were to die first. He does not have to pay my credit card accts, etc. because those were made before we even met. Lastly, let me just say this, if the father of those children WAS competent, he could then take his own father (the g'father) to court and he most probably would get THEIR share because he is NEXT of kin, not them. I do not think you have a leg to stand on in this matter. I have enough knowledge to know who comes first, etc. My father died owning about 1,000+ for a doctor's bill. I was next of kin, did I have to pay, NO. Where you got that sentence she and her brother??? guess you just pulled out of thin air.
See my post above about paying off the credit
Sure, banks need to make a profit just like everyone else. But businesses throughout the whole country have become so money-hungry that they continue to cheat their customers more and more, in the name of making more and more money for themselves. MTSO's cheat us in order to make more profit. Insurance companies cheat us by making us pay more and more, and in turn denying more and more of our healthcare costs. Food companies cheat us by not only charing more for their products, but also by putting less and less in the box or the wrapper. (Cereal: Used to be about 3/4 full, now it's more like 1/2 full. Granola bars: Remember when 1 granola bar was an actual snack? Or even breakfast? Now the wrapper is the same size, but the bar is a mere shadow of its former self.) The banks cheat us by raising the rates or charging for services that used to be free. Mine recently starting nicking my checking account for $35 as 'overdraft protection' when my account became low. Now get this: I never bounced a check. I never wrote checks for more than was in my account. There was always at LEAST $25 in my checking account. But they would decide it was too low, nick me for the $35, and then surprize! My account is then MINUS $10! So what do they do? They charge me again!
I'm considering doing away with the bank entirely, including checking, and only using a pre-paid debit card. Now if there were just a way for our MT paychecks to electronically go into a bank-free debit card, instead of into the bank, then VOILA! Bye-bye, bankie.
quit paying and see if he says something..then you'll know..nm
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I've been paying a lump sum for my taxes
and was starting to get scared that I'm doing it wrong. Actually, my husband was doing the taxes, and this year we're separated. I've just been an IC two years and an MT for a little over three. So is it okay to send it all in April? This will be my first year to write off an office space and such. So many other things were going on before that I had no time to really think this all through. Numbers and taxes and math are not my thing! 
I agree! My BP & I have walked out of restaurants without paying (sm)
if the mgr. wouldn't ask the people with a screaming baby or out-of-control toddlers (running around & actually eating off of other people's plates! Gaaack!)to do something about it. At movie theaters, if people bring screamers in with them, we go out to the mgr. and ask for our money back. My mom raised 6 kids and went to church with all of them every Sunday. If anyone (including the infant-du-jour) made any noise, they were removed immediately. Older kids had to sit in the car (with H*-to-pay when we returned home!), and babies/toddlers sat with her outside 'til such time that they calmed down again. And weddings? Forget it! She never subjected any of her friends' weddings to small children or babies. And we were trained, at at APPROPRIATE age and ONE AT A TIME, how to behave in restaurants. We had to use our "indoor voices", keep our napkin in our lap & our elbows off the table, and eat with the correct forks, etc. And in fancy restaurants, we were trained beforehand that we were NOT allowed to even ASK for a hamburger. That alone prevents many restaurant-meltdown scenes!
Good, does that mean I can stop paying taxes? - nm
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Hey, I'll join you if you're paying ;-)
And I was just stressing over paying $500 for rental car (I'm driving), hotel, and baseball tickets for a rinky-dink 3-day trip 250 miles down the road. Still have to spring for gas money and food, but I'm feeling a little better after reading your post LOL. Of course, I'm not going to Las Vegas...
Well, have fun anyhow!! :-)
They may be citizens and are paying taxes like the rest of us.
What difference does it make?
When did parents stop paying attention?
I'm nearly done raising my kids, and they're good kids. In addition, I've been a boy scout leader for 12 years, so often I'm around a lot of really good kids who have parents who care. Tonight I was helping out a cub scout meeting with a bunch of bright-eyed, energetic cubs. Two of our older boys, 12-year-olds from the boy scout troop were also helping out. At one point, the kids all went outside with the den leader and another parent to do an activity. This was around 7:30 p.m. and it was dark outside. One of the boy scouts came back inside to get me. He wanted to let me know that they had to move the cubbies away from some "bigger" kids outside. Turns out, there were some 9th graders hanging out at the back of the school building where we meet. They were sitting near the playground, smoking and filling an empty 2-liter soda bottle with smoke, making smoke rings. They weren't particularly noisy, but their language was atrocious. Obviously, we didn't want that example near the little ones.
So I walked over and said to them in a calm voice, "Hey folks, I'm bringing some 2nd graders around here, and I'd like for you to move off the property." They just looked at me with an "I-hate-the-world" look, rolled their eyes and said, "Yeah, sure." Of course, there was no movement. I say, "I've asked you nicely once. You move now. You don't get another warning." One of our scout dads started heading over at that point. He's a big man about 300 pounds. These kids, two boys and a girl, started spewing language you wouldn't want a longshoreman to hear. I'm no prude, and I've done less than bright things as a teenager, and I've paid my dues working with some troubled kids. I wasn't shocked by the language, though, I didn't like it at all.
I did, at one point, say to them, "Look, can you do this at home?" The girl's reply was, "Yeah, my parents aren't old."
That one actually made me laugh. I said to her, "Well, if it's ok to do this at home, then that's a good place to be. You can't be here." She started screeching about how adults just don't show respect to her, and I laughed and said, "I'm sorry you feel that way, really sorry. Because that means you don't understand that you are being treated just the way you are asking me to treat you. In fact, I'm being way more patient than I need to be." I know she didn't understand. Nothing was out of bounds with these kids. The other adult with me made a remark to them about how little he thought of their parents because of their behavior. One overly-brave kid said that his parents were fantastic and let him do whatever he wanted. Yeah. That was pretty obvious. He told us we shouldn't be disrespecting his parents. I told him that I would never want to do that. Would he, therefore, please go home, tell his parents what happened and send them back down to me. I'd be there for the next 30 minutes. No one showed of, of course.
What gets me isn't so much the smoking, the lack of concern about the example they set for the little children nearby, or the language. Certainly, all of that was awful. But the big problem was the complete lack of respect they have for anyone else, especially adults. And as they behaved like obnoxious brats, they preached about how they should be treated with respect! I hear this over and over form kids. If I can get them to actually have a decent dialogue, I usually ask the kids to define respect. They generally give me a correct definition, but that's not what they are asking for. What they really mean when they say that adults don't respect them is, "You won't let me do what I want to do."
So when did parents stop teaching kids these basic rules of conduct, and when did parents forget to really teach children about respect for others and respect for themselves? I'd be absolutely sure the world was going to Hades in a handbasket if it weren't for the really wonderful kids I work with each week. "My" boy scouts are great kids!
Unfortunately, the 12-year-old boy scout who called my attention to the loitering kids saw most of the exchange above. But later he came to me and said, "You know what? Now I know why you are constantly on top of us about our language and our behavior at scouts."
"Really? Why's that?"
"Those kids don't even realize that what they were doing was so awful. They think they have a right to argue and yell and curse. They do it all the time at school, so they think it's o.k. If you were to let us do that all the time, we'd think it was o.k., too."
Now there's a kid who will go far! And it was one of my payoff moments in scouts!
Apparently paying my Iowa taxes
Man, they've gone up. Dang it all to heck.
Otherwise, I'll be using the difference by knocking out my small bills in anticipation of paying off our zillions of dollars worth of student loans in about 800 years.
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